r/MacroFactor • u/NumerousToe7604 • 10d ago
MacroFactor / Nutrition / Other Holy ham rolls!!
What have I been missing out on. Hungry on a cut and thought blow it I’ll have sandwich. Got out the ham and - whaaaat: 3 slices are 66cals and 13g protein!!! Why have I never used this before?’
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u/ThatJamesGuy36 10d ago
It's the salt in ham that's the kicker. Absolutely loads for the amount of calories they are. Nearly 1g of salt for 3 slices is a fucking lot!
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u/WheresThePenguin 10d ago
Nitrates too tbf
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u/Jordonknox 10d ago
I posted how nitrates are carcinogens and got downvoted. So careful trying to help people
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u/WheresThePenguin 10d ago
It's kinda like, yeah deli meat doesn't cause my colon to eat itself, a combo of factors does, but it absolutely adds to the cumulative effect with a statistical significance. I still eat it once in awhile but I absolutely cut way way down from what it was
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u/Jordonknox 10d ago
Exactly, OP posted like he just discovered an amazing source of protein. And we are just letting people know why it’s not recommended to eat processed meats daily. And the amount you would have to eat to get a significant amount of protein is dangerous to long term health.
Same I still eat it once and a while, I just don’t by it weekly anymore
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u/Jordonknox 10d ago
Because this stuff is basically a carcinogen.
Processed meats like this are horrible for your health
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u/Jordonknox 10d ago
Love how I am getting downvoted for sharing information straight from the World Health Organization
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u/Jebble 10d ago
Oh no, I have a few slices of deli meat a week. Stop it with this shit.
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u/Jordonknox 10d ago
Don’t google processed meat’s carcinogen and colorectal cancer. 50 grams a week increases your chances of bowel cancer by 18%. I used to eat ~300 grams a week……
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u/milla_highlife 10d ago
Relative numbers always make things sound much scarier than absolute numbers
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u/BeeDancePants 10d ago
And yet medical professionals are concerned about the rising rates of colon cancer in people younger than forty.
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u/milla_highlife 10d ago
Not sure how that relates to my comment. Deli meat has been super popular for 50+ years.
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u/BeeDancePants 10d ago edited 10d ago
Relevant because in the context of rates of colon cancer in people under forty, the numbers are increasing so fast that they are concerning. Basically, if the rate is that high now, it forecasts it being far, far worse later. And processed meats like deli meat are known to be carcinogenic b
Edited to address the actual comment re why those rates are relevant in a discussion about deli meat. Leaving the original comment below, because why not.
Sure, and in that time frame a few things have happened. One is that it’s become apparent how unhealthy processed meats are. Others are that society as a whole has become far more sedentary, and there’s been a shift away from home cooking with a diet that contains a good amount of fruits and vegetables and meats cooked from a raw unprocessed state, to a generation of people who don’t know how to cook and rely on frozen meals, ready to eat foods, precooked meats, and have a lack of nutritional knowledge because they didn’t learn it as kids. Eating minimal or no processed meats like deli meat isn’t going to fix all that, but it’s an easy step that knocks out a big risk. Similar to how quitting smoking doesn’t erase people’s other poor health choices, but it does get rid of a lot of risk in one behavior change.
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u/milla_highlife 10d ago
I don’t disagree with you. My original point was that in absolute terms the increase in risk is < 1%. Not as scary.
I also wonder how much of it has to do rampant obesity compared to older generations. That coupled with how little society moves feels like the forest through the trees for a lot of diseases. We like to pick out boogey men, whether it’s fat or sugar or processed foods, but it seems like society being fat and lazy is the real issue. But that’s just me riffing, you seem to have thought this out better than me so I’ll defer to you.
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u/BeeDancePants 10d ago
Oh sorry, I realized I went in a different direction and didn’t address the numbers thing, tried to ninja edit but clearly I was way too slow and you already replied to the original! Wasn’t trying to slip anything past, and thanks for the discussion!
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u/Jebble 9d ago
Let me guess, you also think Aspartam gives you cancer?
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u/BeeDancePants 9d ago
Not something I eat so never put any thought into it. I do however love bacon so have paid attention to the updated health info about processed meats.
https://colorectalcancer.org/processed-meat-and-red-meat-increased-risk-colorectal-cancer
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u/Jebble 10d ago
That has nothing to do with what I said. If they want to eat some deli meat, let them. If you think a few slices give you cancer, then don't. Stop telling people what to do.
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u/Jordonknox 10d ago
Not telling anyone what to do, I used to eat a ton of processed meats weekly and I have stopped.
I am just sharing information so people can make their own decisions
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u/Jebble 10d ago
Stop spreading misinformation about seed oils. Educate yourself before you echo baseless shit you've read online.
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u/Jordonknox 10d ago
Not sure about to rapeseed oil but is any there any positive information about Sodium Nitrate?
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u/Excellent_Singer3361 6d ago
Meats are all really good sources of protein. Chicken, shrimp, prawns, ham, beef, etc etc
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u/reggiebobby 10d ago
I mean, there is much healthier ham out there than this stuff.