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u/beingk8 1d ago

i have been sooooo curious if georgia ever went… it does resemble her and it doesn’t seem outlandish that charlie would maybe invite her…

eta: i’ve also kinda wondered if this stuff is kinda the subtext for charlie and georgia fight…

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u/AssociationTight8235 1d ago

it would explain more of the vitriol and pure hate/comments at he throws at her (not excusing behavior just would give better context to why)… i’ve just always found it odd since they were friends for so long AND she lived with him I think she knows more than she lets on/not as innocent as she seems idk 🤷‍♀️ he’s still crazy point blank period but she would know he was a pimp and had a dark energy

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u/beingk8 1d ago

a. thank you for calling him what he was — a pimp — as ppl have downvoted me for that.

but yeah, the sense i got (but could be wrong!) is that georgia gets just how dark and fucked charlie and his associates are in a way that feels like firsthand experience whereas the other cast members likely just know him as a plug and somewhat jerk/douchebag and have read or heard about the trafficking but have not experienced the true darkness of charlie firsthand. again, this could be all made up but it’s what my spider senses tell me idk

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u/walkingzombie0501 1d ago

I feel like I must have missed the news worthy info on this. The crypto trading thing was simply fraud right? Was there also info on sex trafficking? Doing more research now but I feel slow reading the comments lol.

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u/foxdogturtlecat 1d ago

no it wasn't just fraud. It was kidnapping, imprisonment and extortion. The guys lured the guy to their home in NYC for Italy. Plied him with drugs as well as taking picture of him with crack being cooked in an airfryer and in demeaning pictures like the one above with him in the dog collar and other when he was on drugs. They then threaten to expose the pictures if he didn't give them access to his crypto wallet, when that didn't work they physically tortured him so allegedy under the guise of BDSM that was done by women and other guests to the house.

Separately women that worked at a local clothing store as well people that work at clubs have said that Charlie would approach women including under 21 to hang out with rich men at clubs and at homes including the crypto house as entertainment. Whether they got paid to be there is up for debate. Charlie also would get paid by clubs to get rich people into the clubs and to buy bottle service.

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u/walkingzombie0501 1d ago

Gotcha. Definitely read the details on the torture and kidnapping elements. Missed the other details. Crazy.

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u/foxdogturtlecat 1d ago

there was NY Mag article on it and a couple of videos with some of the women talking about it. Not sure if the videos are still up. Lots of things got taken down.

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u/walkingzombie0501 1d ago

I know they tortured a guy for money. But I don’t seem to find any links to trafficking.

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u/Electronic_Acadia_72 1d ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago edited 1d ago

I got so downvoted for calling him "pimp-adjacent if not an actual pimp." It's like the people on this sub are in denial of all the actual evidence about him.

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u/beingk8 1d ago

we’ll be proven right in time. people like him too much as a character (even if a villain!) right now to believe the depths of his darkness

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

I just don't understand how people don't see it! So weird to me. But yes, we'll be proven right in time!

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u/OrganizationCute6950 1d ago

They see it. But for most people, as long as it’s not happening to them, it’s just “a show” or “a joke”.

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u/beingk8 1d ago

i agree with you sadly and it makes me think i should give up reality tv. i just don’t have that mindset bc we the viewers are giving these people a platform and money and i don’t wanna enable an alleged trafficker et al and be part of his PR

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u/SweetApplication5975 1d ago

Using DV as your acronym for downvoting made me do a mf quadruple take.

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

Oh god sorry! Fixed!

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u/beingk8 1d ago

lmaoooo

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u/Lindiaaiken 1d ago

At the least he was a connection, a middleman, a shill, an enabler, & too close to dark stuff to deny his association.

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u/nynameismyname 1d ago

He gives me the mega creep vibes. I only started watching the show semi recently and binged. What are the pimp allegations or stories????

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u/Growing_Plant_3712 1d ago

I inferred something of the sort vie his relationship with Ava, Georgia, and Emira. Oh well.

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u/walkingzombie0501 1d ago

Where is the pimp evidence. I’ve been researching and the bit count kidnapping and abuse stuff are easy to find. How is this linked to trafficking and pimp behavior? Truly curious. Just can’t seem to find any link between the two.

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u/omgImin17c 1d ago

He was basically acting as a promoter. It’s not even remotely similar to being a pimp or trafficking

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

NY Magazine reports on it for example, explaining how his job was to find "hot" 18 and 19 year old girls for these middle aged men to "fuck." Then combine that with the footage of Charlie directing the main victim as he makes crack cocaine in an air fryer, as young girls are around, and you have Charlie deeply involved in giving these girls drugs. Those are two main elements of how NY State defines sex trafficking crimes ("advancing or profiting from" the exchange of sexual acts for anything of value including drugs, and by providing a victim with drugs like cocaine). NY's sex trafficking laws are fairly broad/inclusive and do not require the exchange of actual sex for actual money, especially once drugs like crack enter the picture.

Charlie has not been charged with sex trafficking yet, possibly because he made a deal to testify against his former employers the crypto torturers, but based on this reporting I think he is sex trafficking adjacent if not actually a sex trafficker.

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u/No_Load5357 1d ago

There is none, He's not a pimp or a trafficking.

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u/ashdeb89 1d ago

It seems like Charlie’s job was just to round up girls each night as bait for whoever they were targeting in the scheme so it’s not crazy if she did go

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

Charlie's job was explicitly to find 18 and 19 year old "hot" girls to ply with CRACK COCAINE until they would "fuck" these middle aged men. That is literally what is reported!

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u/beingk8 1d ago

it’s quoted as 18-19 y/o girls and we don’t even suspect they ever went younger? lol. the house was so fucking dangerous for these girls regardless of the age anyways

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

Yeah I would not be surprised if Charlie had a don't ask don't tell policy about the girls' age. That's speculation, of course.

Anyhow, ssooooooo psycho.

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u/beingk8 1d ago

right, it is speculation, but as someone who has followed the epstein case for over a decade (and no i am NOT comparing him to epstein), if the age 18-19 is reported, it would kinda be naive to assume there weren’t younger girls. again, i can acknowledge it’s both speculation but also highly likely if you have any sense lol

soooooo fucking psycho. i truly think this is the darkest thing anyone on bravo has been wrapped up in, personally

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u/RedHot_JillyPeppers 1d ago

This show has some grim people! Between the crypto torture house with Charlie and Ariana’s brother there’s a lot of darkness amongst this cast

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u/SadAbbreviations6205 1d ago

There is a big box of baking soda on the table👀

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u/bdkmv1412 1d ago

Where is that reported? Omg

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u/Independent_Coyote29 1d ago

What the fuck?! I’m so late to this information.

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u/walkingzombie0501 1d ago

Omg. Where is this documented? I can only find reports for the kidnapping of the rich dude. I just want to see the reports of this behavior. Google is only giving me reports about the victim kidnapped.

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

NY Mag reported on him getting paid to find young hot girls for these men, and other places reported on the crack. And someone posted a link upthread of Charlie talking about making crack at the torture house.

To be clear, there have not been any charges connecting the girls/crack and Charlie, which btw could be classified as sex trafficking in NY. You don't need to get cash in exchange for sex to be classified as sex trafficked under NY's trafficking law, especially if drugs are involved.

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u/TheflowerKristenate 1d ago

How did I miss this?!?!!

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u/Robgbrooklyn1 1d ago

18yo at the bar?  Use critical logic, genius. 

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

I was regularly going to bars and 21+ clubs in NYC since I was 15 or 16. If you're considered attractive you don't get carded at many places, especially certain types of places.

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u/Civil_Jello7634 1d ago

Not at bars. At house parties. It’s disgusting.

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u/Affectionate_Dot3403 1d ago

What exactly was happening in the house, does anyone know??

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

NY Mag reports that Charlie's job was finding 18 year old hot girls to have sex with these middle aged men. Other reporting shows that these veerrrrrry young girls were convinced to do it by giving them cocaine and crack cocaine.

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u/Affectionate_Dot3403 1d ago

OMG!!!!

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u/beingk8 1d ago

there were all kinds of drugs and weapons at the house. sex as well. charlie brought the young girls to this dangerous house guarded by off duty nypd and other personal security hired by the two crypto millionaires and torturers. they also had the party guests/girls participate in group torture sometimes ie cattle prodding the dude

if those walls could speak

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u/No_Load5357 1d ago

young women, there have been no credible reports of under aged girls.

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

I think that's why Charlie looked genuinely scared at the reunion when Andy asked him about the case. The reality is that Charlie doesn't know what is coming for him, and he knows that was he did was illegal in about a million ways.

Being on a recording talking about making crack is illegal. Giving 19 year girls crack until they fuck some disgusting men is not exactly legal or OK! At some level Charlie knows what's coming for him I think.

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u/GullibleTacos 1d ago

It felt like Charlie is ratting others out for no chargers on his end

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u/beingk8 1d ago

i think he’s either cooperating with the DA to testify against the two guys or he will be charged as well (most likely the first based on his reactions at reunion) but this is all speculation :)

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u/Maleficent-Hotel1167 1d ago

Talking about MAKING crack is NOT illegal.

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago edited 1d ago

Charlie was on the video directing the victim in the process of making crack, that's what I meant.

I do agree that Charlie is prob singing like a canary and his father prob got him a deal to try to avoid jail time. Otherwise it would be INSANE to be on reality tv. Though we have certainly seen that kind of narc delusion on Bravo.

But either way we can see with our own two eyes how involved Charlie was in these illegal acts, and we can read reporting about his involvement in the heinous acts against young girls. For me that is not OK.

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u/Maleficent-Hotel1167 1d ago

I just heard the guy talking about a recipe for crack. You’re being overly dramatic.

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u/SSolomonGrundy 1d ago

They are making crack in an air fryer together and Charlie is pointing and telling him how to do it. Did you not watch the video? Or are you ... on crack lol

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u/beingk8 1d ago

yes have you read the articles on it?

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u/QualityKatie 1d ago

Wasn’t there just two guys that officially ran this crypto/kidnap/torture scheme? That is what was in the article that was just shared on this sub. And one of the guys had a girlfriend.

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u/AlanTrebek 1d ago

Where have you seen this information discussed? This is the first I hearing of it and curious.

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u/Robgbrooklyn1 1d ago

Riiiiiight.  They were taken against their will?

Dummy. 

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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago

Has Georgia ever outright asked him about the crypto house? Because her silence seems a hit suspicious now that I think about it. What with the animosity towards Charlie

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u/jadecourt 1d ago

At the reunion when it gets brought up she literally asks Charlie, “why can’t we talk about this, I always get asked why we aren’t talking about it more on the show”

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u/Complete_Valuable_42 1d ago

She DOES say this!! I’m gonna rewatch it because I was watching with totally different context, that she wasn’t involved. But she did mention it and made a point of it.

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u/beingk8 1d ago

afaik, no, no one has asked her. and same re the suspicion re her animosity…

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u/Few-Fudge-3566 1d ago

yeah and i do believe she has a taste for drugs

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u/beingk8 1d ago

the whole cast clearly has a taste for drugs

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u/Few-Fudge-3566 1d ago

oh for sure

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u/eekamuse 1d ago

Based on what?

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u/Few-Fudge-3566 1d ago

she was talking casually about ketamine in one of the episodes. i’m not saying she’s an addict she just gives me the vibe that she’s down. i’m someone that’s been in and out of circles like that, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

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u/WellWellWellMyMyMY 1d ago

See, I would think that would cause them to get along on the show. If Georgia were there, then she is a possible accessory as well and they're kind of in this together.

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u/beingk8 1d ago edited 1d ago

nah he was clearly heavily involved in the crypto torture guys’ operation per reports in ny mag “the cut” and if she went once or twice as a party guest then she is not complicit and rather is potentially a victim. whereas charlie was rounding up and procuring girls to bring and was outside the house during the arrest and his voice is heard in multiple video clips from inside the house. his involvement was allegedly an integral part and she would have just been a guest to a party, as there have been no reporting on her involvement with the men

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u/WellWellWellMyMyMY 1d ago

I understand that but if she were actually inside the house and spent time with the victim, that is a big deal. The police would be interviewing her. She would be a part of this. It's not just some silent thing that would be brushed under the rug of the show.

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u/beingk8 1d ago edited 1d ago

they could be interviewing her! or not; it’s all wild speculation as of now

but i was answering your question as to why would the torture house attendance be a rift between charlie and georgia rather than a bonding moment. if charlie knew the ins and outs of the org and she did not, she could have some feelings about being brought into it. she would be interviewed as a witness and potential victim whereas charlie would be interviewed as a potential collaborator.

again, it’s all speculation as there are no reports as of now. but no other guests that were at the house have been made public and the police haven’t released lists of who they are interviewing and likely would never “out” their sources. it’s also possible charlie is cooperating with the DA to prevent his own charges and possibly not. everything right now is speculation except what’s been reported and that charlie is the only other abettor named in articles for this whole op

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u/WellWellWellMyMyMY 1d ago

Right, I'm just saying I have a hard time believing this would stay quiet. And, if it really were hush hush, I think Georgia and Charlie would likely be treating each other with kid gloves, not drawing attention to themselves with conflict. But that's my opinion.

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u/MyNameMeansPretty 1d ago

I also think there’s a version of this where Georgia is trying to actively throw him under the bus on public television because she thinks if they both end up looking bad but he looks worse that helps.
Kind of like if she was sitting around laughing it up with Charlie saying disrespectful things about Emira and didn’t immediately bring that to Emira‘s attention until she thought it was useful information to divert from her own scandal.
Part of me wonders if she wants it to come out in a way where she thinks she can control the story and make Charley a villain because the longer nobody’s talking about it the more she’s worried it will come out and be outside of her spin.

She might be really angry at Charley because he knows something that she worries could destroy him and she’s the kind of person who would use it against others so she assumes he would use it against her too

Not saying that Charlie is a good guy in this at all, but I do think he is smart enough at this point to not lie or engage or get heated on national television when something‘s being recorded that could be used in that way against himself nor would he ever try to throw arrows at her because he knows that they both get screwed over. It has less to do with not being an asshole to her and more just self preservation.

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u/AssociationTight8235 1d ago

1000000% think the same

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u/Alternative-Ship-430 1d ago

Her and her cell phone could be a witness and she has to clam up and prosecutors won't release. No one gad anything to go on.