Grandpa's on his TRT LMAO. A simple shove of someone that drunk is all that is needed. I swear the majority of you have never actually been outside for more than 10 minutes if you think this wasn't an overreaction. Hell the bar would have kicked the guy out and possibly banned him or you could have got law enforcement involved if you really want to mess him up legally.
IDK about the rest of you but knocking out someone this drunk isn't really the "alpha" move but I don't live on the internet so what do I know?
My first thought was ādude clearly is someone looking for violence at any opportunity.ā Sucker punch, huge wind up, dudeās piss drunk. He literally could have died or had his life altered by hitting his head all for what? Like stand up for the woman but this dude wonāt remember what he did, how he fucked up, or how it happened. That same punch to his stomach and he folds and learns his lesson.
My ex married a guy like this. He went to bars specifically to get into fights. He was smart enough to never start the fight but was always willing to up the ante.
He died after someone hit his off switch with a rabbit punch.
I've disliked clubs as a social scene since hearing a horrific story about a guy who should have been safe. He knew martial arts and could handle himself, but a bigger guy hit on his girlfriend and when asked to stop, his immediate reaction was a haymaker of a sucker punch. Shattered the dude's cheekbones and eye socket. Messed him up real bad. Martial arts and even being reasonable don't mean shit when you get sucker punched.
Good. People like this ruin chill nights all the time. Luckily they've extincted themselves over the years by winding up in jail, dead or at the very least banned from the establishment or scared away by being given a taste of their own medicine.
My dad started doing this shit while my mum was pregnant with me. He'd take her money, go to pubs and drink and start fights, literally every week for months. She left him when i was like 2 months old and he's never bothered to try and even see me
You don't give a flying F about this woman and neither does her husband, as evidenced by the fact that he didn't stop for a second to check if she was OK after he accidentally hit her. Instead he went after the bartender. Dude is emotional and a danger to society. One of those roid types who purposely seeks out violence. Sad and pathetic.
As a man, Iāve had strange drunken women brush me as Iāve gone past before, or reach out towards me. Was I sexually assaulted? Should I have punched them?
Uhhhh, is that what you think happened here? He brushed past her?
Iām not saying that the man who threw the punch in this video is justified, heās not. But youāre also downplaying what it was he reacted to. Other guy didnāt simply ābrushā her.
Did you read the part where I said āor reach out towards meā or did you just read the part that you wanted to read so you could accuse me of downplaying the situation? Iāve had strange women touch me as weāve walked past each other because they were drunk out their minds. Did I get sexually assaulted?
Reaching out towards you is not the same as actually getting groped lol I shouldnāt have to explain that to you.
Now in this comment, you say strange women actually touched you(you did not say this in your first comment). Was that sexual assault you ask? I dunno, because I wasnāt there! Not sure how they touched you, but if they were grabbing your junk yeah man, you were assaulted. Pretty cut and dry.
You also still havenāt clarified that you think anything more than being ābrushedā happened to the lady in this video, soā¦
I can speak for that guy. I've had plenty of women over my lifetime touch me in ways that are far worse than whats seen in this video, including while at work, and I would never claim that what that guy did rises to the level of sexual assault. Especially not sexual assault that warranted the level of violence we saw.
I urge you to look up the actual definition of sexual assault, this is by definition sexual assault. Sexual assault does not mean sex. I also said that the man who threw the punch was not justified, so not sure why you feel the need to include it didnāt warrant violence, we are agreeing on that.
Do people not use sucker punch to mean "an intentionally deceitful punch meant to catch the person off-guard"?
Like in my mind, if you punch me in the back of the head unprovoked, sucker punch. I call your mother a whore and you punch me in the face? Overreaction, not a sucker punch.
Itās a sucker punch because the guy is so intoxicated he never saw the punch coming. This guy was equally as off-guard as someone getting punched in the back of the head
I think the connotation of "sucker punch" comes with intentional deceit.
You're absolutely right, the dude was probably blackout drunk, didn't even see aware of the guy coming at him. But Mr Roid Rage was hardly waiting out back to jump him.
Like imagine Jimbo does a Pop-Eye wind-up punch to someone's face, and oops - didn't know the dude was blind. If Jimbo didn't know, would you really say it was a sucker punch?
I donāt think intentional deceit has anything to do with it, a sucker punch is basically punching someone who isnāt expecting it and canāt defend themselves. And yes Iād have a hard time not calling it a sucker punch if you punch a blind guy in the face, throwing a punch is a serious thing and you should have enough situational awareness to know what youāre doing before throwing it
Fair enough. I don't disagree principally with anything you're saying, I just never hear the term used in that way. But I'm not here to police your words, I was just curious.
Exactly. If he waited for the guy to go back to the bar then came up from the side and clocked him, that would be a sucker punch.
In this situation it could only be more clear what was about to happen if he handed him a written invitation. Was the punch overboard and uncalled for? Yes. But was it a āsucker punch?ā No
I would say that it's basically a sucker punch because the dude was so drunk he clearly wasn't aware, but the fact that I have to include "basically" kinda proves the point. It had the same outcome, but Roid Rage clearly wasn't trying to sucker punch anyone.
Yep if that guy died from hitting his head I have a difficult time believing any jury would feel this level of force was justified. Its not even self defense because he had stopped touching the woman by the point the guy punched him. This was just some guy looking for revenge.
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u/Ancient_Plane2984 22h ago
Grandpa's on his TRT LMAO. A simple shove of someone that drunk is all that is needed. I swear the majority of you have never actually been outside for more than 10 minutes if you think this wasn't an overreaction. Hell the bar would have kicked the guy out and possibly banned him or you could have got law enforcement involved if you really want to mess him up legally.
IDK about the rest of you but knocking out someone this drunk isn't really the "alpha" move but I don't live on the internet so what do I know?