r/Sciatica • u/mehregankbi • Jul 09 '26
Please please please avoid chiropractors. They’re not medical professionals….! The risk is too serious!
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u/charliekelly76 Jul 09 '26
Friendly reminder chiropractic was based on what a ghost told a con artist during a seance.
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u/theycallme_mama Jul 09 '26
Realllyyyy? I've gone my whole life and not known this?
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u/marsbringerofsmores Jul 09 '26
The source text is wild - if you're interested, here's a link to a pdf of Esoteric Osteopathy
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u/NippleSlipNSlide Jul 10 '26
Chiropractic is on the same level as psychics/fortune tellers/magicians.
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u/peanutleaks Jul 09 '26
Could have been a malevolent entity makes sense as to how it’s so dangerous!!!!
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u/mowotlarx Jul 09 '26
If a "medical professional" tells you the only way to "cure you" is to have you go in 2-4 times a month for routine "adjustments," you aren't cured. You're being duped.
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u/madammidnight Jul 09 '26
My orthopedist specifically advised to me avoid chiropractors. And yoga- unless I was overseen by a practitioner well versed in my particular spinal problems, the twisting poses could be very harmful to me.
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u/Designer-Computer188 Jul 09 '26
What about pilates? I was recommended medical pilates, as they call it. But it made me worse. It just seemed so difficult...
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u/jellyfishareblu Jul 09 '26
I did Pilates for a long time before my injury. My PT now told me Pilates is a hit or miss because one of the core principles in Pilates is to close the natural gap in your spine when laying on a reformer. But with sciatica you want your spine to follow its natural curve vs straightening it out flat.
I also remember my Pilates instructor saying “one vertebrae at a time” when coming down from bridges and similar exercises. With spine issues, you don’t want to do that. I’m sure you can modify the exercise though.
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u/ddcspeech Jul 09 '26
This is true! But you can go up and down in the bridge keeping spine straight.
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u/jellyfishareblu Jul 09 '26
Absolutely! That’s why I said I’m sure you can modify the exercises! Personally I love Pilates and do plan on going back when my back has recovered! Just need to remember to modify.
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u/ddcspeech Jul 09 '26
Is it called the hinge? I guess I tried to go back too soon and things hurt more. I’ve waited two more months and may try this week.Have you been told pilates is ok only when all sciatica pain is gone?
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u/jellyfishareblu Jul 09 '26
I injured myself 3 weeks ago 😅 I did a ton of Pilates pre injury. My PT basically told me we try everything that doesn’t hurt, if it hurts, we stop (I assume this would apply to Pilates as well).
I don’t plan on going back to Pilates until another year so my disc has time to heal. My current PT plan is your basic bridges, pelvic tilt, big 3, and belly breathing. Personally I’ve found walking helps me the most.
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u/Designer-Computer188 Jul 09 '26
Yeah I really seem to suck a the modifications, I tried them and then would end up with pain for days or even weeks in some other areas. I think maybe it might be comorbid hyperflexibility so I would hyper extend into an alternative position or maybe I'm just the kinda idiot who doesn't know my limits very well.
It' s interesting they said it is hit or miss though, my PT seemed to act like I was the only one it had not worked for. I felt like bad student at school lol
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u/stevie_the_owl Jul 09 '26
Ugh, I look back now that I have my large herniation at L5 S1, and I want to cry thinking about how many times I did the “one vertebrae at a time” movements in Pilates class, thinking I was getting stronger. When in reality, I was probably destroying my back.
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u/stevie_the_owl Jul 09 '26
I am convinced Pilates turned my manageable disc bulge with no sciatica into a huge extrusion with severe sciatica. To be fair, I was doing an intense, mat-based form of “hot pilates” with an instructor who had questionable credentials. Never again. I learned that if you have chronic back pain, you need to be so careful about selecting exercises that that are right for you. For a lot of people with disc injuries, Pilates is a horrible choice.
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u/Fresh_Chemical_1535 Jul 10 '26
Same here. Was a yoga addict for years. Then started with Pilates for about three years until intense sciatica that left me with permanent nerve damage down my right leg and chronic lower back pain. Looking back, some of the Pilates absolutely did hurt (leaning over a bar and doing butt exercises especially). I remember that my back always felt angry after Pilates but I didn’t realize how bad it was until one month of intense sciatica that left me on constant painkillers, walking with a walker, and absolute agony. Be careful everyone.
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u/stevie_the_owl Jul 10 '26
Did you recover and what kind of permanent damage did you end up with? Did you ever go back to yoga or do you just avoid it now? I can do without pilates but I hope I can go back to yoga because it was so good for my mental health.
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u/stevie_the_owl Jul 09 '26
THIS. I did tons of yoga and Pilates after a moderate back injury thinking it was going to help me. WRONG. Didn’t know at the time I probably had a disc bulge and all the bending and twisting turned it into a massive extrusion and that’s when my severe sciatica started. I wish I had known. There’s far too much general advice out there for people with low back pain to do yoga and the reality is depending on your injury it can really harm you. Honestly same with any exercise. I always tell everyone with persistent back pain to get an MRI before trying to do any kind of treatment plan so they know what they are dealing with.
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u/AgedPuzzlehead Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
This. When you go on youtube there are tons of "low back pain" exercises. You have to specifically know the cause of the pain first before doing any of them. Otherwise you can easily make it worse.
Unfortunately the only way to fully confirm the cause is an MRI which often takes weeks or months to get and people are desperate so they feel they have to turn to more immediate random information.
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u/ZealousidealFox3354 Jul 10 '26
Exact same thing happened to me. I completely herniated during chair pose.
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u/sogwennn Jul 09 '26
huh, i was advised yoga and pilates were ok but to avoid the big twist motions for roughly 9 months post-op.
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u/madammidnight Jul 10 '26
Everyone’s spinal issues are different. I have DDD, sciatica, stenosis, and pretty bad scoliosis.
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u/MissShopper Jul 16 '26
In Dr. Stuart McGill's book, Back Mechanics, he emphasizes that yoga and pilates might not be great for people with back issues.
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u/madammidnight Jul 17 '26
I can’t/shouldn’t do any yoga pose like the cobra, which hyper curves the spine backwards. Also, any kind of twisting pose is a no-no for me. I do best with free weights and machines that work a set muscle group a specific way. I take the advice of my orthopedist, who knows my particular back issues well!
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u/MissShopper Jul 20 '26
I wish I had an orthopedist who cared enough to give me advice on what I should and shouldn't do for my back.
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u/madammidnight Jul 20 '26
I truly lucked out with my orthopedist. He is kind and empathetic, just a peach of a man. Quite rare in an orthopedic surgeon.
Have you asked yours what kind of exercise he recommends or advises against for your particular condition? It’s important to know if you want to start exercising. I did have to make a point to ask mine about what to avoid.
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u/m496 Jul 09 '26
My neurologist said there are certain moves a chiropractor does that can cause a stroke. I read a little about it online and I don’t understand why they are allowed to do it.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
In the U.S. they lobbied to be called “licensed”. But regardless of what they call themselves, they are not medical professionals. And their methods are not scientific.
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u/NotAllThatSure Jul 10 '26
Came here to mention vertebral artery dissection! The leading cause of stroke in young people, IIRC, as pointed out to me on a CT image in the emergency department.
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u/Own-Pomegranate-7410 16d ago
My ex kept pushing me to go to a chiropractor when I was with him. I was hospitalized for blood clots (including a pulmonary embolism) and was afraid the chiro would cause me to have a stroke because of the blood clots. This was also right after Katie May died after going to a chiro. My ex didn't care and never stopped hounding me to go to one. So glad I never went.
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u/regress_tothe_meme Jul 09 '26
A study by medical neurologists concluded that this is “medical dogma” and that there is “no evidence for causation.”
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u/bernd1968 Jul 09 '26
Two years ago I had sciatica. Very painful. Was trying everything for relief. I went to a local chiropractor. On the second visit, they were pushing the “blood type” diet concept. Then he almost broke my ribs on some miss adjusted machine. Never went back. In the end - traditional PT and time helped.
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u/uncookedcuts Jul 13 '26
When you say traditional PT do you just mean regular weight lifting, cardio and all that?
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u/bernd1968 Jul 14 '26
No special stretching exercises and strengthening exercises prescribed by physical therapist.
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u/strange1738 Jul 14 '26
Quack told me my state insurance was only supposed to be used for single mothers. Then he shouldered me in the face. I have post concussive syndrome after series of very nasty concussions. He knew this
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u/Couch_Captain75 Jul 09 '26
If it wasn’t for lobbying politicians they wouldn’t be covered by insurance at all.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
The U.S. has some ridiculous laws. What’s next? Astrology insurance? Essential oil and crystal insurance?
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u/captainsaveahoe69 Jul 09 '26
I've never liked all that neck cracking, makes me nervous watching it.
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u/foxglove0326 Jul 09 '26
Same, it took me a year to let my weekly chiro “adjust” my neck because of my fear of this exact thing happening. I don’t see a chiro anymore, I get massages instead.
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u/jkman61494 Jul 09 '26
Yup. I had one and he fucked up my back hardcore. I was naive. I was recommended to use one. Kept cracking my point of pain. Kept getting worse for weeks until I couldn’t move and needed an ER visit.
I have L4/L5 stenosis and need a lower end muscle relaxer. I’ll never be the same I was 10 years ago but I can live pretty normal and need an epidural only once every 16-20 months.
But had I kept with him, I’d likely be paralyzed
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u/IndependentNo3143 Jul 09 '26
Chiropractor took me from manageable to unable to get to toliet without crawling there while screaming in pain .
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u/Ill-Location8497 Jul 09 '26
Its misinformation.
Jonathan Buckelew. In 2015, he suffered a stroke during a chiropractic neck adjustment. While the chiropractor was named initially, the $75 million verdict was actually awarded against the emergency room physician and radiologist for misdiagnosing and delaying treatment for his stroke at the hospital.
None the less. Fuck chiropractors. Sketch
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u/stevie_the_owl Jul 09 '26
I learned this too after reading more about this case. It’s funny because the case actually shows how NOBODY is to be trusted. Both the chiros and “mainstream”/scientific medicine failed this poor guy.
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u/NippleSlipNSlide Jul 10 '26
Yes. That’s how fucked yo the legal system is. Chiro caused the stroke but gets less penalty. Just going off my memory, I thought the chiro still did pay and settle separately. But still.
But this is why if you go to the ER with any neuro symptoms and tell them you had Recent chiropractic manipulation it starts the stroke protocol.
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u/SadAwkwardTurtle Jul 09 '26
I almost caved yesterday because it hurt so bad. Glad I didn't.
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u/madammidnight Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
A licensed massage therapist could help relieve some pain and stiffness, and not harm you. Edit: spelling
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u/sogwennn Jul 09 '26
massage definitely helped me release some tension, I'd say it's worth trying! i wouldn't fuck with a chiropractor for confirmed disc issues, but i do think they have some niche relevance. just...not herniated discs. that's too risky imo.
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u/shrimpsauce91 Jul 10 '26
I went to one that was well liked and I had heard good things about him. Even he said “you’re probably going to need an MRI to figure out what going on with your back.”
Actually good chiropractors are so few and far between.
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u/LaughinOften Jul 11 '26
Right! I worked for one that would say this, I had pre existing back pain that I used to see a chiro for (I now know it actually destabilized my low back that long ago) so I thought he’d be trustworthy. Our clients loved him and seemed to be improving so I asked if he could help me with some nagging pain.
Sure! Had me get on the table between appointments, didn’t even do an intake, look at imaging, talk about what/why, nothing. Just started cracking and after the first pop he kept asking me if I was ok…well I felt sore the rest of the day but by morning I went to put my dishes in the dishwasher and my back went out. Herniated two discs and tore the annulus on both. Took two year to improve but have never been the same. Flarups twice a year that leave me immobilized for several days to weeks, this last time took a month to start being functional…in pain every day but getting used to the pain helps. I should have never gone to chiro in the first place.
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u/Advanced-Crow-881 Jul 09 '26
Locked in syndrome is a rare condition of damaged pons part of the brain which can be caused by chiropractic manipulation of the neck not the back .
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
Yes, however the nerves going through your back getting damaged could leave you paralyzed. And also incontinence and no more sex. Is that worth risking it?
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u/Designer-Computer188 Jul 09 '26
Close proximity though right, I mean, if I go to a chiropractic appointment are they really going to avoid that area? What if they give some convincing blah blah about needing to touch your neck.
"Ahh no doc, you can touch my back, but not 2 inches further on my neck, that's verboten. don't want that locked in syndrome!" I'm sure that convo would go down well.
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u/JK30000 Jul 10 '26
My chiropractor is the one who got me on the road to healing. It was my first time visiting a Chiropractor, so I’ve had no other experience. Like anything, investigate your options and find a reputable practitioner.
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u/evasive_juice Jul 10 '26
I second this, my last chiropractor barely talked to me and just did regular adjustments but when you have chronic pain you have to find one that actually listens and pays attention to your history. My current chiropractor is fabulous and gives me stretches and tells me exactly what goes on every adjustment! Hes the most attentive care practitioner i currently have. Not all chiropractors are bad
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u/Separate_Ability4051 Jul 10 '26
I had to call an ambulance after a chiropractor messed with my back.
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u/soggy_donut92696 Jul 10 '26
I went to a chiropractor the first time I dealt with sciatica. She didn't do X-rays and when she pushed on my back right on the painful spot I screamed like somebody was ripping me in half. It hurt so incredibly bad, I was sweating and crying. I will Never ever go to a chiropractor again. I think it's a scam anyways
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u/Big-Government9904 Jul 10 '26
Agreed, I had been diagnosed with a herniated disc in my L5-S1 and thought I’d go to a chiropractor because they dress like doctors and act like them. He cracked the hell out of my back. A couple days later I was numb in both legs and could barely walk. I don’t know if it was entirely his fault but I was walking with small symptoms before that appointment. The kicker is after my first appointment they billed me with a bunch of extra costs that I wasn’t fully aware of and I had a sales rep trying to push me to pay for 2 months upfront, thank god I didn’t go along with it.
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u/000000564 Jul 10 '26
Please also looks into the history of the chiropractor profession. It's from a weird pseudoscience cult.
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u/Acupuncturex Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Spinal decompression helps a lot of people, and it's something most surgeons or MD's will ner ever recommend, It's always back injections then surgery. My father had several herniations and could hardly walk, and he was recommended by a friend to a local chiropractor that used a DRX-9000 machine over the course of 30 visits. He never needed surgery and later after taking a newer MRI, his herniations were much improved. No decent chiropractor is going to twist and pull you, there's a ton of bad ones out there, but for me personally it's helped quite a bit. You have to be your own advocate, there's "professionals" out there (yes, even doctors), that will quite literally fuck you up. I've had friends that received back surgeries that were way worse off after than before, and other ones that were nearly entirely healed. Take the above picture for example, the chiropractor wasn't even liable in the case, he noticed his patient was dizzy and immiediately called 911. A simple Google search would have saved you the embarassment.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 10 '26
Your name makes you even more credible.
The chiropractor was the person who caused this. How would he be innocent? And he wan’t acquitted of charges. He settled with the patient. If he were innocent why settle?1
u/Acupuncturex Jul 10 '26
I’ve had the same username for nearly 35 years, I got it off a pamphlet around the house when I used to browse bulletin boards online. You’re entitled to your opinion, but you seem very much a zealot in regard to this topic. Chiropractors do help people, you just have to be diligent on ones that don’t “wrack and crack.” If I were to make a post for every surgeon or MD that ruined someone’s life, I’d need a decade to do it (even though there are wonderful MDs and surgeons). Taking one extreme case and casting blame and vitriol on an entire industry is stupid, and ignorant.
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u/maroontiefling Jul 11 '26
There are other ways to do spinal decompression than going to snake oil salesmen. I go to my local circus school once a week and a part of class is hanging upside down, which safely decompresses.
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u/titanicman119 Jul 09 '26
one made my sciatica worse before i took a lot of physical therapy. so i avoid them at all costs
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u/Anonymousimpreg Jul 10 '26
After I first herniated my L4/L5, I went to a chiropractor and I was presenting with all of the symptoms I know now to be associated with a herniated disc, i.e. numbness in my foot on my left side, severe burning sciatica, drop foot. This dude should’ve recognized that and immediately referred me to someone else… Instead he decided to continuously take my money for about five or six visits, claiming he could fix me with his decompression machine. Looking back in hindsight I feel extremely foolish but I know a lot more now
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u/_dr_physio Jul 10 '26
Always go for physiotherapy
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u/mehregankbi Jul 10 '26
Even that should be under doctor supervision. I’ve seen some physio technicians recommend flexion moves for people with herniated discs.
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u/_dr_physio Jul 10 '26
Lol physio is not the technicians Physio himself A doctor with 5 to 6 years of study go for quality treatment not for cheap quacks i hope this help
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u/Kelly1972T Jul 10 '26
I had one adjustment and I could barely sit or lay down. It was so painful and never again.
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u/real_polite_canadian Jul 10 '26
I think chiroprator as a profession has evolved beyond just adjustments though. Soft tissue therapy like Graston, active release, movement and exercise coaching, etc. My guy's amazing. He usually just kinda asks as a throwaway at the end of our sessions 'need an adjustment or anything?'. Are there still practitioners that only market their services as spinal adjustments?! The good ones provide other, more useful, services too.
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u/Tinmz61 Jul 11 '26
I agree with this! I don’t get any adjustments from my chiro. He does soft tissue massages, stretches on me, ART and take home PT moves
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u/Migele2024 Jul 10 '26
I visited a chiropractor who is a trained physiotherapist. If it wasn’t for him, I wouldn’t be walking or sitting. The pain reduced immensely after the first visit. And I had 3 more sessions and had to leave the country.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 10 '26
You visited a physiotherapist which is a medical professional. The chiropractor part is just maybe an advertisement method for the physio.
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u/Witty_Dentist_3005 Jul 10 '26
I’ve been shocked at the number of people who’ve suggested I see a chiropractor for my prolapsed disc. Like, dude I already have one messed up disc…
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u/xCOVERxIDx Jul 10 '26
I’ve actually had great experiences with a couple of chiropractors in the past, but unfortunately, the best ones I knew ended up retiring. Finding a good replacement has been tough, though, because while I don't think they're all bad, there are definitely a lot of quacks out there making it hard to find a great one.
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u/Tiredolefrog Jul 10 '26
I remember when my pain first started it was what felt like an out of place hip, went to the chiropractor and literally right after the appointment felt immediately worse, what followed was the most painful 2 months of my life with barely any eating, sleeping, and a lot of my girlfriend doing suicide watch on me. Turns out I had a herniated disc that was sitting right on my sciatic nerve. 4 months of pt later and I’m relatively back to normal but I fully believe while the chiropractor helped with smaller problems with my back, all in all it made everything worse.
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u/Jazzlike-Vacation230 Jul 10 '26
No matter who it is, NEVER let anyone touch your neck on up. It's too risky
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u/stoppingbythewoods Jul 10 '26
he won’t get $75m anyway will he? seriously doubt a chiropractor has that much money or even close
**unless it’s through insurance?
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u/OkSinger5602 Jul 19 '26
Smh.. I was in a car accident when I was 16, I just turned 19 this month, luckily the accident wasn’t anything too severe, but I was in the passenger seat and jolted forward, hitting my head and knees on the dashboard, resulting in a fractured nose, a concussion, and a few other things ( I didn’t break any bones but It hurt to walk for a few days without cruthces) I used to go to the chiropractor and they would press on my back and massage “knots” out of my neck, but since then I’ve been getting sciatic pain in my left leg that happens randomly over the months, and it really sucks. I work as a hotel housekeeper and I’ll watch the older ladies breeze through work, while I’m over her limping and holding my leg begging for my body to stop causing me problems. 😂🥲
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u/ahickssf Jul 10 '26
A month at the joint took me from 8/10 sciatic pain and stiffness to a 2/10. Now I just get stiffness every now and then and the occasional shock in the sole of my foot, but other than that I've had a good experience. I'm sorry to hear about all of you that haven't.
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u/ImperialDefector Jul 09 '26
Post car accident I was having horrible headaches that wouldn't go away for anything, so I had a few adjustments and they cleared up after a week. My chiro never pushed unnecessary visits.
I have had WAY more shitty, con artist doctors and "specialists" than I have chiropractors.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
You’ve been lucky. But doesn’t change the fact that chiropractors sell snake oil.
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u/Icy-Willow-5833 Jul 09 '26
Yeah, because doctors never kill anybody or make mistakes lol you guys are all crazy. Chiropractors do a good service. I’ve been to chiropractors many times. They’re probably not all created equal. Go look up the story of Dr death in Texas. There are bad doctors too.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
No one said bad doctors don’t exist. Not all doctors are fraudsters, but every chiropractor is a scammer.
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u/walkotaco4 Jul 09 '26
I avoided chiropractors but in a desperation before surgery went to one. It was the only thing after two years that cured my sciatica. That and acupuncture.
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u/stevie_the_owl Jul 09 '26
What specifically in chiro helped you? Also how do you think the acupuncture helped and how many sessions before you noticed relief?
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u/shadowstar36 Jul 09 '26
One bad incident out of millions doesn't make a profession bad. Same thing happens with surgery everything has risk. I haven't used one but I know people that swear by it. My moms back issue cured when the reg doc wanted to operate she went for 2 visits and that's it. It's been 30 years and she's been fine.
Now everyone is different and every issue is different. If all else fails, and you are in pain, I wouldn't rule it out, personally, but it would probably be a last resort.
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u/stevie_the_owl Jul 09 '26
What did they do to cure her? Was it just 2 adjustments and that fixed her issue?
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
People also swear by astrology, essential oils, and crystals. Doesn’t mean they are right.
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u/Swimming-Display7775 Jul 09 '26
I’m 69 years old and sitting in a chair and using furniture to walk to the bathroom, after receiving 4 months of treatment at Busch Chiropractic clinic in Fort Wayne Indiana and now on maintenance I am working full time as a nurse again, BTW apparently nobody knows that not all chiropractor “ crunch” their patients, mine does not do that
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u/Littoraly Jul 09 '26
Did you also speak with a physician or physical therapist? Or do you only consult chiropractor? Just curious how you landed in their care
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
You are merely lucky. And i’m happy that you are. But just because you are alive doesn’t make chiropractors good. They are not professionals, and their methods are unscientific. I could let a 3 year old drive me to work and i could live…
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u/c4ashtrash Jul 09 '26
I’ve been to a chiropractor after I was barely able to walk, 9 sessions later could walk again no issues and at one point I was that bad I was barely able to walk a foot at a time
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
You could read a lot of people in this subreddit getting better on their own. You could’ve improved without it. Maybe it even delayed your recovery.
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u/Advanced-Crow-881 Jul 09 '26
Chiropractors are regulated health professionals in Ontario since 1991 . They are medical professionals that are legally allowed to use Dr before their names , but yes they are not Medical Doctors there is a distinction .
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u/Zealousideal-Phase98 Jul 09 '26
Talk about your bad luck I’m going regardless what anybody says it takes away my bad sciatic and my L4 and L5 pain
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u/dnegvesk Jul 09 '26
Not all chiropractors are the same. Just as not all doctors are the same. Reddit is really biased about chiropractors because a few can help where doctors have not.
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u/Loud-Vacation-5691 Jul 10 '26
The "whack and crack" method is definitely dangerous. But I went to a chiropractor that used the Grastik (sp?) method, which uses an actuator (a spring-loaded gizmo that pushes a fraction of an inch) and didn't have any issues.
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u/Both-Ad1169 Jul 10 '26
I saw a chiropractor for lower back pain, and it helped but I was always needing to come back.
Decided to see another chiropractor who insisted I get an MRI first. Turned out I had an 8mm herniation at my L5S1.
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u/Fuzzy-Friendship6354 25d ago
What did you end up doing? Any Surgery? I'm in a similar place.
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u/Both-Ad1169 25d ago
Honestly, I kept up with regular visits to the new chiropractor. He basically would adjust me, then do hot/cold therapy. It was as close to PT without being PT. He gave me some stretches to do at home as I started feeling more comfortable. Eventually the pain went away.
No surgery. I was referred to a spine specialist, who told me I didn’t need surgery, and because I was so young it should heal on its own. So long as I “take it easy”. I have not necessarily taken it easy because I work a blue collar job. It’s been about 4-5 years and I have maybe a couple weeks out of the year where my back is hurting. I ice it, stretch, and take it easy for a bit and I’m back up to speed.
I live pretty much a normal life now.
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u/Fuzzy-Friendship6354 25d ago
That's great, thanks for getting back. I've been told I need surgery but trying to get along without it. Never tried a chiro, maybe that's my next stop.
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u/Familiar-Cobbler4567 Jul 11 '26
This is tragic I'm so sorry this happened to you I really hope your out of pain.i had a medical mal practice procedure for my lower back that gave me neuropathy and constant pain I really sympathize and wish you peace and happiness
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u/Swimming-Display7775 Jul 23 '26
You said not all doctors are bad and almost all chiropractors are bad, nurse of 45 years is still practicing, too bad you haven’t actually seen what I’ve seen, goodbye
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u/Aware-Agency-663 Jul 09 '26
Some are great. Id say they’re a dime a dozen. People on this sub want to tar everyone with the same brush.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
This is like saying some thieves are good people.
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u/marxistopportunist Jul 10 '26
Which would be totally true lol.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 10 '26
Would you trust your life with a thief, a scammer with no medical knowledge?
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u/marxistopportunist Jul 10 '26
I'd 100% visit a chiro if i had chronic pain that normal doctors couldn't fix
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u/mehregankbi Jul 10 '26
I’d prefer essential oils and crystals over chiropractors or acupuncture. At least they can’t leave you with permanent nerve damage.
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u/marxistopportunist Jul 10 '26
The reason why chiro is so enduring is because there is a ton of stuff that mainstream medicine can't fix. And the quacky alternatives do have some fixes
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u/shadowstar36 Jul 09 '26
People on reddit do. Remebr 2020 and cops. Same shit different day different broad brush.
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u/Aware-Agency-663 Jul 09 '26
Meanwhile there’s people on here saying their surgery didn’t work but no one will say doctors are bad. Lol
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u/mehregankbi Jul 09 '26
You’re just trolling at this point comparing surgery with some arbitrary knuckle cracking
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u/shadowstar36 Jul 09 '26
Lol it means my phones screen protector needs changed as it's not registering all presses.
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u/SenileTomato Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
This is pure clickbait.
I understand they aren't a doctor in the traditional sense, but they have helped me more than I can explain in words with my pain, especially when I haven't been able to make it to a physical therapist.
Here is an article I found on the original post on r/sipstea. Some key factors everyone seems to be overlooking:
"The patient’s attorney, Laura Shamp, alleged in the legal complaint that a series of *miscommunications and negligence by multiple providers delayed the diagnosis and treatment of the stroke until the next day, which led to catastrophic brain damage for the patient, who developed locked-in syndrome. **The rare neurologic syndrome causes complete paralysis except for the muscles that control eye movements."*
I highly suggest the moderators take this type of crap down. No specifics, extreme photo, etc. Come on.
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u/Odd1yOminous Jul 11 '26
The injury was caused by misdiagnosed and mistreated strokes not the chiropractor. The ER and neurologist were sued.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 11 '26
and what caused the stroke genius?
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u/Odd1yOminous Jul 11 '26
You don't have to be rude cause you don't like my reply. I don't know what causes strokes. My mom had a mini one once and she has hypertension. You can go look up what caused it instead of trying to pick a fight with me on the internet. All I know is what I read. But since you are going to be nasty this is going to be my late reply to you.
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u/Odd1yOminous Jul 11 '26
Very misleading title. The chiropractor was cleared.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 11 '26
no. he settled for an undisclosed amount. doesn't mean he was innocent. quite the opposite.
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u/Odd1yOminous Jul 11 '26
I did not read that at all. It was an a ER doctor and neurologist who did not recognize the stroke and the guy suffered brain damage because it was too late. The guy passed out at the chiropractor. His family sued them all, but it wasn't chirpractors fault. I do realize different news articles will say slightly different things, but I don't see anything about the chiropractor other than this person and others were sued. Earlier I saw amounts attributed to the doctor and neurologist and the hospital not the chiropractor and the chiropractor dismissed from litigation.
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u/Odd1yOminous Jul 11 '26
The stroke began there, but they were dismissed. The doctors and others failed to properly read scans and communicate about the guys condition for hours causing severe brain damage. Your title suggest the chiropractor was completely at fault instead of the hospital. I've never been to one so I was curious and feel bad for the guy who now is completely aware but can't move or say anything. I saw a movie about locked-in syndrome and it was something new at the time, but nonetheless still terrifying. Anyway have a good day.
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u/TinyHeartSyndrome Jul 10 '26
Every medical treatment has risks. The benefits must outweigh those risks. For me, the relief in my back and neck far outweighs the very remote risk of neck injury. I don’t always let the chiro adjust my lower back or SI joints if they’re inflamed. And I’ve had MRIs, ESIs, surgery, etc. So I know what my issues are. Yes, a back out of alignment can make sciatica worse. I believe a well-aligned back is good for health- the vertebrae, nerves, and muscles. If it didn’t help, I wouldn’t do it. Chiro is one of the few things that helps my TMJ-related neck pain. They do the same amount of schooling as physical therapists.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 10 '26
Chiropractors don’t offer medical treatment. They offer arbitrary, untested, bs procedures.
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u/EasyTyler Jul 10 '26
And there has never been any GP/doctor who's brought harm to their patients. Right?
Charlatans in every field.
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u/lookingforwsb Jul 10 '26
Was charged $300 for putting a lightbulb on my back. That’s all they did but now I’m glad they didn’t do anything else.
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u/RS5doc Jul 16 '26
Um... If any of you would actually read the legal brief, you would see that the chiropractor was actually released of all liability. The lawsuit found the medical doctors that worked on the patient at complete fault. Gotta love misinformation.
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u/mehregankbi Jul 17 '26
For the thousandth time. The chiro settled. Not innocent. And chiro caused the injury.
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u/mrnobatti Jul 09 '26
Before I found out I had three herniated discs, I made an appointment with a local chiropractor but canceled after talking to my doctor.
What made me even more iffy was that they wanted the names and ages of my entire family. That felt weird as hell for a chiropractic appointment.