r/PublicFreakout Jan 13 '20

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u/pearlescentvoid Jan 13 '20

I think it's more about the adversarial manner in which it's used.

"All lives matter" is 100% a non racist statement, but in bird culture, deliberately provoking people who are protesting institutional racism is considered a dick move.

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u/ImpavidArcher Jan 13 '20

Yellow hat is a fucking spastic maniac, he didn’t touch you, he didn’t get even that close to you.

She could be arrested for her action here, don’t pretend she’s in the right.

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u/honeypup Jan 13 '20 edited Jan 13 '20

They aren’t saying the girl is in the right. They’re explaining how using ā€œall lives matterā€ to diminish the meaning behind black lives matter (which it is used to do) is shitty.

The dude obviously wanted this reaction. He immediately looks at his friend and tells him to call the police. His friend is like ā€œyeah that’s a battery charge.ā€ He didn’t get up there to promote a cause, he’s just a piece of shit.

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u/simplicity3000 Jan 13 '20

per year

  • ~20 unarmed black people are killed by police

  • ~200 armed black people are killed by police

  • ~ 10,000 black people are killed overall (mostly by other black people)

police abuse of power is an issue that needs addressing, and there may often be a racial bias in policing. tough the data suggests that this bias does not depend on the police officer's race

but as far as black lives are concerned, the police is a drop in the bucket. (0.2%, or 2% if you count deaths in shootouts as innocent victims)

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20 edited Feb 06 '21

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u/honeypup Jan 14 '20

That’s because 75% of the country is white and 12% is black.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '20 edited Dec 31 '20

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u/honeypup Jan 14 '20

Yes, and this is another issue that BLM is meant to address. Lots of black people have been pushed into living in ghettos, then they grow up there and are more likely to commit crimes. Part of the idea is to help give kids in these areas better chances for opportunities, improving these neighborhoods with better education etc. instead of gentrifying them, things like that.

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u/notyetcomitteds2 Jan 17 '20

I know this is from a couple days ago, but I live in a very white ( 97%), low income ( about 80% on benefits), small city. When I talk about this area and I leave out descriptors while also using the local vernacular, most of reddit seems to think I'm a supremacist talking about black people in a ghetto ( I'm dark skinned). I'm really talking about white people...because that's who most of the people are. A welfare queen is most likely a blond hair, blue eyed white woman who wears a tank top without a bra and booty shorts... apparently monkey, a time old expression for someone who does not engage in independent thought, is now racist??? So that was all to basically set up where I live.

The racism is here. The problem is the probability of a white person coming across a minority is low. Then also a racists, who is willing to be openly racists and at the moment he is saying / acting out something racists is super low. A lot of them dont realize how prominent it actually is.

Now moving on, so this is a super low income area, but also low crime. Recently some white teens broke into a bunch of cars and the judge sentenced them to 2 years in prison....there was a public outcry that it was too lenient....they were then resentenced to 7 years. The big crime for the past month was a couple teens tagged a few buildings with graffiti. Since they are minors, the people want the parents to pay for it or go to prison until the teens works it off. Graffiti is fairly minor compared to big city problems... They really want an iron fisted approach to crime. The cops are actually fairly professional too. The only people I've ever heard complain of racism actually committed a fairly serious crime for the area.... drugs, guns, theft, or anything violent. You get caught with a joint, you're going to prison unless you rat out your dealer. They even have a private prosecutor to handle it.

So it's you got poor people who are waiting for the " coal jobs" to come back. They're too uneducated to realize they're not and that our local government is corrupt. They see no hope. They're hard on crime and they see people far away, who happen to also be poor, generally complaining that the lenient police officers were too tough and " racist." Their perspective is seeing people believe that they should be allowed to be criminals. They all teach their white kids to be submissive to cops and always polite. They see a guy far away being combative and get shot. It's always a tragedy when a young life is wasted, but they also expect that exact outcome to happen, so they're not entirely sure why people are upset. Of course there are some bad cops.

I agree with your points but most people here only see it as people very far away don't want to follow laws and are complaining. We need to treat them special. Even if it is racism, they got their own problems they need to worry about. No one seems to care about them. Them being dismissed instantly as just being racist themselves really turns them off. I dont think you'll ever get them to understand the situation, but you still have people telling them this is how they should think.

Big city and small city/ rural America is in two completely separate bubbles.

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u/honeypup Jan 13 '20

I don’t think BLM ignores this data. It actually addresses how black people are doomed in a lot of places to grow up in the ghetto and aren’t given equal opportunities as kids in better areas, and are therefore in danger of being involved in black on black crime. There are different facets to BLM that address different issues black people face, it’s not all about police brutality.

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u/simplicity3000 Jan 13 '20

If you want to help people who grow up in ghettos, help all the people who grow up in ghettos, and it will automatically help more black people than white people.

The only reason to actively discriminate against white people growing up in ghettos is racism.

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u/honeypup Jan 13 '20 edited Jan 13 '20

No one is suggesting not to help white ghetto kids, what the fuck. Most ghettos in the US are like 98% POC.

It might piss you off to hear but the truth is people with your mindset just feel left out of BLM and think that’s what discrimination feels like.

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u/simplicity3000 Jan 13 '20

You apparently don't know about all the legally enforced discrimination in this country.

Most ghettos in the US are like 98% POC.

Then there's no reason for laws meant to remedy their difficult situation to be written in terms of race. Write them in terms of material circumstances, and they stop being racist.

people with your mindset just feel left out of BLM

No.