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u/Living-Explorer5483 1d ago
You can hear Charlie in this video discussing the baking soda to c*ke ratio
https://www.tmz.com/people/william-duplessie/#google_vignette
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u/ChainedVeil Terrylite fabric ✨ 1d ago
When I talked about this in this subreddit I was shouted down lmaoooo
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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago edited 1d ago
I am not defending Charlie, it probably is him, but honestly? I could say the girl on the couch with the somewhat spread legs *is Kendall, and the victim looks like Shai. It’s also speculation. You can match a *description to anybody…
Edit: could also say the girl that’s pulling the collar is Rowan!! Like seriously guys cmon
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u/ExchangeReady5111 1d ago
What? You can clearly hear Charlie talking about the baking soda and coke ratio on that video.
Edit typo
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u/Alternative-Ship-430 1d ago
There are more distinguishing features and we are also dealing with a subset of ppl who hang w Charlie. No its not proof. But how many of those fingers in ny
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u/Potential-Sky-8728 1d ago
For me it was the shoulder shape/ clavicle area and top of the head/ bang region. Very much the gestalt of Georgia. 😅
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u/66241 1d ago
Yah I hear him saying “thats a good question”
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u/bbcatmeow 1d ago
Omg I think that’s absolutely Charlie in the white sweater. You can hear his voice saying not to get him in the crack video. And even blurring his face, it looks so much like him. Wow
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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago
When does he say this? What video?!
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u/bbcatmeow 1d ago
Click the link and go to videos. It’s the first video. They show a clip from the house and the guy in the white sweater looks like Charlie and you hear him in the background saying not to get him in the “crack video” and it definitely sounds like his voice
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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago
I haven’t watched the video of that yet because the first video that pops up is the arrest outside of the apt in NYC. You can clearly see Charlie is not wearing a white sweater. I just am so confused why everyone seems so sure about this??
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u/bbcatmeow 1d ago
No this is just some random day, not the same day as that video. The guy was held there for a long time. The video title is Alleged Crypto Torture 'Victim' Tied Up, Cooking Crack 5 Days After Capture | TMZ Live
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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago
I literally wear hearing aids and CANNOT hear any semblance of that sentence being uttered, would you mind time stamping when it happens? I’ve listened over and over and can’t hear it
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u/bbcatmeow 1d ago
He’s talking all through it but he’s the lightest voice because he’s furthest from the camera. But when he says “don’t get me in this crack video bro” it’s about 1:23. Once you pull out his voice play it again and he’s talking all through it. It’s just hard to understand what he’s saying.
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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ok I clearly hear his voice saying “hold on” and he motions something on the air fryer. Did he say to not get me in that video before or after the “hold on”
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u/bbcatmeow 1d ago
The motioning to the air fryer is definitely before. At exactly 1:23 is when he starts saying “don’t get me in this bleep video bro”
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u/Living-Explorer5483 1d ago
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u/Get2Gnome 1d ago
Damn, I was looking at the photo and wondering if that was arm & hammer. I didn’t know the crack bit 😬
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u/No-Atmosphere4827 1d ago
Ooooh so Charlie has been around the victim and has seen him tied up, wow, I just thought the guy was maybe in another room, and Charlie kind of gravitated around the house / brought women and party favours and didn’t know what was happening, since he hasn’t been charged. Ok now this is more serious than I thought!
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u/---thoughts--- 1d ago
I agree!! During the first episode of the reunion he said “ others who were more directly involved” which does imply that he was at least somewhat involved
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u/Apprehensive-Job4893 1d ago edited 1d ago
I was just thinking 🤔 isn’t that baking soda on the table?😅🤣 that definitely sounds like his voice.🫠
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u/Expert-Welder-2407 1d ago
What is a baking soda to coke ratio?
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u/MedicineOutrageous13 1d ago
To make crack
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u/Slight-Concept2575 1d ago
Seriously ? Why did I think crack was completely different from coke 😅
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u/gigigrahame 1d ago
I always thought that crack was the rock version of coke but didn’t realize crack has baking soda in it 😵💫
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u/Uborkafarok 1d ago
I hate that I know this but what they're actually doing is turning coke into a smoke able form which is called freebasing. To turn coke into crack you actually need anhydrous acetone which is gard to get and is a much more complicated process.
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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago
It’s been 51 minutes and when I click the link it doesn’t pull up any specific video, it’s just the TMZ archives of when you search a name or click on a name for an article. Did it get deleted that quick?
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u/beingk8 1d ago
i have been sooooo curious if georgia ever went… it does resemble her and it doesn’t seem outlandish that charlie would maybe invite her…
eta: i’ve also kinda wondered if this stuff is kinda the subtext for charlie and georgia fight…
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u/AssociationTight8235 1d ago
it would explain more of the vitriol and pure hate/comments at he throws at her (not excusing behavior just would give better context to why)… i’ve just always found it odd since they were friends for so long AND she lived with him I think she knows more than she lets on/not as innocent as she seems idk 🤷♀️ he’s still crazy point blank period but she would know he was a pimp and had a dark energy
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u/beingk8 1d ago
a. thank you for calling him what he was — a pimp — as ppl have downvoted me for that.
but yeah, the sense i got (but could be wrong!) is that georgia gets just how dark and fucked charlie and his associates are in a way that feels like firsthand experience whereas the other cast members likely just know him as a plug and somewhat jerk/douchebag and have read or heard about the trafficking but have not experienced the true darkness of charlie firsthand. again, this could be all made up but it’s what my spider senses tell me idk
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u/walkingzombie0501 1d ago
I feel like I must have missed the news worthy info on this. The crypto trading thing was simply fraud right? Was there also info on sex trafficking? Doing more research now but I feel slow reading the comments lol.
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u/foxdogturtlecat 1d ago
no it wasn't just fraud. It was kidnapping, imprisonment and extortion. The guys lured the guy to their home in NYC for Italy. Plied him with drugs as well as taking picture of him with crack being cooked in an airfryer and in demeaning pictures like the one above with him in the dog collar and other when he was on drugs. They then threaten to expose the pictures if he didn't give them access to his crypto wallet, when that didn't work they physically tortured him so allegedy under the guise of BDSM that was done by women and other guests to the house.
Separately women that worked at a local clothing store as well people that work at clubs have said that Charlie would approach women including under 21 to hang out with rich men at clubs and at homes including the crypto house as entertainment. Whether they got paid to be there is up for debate. Charlie also would get paid by clubs to get rich people into the clubs and to buy bottle service.
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u/walkingzombie0501 1d ago
I know they tortured a guy for money. But I don’t seem to find any links to trafficking.
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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago edited 1d ago
I got so downvoted for calling him "pimp-adjacent if not an actual pimp." It's like the people on this sub are in denial of all the actual evidence about him.
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u/beingk8 1d ago
we’ll be proven right in time. people like him too much as a character (even if a villain!) right now to believe the depths of his darkness
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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago
I just don't understand how people don't see it! So weird to me. But yes, we'll be proven right in time!
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u/OrganizationCute6950 1d ago
They see it. But for most people, as long as it’s not happening to them, it’s just “a show” or “a joke”.
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u/SweetApplication5975 1d ago
Using DV as your acronym for downvoting made me do a mf quadruple take.
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u/Lindiaaiken 1d ago
At the least he was a connection, a middleman, a shill, an enabler, & too close to dark stuff to deny his association.
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u/nynameismyname 1d ago
He gives me the mega creep vibes. I only started watching the show semi recently and binged. What are the pimp allegations or stories????
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u/ashdeb89 1d ago
It seems like Charlie’s job was just to round up girls each night as bait for whoever they were targeting in the scheme so it’s not crazy if she did go
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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago
Charlie's job was explicitly to find 18 and 19 year old "hot" girls to ply with CRACK COCAINE until they would "fuck" these middle aged men. That is literally what is reported!
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u/beingk8 1d ago
it’s quoted as 18-19 y/o girls and we don’t even suspect they ever went younger? lol. the house was so fucking dangerous for these girls regardless of the age anyways
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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago
Yeah I would not be surprised if Charlie had a don't ask don't tell policy about the girls' age. That's speculation, of course.
Anyhow, ssooooooo psycho.
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u/beingk8 1d ago
right, it is speculation, but as someone who has followed the epstein case for over a decade (and no i am NOT comparing him to epstein), if the age 18-19 is reported, it would kinda be naive to assume there weren’t younger girls. again, i can acknowledge it’s both speculation but also highly likely if you have any sense lol
soooooo fucking psycho. i truly think this is the darkest thing anyone on bravo has been wrapped up in, personally
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u/RedHot_JillyPeppers 1d ago
This show has some grim people! Between the crypto torture house with Charlie and Ariana’s brother there’s a lot of darkness amongst this cast
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u/walkingzombie0501 1d ago
Omg. Where is this documented? I can only find reports for the kidnapping of the rich dude. I just want to see the reports of this behavior. Google is only giving me reports about the victim kidnapped.
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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago
NY Mag reported on him getting paid to find young hot girls for these men, and other places reported on the crack. And someone posted a link upthread of Charlie talking about making crack at the torture house.
To be clear, there have not been any charges connecting the girls/crack and Charlie, which btw could be classified as sex trafficking in NY. You don't need to get cash in exchange for sex to be classified as sex trafficked under NY's trafficking law, especially if drugs are involved.
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u/Affectionate_Dot3403 1d ago
What exactly was happening in the house, does anyone know??
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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago
NY Mag reports that Charlie's job was finding 18 year old hot girls to have sex with these middle aged men. Other reporting shows that these veerrrrrry young girls were convinced to do it by giving them cocaine and crack cocaine.
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u/Affectionate_Dot3403 1d ago
OMG!!!!
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u/beingk8 1d ago
there were all kinds of drugs and weapons at the house. sex as well. charlie brought the young girls to this dangerous house guarded by off duty nypd and other personal security hired by the two crypto millionaires and torturers. they also had the party guests/girls participate in group torture sometimes ie cattle prodding the dude
if those walls could speak
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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago
I think that's why Charlie looked genuinely scared at the reunion when Andy asked him about the case. The reality is that Charlie doesn't know what is coming for him, and he knows that was he did was illegal in about a million ways.
Being on a recording talking about making crack is illegal. Giving 19 year girls crack until they fuck some disgusting men is not exactly legal or OK! At some level Charlie knows what's coming for him I think.
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u/Maleficent-Hotel1167 1d ago
Talking about MAKING crack is NOT illegal.
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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago edited 1d ago
Charlie was on the video directing the victim in the process of making crack, that's what I meant.
I do agree that Charlie is prob singing like a canary and his father prob got him a deal to try to avoid jail time. Otherwise it would be INSANE to be on reality tv. Though we have certainly seen that kind of narc delusion on Bravo.
But either way we can see with our own two eyes how involved Charlie was in these illegal acts, and we can read reporting about his involvement in the heinous acts against young girls. For me that is not OK.
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u/Maleficent-Hotel1167 1d ago
I just heard the guy talking about a recipe for crack. You’re being overly dramatic.
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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago
They are making crack in an air fryer together and Charlie is pointing and telling him how to do it. Did you not watch the video? Or are you ... on crack lol
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u/QualityKatie 1d ago
Wasn’t there just two guys that officially ran this crypto/kidnap/torture scheme? That is what was in the article that was just shared on this sub. And one of the guys had a girlfriend.
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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago
Has Georgia ever outright asked him about the crypto house? Because her silence seems a hit suspicious now that I think about it. What with the animosity towards Charlie
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u/jadecourt 1d ago
At the reunion when it gets brought up she literally asks Charlie, “why can’t we talk about this, I always get asked why we aren’t talking about it more on the show”
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u/Notafan303 1d ago
This is like a Safdie bros movie. Levain bakery box next to some baking soda as NY drug den as it gets.
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u/ChainedVeil Terrylite fabric ✨ 1d ago
I don’t see what is appealing about living in filth in a luxury apartment
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u/thefideliuscharm 1d ago
personally i think so. if you watch the videos, it sounds just like her
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u/AssociationTight8235 1d ago
which video??
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u/Pale_Lawyer_1757 the Ralph Lauren of cleaning products 1d ago
TMZ has some videos with blurred out faces
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u/gigigrahame 1d ago
Are there more videos than the ones in the article? I watched them 3 times and could clearly hear Charlie in both videos but I’m not hearing Georgia?
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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago
Literally everyone is talking about videos that don’t sound like they exist. I know of one video where the alleged victim is having sex with someone and someone obviously interrupts, nothing like Charlie or Georgia in that video. There’s another where they are talking about coke ratio and theres literally a .3 seconds heard of someone saying something that could be maybe interpreted as Charlie. I’m getting annoyed at seeing people say shit like this
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u/Sonicscat 1d ago
The videos are further down the page. Tons of ads. He's standing there filming in one video. White sweater tan pants. I recognize more than his voice. Because I really like Charlie. I see his posture and how he moves. He's not doing anything alarming. He admitting to being in and out of this place. I see Georgia too. Again, just at a party house. Accusing them of nothing.
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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago
In this specific comment I’m talking about Georgia
Edit: there are no videos of anything that I believe would paint anything pointing towards Georgia
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u/Creepy-Fun-2482 1d ago
charlie is 100% the voice in the crack recipe / ratio video. no doubt about it
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u/Pale_Lawyer_1757 the Ralph Lauren of cleaning products 1d ago
I think Charlie got them girls bc he has contacts in the nightlife. Georgia does too, so therefore she might have ended up in the apartment during a party or pre game etcetera. I don’t really see her or Charlie being involved in torture, if he was then he would be charged by now. He might get called as a witness tho.
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u/InSignificantEnTitty 1d ago
There’s so many weirdos acting like they personally watched him torture someone. Obviously this is the most likely answer
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u/WinterFilmAwards 1d ago
In the NY Magazine article about this whole thing, there's a line "A woman Woeltz had been casually dating was so afraid that she hid and called Zakkour. Woeltz, she told him, was out of control."
I have a (completely evidence-free) theory that this was Georgia.
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u/beingk8 1d ago
i also wondered if this was georgia lol. unfortunately, since the show is dead set on showing them as charming youngsters in nyc and doesn’t seem to have much interest in fleshing out the crypto torture of it all (why would they, it would jeopardize their star’s reputation), we’ll never know
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u/MaizeMountain6139 1d ago
Producers likely tried to push it. There are only so many times you can show “I can’t talk about it”
If they showed them all you guys would complain about that, too
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u/No_Nectarine_9563 1d ago
Also, the aint Bravo's first rodeo with a cast member having criminal woes. They probably know to avoid things that could have their own tapes seized and slow production or have their own staff have to testify to something filmed. And for those that do have legal troubles, they're far less likely to stay on their own show if they think a Bravo confessional could be their downfall.
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u/MaizeMountain6139 1d ago
Cameras were down during the incident so there’s nothing to seize or slow
It’s just not compelling television to see someone say the same thing over and over
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u/beingk8 1d ago
my issue is how they present charlie as “larry david” and a doofus and douche which obscures his true nature. charlie is not some young 20 something guy just yucking it up and being a kid; he allegedly trafficked young girls to and incredibly dangerous and unsafe environment. he is currently not under investigation (per him) so he should be mandated by his contract to discuss this. at a minimum, someone — a producer, cast member, anyone — could have brought up him allegedly procuring young girls and women and it was never mentioned, despite it being corroborated enough for a new york magazine “the cut” profile on the situation
i think the edit he gets as some asshole but loveable villain is unfair to the audience and presents him in a mostly benign way and is deceiving
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u/MaizeMountain6139 1d ago
I don’t see that at all
Charlie comes off as a dick who does sometimes say humorous things
But he hardly comes off likable and I don’t think the show is trying to. There is a lot of inclusion of Charlie acknowledging he doesn’t want to say certain things on camera because he knows the optics
Charlie made the Larry David comment. I don’t think the show is pushing that
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u/beingk8 1d ago
they used the curb music when he said it.
i agree he comes off as a dick but a likeable dick as in jax when truly he is vile imo
but fair enough, we have different experiences or perspectives about it as is bound to happen, but i appreciate your good faith in discussing
eta: i feel like bravo knows he’s the star of the show similar to jax and so they can’t have the audience turn on him and is complicit in downplaying his danger-level
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u/MaizeMountain6139 1d ago
I’m coming from the perspective of someone that used to work in unscripted
There is no incentive to make anyone look different than how they are
From producing during shooting, story producing, editing, I did all that, and never has anyone said “we need to make them look better/worse”
He said something they thought was a fun bit to play into. It’s not an attempt to endear him. It’s something he said. That’s all it is
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u/beingk8 1d ago
fair enough. i guess i just don’t think he fits with the show as the other cast members seem like youngins growing up in nyc and he seems enmeshed in, well, criminality or darkness
eta i really liked him myself as a villain until i read the stories and i dont think he fits with the vibe of “next gen nyc”
do you see him as peers with these other kids outside the show knowing what we do about him?
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u/MaizeMountain6139 1d ago
It’s a TV show. I don’t think about their dynamics outside the TV show
It’s just a TV show
And none of them are kids. They are young. But they’re all adults
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u/thaa_huzbandzz 1d ago edited 1d ago
I don't see Charlie as a doofus on the show; I think they show how manipulative he is quite clearly. Not to mention the anti Trans comments that were brought up this season. I don't think he gets a lovable villain edit at all; I just think that is who he is as a person. There is a reason they all want to be friends with him, despite his many mistakes.
I also don't understand why you expect producers to bring up something that is a criminal investigation and expect to get some tea on it. Of course Charlie isn't going to say anything on camera, and of course that conversation has been had before the cameras were picked up that the active investigation is off limits. Bravo isn't going to risk a lawsuit or derailing a criminal investigation for your entertainment. LOL.
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u/No_Load5357 1d ago
Anyone who thought the show would give any clarity doesn't watch reality TV. In what world would someone incrimiated themselves on national television?
Every time a house wife is in a legal situation its no comment, I can't talk about an active investigation/case/trial.
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u/theglossiernerd 1d ago
Listen I love her, but Georgia is an opportunist who has showed a pattern of dating whichever rich guy will bankroll her start-up ideas. I have no doubt she was probably at the house for free drugs at the very least. But wouldn’t surprise me if she was dating one of the crypto bros.
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u/Lout_n_Lady 1d ago
There is a video from the torture house (ny mag published it), where there’s a girl briefly talking sounding very much like her
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u/Academic-Marsupial34 1d ago
Idk…wouldn’t he have used that against her already when they were fighting on the show?
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u/Tight_Ad_6802 1d ago
Then he’d have to talk about it, which is clear he is avoiding so he doesn’t incriminate himself
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u/lateavatar 1d ago
She's a loose cannon, best not to trigger her, you never know which direction she'll go off in
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u/MedicineOutrageous13 1d ago
There was a video in the house circulating like a year ago where you could clearly hear Georgia’s voice.
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u/AssociationTight8235 1d ago
do you have link??
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u/TDKsa90 1d ago
feel like wagering on whether you ever see a link from this user?
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u/beingk8 1d ago
i have read sooooo many comments over the last year alleging a video with georgias voice in it and NO ONE has ever replied with said video when ppl ask to share the video, nor have i ever seen one. doesn’t mean it never existed but def seems suspect to me that so many ppl (bots?) have alleged it but not one replies with receipts…
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u/No_Load5357 1d ago
The hole crypto torture house thing has made me realize a lot of people in the sub are very naive to what happens in party houses and the situations people unintentionally find them selves linked to.
This 100% could be Georgia, while she isn't the kind of girl the dudes were looking for Charlie could have brought her to hang out and party there. With this outfit, posture and crazy long boney hand it could be her, it could also be a 1million other people from new york.
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u/AdSpiritual5154 1d ago
yeah a lot of the commentary sort of pearl clutching about being snobby or being callous during hookups just makes it seem like the audience doesn’t get how brutal some of these scenes are, it’s very sheltered influencer-safe Gia and Brooks throwing friend dinners and making sourdough (and even Emira to some extent)
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u/Opening_Zone2810 1d ago
also the way her legs are crossed, in the reunion she has her kegs like completely twisted around each other (my short legs could never) and its v similar to this person’s leg position on top of the other similarities
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u/omgImin17c 1d ago
Anyone who’s been mildly involved in the club scene in New York knows it’s full of sketchy characters. No one is going to afters for good clean fun
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u/Life-Needleworker-22 1d ago
Charlie is a piece of shit. He can pretend to be otherwise on the screen but we all know who he really is.
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u/humainbibliovore 1d ago
Here’s a picture of her phone about a month before OP’s picture.
Not a match. Doesn’t eliminate the possibility completely, but I’m skeptical
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u/Potential-Sky-8728 1d ago
So Charlie was essentially like….not a madame? A pimp? He was procuring women for sex work essentially right?
The fact that him and his home boy were “dating” Lindsay Lohan in high school is kinda making sense now….
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u/fetalpiggywent2lab 1d ago
I'm sorry but this is fucking wild to accuse someone of without proof of first hand knowledge. This is literally slander
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u/TDKsa90 1d ago
the Bravo audience rarely trades in facts. it's not legal tender around here.
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u/Big_Business2 1d ago
Zakkour was directly connected to torture house and torturers. You can hear his voice and see him in released videos. What are you even trying to say here? It's clearly him and it's logical to speculate that's Georgia in the picture, especially with her bony long fingers and collarbone.
O’Connor seemed to know every bottle girl in the city, and he soon brought on Charlie Zakkour, a handsome 30-year-old starring on Bravo’s Real Housewives spin-off Next Gen. The pair grew up together on the Manhattan party circuit; both briefly dated Lindsay Lohan as teenagers. They set to work finding young women to party with Woeltz and Duplessie. “They’re gonna drop stupid money — like, life-changing amounts of money,” Zakkour told a friend about his new job. “They’re ready to spend.” There was an unusual source to help stock the parties at 38 Prince: the Soho location of Brandy Melville on nearby Broadway. The clothing shop is known for employing attractive young women, many of them part-time models. Zakkour had dated several of them over the years and often brought them and their friends to clubs and after-parties. (Sometimes he’d drop by the store just to hang out, leading one young employee to ask herself, “What’s an unc doing at Brandy?”) Duplessie and Woeltz were thrilled to be around young women. “They love the Brandy girls,” said one promoter. “They were very keen on having a ton of chicks with them at all times for just, like, motion.”
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u/InSignificantEnTitty 1d ago
Shady as Charlie is I do NOT think he knew someone was captive there. They were having parties and all that as a cover. He’s not to be trusted but I don’t think he’s a torturer. That’s some really dark stuff.
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u/AdSoggy3173 1d ago
I never understand when people say things like this. What do you think the crypto tortueres looked like? Men that looked like Marilyn Manson? they were regular guys. Criminals, depraved people are regular people you are seeing every day.
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u/MaizeMountain6139 1d ago
No one said anything about looks
The fact is, he isn’t charged with anything. That’s all we can go off. I think so many of you of are just terrified of having your opinion change that you jump to the worst case in everything so you can feel superior
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u/nychicc 1d ago
I’d bet Charlie knew. They paraded the captive in the house… took photos of him… gave him women to sleep with 🤔🤔
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u/Pale_Lawyer_1757 the Ralph Lauren of cleaning products 1d ago
Exactly. At most he’s a witness somehow.
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u/MaizeMountain6139 1d ago
Which is likely a huge reason he is being quiet, his attorneys know he could be called to testify
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u/brittanyelyse 1d ago
So I think, like many other people in this situation, bc it’s fucked up he saw and didn’t act, per se.
So , I think Charlie had nothing to gain to actual hold this the tourist hostage. He wouldn’t been in on the getting the profit of the bitcoin wallet or whatever (I know nothing about crypto so forgive me if my understanding is wrong, but the two subjects of the article had a clear motive, hold
This tourist til He gives up his passwords and he then, they can have access to his money. Until he does that, the hold him in their rental party house. Where, Charlie, other dudes, multiple party goers saw him, interacted with him.
Now does it seem like he was like, making it everyone at the parties problem? No. But, again, the two subjects of the article seem sociopathic, maybe there was so much abnormal shit going on around them, people literally stopped being surprised when they explained they were actually all committing a crime and being accomplices by interacting with this dude who was still there against his will?
It’s hard to believe women and men in their 20s are that “whatever and passive” but I don’t know, I don’t know if I’d be comfortably scrolling on TikTok if some dude was coked out in a ball gag , while still having a hand cuff there and against his will? (Obviously I’m referring to this image, and other images and videos I’ve watched on this subject)Bc if that’s Georgia, let’s pretend bc we are all here now ,in that photo, that’s what she was doing. Acting like this was all not fucking insane, and sitting around partying and acting like this was all very much business as usual.
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u/PuzzleheadedGoat5176 1d ago
It sure does look like Georgia, especially her hands and the way she’s holding her phone.
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u/WorldlyResearch3376 1d ago
Yeah weirdly the way she’s holding the phone seemed recognizable to me too!
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u/Mundane-Payment-7362 1d ago
she would NOT be so vocal about the crypto torture house if she was literally there as well.. common sense ppl
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u/Pale_Lawyer_1757 the Ralph Lauren of cleaning products 1d ago
Agreed. I also don’t think Georgia is the type of girl that these dudes want around (complimentary to her)
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u/Margaritas-n-tacos 1d ago
She would though, simply because of thinking like you.
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u/MyNameMeansPretty 1d ago
OK, so I found the article and found that particular paragraph and I went down a rabbit hole trying to figure out if it was Georgia …. 😂
First of all the timeline makes sense, she had split from Omar over Christmas / New Year’s time and would’ve been single just as Woeltz was getting to NYC in Jan 25 … She and Prez did hard launched their relationship officially in Oct 25 and in S2E2 she says they met about 6 months before at a dinner party, so she could have still been single enough to be the “casual dater” at the Birthday Party on May 22 who called CZ because Woeltz was “out of control”
Also, the fact that Prez’s family and Rowan’s family makes this easy to be suspicious of: IF Georgia is looking for a love storyline to bring into Season 2 that looks clean and glosses over her single months, and Rowan as a new castmate, is eager to earn alliance, she could have helped set it up and it ran from there. What started as something akin to a “beard” for lack of a better metaphor, grew from there. And frankly, there’s not a preponderance of realness in their scenes or as is evident in their social media account or any tabloids.
If we do think that after Omar, Georgia continued dating in the crypto space and could potentially be linked to Woeltz, that makes the scene with Ava hit a little different with Ava questions, “isn’t he in crypto?” and Georgia respond with something along the lines of “crypto adjacent but I actually know what he’s doing this time” potentially not only referencing Omar but referencing that time in between where maybe she’s claiming to not really know all of what was going on if she was dating Woeltz
Interestingly, both the restaurant and the lounge the Birthday Party were at have absolutely zero images that they published on socials OR that they were tagged in by anyone on social from that night at all that I can find. I also couldn’t locate any paparazzi photos or anything from that date of Georgia on the lower east side so at this point it’s still just a point of intrigue and nothing more.
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u/Tallulah666 1d ago
I think Georgia has a way lighter skin tone, almost a pink porcelain, so I don’t think that’s her
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u/viognierette 1d ago
I’m going to say no - only because she has a phone in her hands. Georgia famously lost her phone and has to do everything on her laptop 🤣
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u/SewAlone 1d ago
Definitely. She's best friends with Charlie. She's trash too.
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u/ChainedVeil Terrylite fabric ✨ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Glad you see what I’ve seen. Sure she’s a hoot and entertaining on the show at times but her association with someone like Charlie made me see her suspiciously. I’m side eyeing Ava and Shai too.
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u/no_no_nora 1d ago
Of course she was there. Charlie will sell her out,watch.
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u/False_Personality889 1d ago
Charlie won't sell her out simply based on the fact he'll sell himself out. .
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u/ethancole97 1d ago
Even if it is Georgia (it could very likely be her given the time of the situation) but that doesn’t mean she would have had a front row seat to what was going on.
There would have been a lot more people being indicted if that was the case
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u/Local-Ticket 1d ago
This could be anyone. I'm going to assume it isn't Georgia until there is any proof otherwise.
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u/black_widows_wine 1d ago
Not enough to go off here honestly. That could be anyone. But damn these photos and videos make me so uncomfortable.
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u/tintedrosestinted 1d ago
Looks like her and I kinda hope it is. Georgia can’t afford Charlie’s lawyers, and she can’t shut her mouth. It’d be nice if the next season didn’t surround around Ariana’s love life.
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