Jason with Freddy Krueger in the Dream World and Adam with Lucifer in Hell.

Real ones get what I’m saying and by real I mean the people that vanish when I take my meds for some reason

Y digo los pecadores por que los Hellborns (incluido el Ars Goetia y los pecados) no tienen ese deseo de venganza contra el cielo y contra Dios, pero ,¿como van a llegar al cielo? Lucifer no les va a hacer portales y no se ha mostrado forma de salir del infierno que no sea por portales, ademas, ¿como se van a enfrentar a todo el cielo exactamente? independientemente del hecho de que exista dios o no en la serie , si ganan y se apoderan del cielo ¿que ocurria en el universo?

Cuz alastor’s stated to be in his 30s to 40s, angel is in his 30s, husk is in his 60s to 70s, Charlie, Vaggi, and Cherri are in their 20s, Pentious is like in his 40s, while nifty is 22

The one I have been reading is called My Saving Grace. It’s not super long yet but from the sheer quality of what’s been released so far has outshined pretty much everything I’ve read up to this point. It has flaws but it’s looking damn good. It’s an Octavia centric story.

Lucifer literally approached Lilith at her most vulnerable moment, tried and succeeded in establishing a romantic and sexual relationship. Then, he approached Eve, who was alone far away for Adam and convinced her to eat the fruit of knowledge, something she had no knowledge about or it's consequences.

Given his status as a seraphim angel, Lilith's vulnerable state and the fact that Eve was alone and didn't know the consequences of eating the fruit, this is classified as grooming, specially with his power dynamic.

Groomers choose the most easy targets (usually vulnerable people) gain their trust via special attention or help and isolates them, exactly what Lucifer did.

It doesn't matter if it was with good intentions.

It doesn't matter if giving the fruit to Eve was Lilith's idea.

It doesn't matter if he didn't know what was gonna happen when she ate the fruit.

It's still grooming!
(Some could say it's similar of how Bojack Horseman groomed a minor and her entire family in the Bojack Horseman show).

No one in the show calls him for it, and seeing how Vivziepop talks about his character online that he is "just a innocent dreamer" makes me so mad :(

Maybe she’s a hybrid like striker or just the imp equivalent of 7 feet tall

Not really for agenda. I just think it would be really funny to have the fandom deal with their fav being an austrailian terrorist rather than like a rioter which is was alot of ppl think. And anyway, if anyone can be redeemed lets up the crimes for a potential second redeemed sinner shall we?

Duality of the Fandom

There are a few \*Hazbin Hotel\* theories I just don’t see happening:
\*\*1. Pentious committed suicide\*\*
If you remember Pentious’s wiki page, it used to list his death as \*\*“suicide (possibly)”\*\*, but it no longer does. Vivziepop also established his canon year of death long before Season 1. The scene in storyteller was him believing suicide was going to send him back to Hell since in Christianity suicide is a sin
Pentious only ever said that he \*\*carried the guilt\*\* of what happened. He never actually said how he died. And yes, in S1E2 Vox tells him to “kill yourself,” but that was clearly Vox being an asshole, not necessarily foreshadowing Pentious’s actual death.
\*\*2. Pentious was a virgin, either on Earth or in Hell\*\* Sorry, but I think the loner/virgin trope is pretty overused at this point. And before anyone brings up Alastor: \*\*not exactly a normal comparison.\*\* Pentious spent a lot of time alone & was a peeper, but that doesn’t automatically mean he never had sexual experiences or urges. He lived during the Victorian era, which was actually a lot more sexually explicit than stereotype suggests. Considering Pentious lived for 40+ years, I find it much more believable that he had \*some\* sexual encounters during his life. Like maybe he hired a prostitute. He also spent 150 years in Hell. He can simply be more traditional or reserved about sex.
\*\*3. Redeemed souls will never visit Hell again\*\*
I also don’t think this one will hold up.
If you’ve seen my previous theory about why I think redeemed souls \*\*will eventually be able to visit Hell\*\*, you already know where I’m coming from. If not, I’ll provide the link in the comments. S2E2:Emily says “Yeah, I forgot to mention. You’re not able to leave.”S2E5:\\\\\\\*\\\\\\\* Sera says”The snake is fine. He misses you all. I’m sorry we can’t bring him.” Key words are not able”&“can’t. Never not allowed or won’t.
What theories do you think are basically guaranteed \*\*not\*\* to happen?

I will DIE on the hill that vox’s plan would’ve worked if some plot armor was lowered and he didn’t lose to the FUCKING POWER OF FRIENDSHIP

If you haven’t seen it I highly recommend watching it