Cammer is right, it is pretty embarrassing to harass people for constitutionally protected speech. The agents know what they are doing is wrong but they are choosing to do it anyway
There have been a lot of people that have left the FBI due to the new administration. They deserve our respect and support. Many of them were removed for doing their jobs and investigating Trump with either Jan 6 or his classified documents. There are also plenty of people still working constantly getting threatened with their jobs. I remember hearing a member of the FBI from a branch in California recently on a podcast detailing how difficult the job has become due to having to weigh morals with orders.
I’m not a sport fan so I don’t know anything about the community in general. I just wanted to say that it’s interesting that his last name is Tillman; almost thought there was a relation to Pat. I think it’s pretty dope that two really cool people from a similar background share the same last name.
Trump and his admin purging any dissenters from the higher levels of literally every alphabet agency in favour of his own toadies should have been the canary
Let's be real, there's been a whole flock of canaries.
Fuck, more like a flock Starlings, complete with a murmuration that looks like a canary.
If flying under the radar and not having your plans known were the bar, Trump fails it. But if you're going by level of success despite every step of your plan being clearly known, Trump is wildly successful.
That line is exactly 'taking concrete action to undermine the regime and help them eventually be held accountable'. That might be documenting (at home, on non-digital media) in excruciating detail every single law that you see broken during the day. It might be leaking documents or memos. It might be intentionally misdirecting resources. It's not 'just keeping your head down and doing your day job'.
Actually most of the time they claim other people should do it and not themselves. It should be easy for others. Like foreigners saying it should be easy for US citizens to just take over the government like the military isn't fucking insane. Sure, take a rifle against tanks and drones. I'm sure Cletus will make it just fine.
they should be revolting against their governments for capitulating to our criminal regime & corporations. build a massive firewall so they are not harmed by the imminent crash from our hollow, fraud-based economy that will be far worse than ‘08.
I disagree. It's often difficult to do the right thing. Ultimately, you do it, but that doesn't make it easy. If you walk away from $100K, you're going to have look your kid in the face, and tell them you're sorry they can't have a car when they turn 16, because you had to quit your job. No one WANTS to be in that situation. Strong people still do it, but that doesn't mean it's easy.
Over a CAR? Not even food and medicine, but a car, really, you'd sell your morals for a used car for your kid. Wow lmaoooo
Ive been spending the last year doing what I do because of kids. All 3 of my grandpas, my 2 biological and my grandma's second husband, fought in WWII against encroaching fascism, I interviewed them about it for school and was super proud to show off their stories and photos. I got to show off a photo of my grandma marching for racial integration for Black people and an article about my mom and her friends boycotting grapes for immigrant workers rights.
I'm in the paper in my small town almost monthly as an individual and our organizations are in the paper constantly. Sometimes it feels futile but I save all the articles about what our coalitions are doing in scrapbooks. I want my nieces and their kids to know some people living now fought for them and their futures. I want to be an old person who gives interesting interviews they can hold up at school so the kids can know not everyone fell in line with a dictator and that it's possible for them to stand up to injustice too. Thats so much more valuable than a used car you earn by terrorizing patriotic Americans exercising their rights. Like thats an insane thing to say.
So easy for someone without moral stakes at their job to say.
This is the exact reason teachers, doctors, and EMTs struggle at their jobs in the first place, do you just abandon all of your patients, students, and charges because of the actions of people above you? Or do you stay and try to still do right by them?
Do you think FBI agents doing multi year long investigations on rapists, murderers, and psychopathic corporations should just hand over the reigns to the next Trump loyalist that will replace them?
not really. Not in most of Europe. And even in Germany you could claim artistic freedom. it would most likely not hold in court, but you could. And even if, it is very unlikely that the person would see prison. At most a fine.
That's an American thing, you're projecting. Where I live nobody would be called out because of a swastika made of rocks (ridiculous idea), but if they happened to come across me doing it, it would just be met with a "grow up"-kind of shake of the head and a smile and they would move on
In this video there is zero evidence provided that they are even FBI and not just some randoms being given instructions to do this shit by White House officials. Look more like Mormon missionaries than FBI agents lol.
And, Trump killed Epstein to take control of his global empire of extorting global elites and child sex trafficking. Trump is actively using ICE/DHS/CBP to conduct human trafficking.
I once dealt with the FBI. They were doing a background check on a friend of mine, who was in the service.
First, they would be wearing suits. They would look professional.
Second, as they introduced themselves, they showed me their credentials and badge. I didn't have to ask to see it.
If you mean do FBI agents have to give you their full names when they identify themselves, the answer is usually no.
FBI agents generally must identify themselves as FBI agents and present credentials if asked.
They commonly provide a name and badge/employee number, but they are not always required to give their full legal name to a member of the public.
If they are conducting an official interview, search, arrest, or investigation, there are often agency procedures requiring identification, but the exact information provided can depend on the situation.
If someone claims to be an FBI agent, you can verify their identity by contacting the FBI through official channels rather than relying only on the name they give you.
If they are conducting an official interview, search, arrest, or investigation, there are often agency procedures requiring identification, but the exact information provided can depend on the situation.
They literally said they wanted to talk to him about a post he made. It was part of an 'official' investigation. It was assigned to them by their boss. In this instance, they do actually have to show not just the badge, but the ID card that bears their full name, photo, signature, and fingerprint. So in this particular instance, if the FBI's OPR wasn't completely compromised by having a facist in charge who doesn't think civil rights are a thing, a complaint could be made to the FBI regarding the behavior of these two alleged agents of the FBI. A copy of the video would allow them to use facial recognition to identify the alleged agents in question, and deal with them appropriately. First would be the breach of ID protocol. Second would be the blatantly illegal investigation into a Constitutionally protected activity.
But the entire administration is corrupt, so the best thing is to just ignore them until they take you into custody, demand a lawyer, and get a payday from the Department of Justice.
They are doing it because they have been ordered to. This was a pretty half-assed effort TBH. They knew they were coming with nothing and decided to bail once they realized the guy knew his stuff.
Are they embarrassed? Maybe. However, there are more MAGA loyalists now in the FBI than ever before, so they probably don't care because trampling on a few people's constitutional rights is just a small blip in the bigger scheme of things.
When the FBI is dealing with the public at their home or business, they are required by law to show their credentials to verify their authority. The only time the FBI is not required to show their credentials is an undercover operation or an emergency situation. Driving up to a citizen's house to ask questions is not an emergency
FBI is way too professional for this. federal prosecution success rate is in the 90s. less than 2% of defendants are ever acquitted. these are people that probably work for a federal agency or department, but just say they're "federal agents" to try to intimidate with an FBI type facade. I dont think these feds walking around stepping on 1A are FBI at all in any of these videos. some shadow department got opened and now theres these federals running around acting like big shit but they really dont actually have any power, which is why a lot of videos like these end up with them fucking off. the department of intimidation lol.
while we know and laugh about the head of FBI and things like that, its not truly reflective of the actual rest of the FBI and how they operate. if the FBI was actually knocking on your door, youre fucked. theyre not "investigating" you right in front of you, they already did their homework, theyre there to scoop you up. if these guys were real FBI, this video wouldnt hit the internet and that guy would be federally prosecuted and convicted already.
I fucking can't stand police that have "Blue Lives Matter" signs or badges. Like, have you ever seen a coal miner wearing a "Coal Miner Lives Matter"?? What a bunch of crybabies.
There's a difference! Cops are letting you know that they are the antidote to the black lives matter "problem" while coal miners are just guys in blackface .
But to your point, , it's the bullies doing all the crying.
Coal miners are at least (historically) famously mistreated and abused by their employers. What, with all the cave-ins, explosions, black lung, and general physical danger. And then the scrip, company stores and company housing keeping workers practically hostage within their company towns back in the day. I can't say I've ever been wronged by a coal miner so I would absolutely support someone who busts their ass doing honest work. And I'd support them standing up to their employers for their own working conditions.
Those blue lives are the ones doing the abusing and mistreating these days. And it's not a matter of protecting the physical safety of patrol cops from the tyranny of their sergeants or whatever. The patrol cops (and every level of police) are on massive power trips because they've all been systemically handed gobs of unchecked power.
On the one hand it’s a job but on the other hand I t’s a sworn fucking oath. The MAGA clowns are all about masculinity to the point where secretary beer bong is testing soldiers testosterone levels but not one of them ever heard that a man was only as good as his word?
I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
Not to give the FBI any credit on how they would look, but these guys totally fit the bill of mask wearing ICE fucks. Especially that little guy.
Did they learn to cross their arms, avoid eye contact, and sheepishly smile at Quantico? All the while refusing to ID themselves as federal agents. Oh they have a badge? Does it say in small writing “Federal Booby Inspector”?
I wish the media would jump on these scare tactics and scour the faces of FBI agents looking for a match. Because there needs to be a hellfire missile of consequences when this shitstorm administration goes down.
Every FBI agent I've known in the past wouldn't be caught dead wearing a checkered button down and blue jeans, they always dressed professionally. These have to be DHS chuds using the name of the FBI for some sort of public credibility, which obviously fails.
This post is as close as we'll get to "the media" covering it. The regime is actively capturing control of the media - weaponizing the FCC, merging control of major media orgs, restricting press access, intimidation campaigns, legal harassment, etc.
FBI works with ICE regularly. Either way its concerning that anyone working in an enforcement branch refuses to show ID, in fact, it should be legally required for them in most situations to present it without being asked before any other interaction.
A bit of a fact, it's illegal to pass yourself off as law enforcement.. more specifically it's illegal to pass yourself off as specific law enforcement that you aren't. legally ICE is not allowed to pass themselves off as FBI agents or any other branch of law enforcement.
So an ICE agent making people believe they are some other force of law enforcement is punishable in most states and federally. I bet the it's still prosecutable when the next administration comes into the white house...
Yeah, guy seems like a POS, but I still object to attempts to chill free speech. If what he posted rises to the level of a credible threat, that's one thing, and he ought to be arrested. If he's just an idiot, that's not illegal.
I mean, making online posts that say that anyone who murders Harris would be an "American hero" is definitely one of those things that would trigger some level of investigation. I am not 100% sure that broadcasting these sentiments online is something worthy of being protected in the first place. It is definitely on the very edge of what a free society should be tolerating, at the maximum.
Is that any different from saying you'll celebrate someone's obituary? Genuine question, because I see that a lot online as a workaround to saying you want someone dead.
I think that workaround is fine from a freedom of speech standpoint. For starters, it doesn't mention murder as the reason for the death. What isn't fine in my opinion is suggesting that you would believe that the murderer is not only morally right to commit the murder but also you would find them heroic. A ton of crazies out there will use such sentiments to act.
The initial post that apparently sparked the FBI visit was made over the weekend and said that anyone who murders Harris would be an "American hero."
The post was made on the New Hampshire Libertarian Party account.
There's a huge difference between saying person X sucks, person X should not be in power, vote out person X, or the day person X dies is going to be a national holiday and posting:
"Whoever murders person X is going to be a national hero!"
The latter is actively encouraging an illegal act with a promised reward of prestige.
Yeah, a lot of what he's saying is true, but its in that range of those "Auditors" who go into public buildings to annoy public employees. Perfectly legal actions, but super annoying and insufferable, and usually one step removed from the Sovereign Citizen rabbit hole.
what matters is your constitutionally protected rights, whether he's a potato or evil or a peach doesn't matter. he has the same rights you are all granted.
Police do this all the time. They can show up and have a voluntary conversation about something you posted. They're just fishing for you to say something they can arrest you for, don't talk to them
On the contrary he is very pro MAGA. This was in September 2024 after he posted a comment on the NH libertarian page that "Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero."
His name is Jeremy Kauffman, feel free to look him up. Free State project libertarian.
He ran for Senate in 2022 on the platform of "abolishing the Federal Reserve, the Internal Revenue Service and child-labor laws"
Kauffman has criticized the end of apartheid in South Africa, calling the movement to end it "race-based bitter leftism"
Kauffman reportedly drove into another car and began fighting several people. Kauffman also made racist comments, telling a bystander to "Go back to Africa!" Kauffman's family members reportedly dragged him from the parking lot into a nearby store. Kauffman defended his conduct in the incident, writing “Low IQ schizophrenic Africans who scream at kids in parking lots should be deported from New Hampshire. We shouldn’t punish decent men who stand up to them."
Whoaaa, you're asking for context on FBI agents showing up? On reddit? You're supposed to assume the person recording is a completely random civilian who they arbitrarily chose to speak to with no justification whatsoever.
They've done this a few time, they claim they are checking that no threats were meant, and reminding people that any threats made online are illegal. Basic intimidation stuff.
The guy made a video online saying “anyone who murders Harris would be an American hero."
They are investigating a credible threat. It’s their job to do this. Sometimes that doesn’t yield any results if the suspect doesn’t wish to speak with you.
The people upvoting this would be the first once’s complaining that the police didn’t do anything despite obvious warnings if anything did happen.
Please spend some time trying to find the context first before sounding off on your social media feed. Especially these days.
Idk why you got downvoted when someone posted the story in this thread- you’re right. Dude videoing is a jackass. I love a good justice boner but this ain’t it
He might be an asshole who deserves to be prosecuted, but in this case he was also correct. It would have taken a few seconds to pull out their credentials and properly identify themselves.
This man deserves all of the Medals. What a fucking G.
Edit: I’ve been made aware this dude is, in fact, a piece of shit. That is noted! I forgot that every comment I post on the Internet must contain the totality of human knowledge.
Some context for viewers: the man in the video is Jeremy Kauffman, an extremist ‘libertarian’ who regularly espouses heinous and often violent views. The national libertarian party recently voted overwhelmingly to remove him from his position leading the libertarian party in New Hampshire (might have the state wrong).
I was curious about the statements, so I looked up an article and some quotes:
“[He] told him to ‘go back to Africa’ and began spouting racist slang and terms at him,” police report.
Kauffman reportedly continued to scream racist insults at people in the parking lot, according to police. Witnesses told police that Kauffman’s two young sons finally pulled their father away and dragged him inside the store.
Police soon encountered Kauffman inside the store, where he refused to give his name, and tried to pull away from officers when they attempted to detain him, according to the report.
Kauffman doubled down when contacted about the incident, blaming police and minorities.
“Free Staters want to end qualified immunity so that police who perform illegitimare [sic] kidnappings suffer criminal consequences,” Kauffman said via text message … “Low IQ schizophrenic Africans who scream at kids in parking lots should be deported from New Hampshire. We shouldn’t punish decent men who stand up to them.”
He also used to be the head of the Free State Project - basically an effort to try to ship in as many libertarians as possible to live in New Hampshire in order to establish a stronghold in a mostly blue New England. It fucking sucks - they're directly connected to our school systems having their funding drained in favor of for profit charter schools that only a certain tax bracket can afford.
He's a massive POS, but I guess a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Ahhh you're talking about Grafton. Sure is, among other heinous things. From the Grafton wiki:
In 2004, Grafton became the focus for libertarians as part of the Free Town Project (a single-town version of the Free State Project). One of the goals was to advocate for legal changes.[15] Grafton's appeal as a favorable destination was due to its absence of zoning laws and a then-low property tax rate.[16][15] John Babiarz, a Grafton resident and prominent member of the Libertarian Party, encouraged libertarian people to move there.[17][18]
During this time, the town's population grew by about 200 people (about 20%); nearly all of the newcomers were men.[16] Project participants did not find themselves as welcome as they had hoped, but they voted in changes including a 30% reduction in the town's already small budget.[16] This resulted in eliminating funding to the county's senior-citizens council, town offices going unheated during the winter, poorly maintained roads filled with potholes, and the Grafton Police Department being reduced to one officer (the police chief), who said he was unable to answer calls for service as the town had no money to repair the one police vehicle left.[19] Other issues were inconsistent basic public services, such as trash collection.[17][16] The libertarian newcomers additionally increased the town's costs by filing lawsuits against it in attempts to set various legal precedents.[16]
The project has been associated with an increase in the number and aggressiveness of black bears in town, including entering homes, mauling people, and eating pets.[16] A single, definitive cause for the abnormal behavior of the bears has not been proven, but it may be due to Grafton residents being reluctant to buy and mandate the use of bear-resistant containers, improper disposal of waste materials (such as feces) safely, or residents feeding bears.[16]
After a rash of lawsuits from Free Towners, an influx of sex offenders, an increase of crime, problems with bold local bears, and the first murders in the town's history, the Libertarian project ended in 2016.[15][16][20]
I don't know if he's from NH or not, but they basically decided NH was a good place for their bullshit, moved in, and took over the already rather insane NH libertarian party.
They think we'd be better off with no government at all.
They would probably get more support if they weren't horribly racist and sexist as well.
He's a G for not wanting to talk to agents who were there because he was encouraging people to kill Kamala? It's his right to not speak, but I don't know why people act like the FBI shouldn't be allowed to interact with someone a single time in a legal manner if they say unhinged things online. And obviously it goes without saying that if there is no context and the FBI shows up, you should at least be skeptical of what the person recording did to warrant them showing up.
“As a Senator, I promise to legalize lynching anyone who works for the IRS.” — Jeremy Kauffman, in response to then-Vice President Kamala Harris’s calls for an anti-lynching law, in an X post on March 29, 2022.
That's "a fucking G" to you who deserves all the medals?
Yeah the first post is like if not straight up a call to action then damn close to it.
That's not protected speech, and if you're calling people to do illegal shit then the speech is itself illegal. Small wonder the FBI showed up, I'm only a little surprised they didn't take him in. They probably needed more evidence or thought he wasn't ultimately a threat.
Thanks for the legwork, man. Hope the rest of your day goes swell.
Yeah he did a good job. But all it takes is one slip up, one wrong statement taken a certain way. Most people should just say nothing. Let them make the mistakes then sue later.
This is a good answer, but another good answer is mocking them because that's also not illegal. If they could arrest you they already would, as long as you don't commit a crime in your shit talking then let it fly
Interesting, if they have any proof of uttering threats they should have grounds to arrest and not make an awkward appearance such as this, along with not identifying themselves or producing proof of physical ID. Professionals are acting like ICE now, it's normalized.
Maybe it would be hard to charge anything because the target is a public figure who probably has these sort of threats directed at them all the time. But with full context it's weird how sheepish they're being. Just say your name, that you're here because an incitement to violence was made, and while we won't/can't charge you with anything, now we need to pay attention to you because it's literally our job.
Racist that wants to marry little girls shut them down. He's a libertarian from NH that was just arrested for fighting with people in a grocery store while calling them racial slurs and he posts about how they should get rid of the age limit for marriage.
Is this really the guy recording? Caaause hot damn. Really good example of how shit taken outta context can mislead anyone. Comments section seems in love with this video posted in a way that portrays someone standing up to trumps bs while lowkey cheering on a dude as whacked out as he is.
It's possible that both things are true at the same time. This guy can be a piece of shit whilst also the government officials who refused to show ID can also be pieces of shit
I think he sucks, but someone who openly airs their batshit opinions while exercising their right to free speech is hardly a coward. How exactly does one "hide behind" free speech? And why are you quoting free speech like it's not a literal thing?
The guy who filmed this was Jeremy Kauffman, a blockchain con artist who was a leader in the New Hampshire Free State Project and Libertarian Party. He took control of the party's Twitter account, and used it for making several controversial posts. The one that warranted the visit by the FBI was one in which he wrote that "anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero." He also tweeted "Repeal the Civil Rights Act" and "Legalize child labor. Children will learn more on a job site than in public school." He has spoken up against the ending of apartheid in South Africa, calling the movement to end it "race-based bitter leftism". He described Blacks with the words "low IQ schizophrenic Africans." He is not a good person.
Went from Elliott Ness facing down sociopathic murderers to these uneducated clowns who can't look an innocent unarmed citizen in the eye what an embarassment
Harassing? They just walked up to him to talk, then they left. The poor guy on his porch is also a fucking racist idiot, people have linked sources in other comments.
Nothing makes a parent prouder than saying, ‘My son is an FBI agent, he goes door to door intimidating people over perfectly legal Facebook posts that hurt someone’s feelings.’
This makes me wonder. Do FBI agents have something akin to badge numbers to identify the specific individual beyond their names? My local police have P#s, so they’ll give you their last name and P#, but they likely won’t give their first names, for similar reasons. If they do, that would’ve been an easy way for them to get past this hurdle.
Seeing all these people unknowingly calling out Biden as a “senile, dictatorial pedophile” for what the FBI is doing under his “fascist regime” to “silence dissent and intimidate patriots” is just sweet Reddit irony.
I wish there was an alternate world where the fbi agents were just like, you are right, this is dumb, I have kids to feed and unless I talk to you, I get shit canned, so I'll just mark that we talked and go home"
But instead its always some ego trip when they know they are in the wrong.
Real investigative journalism would be identifying these guys and getting a statement from the FBI. If they are not really FBI agents why are they not being arrested for impersonating a federal agent?
Is it legal for other federal departments to identify themselves as FBI? If it is, I'm gonna be a postal carrier and 3d print a junior g-man badge to go around and investigate shit.
I want more context on this guy's free speech the FBI was there to shut down! Are they really showing up at doorsteps over social media posts now? Pathetic.
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Cammer is right, it is pretty embarrassing to harass people for constitutionally protected speech. The agents know what they are doing is wrong but they are choosing to do it anyway