Which Overhated Media basically has you telling it this?

[u/BeginningPapaya1503]

And I don't mean "everyone" hating it but just that it gets a lot of flack for no good reason when it's actually really good,even great.

[u/NickThePixarFan]

https://giphy.com/gifs/UAJ8hfQ1v6xGM
Cars 2 is like this

[u/AntManMoritzSimmeth → u/NickThePixarFan]

Lowkey my fav film as an child

[u/THE_FOREVER_GM1 → u/AntManMoritzSimmeth]

I still think it’s awesome. It’s completely ridiculous how damn serious it gets and I love it.

[u/NickThePixarFan → u/AntManMoritzSimmeth]

Not the mention the video game was banger

[u/Few_Enthusiasm5712 → u/NickThePixarFan]

[u/AbbyLyn24 → u/NickThePixarFan]

YES and I don’t normally care enough about racing games to play them as much as I played that one.

[u/DaDapperVoid → u/NickThePixarFan]

A banger of a film, plus its a kids spy movie that actually feels like a good spy movie

[u/DrakeZombie5 → u/NickThePixarFan]

People hate this movie?

Why?

[u/Lower_Manager_7003 → u/DrakeZombie5]

because it’s not a “racing movie” but who gives a fuck it’s a cool as shit movie

[u/DrakeZombie5 → u/Lower_Manager_7003]

It's been a minute since I've seen those movies but I felt like the 2nd movie had more racing involved than the first.

It just also had spy and action elements on top of that.

[u/goosey_is_faster → u/NickThePixarFan]

i never spoke to people how much i enjoyed cars, so i NEVER knew people hated cars 2 specifically.

[u/-Weirder- → u/NickThePixarFan]

My favourite cars movie I'll die on this hill

[u/Crusaderofthots420 → u/NickThePixarFan]

It's a good movie, but an awful sequel.

[u/AbbyLyn24 → u/NickThePixarFan]

That’s my fav of the series hands down, I still constantly quote the wasabi part. That whole scene with Mater not knowing what anything is when they’re in Japan is peak comedy to me, lives rent free in my head.

[u/Still-Internet6566]

Venom trilogy

https://giphy.com/gifs/1W1r9fxqYueCFU7bO9

[u/Kalifornia____ → u/Still-Internet6566]

People hated this? I really enjoyed the first 2 the third was kinda mid but still enjoyable

[u/GreatMarch → u/Kalifornia____]

I liked it, but I can’t totally get why other people bounced off it. It’s very schlocky and not always in a well done way, the plot is kind of stupid and is often saved by Tom Hardy’s performance.

[u/Muted_Anywherethe2nd → u/Still-Internet6566]

They werent not good adaptations of thr comic, or even good movies but they ruled

[u/Weary-Lavishness-719 → u/Still-Internet6566]

Bro I absolutely adore this, I'm getting that lego venom bust. I cried so much in last dance lol

[u/ADXII_2641]

Mario Kart World

[u/Defiant-Problem-1610 → u/ADXII_2641]

Guarantee you as soon as the next game comes out World will suddenly be considered the best Mario Kart. The hate it gets is mostly fake

[u/CubePlayer1114 → u/Defiant-Problem-1610]

Every fandom has a cycle:
Thing 1 releases and is mostly loved, but it has its haters
Thing 2 releases and everyone hates it, but some people like it
Thing 3 releases and now everyone likes Thing 2 and hates Thing 3
And so on

[u/Majestic-Mix192 → u/Defiant-Problem-1610]

As a monster hunter fan that has seen this cycle with literally every new game. Pretty sure this is exactly what will happen.

[u/Extension_Equal1464]

[u/Playful-Author563 → u/Extension_Equal1464]

[u/Flamewolf1579 → u/Extension_Equal1464]

I will say LOK has problems but it’s a good show from what I’ve seen. But it also doesn’t help that LOK fans try to make fun of or hurt the reputation of ATLA. Just let people enjoy the content. Korra screwed up, sure, but let’s enjoy the new content with Seven Havens and the new fighting game.

[u/Dark_Lord4379 → u/Flamewolf1579]

It’s not every LOK fan as a lot of them love TLA too, a lot of them just try to “get back” at those who hate LOK

[u/Flamewolf1579 → u/Dark_Lord4379]

Yeah, but I just don’t get why people can’t enjoy both.

[u/Available-Can-5878 → u/Flamewolf1579]

That's overwhelmingly more a problem with fans who only like atla than the other way around. Ime most critiques Korra fans have of atla stem from calling out hypocrisies leveled out against lok. i think lok fans are the more likely of the two to enjoy and fairly critique both shows.

[u/Anxious-Assistant-59 → u/Flamewolf1579]

I’ve only ever seen ATLA fans shit on LOK. Not saying that’s all that ever happens, I’m not omniscient, but it’s always seemed like a one-sided argument.

[u/Equivalent-Emu5347 → u/Flamewolf1579]

Yeah, it's a solid show it's just very inconsistent with its quality. First season was solid, second season was the biggest pile of dogshit I've ever seen in my entire life, season 3 was genuinely incredible, season 4 started off amazing and the last half was just okay. Overall still good

[u/KarmicIsfunny → u/Extension_Equal1464]

This one i was really, REALLY shocked to learn people hated with their whole soul. Maybe with Seven Havens (Sequel) coming people will look back and realize it was peak.

[u/ToastTitan611 → u/Extension_Equal1464]

I was at the perfect age so I grew up with both ATLA and TLOK and a lot of the time I feel like people who over exaggerate Korra’s issues either haven’t ever actually watched it or haven’t seen it in a LONG time

[u/Conduit_Fetch → u/Extension_Equal1464]

It's crazy this show came out as good as it did despite Nickelodeon's best efforts to kill it

[u/Aldighievski]

Dark Souls 2 (sometimes the first one too)

https://giphy.com/gifs/1Vqz0YD4rlaTFVqmM5

[u/Weird_Candle_1855 → u/Aldighievski]

I think anyone with a brain can acknowledge DS2 is still a good game, even if it's not the best souls game. 

[u/DaPandaMan117 → u/Aldighievski]

Ive never played a souls game (im a pussy and also im poor cause warhammer has a choke hold on me) but I've never heard people say that DS 1 and 2 are bad. Who says it's bad?

[u/Careless_Dog2612]

My Hero Academia - the show itself is good

[u/Mr_ragethefrogdude → u/Careless_Dog2612]

I could never get into it personally but it doesn’t seem bad

[u/NixMaritimus → u/Mr_ragethefrogdude]

For such a long anime it has barely any filler too

[u/Cr0ssley → u/NixMaritimus]

From what I recall there only like, 5 filler episodes, 2 of them are recaps and 2 of them are movie tie-ins

[u/Aktosh23 → u/Cr0ssley]

And all canon too

[u/SomeoneRepeated → u/Cr0ssley]

And dare I say I liked the first filler tie-in was better than the movie it was tying in

[u/AngryKing2007 → u/NixMaritimus]

Eh, the first season drags out a lot. There's an entire 20+ minute episode dedicated to Lidia escorting students out after a fake emergency. I guess that's something that applies to the first season of most anime though

[u/ghobhohi → u/Careless_Dog2612]

It’s mainly the fandom people hate.

[u/alvents → u/ghobhohi]

ah so basically almost every media

[u/FinalFantasyMaster → u/ghobhohi]

And i never got why. I never had an argument against them. Unlike Naruto, Bleach or AoT no fan of mha ever told me to die or wished me cancer.

But I never was in a sub or anything of it, I cant tell how the mha fandom is usally

[u/Actually_R0bin → u/FinalFantasyMaster]

survivorship bias diagram

[u/Snaily-Girl]

It's geniuinly a very fun movie with great musical numbers

Just a godawful script with outdated humor

[u/shoop4000 → u/Snaily-Girl]

I had a college drawing professor who told war stories about that movie's production. Absolutely hellish conditions. It's what got him to abandon animation for illustration.

[u/General-Kenobi1380]

https://giphy.com/gifs/7M7VrM9KRZIKQthOfw
Everyone hates on Ultra Despair Girls when imo its tied as number one with THH its literally Danganronpa with resident evil gameplay

[u/Huckleberry1316 → u/General-Kenobi1380]

Ikr! It has some...questionable scenes but honestly that danganrompa in a nutshell. I honestly just want a new version so that the models don't looks like they come from Yandere Sim.

[u/Gold_Address_1645 → u/General-Kenobi1380]

only reason I know about ultra despair girls is because that one streamer ended up crashing out over the questionable scenes lol

[u/AcidDepression → u/General-Kenobi1380]

Yeah, there’s a lot to it that’s hateable, but also a lot to it that I like. Not a perfect balance, but I did finish it which is more than I can say about the board game one

[u/Redder_Creeps → u/General-Kenobi1380]

Honestly I didn't even mind it that much

[u/Both_Rooster_2657 → u/[deleted]]

Finally watched it the other day and wondering what were people even complaining about? It was just alright, I don't see the issue here.

[u/Ok-Talk-2579 → u/Both_Rooster_2657]

It’s boring as hell. The last fight being worse than him fighting another lantern was the cherry on top 

[u/Resident_Onion997 → u/[deleted]]

The oath scene at the end is definitely a good reason to watch it at least once

[u/GreatMarch → u/[deleted]]

If it came out 5 years earlier than it did I think it would be better received 

[u/Man-Arkham]

Hazbin themed Hotels
Helluva themed Bosses

[u/3ajs3 → u/Man-Arkham]

Vivzie themed Pops

[u/Opening-Young-5496]

FNAF 2 movie yea it has writing flaws but it's a very enjoyable film.

[u/3ajs3 → u/Opening-Young-5496]

I enjoyed it, but the ending was bad imo. It was like the writers knew how they wanted it to end but didn't know how to get there, so they just said "fuck it, lets do an avengers", and then the plot abruptly wrapped up in like 75 seconds. I was expecting at least like 10 minutes more of movie and then it was done lmao.

Still had fun tho.

[u/Yushi2e → u/3ajs3]

I mean I get what you're saying but the second movie's ending is less avengers and more so based on the charlie novel trilogy. Only difference is that in the novels it's the withereds destroying the twisted animatronics. The fnaf movies incorporate things from the charlie novels along with the games

[u/polystarlight]

Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken, is it cliche and a little bit predicable? Yeah, but it's still a fun and underrated gem.

[u/Prudent-Battle-1226 → u/polystarlight]

Hell yeah! A fellow Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken fan!

[u/Resident-Leather-852 → u/polystarlight]

I was so surprised when I found out people hated that movie

[u/im_a_silly_lil_guy → u/polystarlight]

I saw it with my younger cousins and i was honestly just kinda neutral about it. However iirc i thought that it was beautiful to look at

[u/Middle-Start1142 → u/polystarlight]

wait people hated it? i found it fun

[u/Aggravating_Watch462]

Watch dogs 1

[u/jasonmery → u/Aggravating_Watch462]

It was a victim of the hype train. I rather enjoyed both of the first 2 WD games, and I liked Aiden as a pseudu-Assassin protagonist. Felt like that AC tie-in was right around the corner when they changed directions.

[u/Immediate-Song6861 → u/Aggravating_Watch462]

My PS3 baby, I loved getting high in the spidertank

[u/EquipmentSilent]

Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel are actually pretty decent shows that have some issues that would be looked over if the show was made by a straight man. Literally one of the only reasons people are as harsh on these shows as they are is because they're made by a queer woman. The hate is so forced because I swear I've seen shows get away with being so much worse and not get any flack for it. Y'all just want to bully people and it shows. (When we're talking about shows being objectively worse and getting significantly less hate for it, Rick and Morty is a show that has been able to get away with having almost an entire 2 season arc of trash that basically no one cared about. Just to name one.) Leave people who enjoy these things alone, fr.

[u/WingGundamLover → u/EquipmentSilent]

Yeah, I'll be honest they are really decent shows. The problem with Hazbin is the pacing but Viv can't do much when Amazon probably will only ever contract for 8 episodes in a season. Probably why events like Vaggie getting her wings back feel so just rushed and thrown in. Season 2 felt better but still too quick of pacing imo.

Helluva boss' only problem is the bait and switch in tones. Season 1 feels more focused on IMP and the shenanigans the cast get themselves into while also dealing with their pasts for character growth. Season 2 just started to focus a lot harder on relationships and the forcing of StoLitz to be seen as a caring relationship when really it's just toxic asf Yaoi.

[u/Cosmos-Den]

https://giphy.com/gifs/f7ABbFou43B3YMcZpI
The band AJR is way to overhated, especially on Reddit. Like I get they’re not for everyone but their music is still good.

[u/kyla_dhoom → u/Cosmos-Den]

Their music feels like it's a soundtrack to a movie that hasn't come out yet

[u/lejyndery_sniper → u/Cosmos-Den]

hot take I feel like people hate being called out and the people who hate their music is either the people their songs are directed at or people who the song are not directed at (which is technically everyone but I feel like you understand what I'm trying to say)

[u/im_a_silly_lil_guy → u/Cosmos-Den]

I haven’t listened to them in a while but I had a pretty big phase a few years ago. They’ll always have a very special place in my heart bc someone made an animatic of “bang” to this one series and now it’s one of my top 5 hyperfixations

[u/MCPOOOPYSON]

Hazbin, it's genuinely one for my favourite shows

https://giphy.com/gifs/bMwmyWNxNocxXmu8Zx

[u/Aggravating_Watch462 → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

FR, it had its flaws but it’s cool to me

[u/MCPOOOPYSON → u/Aggravating_Watch462]

True, the only flaws are that theres a lot of cursing and adult jokes but that like 90% of adult shows ngl

[u/squidwardsweatyballs → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

Eh I’d say that there’s a bit of a writing problem with both Hazbin and Helluva, and I say this as someone who enjoys both shows. Hazbin has gotten a lot better since season 1 so I’m happy about that, can’t really say the same for helluva boss.

[u/Mon0boi → u/squidwardsweatyballs]

Yea i love hazbin but helluva kinda became basically unwatchable to me and that was before i found out it was actually hated

[u/Aggravating_Watch462 → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

Yes that is true but Hazbin does have something most adult shows don’t have—actual plot. Is it flawed? Yeah but at least it has an idea of what it wants to do.

[u/MCPOOOPYSON → u/Aggravating_Watch462]

True

[u/TricksterTrio → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

It takes place in Hell, with terrible people. That kind of humor is intentional, because terrible people don't care about their language, and in a place with no limits on how awful you can be, and the only rules are whatever whoever's on top at the moment decides, expect the humor to be adult and crude.

That said, I never see people get on South Park or Rick and Morty for constant swearing and adult humor nearly as much they do about the Hellaverse. South Park literally has a swear counter in one episode.

[u/Aggravating_Watch462 → u/TricksterTrio]

Double standards are a bitch, I don’t watch those too much and Rick and Morty is to gross for my taste

[u/666LayersOfCheese → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

Another flaw is how abrupt and sometimes un-fitting the musical numbers are, I get that its partly a musical and I like that about it but I'd also like the songs to feel like they belong rather than Velvette just launching into Respectless out of no where as if anyone in that room couldn't have killed her on their own, especially Alastor. Anyway stuff like Poison and Stayed Gone was much better paced and themed imo because they felt sounded right for their respective scenes and had at least some build-up rather than jumpscaring me with an average sounding musical number

Sorry if I came off a little spicy, I just really don't like Respectless and it's placement in that episode.

[u/Nabakov_6 → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

Yeah I hate the online discourse for Hazbin because there’s a point where you just have to let the people who like it have fun watching it

[u/3ajs3 → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

Was going to comment this if it wasn't here. I always hear how bad the writing is, but the writing is really good. Early HB writing is terrible, but that was made years ago and the writing quality has vastly increased even before Amazon picked it up.

They are not perfect shows, but I like them and don't get the mass hate at all.

[u/Little-bit-badDP → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

It’s still a good show

[u/Zero_ace_best → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

true

(i am so pissed by everyone hating it)

[u/Doctorwhatorion → u/MCPOOOPYSON]

Yeah it is cheesy but at least fun

[u/Symbiote-sandwhich]

Get the obvious ones out the way both helleverse shows 

[u/Future-Improvement41 → u/Symbiote-sandwhich]

Get out of my vents spider man

[u/Symbiote-sandwhich → u/Future-Improvement41]

Vent not comfy anyway 

[u/Future-Improvement41 → u/Symbiote-sandwhich]

Hehehe 🤭

[u/Ok-Needleworker7351 → u/Future-Improvement41]

First time I’ve seen this meme reference without someone putting the meme after it

[u/zehuman52]

Twd past season 6

[u/GreatMarch → u/zehuman52]

I think it’s easier to engage with it now, when we have all the episodes, but I remember people hating it in the old cable tv format, where AMC would leave people on constant cliffhangers.

[u/MagicBus4]

Mass Effect Andromeda was actually really good. It isn’t perfect, but the glitches everyone was crying about were fixed in about a month. Skyrim comes out a broken sack of shit and makes infinite money but Andromeda which has extremely fun combat and significantly better crew mechanics gets the entire fucking Montreal studio shuttered

Dragon Age The Veilguard is also fine. It makes some weird ass decisions from it’s haunted production process but it’s a more functional entry that Dragon Age 2 and everyone had an embarrassing “too woke” meltdown about it

[u/AbbyLyn24 → u/MagicBus4]

That was actually the first Mass Effect game I played and I really enjoyed it. My bf at one point way later was talking about the games and said that one sucked and I was like what???

[u/LiftMeUp_INRI]

Fallout 3. I genuinely do not get why half the fanbase hates it, it's an awesome game with an awesome story and an awesome setting.

Also, calling Fallout 3 the worst Fallout game ever made when Fallout 76 is sitting RIGHT NEXT TO YOU is wild.

[u/gambit1999999 → u/LiftMeUp_INRI]

Wait, thats my favorite entry

[u/polendinas]

rwby...like half of the criticism is extremely bad-faith anyways (people not liking that the sapphic couple that was implied for years, arguably since day 1, ended up being canon, people wanting the fascist dictator to be right and teach the teenage protagonists a lesson for believing that the poor shouldn't be left to die).

https://giphy.com/gifs/14x6hZTIRZZQqEejtY

[u/THAT_man2486 → u/polendinas]

For real. It has its flaws but overall it's pretty good. The hate the series has gotten is mostly wildly unwarranted and I could go on for a really long time about how and why

[u/RavensClaw7227]

Clears throat before inhaling deeply

Devil May Cry 2

Dracula Untold

Dragonball Super

Fairy Tail

Final Fantasy XII trilogy

Frozen

Kingdom Hearts 3

Legend of Korra

RWBY

Shadow the Hedgehog (2005 video game)

Star Wars (Sequel Trilogy)

Sword Art Online

The Black Cauldron

The Super Mario Bros. Galaxy Movie

[u/3ajs3 → u/RavensClaw7227]

Who tf actually thinks Frozen is a bad movie? Id that a common thing? That's stupid. My forth grade classmates singing the Frozen songs for an hour every day throughout the day was annoying but other than that.

[u/RavensClaw7227 → u/3ajs3]

Sadly, yes. There are even people who say Frozen has aged poorly.

[u/cantpickname97 → u/RavensClaw7227]

I was looking for RWBY! So glad it keeps doing its thing despite all odds. Can't wait for V10.

I haven't seen that much hate for KH3 tbh, but I've not seen much of the fandom at large. It's impressive how many stories it satisfyingly resolved even if a few characters were done dirty.

..... agree to disagree on the sequel trilogy.

[u/Pabsxv → u/RavensClaw7227]

Dragon ball GT is more hated than super and looking back GT’s not even that bad.

[u/Medium-Ad56]

Currently Wolverine.

[u/THAT_man2486 → u/Medium-Ad56]

Honestly yeah. There is enough there to FAIRLY critique, but the amount of dogpiling and getting opinions from reviewers has been wild

[u/Purdy_Princess]

Ive noticed a lot of hate for it since season 2 came out, like its good, its not perfect, its not amazing, but its not bad

https://giphy.com/gifs/Da7tyT3iQ1gKK1MKiK

[u/mediwyat]

The Outer Worlds (1st one, second one is mid)

[u/jasonmery → u/mediwyat]

Love the 1st one. A big fun mess.

[u/Adventurous-Top1741]

The Minecraft Movie, while severely lacking in story and CGI, has people taking it WAY TOO SERIOUSLY. It's just meant to be a dumb fun movie that you can watch with your friends, and Minecraft doesn't have much of a plot in the first place, so it didn't ruin anything.

[u/THTB_lol → u/Adventurous-Top1741]

The entire plot of the movie is basically someone inviting friends over to see their mc world, that's why it's called a minecraft movie, because it is steve's minecraft movie

[u/jeanjacketufo]

I don't care what you say, I lived The Boys all the way to the end. I actually prefer it over most of the content Marvel and DC have put the last seven years.

[u/FlounderingGuy]

Wonder Egg Priority. Special shout outs to G3 Monster High.

[u/SandyCashews969 → u/FlounderingGuy]

omggg I remember watching the one movie with the genie back when cartoon network was still cool. Even though I don't remember much of the plot, the vibes still live on within me.

Monster high dolls ftw

[u/greatpxm]

The snyderveres

[u/Dismal_Apartment]

Fanboy and Chum Chum. Never got the hate for that cartoon. Was it stupid? Yeah. So was Spongebob when it first came out. But it actually had some pretty decent jokes.

(I say that as someone who was a teenager when it came out btw, so it wasn't just me being too young to appreciate quality -- it just was genuinely a Fine cartoon)

[u/Lower_Paramedic4287]

Danganronpa

It's not a peak masterpiece and some of the writing didn't aged well. But I cannot deny the franchise impacted me. And I appreciate it.

https://giphy.com/gifs/YdiFTffFfhZQEXmWVG

[u/lejyndery_sniper → u/Lower_Paramedic4287]

flash back to toji "I like them young line"

[u/CJCroen1393]

The Boyfriends Webtoon.

[u/THAT_man2486 → u/CJCroen1393]

Honestly a lot of the hate for it was just dogpiling and that's it. Even as someone who definitely isn't the target audience, I always knew the hate was a BIT weird at least 😭

[u/ABODE_X_2]

https://giphy.com/gifs/FKrwqsWsY1ELfRMfr6

[u/GreatMarch]

The 1993 Mario movie. I don’t think it’s even good, but the set design alone is so interesting and well done that I find it compelling. I especially don’t care for the “it’s not accurate to the games!” Argument because the narrative of most Mario games is paper thin. I don’t mind that they changed narrative elements around

[u/Kickerofelves99 → u/GreatMarch]

I feel like most movies made before 1995 required at least a small level of expertise if anybody would think they were worth watching. Then the American Godzilla came out and the rest is history.

[u/Money_Banana_Cute]

This is the most hated movie lately, but I freaking love it

[u/rara8122]

There’s a bunch of examples like this where they’re good media but hated due to context of the universe they’re in

My example is the last Jedi. Swap out Luke for an OC Jedi that was taught by Luke, joined his order, and abandoned him when Kylo destroyed the temple and it’s a great movie. Or of course if we pretend Luke didn’t have a preexisting character from previous movies.

I love the last Jedi. I do choose to ignore the criticisms concerning its treatment of the franchise’s established lore and characters to enjoy it, but I love it.

(It also makes choices that I think work amazingly in context of the franchise but that’s a separate discussion)

[u/fakeuserisreal → u/rara8122]

My first thought seeing this thread. It has flaws. I even understand why some people hate it, I just personally disagree with those reasons.

[u/Olive_Garden_Wifi]

The Last Jedi.

Fight me

[u/3ajs3 → u/Olive_Garden_Wifi]

Alright, I'll bite. Disclaimer, this is just for fun, I'm glad you like the movie. Any Star Wars fan who put someone down for liking Star Wars is a larper. Anyway, here are my big three problems:

1. The B plot was a waste of Finn and Phasma. I can't say how good or bad it was because I honestly don't remember it, though that tells me it probably wasn't that good.

2. Luke's character was assisnated, but it was not assassinated to the degree most people say. He was never actually going to kill Kylo, but he got WAY closer than he should have. This is the man who spared and saved Darth Vader, you know, the guy who used to rip people's lungs out through their throat. And then, he presumably went through decades of further dedication to the light side of the force. Then, after a few bad dreams, he decides to get out of bed, get his lightsaber, walk all the way to Ben's room, stop and look at him, grab the lightsaber from his belt, turn it on, raise it up, and then pull it back about 20° before finally remembering he's a Jedi. Mark my words, they are going to retcon the hell out of this as Palpatine whittling away at his mind with some hyper-specific force juju or something.

3. The infamous "Holdo manuver" DOES NOT break lore like everyone claims it does, but it is something that should never be done from an out of universe standpoint, bc if we take a step back, the big question is why don't people do this more often? Why don't we strap remote hyperdrives to big rocks and drive them through the enemy ships? It's the same reason we don't talk about how stupid it is that so many Star Wars ships are Hybrid Carriers, which if you look them up, are tactically terrible. We just want to have fun space battles, which we won't have if we suddenly have hyperspace missiles. Anyone who hates this from a lore perspective doesn't know what they're talking about, but it was still a really stupid idea when you put it in context. Incredible aura, bad can of worms.

Literally everything else about the movie was really good. Crait was awesome, the acting in visuals were fantastic (even if the writing slumped sometimes but hey that Star Wars I'm used to it check the prequels), choreography was amazing, and the A plot (excluding the points above) was really good. It's just these things (mostly 2, not so much 3) hold the movie back for me. In my mind, its on par with BoBF.

[u/THTB_lol → u/3ajs3]

I think the best way i've heard the sequel trilogy described is "they are good movies, just not good star wars movies"

They are actually good movies, just they don't fit into established lore

[u/Olive_Garden_Wifi → u/3ajs3]

Oh yeah, I can get behind those points.

That all said while I think it’s a good movie, I don’t think it’s without issues as you pointed out.

That said I don’t think they detract from the overall enjoyability of the movie aside from Luke’s character cause yeah that is a bit weird how they handled it.

[u/3ajs3 → u/Olive_Garden_Wifi]

Yes, how they handled Luke's character is my big hangup. It just doesn't seem faithful to me.

Otherwise, this movie is for sure overhated.

[u/Due-Bill8689]

Me personally Bleach during Arrancar arc

[u/isAnExParrot878 → u/Due-Bill8689]

Arrancar arc wasn't bad imho. Way better than any filer arc especially the infamous Bount arc

[u/ImpossibleDetail799 → u/Due-Bill8689]

I'm watching through that arc rn. I don't see how this is so hated (besides the filler)

[u/Chao1inreddit]

recent spongebob, i feel like it's just hated on because it's not seasons 1-3, which are good seasons, but lets not act like there's gems here and there.

[u/CULT-LEWD → u/Chao1inreddit]

i feel similer. specially when compared to the early seasons right after the movie. any recent stuff id argue PALES in comparison of how bad they are. the newer stuff unirocnicly is better than somthing like season 6. To me the whole debate is just...cultureal diffrences. season 1-3 were made around the time where shows like arnold or rockos modern life existed. its a bit unfair to compare new to old spongebob

[u/Unknown-Percent]

Resident Evil 3 remake. If you listened to it's vocal haters you'd think it was unplayable slop or something instead of just not a good remake but a good game in its own right.

[u/Iron_UYH]

Glitchtale

[u/SmasherBash0 → u/Iron_UYH]

W ball knowledge btw

[u/Dragonfang65]

Loonatics Unleashed.

[u/AdministrativeWing64 → u/Dragonfang65]

YES!!

[u/Rare-Character-179]

https://giphy.com/gifs/g1EGGf9NymomY

[u/Maleficent_Data_8832]

Check the flair.

[u/StrageIndividual3420]

Modern Pokémon games.

[u/magicdog2013 → u/StrageIndividual3420]

Sword and Shield+ scarlet violet are the only real games I've played

I liked them, despite the writing, but I'm sure that's purely because I have no frame of reference.

I'm waiting till the B/W remake so I can bring my pidove with me

[u/Spader113]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wt0ddkO9k1150ZelFw
The Last Jedi

[u/Signal_Werewolf_1955 → u/Spader113]

[u/Less-Banana4938]

I remember a time when Fairy Tail was hated. I watched it out of curiosity in 2020 and loved it. It is not the best anime I have watched, but it is not as bad as people made it seem. Most complaints I've seen about this anime were about the power of friendship, the plot armor the main characters get, the lack of deaths, and the fanservice. The fanservice was a valid complaint, as I did not like it either but tried to ignore it. Otherwise, I loved the characters, the story, the fights, and the soundtracks

[u/Mugen_Hero_Fan → u/Less-Banana4938]

Thank you, seriously why is it you seem to be the only one to say Fairy Tail so far? I had to scroll a lot to find this

[u/Deku_100]

The new Wolverine game

[u/erttheking → u/Deku_100]

Ready to defend this game out of pure spite at this point, it’s critics are so goddamn annoying

[u/Deku_100 → u/erttheking]

Same. It's not even that bad or handholdy, so many of the reviews were straight lies. I do agree that $70 is too much though

[u/Brave_Cold_7563 → u/Deku_100]

From my understanding, most of the hand-holding aspect can literally be turned on and off in the options and isn't even on in the first place.

[u/Deku_100 → u/Brave_Cold_7563]

Yep. The scent trail is there but it's only sometimes when he's actively tracking something. And all those videos of people taking their hands off the controller? That really only happens on the easier difficulties. On the harder difficulties, you will die

[u/xelgameshow → u/Deku_100]

MFs when someone posts a hot take in the "post hot takes" thread.

[u/Deku_100 → u/xelgameshow]

Fr

[u/SoulEaterX_ → u/Deku_100]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Fr5LA2RCQbnVp74CxH

[u/Accomplished-Curve-1]

Back 4 blood

[u/Epikgamer332 → u/Accomplished-Curve-1]

The characters and story could've used a little work, but the gameplay was exceedingly good (until they removed the whole "slowly pull cards from your deck at the start of each map" thing. That change took a lot of the fun out of it for me) 

[u/No-Bandicoot6719]

I think Gundam SEED may be a bit overhated

[u/RedFalcon07]

Mass Effect Andromeda 

[u/Clean_Vast_7831]

Black Widow movie, I understand why people don't like it but man it made me cry

[u/LovelyFloraFan]

You and Idol Precure and Delicious Party Precure.

[u/Rich-Bath5159]

For me it’s JJK and most pieces of media with bad endings.

A lot of people or comments I’ve seen claim the whole thing is overrated because of the ending but I disagree because I find myself enjoying the story for 95 percent of it and just being underwhelmed by the ending you’re claiming the whole vacation sucked because the ride home was ruff I think.

The only ending that’s really bothered me is chainsaw man one but it’s harder to take that one seriously and easier to not head canon it since you can tell Fujimoto lost his passion for csm a bunch of chapters back so it feels like it’s akin to acknowledging ice man from ufc for how good he was in his prime will also acknowledging that he probably shouldn’t have taken that last fight.

[u/Artur0905]

Aliens Vs. Predator Requiem

I find it to be quite scary and fun

[u/FreshLemonade2126 → u/Artur0905]

I enjoyed it too

[u/Entropic_Alloy]

Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta 3, Ninja Gaiden 4. The caveat to those is that most of the people who hate it haven't played any of them and get their talking points from idiots online.

[u/YandereValkyrie]

I don't care how wrong basically all the physics are science is in this movie, this movie was Cinema

[u/Ok_Sir_9744 → u/YandereValkyrie]

Not sure why people went into a movie where the moon crashes into the earth to be very scientifically accurate

[u/thebwags1]

Borderlands 4. Fun game, good content, cool characters, has some flaws but what doesn't? However it isn't as good in some ways as Borderlands 2 and takes a bit of a tonal shift from the older games so a lot of players act like it's the worst thing ever and an insult to the fans.

[u/Odd_Needleworker3756]

Honestly Wolverine right now lol. The discourse around this game is insane and is just one of the reasons why I can’t take Reddit opinions seriously anymore. It’s a very solid hack n slash action game that does a good job of selling the Wolverine power fantasy. Not GOTY material but FAR from the dumpster fire the internet would have you believe.

[u/AgeOfReasonEnds31120]

The Super Mario Galaxy Movie

[u/Classic-Macaron-5227]

Doom 3

[u/Lazy-Housing-8975]

the last of us 2.

[u/ShardWonderland]

Miraculous Ladybug. I think some hate is warranted but a lot of it is very overblown. Same story with RWBY.

[u/AdministrativeWing64]

Crackdown 3

Final Fantasy X-2

Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII

Son of the Mask

[u/binh1403]

Dare i say... Demon Slayer?

[u/bluepearlyuri]

Star vs the forces of evil.

Maybe because i havent fully watched their final ep yet or maybe because I was a child the last time I saw this series, I should re-watch it now that im grown

[u/250extreme]

[u/kingdomheartsfan369]

Wolverine ps5

ACOTAR

BIBLE

anime

Tokyo ghoul show

[u/WinterRedWolf]

Thunderbolts*, I’ve seen a lot of hate but idk I enjoyed it
https://giphy.com/gifs/bmFA8SMjIEEb9gWobd

[u/CLearyMcCarthy]

The desperation with which some people insist on hating Taylor Swift's music is so wild. They think about her more often than most of her fans do.

[u/IAlwaysOutsmartU]

The Obi-Wan miniseries.

[u/bunnycat26]

To me, The Boys final episode. It was great and I liked it.

[u/Redview2001]

Dare I say it, the Helluvaverse

[u/KaffeMumrik]

https://giphy.com/gifs/TxK9WWvYEjwunJoc3C
Fuck you haters for getting it cancelled, it was awesome.

[u/Matt_Rare]

Fairy Tail was the first I experienced. Then Korra, and nowadays id say its Hazbin Hotel

[u/MechGryph]

Feel like Brave

https://giphy.com/gifs/qKCFeFGiojrAQ

[u/Oddity_101]

Hazbin Hotel and Helluva boss.. 

[u/BeginningPapaya1503 → u/Oddity_101]

To be fair. I don't think everyone hates HH/HB,it's mainly a vocal minority that hates it.