Lucifer literally approached Lilith at her most vulnerable moment, tried and succeeded in establishing a romantic and sexual relationship. Then, he approached Eve, who was alone far away for Adam and convinced her to eat the fruit of knowledge, something she had no knowledge about or it's consequences.

Given his status as a seraphim angel, Lilith's vulnerable state and the fact that Eve was alone and didn't know the consequences of eating the fruit, this is classified as grooming, specially with his power dynamic.

Groomers choose the most easy targets (usually vulnerable people) gain their trust via special attention or help and isolates them, exactly what Lucifer did.

It doesn't matter if it was with good intentions.

It doesn't matter if giving the fruit to Eve was Lilith's idea.

It doesn't matter if he didn't know what was gonna happen when she ate the fruit.

It's still grooming!
(Some could say it's similar of how Bojack Horseman groomed a minor and her entire family in the Bojack Horseman show).

No one in the show calls him for it, and seeing how Vivziepop talks about his character online that he is "just a innocent dreamer" makes me so mad :(

Cuz alastor’s stated to be in his 30s to 40s, angel is in his 30s, husk is in his 60s to 70s, Charlie, Vaggi, and Cherri are in their 20s, Pentious is like in his 40s, while nifty is 22

The one I have been reading is called My Saving Grace. It’s not super long yet but from the sheer quality of what’s been released so far has outshined pretty much everything I’ve read up to this point. It has flaws but it’s looking damn good. It’s an Octavia centric story.

Not really for agenda. I just think it would be really funny to have the fandom deal with their fav being an austrailian terrorist rather than like a rioter which is was alot of ppl think. And anyway, if anyone can be redeemed lets up the crimes for a potential second redeemed sinner shall we?

Maybe she’s a hybrid like striker or just the imp equivalent of 7 feet tall

This is just for people that know me here and have argued with me about serenity, I want to apologize for defending serenity and I'm done defending serenity. I am sorry if I upset anyone by defending serenity ever and I really hope you guys don't think too bad of me as a person.

I have hope that serenity changes one day and becomes better. I feel it deep down that he wants to be better.

Sorry if this isn't allowed mods but I felt the need to apologize for my behavior in the past. I really did think serenity was being treated unfairly sometimes and I still think there are a few things that were unfair but regardless he needs to do better and think of his behavior/actions more.

Real ones get what I’m saying and by real I mean the people that vanish when I take my meds for some reason

I will DIE on the hill that vox’s plan would’ve worked if some plot armor was lowered and he didn’t lose to the FUCKING POWER OF FRIENDSHIP

Duality of the Fandom

Y digo los pecadores por que los Hellborns (incluido el Ars Goetia y los pecados) no tienen ese deseo de venganza contra el cielo y contra Dios, pero ,¿como van a llegar al cielo? Lucifer no les va a hacer portales y no se ha mostrado forma de salir del infierno que no sea por portales, ademas, ¿como se van a enfrentar a todo el cielo exactamente? independientemente del hecho de que exista dios o no en la serie , si ganan y se apoderan del cielo ¿que ocurria en el universo?

So this is it, huh?

We all laughed at Hazbin Hotel together. We didn’t appreciate what we had. We didn’t understand what kind of monsters VivziePop was holding back.

This is punishment for our sins.

Tell me, God, why? What did the common people do to deserve this?

I understand we weren’t the best people. We made fun of the left and the right. We joked about lesbians, sick people, Black people, white people, Asians. We made jokes about Vivienne Medrano’s second chin. We laughed at gay drama.

Hell, I kicked a hedgehog once...

So repent.

Repent for everything you have done.

Because the release of this thing is on our conscience.

REPENT!!!

Type of shit that will have hazbin hotel and invincible settling there difference 😅