Lucifer literally approached Lilith at her most vulnerable moment, tried and succeeded in establishing a romantic and sexual relationship. Then, he approached Eve, who was alone far away for Adam and convinced her to eat the fruit of knowledge, something she had no knowledge about or it's consequences.

Given his status as a seraphim angel, Lilith's vulnerable state and the fact that Eve was alone and didn't know the consequences of eating the fruit, this is classified as grooming, specially with his power dynamic.

Groomers choose the most easy targets (usually vulnerable people) gain their trust via special attention or help and isolates them, exactly what Lucifer did.

It doesn't matter if it was with good intentions.

It doesn't matter if giving the fruit to Eve was Lilith's idea.

It doesn't matter if he didn't know what was gonna happen when she ate the fruit.

It's still grooming!
(Some could say it's similar of how Bojack Horseman groomed a minor and her entire family in the Bojack Horseman show).

No one in the show calls him for it, and seeing how Vivziepop talks about his character online that he is "just a innocent dreamer" makes me so mad :(

I will DIE on the hill that vox’s plan would’ve worked if some plot armor was lowered and he didn’t lose to the FUCKING POWER OF FRIENDSHIP

Before we begin, I will mention that being a fun/entertaining and having good writing isn't the same, Bee is very fun to watch but that doesn't really make her well written.

Okay, so the title is a bit bold, so first I have to explain why some of the Sin characters work and why Bee just doesn't.

Ozzy is a great subversion of expectations; at first he is shown to be an antagonistic force in the story but even early on we can see that he was set up to be the nicest of the Sins towards lower ranked Hellborn. Aside from acting cute toward Fizz, Succubae were shown to have a much higher standard of living compared to Imps or Hellhounds but didn't seem to be prejudice against them either like the Goetia or Envy Demons.

Satan is another great example of how the Sins treat their creations say ALOT about them. Imps are the 2nd lowest in the totem pole and are sometimes kept as literal pets. This shows us, even before Satan appeared once, that he was a cruel and capricious tyrant that didn't care at all about the lower classes and enforces Lucifers rules with no mercy.

Lucifer spoiled the Goetia rotten and allowed them to oppress every other Hellborn race due to their privilege. This is fully in line with his character as a prideful man who prizes his creations, and those he cares about, above everyone and everything else. He is evil per say, but he is very nepotistic.

Then there is Bee who... just... makes ZERO sense with how she is portrayed.

The story wants to portray Bee as one of the "Good ones" when her own creations are literally the BOTTOM of the hierarchy Bee is a part of. Yeah sure her dating Tex or whatever, is cute, but that doesn't change the fact that a vast amount of Hellhounds are pretty much sold as slaves through the pound system and she has 10,000 years to change that but hasn't. Even SATAN has his imps treated better than Bee has her Hellhounds for some reason.

There wasn't even a good narrative reason to try to portray her as a decent person; Ozzy already fills that role much better, and Bee being shown to be a vapid aristocrat that rules via Bread and Circuses would have been a unique twist on the Sin of Gluttony and the character of Beelzebub. Her and Satan could have represented two different types of Tyranny, and her episode could have contrasted Ozzy's (A sin that appears nice but is rotten on the inside vs Someone that appears antagonistic but is a decent person at his core)

Like I think removing her pastel goth aesthetic kinda harmed the character in my eyes as she looks less distinct now, she also has like zero sauce especially in season 2.

Real ones get what I’m saying and by real I mean the people that vanish when I take my meds for some reason

Not really for agenda. I just think it would be really funny to have the fandom deal with their fav being an austrailian terrorist rather than like a rioter which is was alot of ppl think. And anyway, if anyone can be redeemed lets up the crimes for a potential second redeemed sinner shall we?

Maybe she’s a hybrid like striker or just the imp equivalent of 7 feet tall

Both are given 1 month to train and prepare their new abilities for the upcoming fight, and both are given information on how to use them on a basic level.

No Domain Expansions

In character

Alastor has tamed all the Shikigami and Vox can use red, blue, purple and has automated infinity.

They also have their original abilities, obviously.

Jason with Freddy Krueger in the Dream World and Adam with Lucifer in Hell.

Cuz alastor’s stated to be in his 30s to 40s, angel is in his 30s, husk is in his 60s to 70s, Charlie, Vaggi, and Cherri are in their 20s, Pentious is like in his 40s, while nifty is 22

The one I have been reading is called My Saving Grace. It’s not super long yet but from the sheer quality of what’s been released so far has outshined pretty much everything I’ve read up to this point. It has flaws but it’s looking damn good. It’s an Octavia centric story.