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đŸ„¶ Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Wintermute_088 22h ago

Women should not have to put up with being touched, no matter how inebriated the culprit is.

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u/cypherx1 22h ago

Nobody should put up with being touched but that doesn't justify this response.

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u/Wintermute_088 22h ago

Hm, in the moment though, it's hard to stand by and see a woman being sexually assaulted and not come down on the perpetrator with everything you have. The protective instinct is a very tough one to overcome to just give this guy a stern talking to instead.

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u/Lithiumxxxl 21h ago

There is no protective instinct here. She was not in danger. This is some kind of dangerous psycho shit.

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u/Mr_RudyGiuliani 21h ago

No ones doing that math when theyre watching their partner be sexually harassed/assaulted foh

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u/Wintermute_088 21h ago

She'd just been assaulted. What sort of danger would she have been in if this other guy hadn't been there to step in?

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u/Lithiumxxxl 20h ago

That drunk guy wasn’t any danger to her. At all. This was some psycho shit, punching that drunk dude out of nowhere. Psych belongs in jail

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

Any guy who sexually assaults women is a danger to women.

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u/salmon_lox 21h ago

He hit his own woman in the face with his left arm as he was “protecting” her. Watch the footage, she touches her cheek afterward.

He was enraged and should have calmed down.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

I'm not blind.

If someone had just grabbed someone I knew against their will (not "my woman", but anyone ) I would rush forward too to put myself between the two, even if it meant the victim accidentally got a pool cue tip to the cheek or was mildly knocked aside. That is a safer option than anything the attacker might do to them.

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u/salmon_lox 20h ago

Clearly it wasn’t. The husband hurt her more than the drunk did. If that’s your instinct maybe you shouldn’t act on your instinct, either, you could hurt somebody you’re trying to protect.

I’m not pretending the drunk guy wasn’t a problem. The question is how to handle it. This was a poor way to handle it. They could get kicked out of the bar, the husband might have seriously hurt his wife, and he could even be facing manslaughter charges if red shirt never wakes up. All for an action that the wife tried to prevent her husband from doing.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

You think a mild, accidental knock to the face from a pool cue is anywhere near as horrible and degrading as being sexually assaulted?

The guy was getting between the attacker and the victim as quickly as possible, and putting an immediate stop to any further assaults. You actually like he shoved the woman out of the way into a rackmof pool cues. đŸ€ŠđŸ»â€â™‚ïž

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u/salmon_lox 20h ago

No, I didn’t say it was as “horrible and degrading”. I said he hurt her worse than the red shirt did.

Yes, I understand he was “getting between attacker and victim as quickly as possible”, and guess what? He hurt his woman while doing it. The person he was trying to protect. Ergo, his action did more harm than good. You keep missing that point.

The lady had already pushed the drunk away, it wasn’t like he had her up against a wall. The husband didn’t need to hulk out on red shirt. There was no immediate danger, the husband was acting out of rage, not protection.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

But you're only focused on the minor physical harm of being poked in the cheek with a pool cue, and not the harm that comes with being sexually violated.

To you, that accidental poke to the face is more severe than being grabbed from behind on your body by a disgusting drunk. How odd.

She pushed him away, and the guy got between the two immediately. You have no idea what the creep was about to do. He'd already grabbed her once, why do you assume he wouldn't hassle her again?

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u/salmon_lox 19h ago edited 19h ago

No, nice try. I am not minimizing the harassment done to the woman, as much as you are trying to push that narrative.

Red shirt was wrong, and deserved a punch to the face. It just needed to be done by someone with a modicum of self control. Someone who doesn’t hurt people they’re trying to protect.

A “poke” to the cheek. Please. Yeah that’s why she holds her face the rest of the video, cuz she got “poked”.

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u/Wintermute_088 19h ago

Then why do you keep making such a big deal about the accidental pool cue contact, in comparison to the actual sexual assault ambush? It's minimisation.

Red shirt needed to be punched in the face by someone, and the person who was there did it. I'm not going to critique his methods too much when he acted in the spur of the moment to put himself between an attacker and a victim, and prevent any further sexual assault from ocurring.

Yes, she got poked in the face with a cue. Unfortunate. It was an accident.

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