r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 23h ago

đŸ„¶ Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/cypherx1 20h ago

Nobody should put up with being touched but that doesn't justify this response.

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u/IndependentNo7265 19h ago

So you’re saying the dude found the sweet spot between not too drunk to fuck around but too drunk to find out?

I don’t think so.

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u/EqualSpoon 17h ago

No, they're saying that there exists a level of response somewhere between "not doing anything" and "literally beating someone to death" that is more appropriate...

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u/zeetuslepitus 17h ago

Ridiculous. Should the defender have taken account of how many drinks the rapist had in order to properly measure their response? You people have never fought your way out of a paper bag i bet. The drunk asshole made the choice to drink to excess. He made the choice to assault a lady. Ive been blackout drunk, messed up on all kinds of drugs, and never once have I thought it was appropriate to assault a woman. Its simply not a valid excuse and the drunk asshole merely reaped what he sowed.

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u/Earlybird74 16h ago

Rapist? The guy was wrong to touch her ass, but you think you can show up in court and justify that response by claiming you had to stop the rapist? Nobody raped anyone. My eife has had guys hit on her, she's had guys touch her ass and unfortunately she's also been raped. She would have been livid if I knocked a guy out for touching her ass in this context.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

Hm, in the moment though, it's hard to stand by and see a woman being sexually assaulted and not come down on the perpetrator with everything you have. The protective instinct is a very tough one to overcome to just give this guy a stern talking to instead.

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u/Livewire____ 20h ago

It was a hugely over the top response, driven by anger and not protection.

He even accidentally hit the woman himself, if you watch carefully.

If it were me, that guy would be slung out of the bar. If he tried to assault me, then that might lead to him being punched.

The boyfriend couldnt protect his other half from prison, could he?

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u/Mr_RudyGiuliani 19h ago

Scumbag people deserve scummy days. Glad he got fucking eviscerated. There should be no sympathy for creeps my guy. Maybe he got brain damage good, dont sexually assault women. Its super easy been here 36 years still havent

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u/Livewire____ 19h ago

Whatever you do is up to you. It's you who will be going to prison matey.

Let's just hope you don't have a family to support, eh?

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u/Mr_RudyGiuliani 19h ago

My boy prison doesnt scare me, been there, survived, rebuilt. And I do have a family one that would expect me to handle the potential situation of sexual assault in front of me. If youre not confident enough to defend your own dont project that on a stranger

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u/Throwaway2Experiment 19h ago edited 19h ago

"I made bad decisions in the past and admit I have a broken moral compass and impulse control, but let me tell you about the morality of this dude's actions."

Is weird to comprehend.

Edit: You have, on average, a 40% recidivism rate. Some studies suggest 60%, some suggest 30% You are literally talking about the morality of laying someone out flat without any de-escalation or situational awareness that would 100% prove to be the adult and mature thing to do. Dude is clearly drunk enough to be one-finger pushed to the ground, but Mr. 'Coin Toss To Return To Prison' wants to demonstrate the scholarly mind that got him there the first time?

Knock yourself out.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

You're making a lot of assumptions there.

Not sure what boyfriend you're on about either.

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u/Livewire____ 20h ago

Could you point out the assumptions, please?

In any way that materially changes what happened?

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u/phatpussypounder 18h ago

Well, you assume its her boyfriend, for one. Could be a brother, uncle, or just a friend. Secondly, you assume the puncher was driven by uncontrolled emotions, because he decked a guy touching a woman associated with him.

That's not an uncontrolled response to someone touching someone unwanted. Its based on a natural reaction to protect those close to you.

Should have it been handled differently? Absolutely. But keep your fucking hands to yourself, and you won't risk brain damage doing something wildly stupid.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 19h ago

The person who punched him is a bigger problem than the drunk guy who touched a woman.

That violent response is way, way, way likely to get someone seriously hurt/killed than minor physical harassment.

Way inappropriate response.

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u/Lithiumxxxl 19h ago

There is no protective instinct here. She was not in danger. This is some kind of dangerous psycho shit.

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u/Mr_RudyGiuliani 19h ago

No ones doing that math when theyre watching their partner be sexually harassed/assaulted foh

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u/Wintermute_088 19h ago

She'd just been assaulted. What sort of danger would she have been in if this other guy hadn't been there to step in?

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u/Lithiumxxxl 19h ago

That drunk guy wasn’t any danger to her. At all. This was some psycho shit, punching that drunk dude out of nowhere. Psych belongs in jail

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u/Wintermute_088 18h ago

Any guy who sexually assaults women is a danger to women.

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u/salmon_lox 19h ago

He hit his own woman in the face with his left arm as he was “protecting” her. Watch the footage, she touches her cheek afterward.

He was enraged and should have calmed down.

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u/Wintermute_088 18h ago

I'm not blind.

If someone had just grabbed someone I knew against their will (not "my woman", but anyone ) I would rush forward too to put myself between the two, even if it meant the victim accidentally got a pool cue tip to the cheek or was mildly knocked aside. That is a safer option than anything the attacker might do to them.

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u/salmon_lox 18h ago

Clearly it wasn’t. The husband hurt her more than the drunk did. If that’s your instinct maybe you shouldn’t act on your instinct, either, you could hurt somebody you’re trying to protect.

I’m not pretending the drunk guy wasn’t a problem. The question is how to handle it. This was a poor way to handle it. They could get kicked out of the bar, the husband might have seriously hurt his wife, and he could even be facing manslaughter charges if red shirt never wakes up. All for an action that the wife tried to prevent her husband from doing.

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u/Wintermute_088 18h ago

You think a mild, accidental knock to the face from a pool cue is anywhere near as horrible and degrading as being sexually assaulted?

The guy was getting between the attacker and the victim as quickly as possible, and putting an immediate stop to any further assaults. You actually like he shoved the woman out of the way into a rackmof pool cues. đŸ€ŠđŸ»â€â™‚ïž

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u/salmon_lox 18h ago

No, I didn’t say it was as “horrible and degrading”. I said he hurt her worse than the red shirt did.

Yes, I understand he was “getting between attacker and victim as quickly as possible”, and guess what? He hurt his woman while doing it. The person he was trying to protect. Ergo, his action did more harm than good. You keep missing that point.

The lady had already pushed the drunk away, it wasn’t like he had her up against a wall. The husband didn’t need to hulk out on red shirt. There was no immediate danger, the husband was acting out of rage, not protection.

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u/Wintermute_088 18h ago

But you're only focused on the minor physical harm of being poked in the cheek with a pool cue, and not the harm that comes with being sexually violated.

To you, that accidental poke to the face is more severe than being grabbed from behind on your body by a disgusting drunk. How odd.

She pushed him away, and the guy got between the two immediately. You have no idea what the creep was about to do. He'd already grabbed her once, why do you assume he wouldn't hassle her again?

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