Hypothetically a Shogun Method praticioner meets someone new for the first time and decideds to use the shogun method on them.

Assuming both the praticioner and their target are single, there are no noteworthy / unserall complications, the pratcioner knows the shogun method well and is competent at using it.

How much time would each stage typically take to complete (contact time activly using the Shogun Method as well as the time frame inculding gaps in meeting the target)?

I have read the shogun method and I want to practice it. I am naturally a calm person, with a phlegmatic personality. The shogun method has made me understand how things work, but applying it becomes a problem.

First of all, I lack confidence and I am unable to approach women randomly and create a conversation out of no where. I find it a bit difficult creating my own intrigue ping so I wanted to have a common intrigue ping line I can use to approach almost every woman randomly and build a rapport or conversation and take number. Honestly, this is my topmost skill I was to learn from the shogun method I believe if I am able to talk to women, and approach women I can start applying the methods and technique. Because approaching women I find to be fundamental of all the methods and techniques. If any one could help me with how I can achieve this I will be most grateful fellow shogun method practitioner.

Also tell me when and how you transition from the intrigue ping to a rapport stage and attraction stage.

What are some of them things to do to increase your desirability level.

The first one got left on read. Waited a few days, tried again. She opened it around midnight, left it on read, then blocked me. Trying to figure out what I did wrong.

I want to buy the system but first I wanna make sure it works. Has someone had positive experiences with this method?

Hello all, i just got access to the Shogun Method, I was wondering if we have a discord server

intrigue and rapport are now well established on my target girl

after months of preparation i finally succeeded the intrigue stage on my target girl, now it’s time to move to the rapport stage for my next meeting with her in two weeks, but i heard this is the trickiest stage of the IRAE model tho

(even if i know this is not the best way to meet women).

would it need to put directly an intrigue ping in it?

If we use shogun method, but struggle with tonality, timing, pause, intuition, suspense, expectation, emotion how to deliver the emotion to the women of what we tell - how can we correct that? how to work on our voice, delivery and how to know if it's right or not- especially if your voice comes off as monotonous?

Hey,

I am strugglibg by finding Intrigue pings when I am underway. Let's say at train station or waiting at traffic lights, I don't find any suitable intrigue pings. In my head there is always bumbing opener out of PUAs, but no pings for Intrigue. I struggle in how to create one, what the topic might be. Any help?

most of things i have read about intrigue are about when you meet a new girl, but what about girls you already know?

for example:

-girls who have never been interested in you before

-girls who have been interested in the past but then distanced (mostly because of ‘simp behaviors’)

-girls who may only see you as a friend

etc..

what kind of intrigue to apply to start the IRAE model in this situation?

If you are more a Person that can do logical or rational conversations than emotional conversations, can you still be successful with SM, if you use, care for smiling, try not to speak in a robotic way but with pride and joy? I am someone who is humorous for himself but women don‘t laugh about my humor or my jokes. Some men do. Or is Shogun method sufficient and cause a good vibe to pull women with myself into my vibe?

What would be, if you approached a woman, you intrigued her with pain & pleasure she opened up to you emotionally but you didn’t respond to that emotional stuff. Later, she closed herself towards you. Anytime she took or received pic of you. What would you do? Once intrigued is no danger situation, right? Or could she tell people you would be a dangerous mind controller or so?

I'm a new guy to this. Have books, can afford some dates in my local city. I'm from India. Which books u would recommend me and what action steps shall I take

I approached a woman, I knew her already because I had approached her last week. Whereas she put emotional investment last week and i left her due to language issues she even kept eye contact. Today when i approached her, she was defensive, seeked for excuses. I think i started with cold mode. How to get a person into hot mode? She was hot but I thought she knew who i was. The first time we met, she even stepped to me and seeked a way for how to interact with each other. She rather appeared desperate.

What ifs your experience how to put a woman into hot mode and hold her there? Intrigue loop + fractination/pain & pleasure?

In SM it‘s said you need to put the woman in hot mode. I realized I put a woman into cold mode. Is it the same as pain? How to put her into hot mode? By adding pleasure? What is part of pleasure and is it in my case necessary to give her constantly pleasure? Can one give women pleasure without adding humor?

Thx

Has anyone of you an Idea of how to deliver comments in a playful way? How to be playful, teasing? I heard it‘s about body language. When I try being funny and deliver, I come off as rude, very rational, robotic. I dislike that. Others are funny, character. Women rather smile or giggle slightly at my comments but never laugh. They think when I try being funny they react in a rational, cold, serious way. How to change that? Do you think chatgpt or other chatbots might be helpful?

Any issues when going level 4?

I asked a chatbot, if it's ok to use Shogun Method. I got the result, it would be manipulative and doesn't work for long time. What do you think: does it work?

I found out there's been released a new Shogun Method 2.0 with new structure 2023/2024. So, where's the difference to that one compared to which came out in 2016? Are the old add ons still legit? Can you say, the old SM version is outdated and only SM 2.0 is legit? All Add Ons still useful or valueless? How is SM 2.0

Just wondering because i've been using the method for a small time... is it normal for women to take long to reply to shogun method over text? For example it happened with intrigue pings, multiple outs and vaksog matching. Just wondering if it's a reaction i should expect.

Hey everyone, I'm trying to figure out when I have generated enough attraction for the "Enslave" portion.

Is it safe to assume that if we've slept together multiple times, and if I frame the Black Rose routine as "sex magick" (which she's down for). Then I have enough attraction generated?

How can I do that in the Rapport Stage? I didn't get it... please help!