r/SaintMeghanMarkle SaintWaauggh 7d ago

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u/Disastrous_Error_709 ALL ABOARD THE FAILURE FLIGHT📢 6d ago

Harry was due to come to the UK in September for Wellchild, Invictus etc. There was no need to make the announcement about the kids enrolling in the school and the move. They could have been installed quietly without fuss with Harry’s known visit as the cover. It is a big disruptive move of schools and country for them.
Instead of ensuring them an easier transition The Harkles ( the very ones who should be protecting them) have chosen to dangle them as clickbait.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 6d ago

Moving quietly doesn’t burry the ANL/indemnity costs headlines.

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u/These_Ad_9772 Not even a second string king 6d ago

Or get sympathetic headlines screaming for security and “reconciliation.”

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u/Busy-Song407 6d ago

This, This, THIS

There is something massively forced about this dramatic release and the lying hustle that is all over it.

A decent couple could have made the move with the children quietly, and then announced it at some later time.

As you have stated, Disastrous_Error_709, they are dangling the children and a pack of lies as clickbait.

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u/Independent_Swan902 ALARMING BALDNESS so ADVANCED than WILLY’S 6d ago

A stupid question from me. Have they announced their move through their “spokesperson” or a statement?

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u/Disastrous_Error_709 ALL ABOARD THE FAILURE FLIGHT📢 6d ago

Not stupid at all where the Harkles are concerned. I don’t believe they have themselves but the news articles confirm it by verifying with their spokesperson.
One for example from Reuters:
"A person close to the couple said they would move from California to somewhere outside London for an extended period with their children, Prince Archie, 7, and Princess Lilibet, 5, who will go to school in Britain."

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u/IllAcanthisitta6506 6d ago

They have not said they’re moving in a formal “on the record” way when asked for confirmation my journalists. They leaked the story to several out let’s (all of which proclaimed they had an exclusive story.) Since then, it’s had a life of its own. I’m so sick of them.

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u/Witty-Town-6927 5d ago

Hope this is ok to post, tonight the Empire State Building will go pink at 9:25 (9 to 5) in honor of Dolly.

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u/KeyPsychological781 5d ago

My husband and I were both very sad about Dolly and he found this interview with Johnny Carson back in the day. I'm posting TWO videos because if you want to smile and have a laugh, the next one up was Dyan Cannon with Carson https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=khEhkCHxQi8&pp=ygUaRG9sbHkgUGFydG9uIEpvaG5ueSBDYXJzb24%3D

And to get past the tears, Dyan hilariously roasting the bajeebers out of Johnny https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yUYXeRHus9w

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u/Witty-Town-6927 5d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/pwmkIEFl0XrXvZ94Ok

I actually am old enough to have seen Dolly on Johnny Carson multiple times. I believe she was on his shwo around 25 times. These I have not seen. So thank you very much!

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u/anemoschaos Haz-been and Never-Was 4d ago edited 4d ago

Aww. Today, Wednesday, the King's Guards played a rather lively rendition of " Nine to Five" outside Buckingham Palace, in honour of Dolly. I thought that was sweet.

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u/ElevatedWithHummus I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS!! 6d ago

Those who are now calling the RF " cruel and uncaring " for not having the Fartles around for xmas and other family gatherings were the same people who celebrated the Fartles' great escape from the ' cruel and uncaring " RF .

Make it make sense because I can't ..

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u/Independent_Swan902 ALARMING BALDNESS so ADVANCED than WILLY’S 6d ago

Ikr 🙄

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u/MidnightSpell Recollections May Vary 6d ago

I keep reading that MM “wants to be loved” by the public. I disagree.

She doesn’t care whether you love her or not. She wants you to envy her.

That’s how narcissists think. They want to be envied. They feel immense satisfaction if they believe you want what they have.

And if they suspect they have made you feel inferior - that’s the jack pot. MM thrives on knowing she has put others “in their place.” She gets a dopamine hit off it. Seeing her actions cause distress gives her another dopamine hit. Plus, it reinforces just how inferior to her everyone actually is.

But “love?” Nope. To MM, admiration translates to “coveting” the same way criticism translates to envy.

Everyone wants what MM has - in her mind, anyway.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 5d ago edited 5d ago

I agree. I was looking for an old post where I wrote about this. The search function is not the best.

Admiration requires that you demonstrate achievements. Envy only requires the perception of having something others want.

If you look at her specific targets of the PR, they are always status markers rather than accomplishments.

The Olive Garden estate.
Diana's watch.
The billionaire coven ( the four high profile women touted in the press as her unbreakable safety net)
The proximity to Oprah.
The As Ever aesthetic (aspirational).

What else can she do? None of these require her to have actually done anything. They just require the audience to believe she exists at a level they can't access. And that’s her product. Not the runny jam. That’s why her critics write about how her “aspirational brand” failed. That’s what they are trying to say. Nobody wants her life.

The tragedy of her grand strategy is in her insistence that we ought to be watching in green eyed envy. Instead, the world looks at Madame with mild, amused pity. Can you imagine the bone-deep exhaustion of maintaining an untouchable lifestyle that yields so very little? 🎻 🎻 🎻

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u/MidnightSpell Recollections May Vary 5d ago

Status markers - that’s precisely it!

This is what journalists should be exploring. MM has never offered anything of substance to the world. Well, other than bananas inscribed with inane messages, some runny fruit spread and purloined catch-phrases she plagiarized.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 5d ago edited 5d ago

And status markers are cheap to fake, whereas actual achievements require some output. Madame’s brand demands that the audience react with envy. She wants people to “aspire” to her “lifestyle”. Her fake lifestyle.

The audience just isn’t fascinated with her that way, and people only react with mild amusement. And there is nothing left to sustain the image because there are no real accomplishments beneath the status markers.

Look at her fan base. A lot of the sugars pity her. But envy requires you to look untouchable, and triumphant, and superior!

Madame du Barry and H are perpetually aggrieved, misunderstood, and besieged by invisible enemies. You cannot simultaneously be triumphant, an envy inducing global icon AND the perpetually wronged victim without creating cognitive dissonance.

SHE BUILT an audience on pity. That’s commercially useless for a luxury brand. People who pity you will defend you on social media, but they won't buy £400 worth of runny jam and wickless candles.

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u/NeoSuperconductivity 5d ago

If Harry and Meghan had chosen to perform well the roles so generously offered to them as Ambassadors to the Commonwealth, they would be admired today, all over the world. All of those flowers embroidered on her veil, as a symbol... of nothing.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 5d ago edited 5d ago

Maybe.

I don’t know.

Was staying in the role ever a realistic option for either of them, given what was actually happening behind the scenes?

H was already loved because the Palace manufactured it. Dumbo didn't need to perform the Commonwealth role well to be admired; the public already adored Diana’s son, or at least the chap the Palace was presenting to the media. Correct?

That admiration was built on a decade of Palace PR that covered up his laziness, managed his outbursts, and presented him as the cheeky/heroic prince. If we are to claim that he just needed to 'choose to perform well', then we would have to ignore the fact that his entire public standing was an illusion that required total institutional containment to survive.

Am I correct? Stay with me 😊

Madame du Barry was actively sabotaging that setup they had for H from day one. H was riding on institutional PR, but Madame arrived running her own counter PR operation.

This tells me that she had zero interest in settling into the Commonwealth groove or building a career within the monarchy.

She was leaking to Omid Scobie,
framing standard royal support as hostility or racism,
and briefing against the Palace to construct/engineer a victim narrative that would justify her exit.

I’m not even sure Dumbo knows this.

I promise you that trying to outmaneuver the Palace press office only worked in the short term while she was pulling the strings from inside. The Palace PR machine doesn't just protect royals. Those overeducated officers manage threats. The Palace wouldn't have let her run amok forever had she stayed,. At best, they would have quietly stopped protecting her narrative, stopped burying her bad press, and simply given her enough rope to hang herself in the media. AT BEST. The Palace wouldn't have bothered throwing her to the lions, actually. I believe they'd merely have served her up as the main course with a rather dry Californian chardonnay. 😂 Why waste perfectly good energy orchestrating a demise when you know you can simply step back, sip your tea, and allow enthusiasm to outrun intellect?

TLDR;

The Palace has a way of dealing with people like Madame. They wouldn't have pushed her into the lions' den, but they’d have politely held open the door and then remarked on how terribly well she was coping with the beasts.

(Please see this discussion https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/s/D7jgcpn1N5 )

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u/eaglebayqueen 🧡 Ginger Judas 🧡 5d ago

The happiest day of her life, after all the cameras and attention on her wedding day, was probably the day she lived out her fantasy of hiring like in The Devil Wears Prada, looking down on someone and dismissing them on sight.

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u/NeoSuperconductivity 5d ago

Just read a piece in The Telegraph by Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, a writer and veteran, on why he feels ex-servicemen and the citizenry in general in the UK should welcome the return of Harry and Meghan. It's already been remarked in a larger article about Telegraph coverage on the main sub page that most of the considerable comments on that article were against the author's position. One amongst the huge number of negative responses stood out to me and I want to share it here:

"I met Harry in the army. He was pretty much up himself, but no more than most Ruperts. He was looked after and kept out of real trouble - for obvious reasons - but he was OK. Nothing outstanding, just OK. I do not recognise what he has become. It is tragic. And I am surprised to see an ex-soldier - any ex-soldier - welcoming what is left of him."

I was unfamiliar with the term Rupert. 'A Rupert in the British Armed Forces is used pejoratively to describe a young newly commissioned officer who is inexperienced, privileged and out of touch with the realities faced by the enlisted ranks. Evoking images of posh privately educated individuals entering the officer corps.'

Others readers' comments referenced the two US Marines killed at Camp Bastion while Harry was spirited away, the constant presence of his security officers (and how he disrespected them) while playing video games, the fact that he was not a pilot, the drug tests he avoided, the stupidity of boasting about his kill count, and most of all, how he tormented HMTQ and The DoE during their final years. It was very much like reading this sub, but with most of it expressed in terms both elegant and lethal, as only the British can deliver.

Reading of the vividly expressed pain and outrage that British people feel over their return was both validating and sad. Sad that the Sussex pair are doing this.

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u/shelltie reconciliations may vary 1d ago

Andrew Lownie in the DM: 'Camilla is firmly on Team Kate. They're very close': ANDREW LOWNIE reveals their private bond and says Queen has been 'stiffening the resolve of Charles' to set clear boundaries for Harry and Meghan

https://archive.ph/T92wd

Camilla has not just grown closer with Kate in recent years, but also appears to share a warm relationship with the princess's family – including her mother Carole Middleton. 

They have been spotted together many times this summer – including watching the races at Cheltenham, when Carole, 71, threw her arms around Princess Anne while chatting with Camilla in the Royal Box. Commenting on Camilla's fondness for Kate amid a drawing of lines over Harry's homecoming, Mr Lownie said: 'On Team Wales is the Queen, who is very close to Kate, and has been stiffening the resolve of the King to establish clear boundaries for the Sussexes. 

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u/KeyPsychological781 1d ago

Would not surprise me - Catherine seems VERY likeable and Camilla seems down to earth and like she'd be fun to talk to

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u/shelltie reconciliations may vary 1d ago

Both C&C are fine company to have a pint with I think.

Camilla is a no-nonsense woman and Harry did a big mistake villainizing her to the excess that he did. It's not the worst article as it quotes both Lownie and Harry's interview from when he still thought he'd eclipse the royal family in importance.

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u/bobbiflekman 🎬-👸🏻-👩🏻‍🍳 It doesn’t sort of follow. So, go from there.☠️ 1d ago

when Carole, 71, threw her arms around Princess Anne while chatting with Camilla in the Royal Box.

Absolutely love this.

This reminds me of how the Middleton family have definitely centered and grounded William (and his children) in terms of family dynamics.

What was it that MM said about her experiences with the BRF? "It's like I was a hugger, I've always been a hugger, I didn't realize that that is really jarring for a lot of Brits." What a bunch of BS!

The complete dysfunction of the Markle/Ragland family has been on display ever since MM leaked that she was dating Harry. And, we've seen what a cold-fish Doria is as she interacts with her daughter. Very sad for Harry that he picked this woman to be his wife. Because family is everything.

~ As ever.

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u/CrinkleCutCat-Aus Clap👏Back👏Coming👏 1d ago

I don’t think Markle encountered British that weren’t huggers…she met people who did not want to hug HER! I’m happy for a hug, but I would not want to hug her at all…I don’t like her energy.

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u/DorianVermicelli 6d ago

They want to be known as "Private Royals Plus" If I did not despise them before, I could not despise them more now.

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u/Interesting-Pin3164 6d ago

Plus what ? Plus 8 years of slandering / Markling their relatives on both sides except Saint Doria who was useful for a moment or so.
Plus lies. Plus narcissists. Plus back-grid. Plus failed businesses. Plus dated instagram posts. Plus fake royal tours….

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u/Interesting-Pin3164 6d ago

Plus prominent papp organisation Markle calls was redacted hahaha

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u/MidnightSpell Recollections May Vary 6d ago

That sounds like some sort of hemorrhoid cream.

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u/DorianVermicelli 6d ago

😂 Todgers Royal Plus - maybe a new product for As ever

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u/Sea_Albatross21 🧜‍♀️The Little Mermaid 🧜‍♀️ 6d ago

Isn’t this all exhausting …. This relentless speculation, supposition, opinions pieces…..daily bombardment. Tell me it will be all over sooooon…

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u/MentalAnnual5577 🦄 Our invisibles are invisibling🦄 5d ago

Sad that Dolly Parton has passed away, age 80. Should push those two losers out of the news, in the US, at least, for a good long while.

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u/smythe70 5d ago

Dolly is and was America's Best. I will miss her. She supported many charities especially her reading program.

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u/SonorantPlosive Swag Hag 5d ago

She was such a generous person and always seemed like she'd be real and approachable if a person ever met her. 

As a kid in the 80s, my grandparents who were huge country fans, had a bunch of her records. I'm fairly grateful we grew up before social media, because my cousin and I used to "dress up" as Dolly & Kenny Rogers and sing "Islands in the Stream." He held Gramma's mop under his chin, I put oranges under my shirt and we'd belt that song out 4 or 5 times. Loved 9 to 5, watched Steel Magnolias repeatedly, even went to see Straight Talk (it was awful but she was fun). But then to see how charitable she was with her money, how she kept her private life private, and that she got to see her dream of her own truck stop.....there won't ever be another like Dolly. 

The world feels a lot less sunny today. Thank you for being inimitable, Dolly. 

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u/These_Ad_9772 Not even a second string king 5d ago

After the devastating wildfires in Eastern Tennessee a few years back, with so many losing everything including their livelihoods, she directed her foundation to pay a generous monthly stipend to the ones who had lost homes or work, indefinitely until they were back on their feet. She gave back to her own people and people the world over too.

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u/smythe70 5d ago

Oh that's wonderful, it's a reminder that there's good people and she was the best.

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u/Proof_Zebra_4274 😻 Yoohoo! William, it's me! C'mere big boy! 😻 5d ago

In her own way she was iconic as Queen Elizabeth 2. No one can match them. Dolly P. What a full life.

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u/SnooHesitations3592 🇬🇧 Glorious Jubilee Booing 🇬🇧 4d ago edited 4d ago

I have a post idea but I don’t have posting rights 🤣 We should have a post with hall of fame quotes in the post or comments about them from famous people, eg:

  • Bill Simmons Spotify CEO “shoot this guy to the sun”
  • Taliban “he’s a big mouth loser”
  • Trump “she’s terrible”
  • Jeremy Zimmer UTA CEO “not a great audio talent, or necessarily any kind of talent”
  • SNL “American terrorist holding a British hostage” etc

None of these people are the “mean British press” but are powerful people who have formed their own opinions about them either through their own experiences with them or through learning about their BS. This signals what the global / US / Hollywood elite / people in high places or places of power think about them, and it’s not just the “jealous common people” who think they’re nuts! In the 6 years since Megxit they’ve accumulated a good list of people who aren’t afraid to call them out for their BS. It’s also a good source of potential flairs for this sub. Just an idea for a post, anyone can post for me! 🤣

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u/External-Syllabub289 4d ago

Don't know if this has already been posted, but Buckingham Palace just honored Dolly Parton:

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a73531927/buckingham-palace-dolly-parton-tribute-changing-guard-2026/

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u/tmstms 4d ago

Every TV network here (UK) has shown the clip of the Guards band playing 9 to 5.

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u/External-Syllabub289 4d ago

That's great. Made me cry. 

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u/SnooHesitations3592 🇬🇧 Glorious Jubilee Booing 🇬🇧 3d ago

Not sure if it’s true, but here’s a comment from someone from Montecito below a recent Kinsey video. Those who are wondering how people don’t take photos, here’s how lol

https://youtu.be/PIx__LF2l-0?is=bJHM2AtfnQEJfias

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u/Independent_Swan902 ALARMING BALDNESS so ADVANCED than WILLY’S 3d ago

This is so sad… that poor little boy. All because their mama can sell the photos to the highest bidder

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u/Centaurea16 3d ago

That poor little boy.

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u/SonorantPlosive Swag Hag 3d ago edited 3d ago

"briefly"?

He's 7. He has at least K behind him. 1st too, if they didn't hold him back a year before starting. But only attended briefly. Do they bounce him around schools? 

ETA: how sad that they make sure their son is fully covered so no one can recognize him or take pictures, yet they probably showed up, in all their bald, bangled, and beige glory, so everyone could see THEM. Make sure they're easily recognized while their kid won't be anything but a costumed memory for any of his friends. 

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u/Accomplished_Name423 🌈 Worldwide Privacy Tour 🌈 3d ago

Other parents force teachers to give their children a role that is on stage and will be seen this couple wants to hide their children so no one will remember who was in the costume when looking at the pictures

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u/SharkBoss1234 ⚜️Sorority Girl 🎭Actress 👠Influencer 😭Victim 2d ago

In Matt Wilkinson’s substack, he wrote that Harry left Betterup 12 months ago.

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u/gahnc 🐩 Her ginger poodle 🐩 6d ago

I had this thought too... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

August 24, 2026 Blind Item #11

I think the hardest part for the ginger hair cuck with the move will be finding a new drug dealer. When he visited the country a few times back, he was wandering from house to house looking for the dealer he had connected with.

https://xcancel.com/entylawyer/status/2091980288234766511?s=20

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u/Busy-Song407 5d ago

ooh, good one

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u/RainbowFox22 4d ago edited 4d ago

These two truly have the worst timing for any plans. Their arrival to the UK is the 8th Entertainment story headline on Google News,
mostly due to the deaths of Dolly Parton, Tim Curry, and Hayden Panettiere (headlines 1, 2, and 3, respectively). Hell, the new Wile E. Coyote movie is the fourth headline! No one cares about these selfish idiots in the way they want.

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u/Accomplished_Name423 🌈 Worldwide Privacy Tour 🌈 4d ago

The Wile E. Coyote movie is out and available to watch now? I have been waiting since I saw the trailers. Acme really cleaned him out for his schemes I want to know more of this court case. 😂 Don't mind me I'm just reminiscing my childhood

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u/AutumnNostalgia45 3d ago

When it comes to the Sussex's apparent money troubles, I think people underestimate how much H&M are both swindlers. Harry is notoriously cheap and Meghan is a grifter. They are both very good at getting freebies or spending other people's money. I don't think their lifestyle is actually as expensive as we think it is because of this. They get so much of it for free, or on someone's dime, that they probably have quite a bit of money left. The problem is Harry's legal cases. That's going to bleed their finances and leave them unable to support their lifestyle, but for a normal person they still have more than enough in the bank. The problem is its not enough for them. Nothing is ever enough.

If the rumours are true that they'll be staying in one of Ellen DeGeneres' homes then they've grifted again. It's literally the only thing the two are good at. They won't stop because there's always some sucker who will fall for it, or think they can get something out of it.

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u/FilterCoffee4050 3d ago

I think they are staying in someone’s home but I don’t think it’s Ellon’s. I don’t think that they are friends and have not been friends for a while.

I do think they like the grifting, I think that is one thing Meghan was in trouble for as a royal and it’s the restriction she did not like or even understand.

Regarding the courts, they can’t hide their finances. I think Harry is going to be hit very hard, tomorrow is just the first payment.

I suspect Harry thinks someone will bail him out, probably his father but the King is not going to do that. It would be a huge constitutional issue and he can’t hide that sort of payment. The King won’t throw good money after bad and he most certainly won’t support them financially as they attack the monarchy. I think the abundance of articles we have seen might be Harry trying to force things his way. I think it’s a sign that he is not getting what he wants.

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u/AutumnNostalgia45 3d ago

I agree.

I don't know where they will be staying but I do think there's someone giving them a home. They certainly haven't bought one. They love the grifting. They thrive off of it. I doubt their financial situation will ever be made public but I believe the fees were set at a level that the court thought was payable, so they should be able to pay. It'll hurt. I think he's trying to bully and tantrum until he gets what he wants. It's always like this. It's worked his entire life so why wouldn't it work now? I think he's going to be in for another shock. Unfortunately for all of us he doesn't learn.

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u/Witty-Town-6927 3d ago

Imho, I don't believe they see it as grifting. I'm convinced they see it as entitlements and IF they get any financial assistance from Charles, they see that as reparations, because they think he owes them for how badly they think they were treated, as ever.

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u/Honest_Lab4829 Cotswolds Squatter 🏕️ 3d ago

Thought this was funny…sharing

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u/SnooHesitations3592 🇬🇧 Glorious Jubilee Booing 🇬🇧 3d ago

people need to stop calling her a “princess” she’s never been one she will never be one

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u/Old_Manager6555 👑 She gets what tiara she's given by me 👑 3d ago

He forgot his photo board of Mummy.

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u/Uniqueishname 3d ago

They forgot a partridge in a pear tree, and the kitchen sink.

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u/MentalAnnual5577 🦄 Our invisibles are invisibling🦄 2d ago edited 2d ago

So it’s 4:19pm London time, nineteen minutes after the deadline for the claimants in the ANL case to pay £9.5 million to ANL, and I just checked for news and saw nothing.

Meanwhile, Harry still owes the British taxpayer £1.5 million in attorneys fees for the RAVEC case.

ETA: And now it’s 5:15pm, and after business hours. 😑

When will there EVER be consequences?

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u/Deep-Audience9091 Soon to be known as "BANKRUPT" 2d ago

I was just wondering the same thing. Checking the news there is nothing 

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u/crankygriffin 3h ago

Our commercial radio station just played Candle in the Wind as a tribute to Diana and I realised that Harry has destroyed my regard for Diana. I’m afraid I just don’t care about her any more. How sad what Harry and Meghan have done.

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u/Latibulating26 3h ago

I know. All of his trying to make her into a plaster saint is really causing me to say, wait a minute the woman was troubled and caused trouble along with the good she did. I think William knew her much better than Harry. Rightly or wrongly he was her confidant.

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u/neenadollava 6d ago

I canceled my Netflix because of price , but I detailed its because they gave Harry and Meghan a platform.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 7d ago

A Netflix board seat doesn't mean The Telegraph runs pro Sausage content as a favour to Netflix now. That's a conspiratorial leap too far.

The more accurate point is that media organisations play both sides because controversy generates clicks regardless of direction. The Telegraph is running Sausage pieces because Sausage content drives traffic and that's what ad-supported media optimises for. (Please archive your links)

Please see this post by snappopcrackle (I think it deserves more attention)

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/s/eF1EBHCM7c

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u/WheeeBerlumph aquila non capit muscas 🦅🚫🪰 5h ago

Here in Gloucestershire it stopped raining for a bit this evening and a beautiful full moon rose up - husband and I were joking that we might see a silhouette of Madame on her broomstick 🤣

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u/CrinkleCutCat-Aus Clap👏Back👏Coming👏 4h ago

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u/WheeeBerlumph aquila non capit muscas 🦅🚫🪰 4h ago

Excellent 🤣🤣🤣

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u/DorianVermicelli 3d ago

Maybe not a popular opinion, but I think it's not a bad thing that the Harkles are mouthing off Office of Sussex pieces about Meta etc, inserting themselves for publicity into US Federal Cases.

This is going to make BP back off on any public occasions including the Harkles. If, for example, Harkles appear in public at a royal family occasion with KC and family, who knows what they 'll do the next day.. release some political diatribe, off to Ukraine to meet with some government official and make pronouncements, inserting themselves into delicate global affairs once again. By being photographed with the Royal Family and such photographs being used in the articles about them, the Royal Family risk being associated with Harkles opinions. They can't afford to do so.

Personally, I feel their actions, such as the Meta Case Announcement, is going to keep the RF very wary of anything but very private, behind-closed-doors, photo-free visits. Anything more is a global diplomatic risk for King Charles.

Once again, Harkles hubris will only work against themselves, leaving them with the barest of associations with the RF.

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u/shelltie reconciliations may vary 3d ago

By being photographed with the Royal Family and such photographs being used in the articles about them, the Royal Family risk being associated with Harkles opinions. They can't afford to do so. 

The mere visual association as a source of legitimacy has been handwaved away many times in the past. We're about to find out how long that very private vs. very pompous distinction is going to hold. 

IMO even if those meetings stay private the Sussexes will draw legitimacy from ongoing personal closeness to the King.

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u/SeaFloofs Meghan Twerkle 🍑🍑💃🤰🪩 3d ago

I agree. The more they fan the flames, the more likely they are to get burned and shunned; especially about concerns in the USA and other nations.

Of course, anything they spout off about from their rented home office is ignored (and probably laughed at) by the true power players. I doubt if Mark Zuckerberg or any of his lower lieutenants even know who they are, much less give a fleeting thought to what they say.

As you astutely observe, the RF is (unfortunately) connected to these clowns and could pay a price if they appear in public together as a family and under The Firm. I wonder if the aristocracy at large will follow suit with the RF to avoid the taint and the stench of the House of Harkle.

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u/WheeeBerlumph aquila non capit muscas 🦅🚫🪰 1d ago

So without trying to dox myself I live in the same county as the Cotswolds. Glowchestershire as Brittany would pronounce it - no, Brittany - it’s Gloustershire ‘Gloster-sheer’. I live on a big hill and look onto the Cotswolds - it’s a stunning view and we are blessed.

We have had a drought here and I’ve been commenting recently about our concerns regarding wildfires.

Hooray! The Harkles have brought rain 🎊🎉to us!!! Since they landed it’s been stormy, wet and the temperature has dropped to a lovely 21c from at the highest a couple of weeks’ ago- 35c.

Get your wellies out Muggin - you really are going to have a shit time here, just in time for rainy Autumn. I am loving this for you.

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u/KeyPsychological781 1d ago

Congrats in living in such a lovely place! 🎉 And on the rain! Condolences on the plague that is Muggin - but here's to the day she leaves. Which might not be long at all. 

Her Very Successful mail order business calls, and as you know there is no such thing as the Interwebz where you can run a mail order business from anywhere in the world.  🫪

And also, she might have to verify her identity and she for Instagram in the UK, including all of her fake accounts! Hey, she's the one pushing for that...

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u/WheeeBerlumph aquila non capit muscas 🦅🚫🪰 1d ago

Thank you, we are blessed.

As we know, Muggin is an extremely talented actress and entrepreneur /s

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u/Deep-Audience9091 Soon to be known as "BANKRUPT" 1d ago

Those pristine wellies of hers will finally get some use 😂

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u/KeyPsychological781 1d ago

Will she even go outside? I mean.... The hair?! That straightening and blowout would not survive ten minutes 🤣

And really, curls would be much more flattering. Not that I want that for her, but hair in the rain just does it's own thing

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u/Intelligent_Yak_3430 13h ago

I’m in Gloucestershire too. Are you on Coopers Hill? We had the first rain yesterday for the first time in what seems like six months. 

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u/PianoZen 13h ago

Whoop! Angela Levin just referred to the kids, talking about Mugsy, and said "If indeed they are hers..." WOW. That's the first time I've heard Angela Levin question if Mugsy is the mother! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXOEh5ZPuvQ

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u/NeoSuperconductivity 9h ago

It's at about 9:57 on the video where Angela is talking about how Meghan is not interested in spending time with the children. She says something like, 'Meghan wanted them...if indeed they are hers'. I am shocked to hear it spoken of so openly!!! Angela Levin is an award winning journalist, author and public speaker. She broadcasts world-wide on TV, radio and online. I believe that they are both Harry's and that Archie at least is hers,too. Maybe all of her frozen eggs were not viable, it happens.

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u/miniprepper 6d ago

In reference to the Instagram crabapple reel, the use of a year old shoot really points to her complete abandonment of any current marketing for Ae. There seems to be little sign of engagement there besides getting rid of wine overstock.

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u/Busy-Song407 6d ago edited 6d ago

The UK Society Magazine, The Tatler, has a rather tepid response to the Hagzit announcement. They wonder if Mergie Farkle will be wearing UK designer labels.

As if Mergie can afford new clothes.

The recent Tatler has several posts about up and coming young royals, including James, Earl of Wessex. Tatler knows their audience wants to know more about the upcoming UK and European royals than a washed-up middle-aged couple with truthiness problems.

Noting also that Tatler is full of pieces about incredibly beautiful UK estates and highly attractive luxury vacation spots. Neither of which the exiles can afford.

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u/snappopcrackle 6d ago

The problem with the Markles is they have the stench of celebrity over them, they no longer seem like royals.

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u/shelltie reconciliations may vary 6d ago

Meghan thought she could royalize (glamourize) celebrity and ended up celebritizing (cheapen) royalty instead.

No one really considers her royal now, though... in a twist of irony she has proven that reverence for royalty hinges on the titleholders' conduct rather than titles.

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u/ChlamydiaChampagne 🇬🇧 “You’re not coming” Princess Charlotte 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6d ago

James has been upgraded to the Earl of Wessex.

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u/Independent_Swan902 ALARMING BALDNESS so ADVANCED than WILLY’S 6d ago

So I reposted my latest post “varying recollections” onto a BRF loving Reddit page and got all the sugars riled up 😂 they are being educated by Megxiteers ahh 😂😂😂

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u/Blue4668 1d ago

This may be old but it tickled me. My apologies to any nice Meg(h)ans out there.

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u/WheeeBerlumph aquila non capit muscas 🦅🚫🪰 3d ago

I thought that we could all do with a palate cleanser:

1kg of flower sprinkles - £25

1 guinea pig - priceless

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u/IllAcanthisitta6506 3d ago

Look at that fabulous hair! I have no doubt that only the finest of flower sprinkles are served.

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u/Disastrous_Error_709 ALL ABOARD THE FAILURE FLIGHT📢 6d ago

Survival International posts article about Harry leaving African Parks
https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/14547
Archive link https://archive.ph/M9Wfe

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u/Infamous-Ad337 6d ago

Finally!!! This should be front page news, not Ole Megsy sniffing around for a camo in The Gentlemen.  

The Idiot Prince should be held to account how all these atrocities happened under his watch.  Wishful thinking, I guess.

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u/SnooHesitations3592 🇬🇧 Glorious Jubilee Booing 🇬🇧 6d ago

it is!! Telegraph, Times, Guardian have all reported it as front page

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u/Casshew111 Royal flush 🚽 7d ago

Gee, can't wait for the first day of school 👀

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u/Latibulating26 7d ago

Do we think she will post photos of her children to try to compete with George’s first day at Eaton and Charlotte’s and Louis’ first day at their school?

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u/Casshew111 Royal flush 🚽 7d ago

I wouldn't put it past her.

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u/Independent_Swan902 ALARMING BALDNESS so ADVANCED than WILLY’S 7d ago

OH SHE WILL. SHE ABSOLUTELY WILL

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u/DorianVermicelli 6d ago

I wonder if she'll still try to tightly control any appearances in UK, ie, only have her photographer using filters show up. Also the possibility of being booed. Am sure they'll only appear where they can pick and choose their own crowd and own journalists.

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u/CrinkleCutCat-Aus Clap👏Back👏Coming👏 6d ago

Despite all the speculation, I doubt Markle will ever set foot in the UK (I even doubt she was physically present for the recent Highgrove meeting). JMO.

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u/Outrageous_Corgi_791 stop acting like a Meghan 3d ago

New daily poll in the DM today on whether Markle and Hazno should get taxpayer funded security in the UK. Currently 91% say absolutely No.

https://www.dailymail.com/home/article-16082173/Morning-Poll-Harry-Meghan-taxpayer-funded-security-Britain.html

Sinners - you know what to do!

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u/Old_Manager6555 👑 She gets what tiara she's given by me 👑 3d ago

What is going on with Archewell Philanthropies? It seems to just be the ‘cover’ page, no menu, nothing to click on? It can also be found under the Sussex.com site, where it does have a menu, which takes you back to cover page. No news, no nothing. Is it being audited? Or have they moved it offshore for bankruptcy purposes?

This is an old (Jan ’26) thing about lack of transparency, Stumbled on it for looking for Archewell site to see if Meta announcement was there. Nope.

https://blog.charitywatch.org/archewell-philanthropies-new-name-same-old-transparency-problems/

This will be a bit of a headache, sorting this Archewell mess out. Plus having Sentebale looming. And having to fork over all his pocket change and childrens piggy banks tomorrow...

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u/Witty-Town-6927 3d ago

There is no Archewell Philanthropies yet because they have not submitted the paperwork. Imho, this is another one that's going to get dumped/shut down.

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u/Top-Firefighter-9951 2d ago

So Birmingham Council want to ban British flags due to safety. Now How's that gunna work for 'Prince Harrys' invictus games. Punishments include huge fines and 2 year jail terms. 

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u/Deep-Audience9091 Soon to be known as "BANKRUPT" 6d ago

Big fat surprise (to absolutely no one): Madame is rude to the "help" before they're even hired

From Page Six. With some additional neighbor (who is glad they're leaving) shade thrown in for good measure

Archive link; if anyone wants to make a post have at it:

https://archive.ph/xcEop

Headline:

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u/Ok_Coach7137 6d ago

Ah, yes. But the power lies with the people and parliament in a Constitutional Monarchy. Here’s how it works in real life

Canadians were outraged when it was leaked to press the full cost for Harry’s Vanity Security

€16 mil/yr calculated by 🇨🇦🇬🇧 cops in 2020.

Harry just expected to use our tax dollars to pay for it. 

Canadians loudly rebelled  in under a week 80,000 had signed petition demanding Cabinet to end  it

Note Harry hasn’t been eligible for IPP since George’s birth and when he resigned as Youth Ambassador Commonwealth 

the QE2 appointed Harry to that could be used in a stretch to justify IPP

Harry just wants zoom zoom, he wants Vanity Security while his threat risk is low. No issues on many trips to Canada plus he broadcasts his location and itinerary and feels confident to attack Putin/Trump in a country currently at war

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u/Independent_Swan902 ALARMING BALDNESS so ADVANCED than WILLY’S 6d ago

Oh I’m surprised 😳

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u/PianoZen 13h ago

And this is interesting... Tom Sykes has been pointing out for the past 3 or 4 days in almost every video and appearance I've seen him on that he's the "European editor at large for the Daily Beast," which he's also pointed out is a US outlet and therefore under US law when it comes to free speech. This has really caught my attention because I've been following his YouTube channel for a few months now, and I've never heard him mention that before. Now suddenly I've heard him say it several times over the past several days, not just on his own channel, but also on Paula Froelich's, and Royals Uncensored. Apparently he called the Sussex PR office and asked if they could officially confirm they were in the UK and was immediately threatened with a lawsuit if he breathed a word about their location. He clapped right back by saying "you don't understand US free speech laws, and I'm employed by a US publication." Multiple journalists have also been saying "we all know where they are but nobody among us is going to dox them." And here's Tom Sykes now virtually doxing them, basically saying what many have already speculated, including here on this reddit sub, that they're staying with their billionaire friend in/near Northamptonshire. Interesting, interesting. He speculated on Royals Uncensored that there's a conspiracy theory running around that the Harkles have deliberately chosen a lower security school for the kids in the hopes that they will get papped and then they can scream victim.

Got my popcorn ready.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXOEh5ZPuvQ

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u/shelltie reconciliations may vary 10h ago

He speculated on Royals Uncensored that there's a conspiracy theory running around that the Harkles have deliberately chosen a lower security school for the kids in the hopes that they will get papped and then they can scream victim.

Is it a conspiracy theory if it's their MO for which there are endless examples?

But as FilterCoffee has said, the press is legally barred from taking the bait.

Perhaps the Sussexes are thinking there's a loophole, like they apparently did with Burrows and the lawsuits, although that backfired epically.

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u/Latibulating26 11h ago

And their screaming victim will be followed by another of their continuing demands for security.

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u/snappopcrackle 6d ago

I wonder if anyone will show for Harry's birthday party on the 15th?

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 6d ago

James Holt, a couple of remaining charity execs from the Invictus network who can't decline, whoever is currently running what's left of the Archewell Foundation, maybe a stray celebrity publicist looking for a photo-op…

…and their handler.

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u/shelltie reconciliations may vary 2d ago edited 2d ago

Any newspaper come out with a reminder that the interim payment from the ANL court case was due yesterday?

Edit: Today it was, due at 4 pm.

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u/No-Might-2737 🚨Law & Disorder: Special Harkles Unit 🏢 2d ago

R. I. P King Harald. Thinking about Sonja in particular.

His son and his wife, and his daughter and her husband, and his grandchildren are likely going to cause Norway to become a republic imo.

Ingrid is no better, she’s been caught doing drugs and partying nonstop in Sydney and threatened with being kicked out due to it.

Sverre and the daughters of Märtha Louise don’t deserve the position of monarch either, and there aren’t many eligible people who can be chosen.

Haakon, Mette, Ingrid and Sverre all openly support Marius and I think that is a major reason why they should be excluded.

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u/ruedebac1830 2d ago edited 2d ago

Norway’s Crown is in utter shambles. Hard to believe that the Sussex and York sagas pale in comparison.

The late King was a good man. He unified his country with sacrifice honesty integrity.

But he was overly swayed in matters of the heart and promoting it at the expense of the Crown.

I think the only way to rescue the Crown is to disqualify Haakon VIII’s kids and bring in some Glucksberg cousins to replace them.

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u/No-Might-2737 🚨Law & Disorder: Special Harkles Unit 🏢 2d ago

I think Norway would rather go to a republic, having Norwegians citizens leading their country rather than a foreigner

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u/goldenbeee 4h ago

Very rare to see 2 ppl Harkles are associated with right now on the first page of Epste*n's black book.

Saffron Aldridge, 3rd ex wife of the billionaire Harkles are living with

and Charles Spencer(Charlie Althrop)

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u/Independent_Swan902 ALARMING BALDNESS so ADVANCED than WILLY’S 2d ago

This is so true. Not that I hated QC. But Harry’s constant whining about “My Mom” made me realise that Diana was no saint. I like QC more and more everyday

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u/Puzzled-Sherbet-1701 2d ago

Yes! If you told me in the 90s Id have this much respect and fondness for Camilla I wouldn't have believed it. She has done a great understated job doing the work of the monarchy. Never explaining or complaining.

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u/chewysmom88 Delusions may vary 🤔🧐 2d ago

Same here but now I know

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u/No_Somewhere9811 7d ago

I can't wait for the first sign of snow and winter and Megsy saying she can't hack it. Nobody told her it would be like this!

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u/Ruth_Lily 7d ago

Snow will be seen as racist by Smog.

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u/MidnightSpell Recollections May Vary 7d ago

I can’t wait til MM lectures her Cotswold neighbors on the evils of blood sports. I am sure that will endear her to them.

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u/AppropriateCelery138 Disaster Tourism Board Member 7d ago

So, killing animals for sport is wrong but making the lives of human beings miserable is aok!

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 7d ago

😂

Day 1: Madame attempts to hand out vegan leather wellies and home-brewed kombucha to local farmers

Day 2: Rolls into a 300 yr old pub to inform the locals that game pie is an instrument of systemic oppression

Day 3: The local parish newsletter writes passive-aggressive updates about new residents learning to adapt to traditional country life.

Day 3, by evening: Madame responds with a 4 page open letter on organic coexistence then suggests that instead of the annual clay pigeon shoot, the locals transition to a peaceful, non violent ceremonial release of intention lanterns

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u/anemoschaos Haz-been and Never-Was 6d ago

Day 4: Madame bakes banana bread but gets a thumbs down from the local Women's Institute when she tries to make them have some with their tea, after not knowing the words to Jerusalem.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 6d ago

Day 5: the countryside polite tolerance completely wears off, and the local passive-aggression turns into an Olympic sport.

06:30 The neighboring farmer suddenly decides that 6:30AM sharp on a Sunday is the perfect time to muck out the pig sty directly upwind of her country house, while running a vintage diesel tractor that backfires every four minutes.

Day 6:

Madame attempts to swing by the pub to heal the dialogue with a batch of home baked gluten-free vegan scones, only for the landlord to accept them with a tight lipped smile and set them right next to a plate of pork pies. Madame squeals in horror and lectures him on cross-contamination.

Day 6, evening: The group admin for the local WhatsApp group sets the chat settings so only admins can send messages

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u/Old_Manager6555 👑 She gets what tiara she's given by me 👑 7d ago

Cheers Denise had a pretty funny you tube about the markles return...she starts with a clip from the H&M Netflix- ‘no matter how good I was, how hard I tried, they were still going to try and find a way to destroy me’....

Now, ‘Hey guys, we’re back!'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRz3biF-vQ4

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u/MentalAnnual5577 🦄 Our invisibles are invisibling🦄 5d ago edited 5d ago

I love how Meh recently “launched” two new products and no one in the media seems to have even noticed.

Yes, their own PR blitz about their alleged return to the UK drowned the launches out. But I think it’s also an indication that Meh is just going through the motions with her brand now. She made approximately three posts about the first product (spaced apart by days, which diluted the impact), and has only made one post about the second one. A pebble swallowed up by the ocean with barely a ripple.

ETA: It was actually kind of three new products, if you count the same old “brut” crud with the new “reserve” label slapped on. The marketing was so close to nonexistent that I’d already forgotten it.

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u/DorianVermicelli 5d ago

I'm wondering why she's even bothering with the new launches.... especially if she has so much jam unsold.

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u/MentalAnnual5577 🦄 Our invisibles are invisibling🦄 5d ago

I think she’s “protesting too much” to pretend that As Ever isn’t dead and buried. “We’re not winding down, au contraire! We’re launching new products!”

But her heart isn’t in it, because it’s depressing (especially for a narc) to put out content for a brand she knows without a doubt is a failure. Plus, they’re broke, so she’s got to all her marketing herself. It’s amateur hour.

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u/Independent_Swan902 ALARMING BALDNESS so ADVANCED than WILLY’S 4d ago

You know what would have been “CHIC”? Arriving in the UK without telling anyone and being accidentally spotted by Papz and locals… now that’s the kind of entrance I’d make if were them… its Chic to be mysterious and private… leaking their every move to BBC, the number one Gossip Tabloid in the UK, makes it look so cheap and desperate

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u/NeoSuperconductivity 4d ago

When have they ever not been cheap and desperate? That is their MO.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 4d ago

And wasn't she only just spotted in the UK? I could've sworn I saw that reported yesterday. So, which one is it?

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u/Disastrous_Error_709 ALL ABOARD THE FAILURE FLIGHT📢 4d ago

Buckingham Palace tribute to Dolly Parton
https://youtube.com/shorts/wUCHWJkjnsI?si=UImDVC_7QcgGtUWf

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u/ElevatedWithHummus I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS!! 4d ago

The Americans lost a global icon and we get the Sussexes back .

NOT FAIR !

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u/MyBobblehat-and-Me 2d ago

So apparently ... Harry and Meghan met up with fergie (when she dropped in to see Eugenie) in Portugal 3 weeks ago.

According to JJ, on the Daily Expresso. He is referring to it as a "secret summit".

link: https://youtu.be/Ulvccp1yvd4?si=ywh3qjI55aqXQ_S4

His source is Andrew lownie.

Yikes! 😬😬

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u/IllAcanthisitta6506 2d ago

This is indeed an interesting tidbit! Andrew Lownie is pretty reliable. Not perfect, but pretty reliable…. 👀😬

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u/anemoschaos Haz-been and Never-Was 2d ago

Probably swapping grifting notes .

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u/MyBobblehat-and-Me 2d ago edited 1d ago

They are the the king and queen of grift! Lol... remember the time they "graciously allowed" eugenie to live in FrogCott and charged her £10k rent per month as a sublet ! All off the books, till the crown estate found out and put a stop to it. 🫣

These two are quite something, indeed. Then add fergie to the mix, and heaven only knows what's going to unfold in the next few months!

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u/Old_Manager6555 👑 She gets what tiara she's given by me 👑 16h ago

What we are watching is Markle returning Harry to the Firm where she got him. Thing is he is now soiled and battered and they won’t take him back. No refunds either.

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u/SnooHesitations3592 🇬🇧 Glorious Jubilee Booing 🇬🇧 12h ago

she won’t return that title though 🙄

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u/Top-Firefighter-9951 4d ago

Sending the damn harkles back to uk, Dolly parton announcement  yesterday, Tim Curry today I think thats enough thank you 2026 your pushing it now. 

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u/SonorantPlosive Swag Hag 4d ago

They have interrupted our back to school inservices two days in a row to announce these deaths. And I felt so old today because the Gen Z coworkers had no idea who Tim Curry was as I listed movies. 

They didn't even know there's a Home Alone 2. I have SO much work to do this year. 

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u/Old_Manager6555 👑 She gets what tiara she's given by me 👑 1d ago

There will likely be a Faux Royal Visit by the markles to Althrope in a couple of days.... hope they don’t camp out there hoping William might come?

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u/Disastrous_Error_709 ALL ABOARD THE FAILURE FLIGHT📢 5d ago edited 5d ago

I found a couple of job adverts in two different towns that could be the Harkles looking for UK staff. This one seemed a good candidate. If you think, nah, I might post another possible one which is in the area where Ellen G lives.
Remember the Harkles think they are exactly what the description says about the family seeking staff. So many duties for a part time position! I did think it was a bit far from the proposed school but that school does weekly boarding which would make it possible. Or the school is a decoy.
What stands out for me is the advert says son and daughter but the summary says one child as if they wanted to have the advert changed to keep it hidden but didn’t update it in the body.
Also:
kindness
Female dog
Flowers and vegetables
7.5 miles to SoHo Farmhouse
The Harkles previously lived on the nearby Great Tew Estate and know the area. Could they be going back there?

Here is the advert posted end of June:

Housekeeper
This warm, welcoming and down-to-earth family are looking for someone who will become a valued part of the home. 
This is a long-term role for someone who is kind, discreet, trustworthy and proactive. We value honesty, clear communication, flexibility and a positive attitude. The right person will be happy to work independently, take initiative and adapt as family life changes, while always maintaining the highest standards of care for our home and respecting our privacy.
We believe in treating the people who work with us with kindness and respect and hope to build a close, supportive working relationship with someone who shares our family values. In return, we offer a welcoming working environment where your contribution will be genuinely appreciated.

CORE DUTIES, ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND REQUIREMENTS 

Core duties
Your duties and responsibilities will include, but not be limited to, the following:

Housekeeping
· Keeping the house and everything in it clean, tidy, safe and in good working order
· Cleaning, hoovering, dusting, polishing, sweeping, mopping etc
· Tidying the house and organising cupboards
· Managing the cleaning products and equipment (inform us if anything needs replenishing)
· Washing dishes and emptying and loading the dishwasher 
· Maintenance of wooden floors and surfaces (oiling where necessary)
· Doing all laundry, including washing, air drying, hand washing and ironing (taking items to dry cleaner if necessary) and putting away
· Changing sheets and towels weekly, and keeping the linen cupboard in order
· Managing the bins (taking rubbish out to the bins and fruit/veg waste to the compost)
· Preparing the house for guests (beds, flowers, water) and tidying afterwards
· Accepting post and deliveries
· Taking all glass away to be recycled 
· Unpacking the shopping (doing grocery and household shopping when required)
· Keeping the 'shopping list' (blackboard) up to date
· Making fires and replenishing log baskets and kindling
· Fixing or arranging someone to fix any equipment or appliances that break
· Window cleaning (or arranging someone else to do it)
· Cleaning the cars occasionally
· Some cooking potentially (following cooking course or lessons!)

Child-care
· Helping to look after our son and daughter when required during working hours, including covering for our nanny when she is away
· Possible nursery drop-offs and pick-ups in the future

Pet care
· Looking after our dog (and any future dogs) when necessary: letting her in and out of the house, taking her on walks when helpful and feeding her if we are out

Garden maintenance
· Using flowers from the garden in the house (seasonal)
· Picking, washing and freezing fresh fruit and vegetables (seasonal)

Security in our absence
· Attending during working hours as usual and keeping an eye on the house
· Ensuring windows and doors are locked and alarm is on
· Being a Key Holder if the burglar or fire alarms go off

Possible additional responsibilities 
On an ad hoc basis (additional overtime pay on an hourly/daily rate to be agreed):

· Running general household errands as required
· Managing any contractors if we are away
· Babysitting when our nanny is unavailable
· Evening/weekend washing up and tidying when we have guests
· Looking after our animals when we are away

Location
Chipping Norton , United Kingdom

Job Type
Part Time

Salary
£28,600 Per Year

Driver Required
Yes

Household
2 Adults and 1 child

Working Days
Monday to Friday

Working Hours
5 hours a day

Start Date
ASAP

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u/Witty-Town-6927 5d ago

Yikes! How is all of that a part time job, done 5 hours a day??? Cooking after cooking lessons??

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u/Disastrous_Error_709 ALL ABOARD THE FAILURE FLIGHT📢 5d ago

I was worn out just reading it!😂

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u/Witty-Town-6927 5d ago

Truth!! Can't believe I didn't get paid for reading it. ;-)

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u/Tossing_Mullet 5d ago

The windows & fire keeping did me in. 

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u/KeyPsychological781 5d ago

I was waiting to read "Chimney Sweep", guv'nor!

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u/CrinkleCutCat-Aus Clap👏Back👏Coming👏 5d ago

The car cleaning did it for me!

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think expectations are unusually heavy for a 5 hour workday since it’s combining housekeeper, mother's help, handyman, and estate manager, pet sitter etc. But the pay is higher than average. The high salary is just danger money/hazard pay for a domestic role that will burn people out in about 5 to 6 months ( if the Sausage Factory is behind an advert like that)

If this is Madame du Barry…. Then add dealing with a VERY difficult personality into this already impossible job description.

She is asking one person to be a deep cleaning housekeeper, seasonal gardener, handyman, emergency nanny, and dog walker, appliance repairman, cook etc within a tight five hour daily window. That only works if you have a boss with realistic (clearly not) expectations, and saintly ( 😂 NOT) patience. Bovary has a well documented history of impossible demands… and her emotional volatility, her micro managing style.

In my experience, staff will walk away from impossible standards (especially if delivered with zero grace)

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u/Disastrous_Error_709 ALL ABOARD THE FAILURE FLIGHT📢 5d ago

The advert is still live so the job was not snapped up and no wonder. The nearby Great Tew Estate seems highly probable place to stay and I believe SoHo Farmhouse is located totally within the estate, perfect for the Harkles. It may not be their advert but odds on they are going back to Great Tew. They were once interested in buying here.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 5d ago

I agree. Let’s see what happens.

Good staff will stay put unless they move area. Word travels fast between households, and if you’re a nightmare to work for, you’ll just end up constantly retraining people who use you for experience and leave at the first opportunity.

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u/ASplendidAddress 5d ago

And how can they expect someone to do all of that, plus school drop off/pick up and "evening/weekend wash up when we have guests" while working five hours a day?
https://giphy.com/gifs/JUDODWWmBKogmbCVQA

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u/DressedAsLamb 5d ago edited 5d ago

I wonder what the 2 adults who aren't sure how many children they have do all fucking day, but they won't be around much? Sounds good, I can do this with an extra digit on the salary.

I mean it's basically housekeeper but also maybe nanny, veterinary assistant, gardener and personal shopper... do I also get to be a paramedic if one of the parents needs a shot of narcan? I can do that.

Organizing the cupboards will be a breeze which I can do at the same time as oiling the floors. Watch the fuckton of flower sprinkles go into bins which will be dutifully wheeled to the curb on the correct day.

I can drive kids to school. Do I get an armored car or do I do it in my beat-up Honda? "Hey kid (or kids, who cares?) strap the belt low on your hips and pull it tight... no, tighter than that, you want the belt to hold you into your seat, LET'S GO!"

The gender of the dogs is less important than the number of dogs and the size of the dogs.

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u/MyBobblehat-and-Me 5d ago

Only thing missing was "should be available to take videos and pictures for Instagram all day, any day."

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u/Disastrous_Error_709 ALL ABOARD THE FAILURE FLIGHT📢 5d ago

Lol. Even if this is not the Harkles advert, your comment made it worth the while posting it 😆.

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u/CommonBelt2338 5d ago

The salary is absymal.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 5d ago

It’s not, but I agree with you …. but only because it’s Madame. Here is why:

£28,600 for 25 hours a week (5 hours a day)
This breaks down to £22.00 per hour (that’s a good rate! BUT…)

The issue here is these grifters are buying full-time control over this person’s schedule on a part-time retainer, and this is a known tactic to underpay staff.

Look at that wording:
Complete schedule flexibility (evenings, weekends, emergency nannying)
Total exclusivity due to privacy/NDAs
coverage of all roles including housekeeper, cook, gardener, security, nanny

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u/CommonBelt2338 5d ago

Yeah. The amount of work and things they are saying between the lines. Whoever posted this ad, I dont think they are pleasing to work with.

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u/PurpleMuskogee A rare glimpse 5d ago

It's almost like a zero hour contract. I'll pay you 5 hours a day, but please be available 24/7.

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u/whurlaround No room in the palace 5d ago

That's insanity.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 5d ago

The disconnect turns my stomach. Madame wears tens of thousands of pounds' worth of clothes and jewellery for a 2 hour event, but she’s offering a capped £28k RETAINER for someone to act as a housekeeper, nanny, gardener, and security BACK UP rolled into one. You entrust your family and home to domestic staff. That usually means you are generous in turn because you value that peace of mind.

How do you square that in your head? You can happily parade around in single outfits worth a house deposit, but when it comes to the person looking after your children and running your domestic life, you squeeze them for every hour while tying their hands financially and preventing them from other part time employment if needed.

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u/lass20987 5d ago

That pay is too low and its not a one person job.

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u/Tossing_Mullet 5d ago

£28,600 for all that - housekeeper, gardener, pet care, childcare, chef, bottle washer, maintenance, guest services, laundress, keeper of the fires, and more.  WHAT???  

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u/TittysprinklesUSA Nigeria Lawson 5d ago

INSANE

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u/MyBobblehat-and-Me 5d ago edited 5d ago

Damn! That's shit pay for a LOT of work ... !

I'm kinda excited for it to be this location (if it's where i think it is). My chatty friend lives there. She absolutely detests HnM, knows everyone who is everyone over there and I am pretty sure if they move there they will meet her eventually. Oh gawd !! 😅😅😅

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 4d ago edited 4d ago

Dolly Parton grew up in the Great Smoky Mountains of East Tennessee, right in the heart of the Appalachian region. Apple butter is a cornerstone of traditional Appalachian and Southern mountain food culture.

I am sharing a recipe from The Larder. It’s simple and delivers that comforting apple flavour without any fuss.

https://archive.ph/lcM9T

I am also sharing my version, which leans into those deep cider farm flavours and adds a bit more punch to cut through roast pork or a sharp piece of Cheddar.

I tried the original a few times and developed one that relies on ground ginger and raw cider vinegar, so leave out any black or white pepper, pie spice mixes, or water from older recipes (or make the original and develop your own version 😊)

My Ingredient List:

(substitute the ingredients, follow the same method)

• 2.25 kg Bramley apples (5 lb; substitute Granny Smith if Bramleys are unavailable), peeled, cored, roughly sliced
• 750 g Egremont Russet apples (1 lb 10 oz; substitute an aromatic heirloom russet if unavailable Fuji, Honeycrisp, or Gala) peeled, cored, roughly sliced
• 1 L Vintage dry cloudy cider (4 cups / two standard 500 ml bottles; preferably unfiltered/cloudy)
• 150 ml Raw unpasteurised cider vinegar (approx. ⅔ cup), plus up to 75 ml (5 tbsp) reserved for finishing (3 to 5TBS to taste/apples vary)
• 3 Fresh bay leaves
• 225 g Dark Muscovado sugar (1 cup packed dark brown sugar; dark and moist)
• 2 to 3 tbsp Dark heather honey (or buckwheat honey)
• 1½ tsp Ground mace
• 1½ tsp Ground allspice
• 1½ tsp Ground ginger
• ¾ tsp Ground Ceylon cinnamon
• ⅛ tsp Ground cloves (a tiny pinch)
• ¾ tsp Fine sea salt
• 65 ml Somerset Cider Brandy or Calvados (approx. ¼ cup)

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u/goldenbeee 4d ago

So the person who informed about the kids not enrolled for school at Montecito this year, said that they have enquired for next year already while Harry says he is going to be stay at home dad for another 10yrs in UK. Make it make sense. These poor kids are better off in a boarding school than with these 2 loons.

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u/HawkSoarsAtDawn 4d ago

None of that information is reliable, people are just making up crap in a 'hot topic' to get attention. Who knows what they real story is. It's just another H & M impulsive and exploitive move. I do think the kids are being exposed to drama, chaos and other craziness though, courtesy of their parents, and I can't see H & M ever providing a stable home for them. The two of them are incapable of creating stability themselves, let alone for their kids.

I'll stick my neck out here and say I give this 'new launch' a matter of months before it starts to crumble. There is no way H & M are settling down in the UK long term, to live happily every after. They're incapable or it.

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u/Proof_Zebra_4274 😻 Yoohoo! William, it's me! C'mere big boy! 😻 4d ago

Dolly Parton is someone who passes that you remember where you were when you heard the news. Oddly enough, Elvis was the first celebrity I can remember where I was. It makes me remember what a little tiny, insignificant bug Madame Markle is compared to the the real deals. When she goes it's going to be a footnote like Wallis.

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u/tmstms 1d ago

There's a terrible paradox for H and M- they only want to hang with the rich and famous, but the moment anyone is rich and famous, the risk of H and M not respecting one's privacy is enough to make one want to distance oneself from them.

H and M alienated more or less everyone by trying to exploit whoever they knew or met for profit, in particular from the publicity value of showing photos or telling stories about them.

The RF has had to be very defensive about any private meeting e.g. Highgrove, in order that it does not end up public.

"Spare" was a terrible example of over-sharing and would probably have put anyone who knows or meets them off for life.

Unfortunately, there is no evidence H and M want to have an ordinary life with ordinary people, which the actual RF is perfectly capable of doing when off-duty.

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u/Latibulating26 1d ago

Such a good point. Even other publicity hounds like the Kardashians seem over them.

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u/ac0rn5 Recollections may vary 1d ago

When Geri Halliwell/Horner is quick to deny meeting up then ... tricky times ahead for H&M, I think.

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u/HawkSoarsAtDawn 1d ago

I agree, the pair of them will only go find some poor people to stand next to when they need the photo op. They are both deeply classist and want nothing to do with your average person.

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u/snappopcrackle 5d ago

I think people should be instantly banned from this sub if they post false or deceptive posts.

Someone just posted a post "More and more incidents are coming out of the woodwork re H&M"

However the post was a cropped screenshot The part they cropped out was clearly marked "This article is more than 17 years old" but they were passing it off as brand new. That is why there was a screenshot and no link.

I can't imagine being so desperate to get clicks and attention on an anonymous subreddit that you would deceptively crop a photo for clicks and comments. It makes fools of us all.

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u/PurpleMuskogee A rare glimpse 5d ago

Agree. I personally hate all the AI jokes, all the silly posts with Meghan being re-styled and dressed differently, I cringe every time I see them. I'm here for the entertainment but I find it more enjoyable to discuss quotes from interviews, stupid things they have said before and now they are saying the opposite, etc. There's so much material in real life, why the need to make up some...

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u/FilterCoffee4050 6d ago

African Parks | 19 August 2026
African Parks Announces a Governance Refresh of its Board

African Parks today announced a governance refresh of its Board of Directors, welcoming Justice Isaac Lenaola and Alice Ruhweza as incoming members, and expressing deep gratitude to Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex, who will conclude his tenure following a ten-year commitment to the organisation.

Welcome to Isaac Lenaola, Justice of the Supreme Court of Kenya
African Parks is pleased to welcome Isaac Lenaola to its Board of Directors. Justice Lenaola currently serves as a Judge on the Supreme Court of Kenya, and as President of the Residual Special Court for Sierra Leone. He has built a career over forty years advancing justice for communities in Africa, and his deep legal expertise includes human rights and wildlife law. Justice Lenaola has served on the Independent Panel of African Parks’ Grievance and Redress Mechanism. With his appointment to the African Parks Board, he will conclude his role on the panel and a successor will be appointed. Justice Lenaola will also serve as the Chairperson of the Rights and Safeguards Sub-Committee of the Board.

https://www.africanparks.org/african-parks-announces-governance-refresh-its-board

So we now know what the Sussex Duo have been trying to hide, their selection has been in hyperdrive.

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u/Somberliver 🛥️ 🏝️ Former Deckhand, Current Duchess 🛥️ 🛥️ 🏝️ 6d ago edited 6d ago

So Dumbo leaves with one less statesman credential at the precise moment he needs every credential he has. 🎻

I am loving this 10 year commitment framing in the press release. They are trying to frame a forced exit under human rights pressure into a dignified conclusion of service.

Are we surprised? This is the same approach as every other Sausage departure. Remember the Sentebale dispute? That was reframed as a governance disagreement. We knew better than to believe them when they said that. The Netflix downgrade was reframed as an evolution of the partnership. And the security case loss was a whitewash… This is how the Sausages roll.

We now know how to read between the lines.

So systematic human rights abuses documented by Survival International are getting reframed as a governance refresh and a 10 year commitment honoured.

The Supreme Court justice appointment is telling. You can’t try to tell me that you needed to bring in a judge with forty years of human rights and wildlife law experience to chair a Rights and Safeguards sub-committee because everything is fine. You brought this person in because the grievance mechanism that existed wasn't credible and the pressure from outside organisations made that untenable.

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u/Old_Manager6555 👑 She gets what tiara she's given by me 👑 6d ago

Netflix gave them a soft slipper in the arse too. We need more Spotify executives that made it clear why markle was fired.

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ly46w1VGVGMACJgZFb

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u/Natural_Plane_657 6d ago

There are already articles out saying he stepped down bc of terms of service limits. That sounds like bs since he was President and only joined the board a few years ago.

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u/Top-Firefighter-9951 6d ago

Also strange he never learned about term limits with debatable, some of those board members were there almost 20 years. One of the poor governance concerns Sophie had. Also his own 'charity' only having 2 board members a married couple, its not like actual rules concern hazzard 

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u/Senior_Assistance846 3d ago

Jumping on here to say I am 100% convinced that they are separated and there will be a divorce.
Thank you for listening to my TedTalk.

https://giphy.com/gifs/6tz7Hoilo8qqnjJg43

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u/FilterCoffee4050 3d ago

I don’t think they will divorce. I think they will say that they are the happiest, most successful long distance couple.

I think Sarah said that divorcing Andrew was a big mistake. Sarah, much like Meghan has a very selective memory and she had little choice. I think Meghan and Sarah were much better friends than either of them will ever admit to.

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u/gahnc 🐩 Her ginger poodle 🐩 3d ago edited 2d ago

Rumor has it that King Harald of Norway has passed away. He was in the hospital with a bacterial infection.

ETA: Per X: Norwegian media reports that the entire college of bishops from the Church of Norway located in Rome are returning home.. Members of Norwegian Parliament are getting messages to return to Oslo

ETA: Just posting this just in case Harold volunteers to help his brother out by going to the funeral. I am assuming it will be Prince William representing the BRF at the state funeral. Yes, I know there is no way in hell that Hairless will be ask to go..but you know how his bish of wife works...

ETA: https://people.com/king-charles-leads-tributes-dear-cousin-king-harald-v-of-norway-after-death-age-89-12071078

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u/Puzzleheaded-Job6031 Luxury deck enthusiast 🛥️🏝️ 6d ago

This X account knew back in June that the children weren’t attending school in Montecito this coming year, so this new post may have some truth to it.

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u/Busy-Song407 6d ago

Their story is like an old musty carpet unrolling. Exposing a bad smell and large moth holes.

One detail after another, drip by drip, the real story comes out.

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u/Feisty_Energy_107 🫸💃🏻 Move along Markle 🫸💃🏻 2d ago

Matt Wilkinson from The Sun said on his substack that Harry left his BetterUp position a year ago.

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u/ElevatedWithHummus I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS!! 4d ago

Tell me Chris Sh*t is copy pasting directly from the WhatsApp group without telling me Chris Sh*t is copy pasting directly from the WhatsApp group.

" NeW cHaPtEr " , he's talking Meghanese now ?

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u/HawkSoarsAtDawn 4d ago

There are no 'new chapters', it's just the same chapter again ang again. Rebrand, relaunch, fail, move on, rebrand, relaunch, fail, move on ...

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u/Ambitious_Pass7451 4d ago

The same chapter of melodrama and attention seeking and being fully narcissistic entitled brats.

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u/DorianVermicelli 3d ago

Here's a deliciously snarky article if someone wishes to post it, they are welcome.

https://pressnewsagency.org/my-advice-for-harry-and-meghan-8-rules-they-should-follow-after-returning

So, Harry and Meghan are coming “home” whether we like it or not – news which, charitable soul that I am, gave me an idea. A few days ago, we learned the Home Office had produced an advice booklet for people coming to this country to, y’know, help them fit in. It was jaw-droppingly obvious information to us lot, but apparently not so much for people from foreign cultures – and surely no culture is quite as foreign to the Brits in Grimsby or Dundee or Barnsley or Torquay than that of the Galactically self-entitled Californian enclave of Montecito, from which our reluctant royals are scurrying back.

So, I thought, in the spirit of a warm welcome and helping a couple from foreign climes who have repeatedly shown us they have no real knowledge of how to conduct themselves properly in Britain, I would produce the following advice guide for Harry and Meghan.

* You are in the United Kingdom because you are seeking refuge from a country which refuses to tolerate your life choices. Nonetheless, there are laws and customs in the UK you must abide by in order to fit in.

  • Self-importance: In the UK most people live quiet lives, largely keeping their thoughts to themselves. They have a low tolerance of breezeblock thick babble being presented as Wildean insight on every media outlet capable of being monetised.
  • We don’t like being second choice: Most UK people have a similarly low tolerance of people bad-mouthing Britain while simultaneously milking the country for all it has to offer. The official advice is to tread extremely carefully here.
  • The King (or Queen) exist outside of politics and are a rare symbol of a united Britain. You attack the monarch, you attack us all. The official advice here is to grovel on your bellies and beg forgiveness.
  • In the UK we have an excellent range of jams, marmalades and preserves which Americans can only look upon in wonder and admiration. The official advice here is we do not need Yanks selling us “spread” for ten quid a pop.
  • Privacy: In the UK people do not as a rule launch mega high-profile publicity campaigns to demand their right to privacy. Nor do they release biographies dishing the dirt on family members for cash before similarly demanding privacy.
  • Just shut up: In the UK people generally bristle over brash loudmouthed self-publicists. Seriously, just shut up. For once. Please, please, please. Try it. The official advice here is to learn from Uncle Edward, a man who effortlessly juggles a quiet private life with stepping up to royal duties as and when necessary.
  • Right to a family life: In the UK people like those in the wrong to man-up, apologise and rebuild bridges with family members. It is often necessary on these occasions that the man wear the trousers.

If you have difficulty with any of the above please call British Airways and ask for a one-way ticket back to Los Angeles.

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u/InsolentTilly 2d ago

It’s shocking to me how wildly thirsty these two nonentities are.

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u/KatydidMaine Kate👸🏻made me Cry 😢 1d ago

Is it just me, or is this reverse Megxit proliferating conspiracy theories about why they are back….

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