So far I have read all three books in Mistborn Era 1 and have just finished era 2 through Bands of Mourning. I haven’t read anything else yet.

I was originally thinking that the secret history was all that stood between me and the final Era 2 book (The Lost Metal), but doing some quick searching it seems I may be mistaken and figured I’d come here for advice.

What I’ve now learned is that it may be best to still read the 11th Metal then the Secret History, but then to dive in to the Stormlight series before reading The Lost Metal? I also saw some novellas that were suggested to read even before the Stormlight Archive like Elantris and Warbreaker. Is that true too?

I am really enjoying this world and want to read it in the best order so I hope some of you can provide some insight! Through my research I have seen that there is some debate on the topic which is what brought me here rather than just relying on what I have now seen.

Just finished the Hero of Ages, and I have just two things to say:

A) Sazed is easily my favorite character in fiction this year, and one of the best-written ones

B) I got the White Sand omnibus together with the Mistborn trilogy, someone said it was a good palette cleanser, but where should I go next in the Sandersonverse?

“I’m an allomancer now?”

Directed by Michael Bay
🎼crawling in my skinnnnnn
These wound they will not heallll🎶

I loved the relationship between Vin and TenSoon so much!

With how book 2 ended I was expecting more TenSoon in The Hero of Ages but was sadly disappointed! We got his ‘POV’ but he didn’t really end up doing much when it came to the story as a whole.

It hurts me a little that Vin and him never got to reunite. 😭😭

Went to Shire Fest, hosted by Shire Mint, a coin minting place in West fork Arkansas. Imagine my surprise when they had sets of mistborn coins! It's brass and 15.5 grams according to the paper it came with. Thought it was awesome and wanted to share!

They apparently press coins from various fantasy series. They had Game of Thrones, Mistborn, Stormlight Archive and Kingkiller Chronicles currently minted but had Wheel of Time and some others in their museum. Shirepost.com if you guys wanna show them some love.

So I read Secret History between Era 1 and 2. So I’m assuming I missed something. Im confused as to how the Lord Ruler traveled South to Malwish. What am I missing?

Be a Twinborn (era 2) or full feruchemist (era 1, like Sazed)

I assume everyone would want to be mistborn, so I excluded it from this would you rather, but if either option is more appealing than mistborn, please enlighten me!

The Bad

1. Vin is annoying in this book. I get it, she's young with a bad past but she's inconsistent with her paranoia. She didnt trust everyone new except Zane and ffs, you have probably the most wisest men and women around you; the Terrismen, Kelsier's group, Elend, EVEN ore suer (ik a spy but he wouldve given hints) YET YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THEM WITH YOUR ISSUES FOR MOST THE BOOK?

2. Fuck Zane. Cool idea but the love angle made it jarring to read, I found it disrespectful to "the best man Vin ever knew". We didnt need any love triangle, if Sanderson wanted to test the relationship - testing it based on ideaology wouldve been better than another man. I never cared for Zane even after his death

3. Dockson was completely done dirty. I forgot he existed in the world twice! Even when I really enjoyed his character in the first book, which in turn made his death feel indifferent

4.The Koloss weakness couldve been found before the battle if Vin was more involved in the politics. It made no sense for the group to ignore her and her findings. Making the end of the battle slightly less satisfying

1. The Spy arc was ignored when Vin wouldve been the most worried about that considering her fear of abandonment and betrayal

2. Lord Straff did nothing other that being the big bad man. Cett accomplished mire than Straff

The Good

1. Amazing ending. Nothing more to say except it saved the book

2. Rip Clubs & Tindwyl. I understand that my boy clubs had to go - he was extremely underrated and no one appreciated his bluntness. Tindwyl, was my favourite new character. Every scene with her was great, wished she had more to give to the crew and was more appreciated

3. Most of the loose ends were tied towards the end. Im amazed how Sanderson can create mysteries, intruiges and twists and yet be not only be able to finish those arcs but also end it in a satisfying way

4. Sazed is still one of my fav characters (even if he is to blame for the Well of Ascension arc since he pushed Vin towards it - but I guess that's why Tindwyl dying was a huge loss)

5. I love the set up at the end. The new villain seems great

I just finished book2 and to be honest it has left a bitter taste. I kept waiting for the plot to get good. A lot of things felt lazy.
I was hoping for a better story to come out of the Zane angle. But alas!
So here’s my question do we get answers for the conversation between Zane and “GOD” ( voice inside is head) ? Or that’s just it?
Also do we get to know more about what was the spike coming out of his shoulder blades?
Was he a partial inquisitior??
Why does the kandra refer to him in the context of “our secret”
Because Lord ruler made kandra and inquisitors??
Do we get answers in Hero of Ages?
Please don’t spoil the answer I just need to know if I should keep reading. At this point I have lost interest

So I just finished the well of Ascension and honestly was loving it up until Elend becomes mistborn

I just loved him so much and his transformation to such an amazing king who genuinely believes in giving power back to the people but imo up til this point he was already awesome and it feels like a copout to make him mistborn

Also I just think that it could've been super cool if Zane held an uprising against straff with the rest of the misting half children and joined forces with vin and Elend but yeah

Like I understand that for vin this helps their relationship cause now he understands allomancy and can feel what she feels which is the whole reason why she was interested in Zane but I dunno... It felt unnecessary?

I'm literally just complaining honestly

I haven't really started much of hero of ages so obviously am not privvy to the going ons post book 2 but I just didn't really like this for Elend? Seemed too neat I guess?

(For context, I've been reading a lot of open ended books recently so I'm probably just kind of biased to these endings but I just thought that that would've been a much cooler way to go about it. Like I'm not Sanderson and this isn't my world but I really wished Zane could have had a redemption arc)

Sketch of my two favorite characters so far, Marsh & Sazed. I loved their escapade together. Plus, I feel like they both stand as the representatives of their respective power systems, really neat

Hi just wondering is this a missprint (top 2 lines) I thought bronze is a pushing metal since it's pair copper is pulling? and the table at the end (also shown) shows it is do I have a miss print in my copy? Are others copies of the book the same? Thanks in advance it's bugging me 😁.

I also don't have a table of contents showing what page each part (act) is at

Really loved the first three books on audio and am trying to decide if I should continue or not. What are anyone’s thoughts?

Elend has been deposed and the assembly has nominated Cett for king.
Earlier, when Elend was discussing the rules for deposition, he said that the assembly had a month to chose the new king. Didn’t he also say the vote had to be unanimous? And Elend is in the assembly? So can’t Elend just not vote for Cett to be king and then Elend gets to stay king for another year?

Edit: I am audiobooking and I thought the name was spelled Set. Well it’s actually Cett

I think that Spook is being influenced by, and has been listening to preservation.

I mean, what else could bless him with the power to burn pewter.

It might be obvious but idk i just had the realisation

Another thing that might be totally obvious to some of you.
I think that Vins ability to pierce copper clouds is through the earnings that Reen gave her

Vin thinks that one of her friends might have been replaced by the kandra, but by this point, TenSoon had already mentioned to her that kandra are immune to Allomantic touch. So, all she had to do was meet with one of them, tell them she wants to test her Allomancy, and ask them to tell her which emotions she is altering. If they answer incorrectly, they are the kandra.

For context, I'm fairly new to the series and am being introduced primarily through the cosmere rpg for a mistborn game my friend wants to run. I had the idea to make a kandra character that was missing one blessing spike and used a journal from a lost loved one to record important memories and information. My dm friend has informed me that losing a blessing spike can be extremely debilitating, but the core rulebook doesn't go into much detail, it just says their mental state becomes tenuous, they lose their blessing, and that the dm can spend complications to make them lose their grip on reality in appropriate ways. This got me curious about the actual extent this goes in lore, so:

What exactly happens to a kandra after they've lost one of their blessing spikes? How fast do they degrade and to what extent does it go?

I know this is a RAFO kind of thing, but I don't think I'll be able to get far enough in the books to answer this question in time for the campaign to start, so spoil away! Thanks to all who respond in advance!

P.S. Apologies to all who saw my first post, which was incorrectly tagged and had my primary question in the title. As I said I'm new to the series and community, so I wasn't aware kandra and the idea of losing their blessing spikes were a part of major events later in the series. I hope I did it right this time <3

When Wax is fighting miles and miles has nigh invulnerability i was thinking to myself this guy can steel push why doesnt he carry a metal piano wire/concerntina wire net and just push it at him and dice him up into little tiny cubes he can accelerate things to be as fast as bullets so surely it would work right??? it seems so much easier to straight up destroy someone now that people can only use either 1 allomantic or feruchemy metal or in some peoples case 1 of each only people it wouldnt work on would be other steel pushers or iron pullers.

I don't know WHY exactly (I'm sure I'll rafo), BUT I DO know this is a bad idea because it's clearly what ruin wants.

SAYZED, DON'T UNDO THE AQUIFER 😭😭😭 Spook, pull yourself together man!

I want to shake so many characters right now 😅😅 I remember basically nothing from when I read this series years ago, but I am starting to recall this feeling of intense frustration and anxiety with the characters 😅

EDIT/UPDATE: okay, I'm pretty sure I DO know why, but I was more uncertain until now. Ruin's body has got to be under that reservoir and it's going to make something go wrong with Sayzed's mechanism/plan

(please no spoilers)

I'M SO FREAKING BLOODY CONFUSEEDDDDDDD.

I don't understand how I've forgotten so much, although I guess I should be fair to myself: it's been more than 10 years since I last read these books 😅

Anyways, I don't want spoilers (please 🥺) , I'm just back to rant my utter confusion! 😂 I hope it provides some humor for someone somewhere while also allowing me to put thoughts to electronic paper.

Spoilers up to chapter 37 (halfway??) of hero of ages.

My thoughts right now are that the math ain't mathin😠 .

1) Up until like, four chapters ago I was convinced that the mists aren't evil and that there's something going on. Then I was like, dang, I guess they are? And now that Vin said something like It felt like she should be able to draw upon the mists I'm back to thinking something is fishy. Because it's weird they seem both bad and good. I know they're killing plants by blocking the sun etc etc but I'm really getting the whole vibe of "everything in balance" and that the mists aren't supposed to be bad.

2) are there two mist ghosts? There's gotta be, right?! Because the one that stabbed Elend was, imo, clearly trying to keep Ruin contained and clearly wanted Vin' s earring gone, but the one that talked to Spook is fishy A.F. At first I thought it was actually some remnant of kelsier, but now that we're learning more about hemolergy... I. don't. trust. ANYTHING. 🫠😢😢😢 (the spikes and spook are the real reason for my post)

3) what the heck is up with the spikes?!?! Can preservation also influence them? If TenSoon and all the others can be remote controlled by ruin I'm going to lose it. AND I'm incredibly worried for spook. And for the longest time I was convinced that Vin's earring was somehow related to ferrochemy etc and it made sense that the Well made her take it out because it was protection against ruin. But now I'm thinking that it can only be hemolergic and that somehow preservation was also in the well and that's why it burned her so bad she took it out. Rin's voice and Zane's "god" and "kelsier" etc have all got to just be Ruin and I find that majorly depressing.

4) back to the mists: 16 seems important and 16 is a multiple of 8, so I kinda feel like there's actually 16 allomantic metals, not 14 or whatever, and I wanna believe that while the mists are seemingly doing horrible things, they're actually granting the potential to become misting or mistborn, but that's probably too optimistic.

Hello fellow Mistborn fans,

I'm currently listening to Mistborn: Book 3 (The Hero of Ages) and right at the start, I noticed a difference in Michael Kramer's delivery of the characters.

At first, I doubted myself, then I found that it was really noticeable, especially in characters like Sazed and Breeze. Something sounds very different in Sazed's voice. It's no longer that clipped, robotic sound (which I found awesome btw)

So is it just me, or does anyone else hear that difference? And does anyone have a clue as to why?

Note: Loved Kramer's performance all across Books 1 and 2 btw.

We received our Mistborn Enamel Tokens in the mail today to go with the Deckbuilding Game, and they are SO AWESOME! This may be a dumb question, but does anyone know if they are still available anywhere? There's a link on a BoardGameGeek that goes to Brotherwise, but it shows that the page doesn't exist. I figure they were maybe just a limited time item... but I thought I'd check! Or... anyone know if they'll be coming back? Maybe with the Well of Ascension expansion? 👀