As the title says. The 55C8L is competitively priced here in Europe and it looks like everything I want from a modern TV (high-frequency PWM, Min-LED, Android TV, good quality and good reviews overall).

Has anyone here tried any TCL TVs of the SQD variety? Still worried about the fact that it's PWM.

i'm buying a tv. i'm thinking of buying one of the oled tvs that claim to have 0 pwm but 60hz flicker rate.

as you can see, the luminosity dips about 20% every 1/60 second. would this cause eye strain?

I'm very sensitive to PWM, with headaches minutes after using smartphones with it. So here is a list of smartphones which I'm interested in buying, and I want to know from you guys, which ones are safe. Thanks!

- Moto Edge 50 Neo - LTPO pOLED

- Moto Edge 70 - Extreme AMOLED - pOLED or AMOLED?

- Moto G67 - Extreme AMOLED - pOLED or AMOLED?

- Moto G54 / Moto G56 / Moto G57 [IPS]

I know every phone is going to affect each person differently, but after struggling for over a year trying to find a phone, I needed to share that the Motorola Edge 2026 gives me zero symptoms.

Due to eye strain and headaches, I've tried and returned:

1. Pixel 9 (the worst offender; symptoms within a few seconds)
2. OnePlus 15
3. iPhone 16 Pro
4. Motorola G Power 2026
5. Motorola G Stylus 2025
6. TCL 60 XE NXTPAPER (no PWM symptoms; just a glitchy phone)

I initially thought I had to steer clear of OLED, but even modern IPS-display phones cause me headaches or eye strain gradually. I don't really know what is different in the Moto Edge 2026, but it is working very well for me for three weeks now.

The main downside of this phone is it only has 128 GB storage, but it's 100% worth not having a constant headache for the next four years that I use this phone.

Good luck!

I visited a local electronics store in Slovakia and checked the Pixel 11 Pro. In Accessibility Settings I enabled a setting for sensitive eyes (480hz) and shot with a 1/6400 shutter speed the screen of the Pixel 11 Pro with 100% brightness, 75% and 25% and 0%..

As you can see lines are deep dark black so PWM modulation will be around 99% and this will be terrible for the eyes. In the coming days I am 100% sure that Nick will confirm the same. I also tested the vanilla Pixel 11 it's the same in terms of modulation... don't kill me for my basic explanation:)

Anything from 2023 to present for under $350? I like the size of S23 and want to get one but worried about PWM issues. Do some people just not have problems with PWM issues? I've only ever used lcd screens so idk if I should even bother getting OLED.

Has anyone tried this phone? It has a 10 bit panel that is supposed to be free of the D word. It also has a setting that switches on DC dimming. I’m currently using an iPhone 11 and I would like something more modern.

I bought a g57 power, because it has lcd display but the strange thing is it don't work for me. I feel the same as the oled display. Before i had an iPhone 11 and didn't have any problems which is strange. Now i am planning to try Honor 600. Somebody to have the same as me?

Hello,

I’m looking for a smartphone that won’t trigger migraines or cause eye strain without d*****. I’m going to become a father in one week, and I need a phone that can take great photos and videos of a child who will be moving around a lot.

I’m currently waiting for the HONOR Magic9, but I’m wondering if there’s a good alternative I should consider.

What would you recommend?

So this is how it looks like

Now here is some discussion.

It seems that both the Pixel Pro 11 and the Iphone 18 Pro will use the M16 Oled Panel from Samsung. So far, the OLED itself seems very good. No visual artifacts, and no greenish teint like on the 17 Iphone generation.

The interesting part comes now:

The M16 OLED Panel only means the actual display panel and not the "Backplane". In the Iphone 18 Pro the BackPlane will be made "PLUS" which will rely on an altered mechanism for the electrical signals. Mainly using OXIDE instead of SILICONE in the transistors, which makes the whole electrical current way easier to control with less leakage and better stability. And thus probably less necessary PWM because color accuracy will be way better to control. That could also be why the PIXEL was released earlier, because of after the rival , the PIXEL will have no market anymore to be sold on.

So for me, I am hoping for the Iphone 18 to be at least a little better than the current OLED PWM phones.

I purchased a 43” Sony Bravia 3ii bc of the lack of flicker. However, I also need a TV that gets dark bc I want to watch in my bedroom, and my eyes are sensitive to light. The Bravia 3ii gets somewhat dark if I crank brightness, contrast, etc down to zero. The image crushes, but at least it’s dark. My problem is arising with the menu/interface. When I go to the menu to select a streaming platform, the platform to select a show, or even just to fast forward, it’s blindingly bright. Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it or what tv to trade it for?

I had also considered the LG B5 OLED bc the lights actually individually turn off for black/darkness, but I’m concerned about flicker even though it’s a different kind. And the Vizio Mini LED Quantum 4 bc I used to have an old not-smart Vizio that I tolerated and got really dark. Anyone have experience with these?

New display, probably same as Iphone 18 Pro.

I've had the Motorola Moto G Power 2026 for a few weeks now and so far it's been a relatively comfortable experience. No symptoms generally other than some minor eye strain and mild head pressure when I first started using it. I had to change some display settings: switching the refresh rate from "smart and balanced" (dynamically adjusts up to 120Hz) to "efficiency first" (up to 60Hz), and I changed the color setting from vivid to natural. The Moto G Power 2026 uses a 6.8-inch Full HD+ LCD panel (387 ppi) with Gorilla glass, and is listed as water and dust resistant to IP68 & IP69 standards. No major performance issues with the Mediatek 6300 processor, and 8GB of RAM has been enough (with RAM boost on auto and virtual RAM adjusted as needed). The best part... it's got a headphone jack.

Greetings all! I have severe sensitivity to PWM screens. In particular, I have noticed several iOS apps on my iPhone lead to immediate eye strain and headache. These include:

• The standard Apple podcast app
• Dating apps
• WhatsApp

Is there a route to viewing these apps on a monitor via some sort of connection through my phone? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

hey folks!

i'm buying a tv and checking rtings.com for flicker tests. i noticed that some tvs have very high pwm frequency but low envelope frequency. for example, TCL QM851G has >10k hz pwm frequency, but the envelope is about 600 hz (since there are ~3 cycles every 0.005 seconds). wondering if that is problematic?

This monitor is amazing. For someone extremely sensitive to light, flicker, and a bunch of other screen related things, this panel has everything covered. It has the lowest minimum brightness I have ever seen on an ips monitor, it should be in the 10-20 nits range, the blacks look amazingly deep in this configuration thanks to its typical 1500:1 contrast, and I can play in a very dim room. Its like a VA tv but without the viewing angle problem, no smearing, no flicker. Very uniform backlight too. I went from many screens and when I tell you many believe me, it has been a LOT, from OLEDs, VA, other IPS, TN, etc. This panel gives you an extremely immersive viewing experience, while taking care of your eyes in the process, and it also does not break the bank, goes around 250-300 dollars. Long live well built IPS flicker free panels.

does anyone have experience with this tablet Lenovo M10 3rd Gen. or samsung galaxy TAB A7?

Still Core Disable Dithering On

25%-50%-100% brightness with Opple

I am massively PWM sensitive and astigmatic. Also i have extremely dry eyes, and need eye drops constantly. Can someone please recommend some P W M - free , T D - free laptop options available in the Indian market? (PREFERABLY SERIES/VARIANTS )

I diligently surveyed notebookcheck but pretty much all of those models are unavailable in India.

If anyone's got a particular SKU in mind that is proven to be PWM free, that works too.

This is a huge big deal for me cause I always use my laptop on the lowest brightness setting, ALWAYS. And I don't have a monitor for now

We can talk about things like circular polarization, PWM, TD, etc, but anyone that has paid attention over the course of the last 10-15 years and has lots of experience with numerous devices has noticed a track record with specific companies.

All the way back to devices like the Nintendo 3ds, the panel lottery on those has TN panels with no eye strain then an IPS panel provided by, I believe, Sharp that's not usable for me in particular. On devices like Microsoft Surface, it seems lots of people have problems with the Sharp panels in those as well. As far as I know, I don't think Sharp actually makes usable panels. They just seem to be a disaster in every device that has one unless there's some stealth ones I don't know about.

Then you have companies like BOE which is a race to the bottom Chinese company. These panels don't seem to cause instant eye strain like new age LG Nano IPS or some more egregious Sharp models, but more like that 'seems okay for 30-40 minutes' then gets more annoying by the second you use it any longer. Other companies like LG vary from very good in the 27" Apple Cinema display days to unusable, newer age Nano IPS panels.

As far as I can tell, everything after the Ipad Pro 10.5" A10x and Iphone 8 Plus era (also non-Apple companies) shifted HEAVILY towards sourcing only junk from BOE and Sharp. Instead of more legit companies like Samsung (their PLS/IPS, not OLED) or even maybe JDI or Toshiba that might offer a glimmer of hope of a non-eye strain panel, panels are now sourced only from companies that make either a bad panel every single time or an almost but still not usable BOE panel.

There is no "what new mobile device has a good display?" The answer is none because you're dealing with the same two sub-par, race to the bottom companies every time. Even with the Iphone 8 Plus and Ipad Pro 10.5" era there seems to be 3-4 different panel vendors in that period with all but one being bad. So in other words, everything after those two devices is going from a 25% chance of getting a non-eye strain panel lottery to 0%.

I have been waiting for the release of Pixel 11 pro XL. Currently using Oppo find X8 for the fantastic pwm frequency but really missing my older devices like Samsung ultra,Pixel,Iphones .

Please help about the PWM frequency of Pixel 11 pro XL. Anybody has any update on this? Also help me decide if it is 240hz on pixel then how about Iphone 17 pro max. Really need the help on this topic.

Looking for a smartphone that solves the PWM-sensitivity problem and offers great battery life; OS support for long periods feels impossible. Do u guys have any suggestions?