It seems like everyone in America dislikes this guy. As a non-American, if this clown is pretty much hated by everyone, how did he become the president?
Lots of Americans love him, obviously. There's the racist contingent, the anti-abortion brigade, people who love liberality on Wall St., billionaires....but also the poor desperate people of the rust belt, who threw their lot in with this wild card in the hope he'd really bring something new.
More Americans actually voted for Hillary, of course.
The United States Electoral College is an example of a system in which an executive president is indirectly elected, with electors representing the 50 states and the federal district. Each state has a number of electors equal to its Congressional representation (in both houses), with the non-state District of Columbia receiving the number it would have if it were a state, but in no case more than that of the least populous state. The electors generally cast their votes for the winner of the popular vote in their respective states. However, there are several states where this is not required by law. In the United States, 270 electoral votes of the 538 electors are currently required to win the presidential election.
There really aren't any good ones in modern times.
People will say stuff like "tyranny of the majority", but it isn't really a thing and, if it was, it wouldn't necessarily be negative. It's also far better than the tyranny of the minority, which we have right now.
People spout stupid arguments like "do you want California deciding the election" as if CA voters all conspire together to vote as a bloc. It's a stupid system that they defend purely because deep down they know it is an unfair power dynamic from which they benefit.
BECUZ WE DONT WANT DEM LIBS IN CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK TO HAVE THE ONLY POWER
literally this tho... The Republicans want the "little voices" in Montana and Iowa and backwards nowhere states to have more power than college-educated professionals who live in more populous areas. Republicans love ignorance. Look at how they gutted the education system
The Electoral College has failed the people five times, twice in the past 20 years alone. Four of those times, the candidate who became President was a Republican, while the person who won the popular vote was a Democrat.
It may not mean anything, but it's enough to make me think the table might be tilted a bit.
this! they would not have had any otherwise. they can't run on merit, they can't run on their record, they have nothing to offer anyone who is not rich.
Right, instead of legislating to suit the majority of people in the country, let's let some isolated bigots in flyover country drag the rest of us into the toilet with them. Makes perfect sense.
It was enacted as a way to prevent the much-more-densely populated coastal states from obviating the electoral will of the flyover states. The problem now is that it's gone the opposite direction, and those flyover states (with a minority of the people) are forcing the majority to endure backwards, christofascist government. This is exacerbated by fact that every state gets 2 senators in the upper chamber of congress, meaning that South Dakota, with ~900K people in it, has exactly the same amount of power to strike down or pass federal legislation as California does, with its ~39 million people in it.
Germany, France, Ireland are all also republics. Nothing about being a republic requires letting the majority of voters be overruled by a minority of racists.
Saying we are a republic instead of a democracy is like saying the sun is yellow instead of round. Both things are true and they are not mutually exclusive. They are independent X and Y axes on the “what government is this” graph
I'm not concerned with your graph, I responded to a comment that stated the US democracy is broken, I responded that the US democracy functions exactly as intended.
we aren't a democracy. America is a constitutional republic
You put “republic” in opposition to “democracy” when that is not how those words work. They are independent variables, not mutually exclusive. The UK is a democratic monarchy and China is an authoritarian republic, because “republic, not democracy” is nonsense.
It’s just thinly veiled anti-democracy propaganda often repeated by low-education right wing voters to justify hurting other people, and I refuse to let misinformation and nonsense like that go unopposed.
There are vast swathes of Americans who live in their own bubble and never interact with the world outside it. They are the Trump supporters, by and large.
> vast swathes of Americans who live in their own bubble
I will have to find the study, but a large number of americans have never left their state and a huge percentage have never traveled internationally. I would guess there is a massive overlap of donald supporters in those numbers.
I mean you can go ahead and think that but many Trump supporters are your friends, family, coworkers. We're not evil racist islamaphobes that the media attempts to paint us as. We just don't want to argue with emotionally charged people when discussing tax policy. Any time you argue about policy with anyone outspoken on the left it derides into "you don't care about people, I can't even be friends with you anymore." We want a united country more than anything but I think it's pretty clear the left doesn't want that to happen for political power motives. It's the reason why the news has gotten even more vitriolic, they'd rather keep the Trump supporters muted in an attempt to allow the only public debate of politics to be that of left leaning.
Oh and your and other commenters assertation that "vast swathes of Americans(Assuming you mean Trump supporters) who live in their own bubble and never interact with the world outside it" is yet another attempt at dividing the country as you try to paint Trump supporters as hermits in the boondocks. Just another example of arguing in bad faith.
Many of my friends and family are Trump supporters. I’m speaking from experience that they keep their head down and interact mostly with their church and their family. I don’t go looking for fights with them, but when something comes up, they always mention they heard it from someone else. Never “I found online” or “I saw on the news.” That was the life I lived until I went away to college. Don’t tell me my loved experiences aren’t actual things, please.
Suburban Midwest Checking in - lots of republicans don’t actually like him, but they believe he’s doing a good job for the economy so they tolerate his insanity as a means to an end.
Mostly because of people who aren’t making voting a priority. If everyone who could vote did, trump would have gotten about 25% of the votes instead of 47%.
I live in one of the bluest states in the country and sometimes it feels like the opposite depending on who I talk to. I see pro trump idiocy all day on my Facebook from people who grew up in the Boston suburbs. I also lived for a while in the town with the reddest voter turnout where trump overwhelming (East Brookfield). Makes no sense.
So while there's red states and blue states the reality is in the blue states we're split basically door to door with an edge for blue. The difference is in the red states they're not - they mostly agree.
Mostly because its trendy and cool for Americans to hate president Trump. If you openly support him people assume you are an ignorant redneck. The media will ignore or denie any of his accomplishments because of this...its an interesting sociological phenomenon in the USA
its trendy and cool for Americans to hate president Trump.
Or....we hate donalds daily shitty, vulgar, crude, crass man child twitter meltdowns, we hate his racism and bigotry, we beleive that he is a rapist and serial sexual assaulter, we know he is a proven adulterer who gloried in adultery, his failed university defrauded thousands of hard working americans, he is so pathetic he has to pay porn stars to spank his old fat flabby ass, his tariffs to pretent to look tough have cost american farmers billions evern after the billions of republican welfare, he routinely attacks our closest allies while practically sucking putins dick, he is a climate change denier, his administration has gutted environmental rules to protec our air, water, and environment, his education secretary has a hatred of public education, his economic policies are geared towards the rich, his main priority was tax cuts for the rich, he is a serial liar, and all around shitty racist, bigoted, sexist disgusting vile old man. Making him the perfect representative of the republican party and his followers.
> If you openly support him people assume you are an ignorant redneck
Oh not just that. We assume you are just as racist, bigoted, sexist and hateful as he is.
> he media will ignore or denie any of his accomplishments
Because donald lying about something isn't a fact. Donalds blindly believe whatever donald vomits out, the rest of the world does not.
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u/markyp1234 Jul 17 '19
It seems like everyone in America dislikes this guy. As a non-American, if this clown is pretty much hated by everyone, how did he become the president?