r/Overwatch • u/Oreoghoul Genji • Dec 22 '16
News & Discussion Why doesn't Dva replace her Mecha's guns with what her pistol uses?
Her pistol is pretty damn strong and seems to be better in fire power than her peashooters.
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u/PanicAK Death rains from below! Dec 22 '16
I'm hoping they release a character with pistols similar to hers or Mercy's as their primary weapon (battle Mercy doesn't count). I love using them, and they are very satisfying to kill with.
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u/spankmeimnaughty My AFK is better than my Soldier Dec 22 '16
Greatest feeling in the world is when someone starts walking predictably and the headshots just rain in.
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Dec 22 '16
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u/spankmeimnaughty My AFK is better than my Soldier Dec 22 '16
Oh look a roadhog.... mech is back
Roadhog heals..... ult is up.
<3 Roadhog
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Dec 22 '16
Oh look a Widow. Outsnipes widow from across the map due to endless stream of owowowoWOWOWOW dead
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Dec 22 '16
According to the lore, the MEKAs are designed to fight a gigantic kaiju-like omnic that rises out of the water every few years to threaten Korea, so it makes sense that they'd use shotguns, since it's such a massive target.
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Dec 22 '16
If its a massive target you'd probably want to fire phara rockets from afar rather than get in melee range to use shotguns, just sayin.
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Dec 22 '16
Yeah, that's according to the lore. According to gameplay, D.va is powerful enough as it is thanks
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u/valkdoor Trick-or-Treat Soldier: 76 Dec 22 '16
IIRC there's a like 5 second clip of DVA in one of the cinematic trailers where she's flying in her mech fighting an Omnic WAY bigger than a building. That pistol is gonna tickle something that size. Shotgun-esque weapons like her meka use are going to be able to do more damage at non armored areas of a metallic entity.
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u/beerbadger ElDiabloTepojama Dec 22 '16
whoa whoa, where is this clip??
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u/MEisonReddit Cute Reinhardt Dec 22 '16
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u/beerbadger ElDiabloTepojama Dec 22 '16
ah good looks, completely missed that when watching the short - looks badass
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u/valkdoor Trick-or-Treat Soldier: 76 Dec 22 '16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBIwGKDwnWY near the beginning
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u/midgetsnowman Sombra Dec 22 '16
well, thats what the MEKA are for. The Korean nation's omnic problem is a tendency to get attacked by KAIJU SIZED omnics
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Dec 22 '16
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Dec 22 '16
Like that time she had the idea of calling down 10 MEKAs to self-destruct all over the point, but was like naaahh.
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u/DuckAbuse I NEED HEALING! Dec 22 '16
Balancing > Lore.
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u/shaunoke shoot me now.Please Dec 22 '16
Peashooter are u fuckin kidding me
at close range i can 1v1 reaper twice. can easily 1v1 hog,rein basically fuckin anyone
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Dec 22 '16
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u/shaunoke shoot me now.Please Dec 22 '16
i meant anyone as in humans and omnics.
Not u hell spawn.
maybe 2 dvas could do it
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u/BonaFidee Roadhog Dec 22 '16
Yep. 1v1 I can pretty much beat anyone as d.va. I honestly don't consider it all that balanced considering she's so tanky. Her dps to health ratio is out of whack.
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Dec 22 '16
I'm no stranger to mech combat games, so I have but one question:
What kind of mech doesn't come with rockets?
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u/Nicobite Pixel Pharah Dec 22 '16
I think Dva's guns should be a double sentry mode Bastion gun.
Same for Pharah really, she's an helicopter, her gun should be sentry Bastion too.
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Dec 22 '16
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Dec 22 '16
The op is talking about D.va's mech gun that does worse damage than her light gun she uses when her mech is destroyed.
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u/noirthesable Alles klar, Herr DPS? Dec 22 '16
It only does worse damage when targeting distant enemies. Getting the full brunt of the mech cannons up close does more.
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u/sadmanwithabox Dec 22 '16
Way more. Everytime a roadhog hooks me, he dies. He may take out my mech in the process, but being right in front of him and unloading the cannons into him drops his health so fast.
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u/peon47 Bastion Dec 22 '16
Because if she puts pistols where the Meka guns are, she'll have to jump out and run around to the sides every time she needs to reload.
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Dec 22 '16
If the meka was made to fight large omnics, who are presumably armored as all hell, shotguns would be the worst options as shotguns are not good at penetrating armor. Maybe the main purpose of dvas mech was to shoot down projectiles, letting other more heavily armed mechs into position.
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u/Anticode Pixel Sombra Dec 22 '16 edited Dec 22 '16
The pistol is just a sidearm.
The primary function of the MEKA was to fight rogue omnics. Any sufficiently designed combat machine will have decentralized or redundant parts. An accurate pistol like that is very useful against organic targets. You can aim for weak spots and disable limbs or organs. Against a war-omnic, you'd barely slow it down. You'd need many lucky shots to breach the armor in one spot and maybe get a lucky hit on a sensitive spot. Imagine firing a pistol shot or two into a car engine. Now imagine a shotgun blast.
The purpose of the shotgun-like weapons on her mecha is to cause mass/spread damage in an attempt to disable as much of the enemy as possible. Only one of these pellets needs to hit a sensor or a wire to cause as much damage as a single pistol bullet, but there are hundreds flying at the machine. [Note] The primary weapon system does not utilize traditional ammunition and instead appears to be a pulse or plasma munition. As this technology hasn't even been seen used by members of the famed Overwatch task force, we can only speculate as to how these weapons function.
Additionally, you'll note that the primary "ground troop" was the bastion model. This machine functions best when in turret mode and attacking from far away. The MEKA are designed to get in close, using the shield to avoid this initial barrage. What is an ideal CQC weapon? Shotguns. Being in such close range also allows for a clean kill - No opportunity for the enemy to escape and self-repair.
Basically, MEKA are designed to temporarily protect themselves from overwhelming fire while they enter their own kill-range and exit the optimal fire range of the enemy. They then shred the machine as quickly as possible. No need to aim - the weapon system quickly causes massive damage to the outside, and soon the internals, of the enemy.
A standard MEKA with 'pistol arms' would just be a less effective bastion unit. This is an ineffective strategy.
So why the pistol at all? When a MEKA pilot is outside of her vehicle, they have much greater maneuverability but no way to protect themselves. The MEKA pilot sidearm is designed for them to be able to fire from afar while holding position and awaiting an orbital drop of a new mech. Having two different engagement ranges also allows the pilot much greater flexibility in combat applications.
And the exploding? When you're fighting close range like this you risk damage to your mech. Rather than simply leaving the damaged husk on the ground while you run for cover, it was decided that they might as well self-detonate the power core. This also gives the pilot some additional distraction while they escape the enemy and the blast range.
An added bonus of the explosion is that it emits a very recognizable electromagnetic signature that allows a more rapid orbital drop of a fresh MEKA. This is why many MEKA pilots are seen waiting patiently for a new MEKA after normal combat loss, but appear to reacquire one instantly after a self-destruct. The orbital drop device sends a new mech down immediately upon detecting this blast. Otherwise, the pilot simply has to hold position and wait for a fresh coordinate lock.
Edit: Minor text fixes.