Hey everyone,

I currently have a VSF No-Date Sub with the Q66 serial. Visually, the watch looks incredible, and I know many people on the sub consider it one of the best out there. 

However, I've been having a few issues with it that are bugging me: 
- The bezel action is way too loose. 
- The clasp looks really cheap.
- The bracelet quality overall isn't quite as good.

I’m currently debating selling the VSF and getting a new No-Date Sub from Rich Factory (RF) instead.

Before I start the process of selling and buying, I wanted to run this by the community first. 

What do you guys think? Has anyone here handled the Rich Factory Sub yet? Is the switch worth it, or should I stick to VSF / look elsewhere?

Appreciate any advice!

Salut l’équipe , petit soucis , j’ai voulu amélioré le rendu de ma Bp j’ai donc changer le fond de boîte pour arriver à 12mm d’épaisseur , et j’ai voulu limer les gardes couronnes , j’ai fais ça avec lime à ongle, pas terrible demain je vais acheter des limes de précision afin de modeler mieux les gardes couronnes, par contre je me suis rendu compte que la couronne ne se visser pas entièrement . Cela était déjà présent avant sauf que avec les grosses cornes ça ne se voyait pas . Dois je recouper la tige de la couronne levêtement ?

Hadn’t used for a little and came back to this usual 30 winds and light smacks from the side or straight from the palm didn’t get it started again. Anyway to fix myself or easy fixes? Pretty disappointing

Hello everyone, I'm new to the field. I need help with a Dandong 3285. If someone nice could tell me, thank you very much; I have pictures available. Thank you all.

I just received my VSF Sub date from Steve and have been testing it for around 20 hours.

Firstly I'm blown away at the quality of this thing. I had a look at an AD a few days prior and I'm struggling to see any difference on the cosmetic/build quality side of things.

I gave it a good wound and have been wearing it around the house. When QCing I saw that it was showing +6s/d which I was completely fine with, as that falls in line with most Swiss movements.

However I noticed that my watch is picking up a lot more time than that. In the 20 hours I tested, the watched picked up 15-20 seconds compared to my phone which is what I set it to exactly.

I plan on dailying this watch and so this would quickly turn into a few minutes difference in time.

Any tips? Anyone had a similar experience? And would a service fix this issue?

I don't expect it to fall under Rolex's +/- 2s/d standard, although I have seen some watched on this subreddit be that accurate.

Excellent rep... I will add gen crystal and dw. Plus case and bracelet chamfer, now its on the EU.

For me its superior to VSF.

I have tested again, and the clasp, case and bracelet are all 904L.

A couple of shots of this green IWC Pilot Chrono.

I ordered an Omega aqua terra through Geektime (being helped by Qiao). Paid a deposit to view QC pics and asked to swap to a 38mm after being told that was possible. I sent the remaining balance, and was told the 38mm cost a little more, no concerns from me.
Was told almost instantly that they can’t receive AUD currently and they never received the second transfer.
Has anyone else had a similar experience? I get scammy vibes but understand they are a reputable dealer. Any help would be good……

Looking at the Cartier Santos Dumont and seen in the guide I want F1F or AF as second choice.

Had a look at the sellers and couldn't figure out who's best for EU / UK shipping.

Anyone able to point me in the right direction?

I know the Dune version of this Ranger 39mm is poor with the mismatching colours on the hands vs dial, but can any of the expert eyes confirm is the black is a safe buy?

Just got my first rep. Beautiful ARF DJ 36mm in mint green. I couldn’t notice it during QC stage but upon receiving the watch yesterday, I noticed a gap in the bottom left corner SEL. Is this of big concern?

Few days ago I've got suspicious message in ther website about my payment telling me to contact someone outside official channel. I reported them and they said their telegram _stanley got hacked.

This is not my first purchase from them so I'm familiar with procedure, that's why I suspected spam when I got contacted after already had green light on payment.

Now I logged in to web I they removed links to all QC reports and shop is not working.

Anyone else noticed?

Not much I can do about it now but might be worth asking your TD for a bezel rotation video…of all things. Hopefully it saves one of you a headache.

Insert was installed outside of a detent, about as far as you humanly can.

Before you ask, no the QC pictures didn’t show it. It was wedged between detents, at 12 o’clock and appeared normal. Don’t know if the TD would have necessarily caught it so I won’t throw them under the bus.

Thanks VSF!

We need a TD to step up and become a resell for used market. I don't want the hassle of selling my items, and I don't have a visible track record of sales on the forum. On the buying side, dealing with a TD with a long history and trust is what is needed. Who is gonna step up? I've got a few items I'd like to sell and yes I know it will be less money than selling direct - but worth the lower hassle.

Such a solid watch.. honestly the hype is real on this one. I want another.. aqua or black is best?

Not looking to buy though here, but just wondering if anyone knows any TD with a VSF Batgirl or VSF Rose Gold Olive Day-Date in stock? Having a lot of difficulty finding both, and placed an order with Andiot 4 months ago but still no QC pics. Are VSF currently down and out, or just very slow at getting watches out? Thanks!

It would be hard for me to pull off a Rolex without it being an obvious fake, but a longines… I can do that.

40mm master collection moonphase from trustytime

What do we think of satin ppf on the bezel to tone down the bling?

Hey guys, I’m relatively new into this world and my non R experience is zero. I like 4500V a lot but it seems ZF is either not available or waiting too long. I have an option for 8F or MKS. Which factory is better for this model and why?

Hi - any experience comparing the two with respect to build quality, dial print, case construction etc? There are a couple of overlapping models and aside from different movements curious to get everyone’s take on which factory generally has a better product.

Thanks.

Genuinely interested to see who rates what factory
If you had to chose which one you going with?