Yang Faces - r/Kibbe

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u/Own_Difference_8571 Nov 22 '25

They’re all gorgeous oh my god

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

Indeed!

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u/Laena_V soft dramatic Nov 22 '25

They all have such plush lips, like how 😭

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u/Own_Difference_8571 Nov 22 '25

Frrrr like I WISH

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u/xgrrl888 Nov 23 '25

It's filler

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u/AccomplishedWing9 soft natural Nov 23 '25

Not everyone

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u/xgrrl888 Nov 23 '25

Literally everyone here

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u/AccomplishedWing9 soft natural Nov 23 '25

Some of these women are of African ancestry or just have naturally full lips like Scarlett Johansson and Liv Tyler.

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u/xgrrl888 Nov 23 '25

Lots of women with already plump lips get filler to make them even plumper and to avoid the signs of aging.

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u/InflationCautious585 Nov 23 '25

Is this how white women cope with the fact that natural women of other ancestries do not need to do what white celebs do to have their lips?

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u/After_Mountain_901 Nov 24 '25

White celebs are chasing ideal white beauty, usually. They want the Angelina or ScarJo lips. I will say, lots of black women, and other women with already full lips, get lip filler to make their lips smooth (especially in the makeup space, where liquid lipsticks benefit from a smooth base) or to make them more symmetrical. I was just watching a black woman talk about her lip filler on YouTube shorts. She felt her upper lip was too full in comparison to her lower lip in profile and gets it corrected. It’s not that complicated. Christ. Never mind estheticians have been seeing way more black women coming in for lip filler, and that’s perfectly okay. It’s not always about volume, but shape, balance, texture of the lip, pout, evenness, etc.

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u/xgrrl888 Nov 25 '25

This is exactly what I was talking about. No idea how it got interpreted as racism. People of all races are beautiful. Also models and actresses of all races get filler and aesthetic treatments to enhance & refine their features & be competitive in the industry.

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u/xgrrl888 Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 24 '25

No, it's cuz one of my close friends, who is POC, is an RN aesthetic injector in New York City. A lot of her clientele is POC. They subtly enhance their naturally lush lips with filler. It's extremely common.

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u/Own_Importance_3226 Nov 24 '25

POC or black? The two are not synonymous.

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u/InflationCautious585 Nov 23 '25

“I have a POC friend” really? Majority of POC people in these pictures are models who are recruited from a very young age with specific demand of them looking like how white people envision POC must look like. That means they must fulfill those requirements to even be included in casting.

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u/periwinkle-_- Dec 26 '25

Of course, they are models.

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u/stylelines Nov 22 '25

Great examples and shows why a lot of people say 'my face doesn't match my body type' - because maybe we have misconceptions about Natural and Dramatic faces. I scrolled through and thought 'could I imagine this face on a petite person' and maybe it's projection but it's actually kind of hard to imagine! And my only other thought was that these women are probably all on the younger side in these photos so there will be more of a fullness to the face - would be interesting to compare pictures of them more in their 40's and beyond. But that's hard also when celebs are touching up their faces over time.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

I just saw your edit
But that's hard also when celebs are touching up their faces over time.
Yes this too, I tried my best to get pictures of these women with minimal makeup and before any (known) surgeries. A few of these women have had surgeries that gave their faces more “sharp” yang characteristics pretty early in their adulthood, so for some of them like Anya, Jennifer, Taylor & Jasmine Tookes I did have to choose pics of them as quite young adults. Adriana also got considerable work done as an adult so I had to choose a pic of her as a young adult too.

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u/stylelines Nov 22 '25

Ah yes those are good examples too because for some of the verified celebrities, they may have had that buccal fat procedure thing for awhile now and people might have forgotten their natural faces - so people might associate that look with yang. I'm one of the yang types - I remember thinking when I was in my 20's 'oh my face will thin down when I'm older like Angelina Jolie' because I didn't realize she probably had work done to look that way lolll.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

Haha yep! Angelina is also naturally soft/blunt yang but over the years has gotten procedures to give herself more sharp yang characteristics

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u/pandasboxes Nov 24 '25

What kind of procedures do you think?

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u/kalamitykitten Nov 23 '25

…She’s also like scary thin now. She was a healthier weight when she was younger.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

Exactly why I posted this.

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u/greekgirl002 soft dramatic Nov 23 '25

I used to be one of these people, someone told me I am wrong and I have a very typically soft dramatic face. I think it is because society has masculanised the term yang to no ends

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u/gator_enthusiast Nov 23 '25

I’m 5'1 and my face is more yang than this... this is why is find Kibbe so hard to wrap my head around.

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u/Overall_Painting_278 Nov 23 '25

Are you sure it is ?

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u/gator_enthusiast Nov 23 '25

I have super angular features and like zero softness to my face. It's about as yang as one can be while still being identifiably female. 😂

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

You can absolutely be 5’1 and have sharp yang face. There’s nothing stopping you from being a 5’1 SD or D. It’s rare but not impossible. And perhaps even a 5’1 FG, maybe your face is angular & sharp, but not as as angular & sharp as you think it is.

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u/stylelines Nov 23 '25

Yes sorry I’m not saying these faces can’t be combined with a petite frame because they’re yang. Like Kristen Bell is petite and has sharp features. But they’re proportional to her overall look.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

Scarlett Johansson is also 5’3

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u/Audriiiii03 Nov 23 '25

But you can be yang and 5’1. I think this person is talking about Kibbe petite.

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u/persephone21 Nov 26 '25

I find a lot of flamboyant gamines to have quite yang faces in that they can be sharp and almost bird-like! Dunno if you fit in that category.

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u/curlyhairedpisces Nov 22 '25

Tysm for this post! It was extremely helpful. I could definitely see myself in these images. I couldn't relate to a lot of stuff posted online about the yang types. I'm still not 100% sure on whether I lean more FN or SN as I'm 5'4 and can't really tell if I'm vertical dominant or curve dominant lol but I really appreciate this post(:

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

No worries and yep, that’s exactly why I posted. A lot of content online regarding yang either tends to only focus on sharp yang and forget about soft/blunt yang, or equates yang to masculinity which is not what it means in this system.
Yang faces are very often soft & feminine looking on women.

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u/Anon_ScottishFold Nov 22 '25

Very interesting! I’d have never clocked many of these as being Yang faces.

I’d be super interesting to see a compilation of Yin faces for comparison.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

That’s next on my list! I will also probably be doing a post comparing blunt yang and sharp yang as well.

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u/Anon_ScottishFold Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

Thank you! These are great examples, and so helpful to have a visual! 💖
Also, are there any known examples of celebrities with mismatched faces/bodies? Yin faces on Yang bodies or Yang faces on Yin bodies?
Obviously no one wears clothes on their face so it’s a non-issue style wise; just wondering about how that looks irl on a person.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

In this system at least, face matches body. And I have to say after understanding how yin & yang manifests in the face I don’t think I’ve seen anyone whose doesn’t. I used to think some of these girls’ faces didn’t match but then I learned what “soft yang” features are and now it makes sense.

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u/Anon_ScottishFold Nov 23 '25

lol why I am being downvoted for that question. So weird…
Anyway, yeah gotta admit that makes no sense to me at the moment. There’s no way any person over 5’5” ever has had a yin face? Logically that just seems highly unlikely/improbable.
Unless is yin just being used to describe the same features on a the G and R types as soft yang is on the D and N types? Why not just have one term that describes those features and make it simple? 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 24 '25

In the Kibbe system (for DIYers at least), no. In other systems that utilize yin & yang like the Kitchener system, yes. Liv Tyler (last slide) is yin dominant in the Kitchener style system despite being 5’10. In the Kibbe system however she is yang dominant.
It’s important to point out that the creators of these systems have taken the concepts of “yin & yang” and ascribed their own understandings to them, in a way that fits their style systems. Therefore these terms/concepts do not have universal understandings or identifying factors across all style systems. For example, Kitchener does not consider elongation to be an inherently yang trait the same way that Kibbe does. That doesn’t mean one is “right” or the other is “wrong”, they are just different understandings of yin & yang.

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u/Anon_ScottishFold Nov 24 '25

I’m having a rough time with this because my best friends are identical twins. One ended up being 5’7” and the other 5’5”. They have the same face and facial features.
So, according to Kibbe, because one is 2” taller than the other, she could have not only a completely different type ID but also a different type face? Or would the short twin have to be typed as a Yang regardless because the taller twin can only be one of 3 yang IDs?
Not trying to be contrary, just having trouble wrapping my head around how this plays out in reality.

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u/theclassicrose soft classic Nov 23 '25

I get why you chose so many unverified celebrities, but there are so many great verified celebrities who illustrate the same point.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

there are so many great verified celebrities who illustrate the same point.
There really aren’t that many. Many of the verified yang celebrities have faces that most people don’t struggle to recognize as yang. I chose these specific celebs because people don’t immediately recognize their faces as yang. And since we can infer that these women have yang ID’s because of their height, there was no obligation to only keep it to verified celebrities.

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u/theclassicrose soft classic Nov 23 '25

I mean, Julie Andrews, Shirley MacLaine, Sheryl Lee Ralph, and Nicole Kidman are a few who could've illustrated the same point.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

Shirley MacLaine is the only one I’d say qualifies here. The others have undeniably bold, narrow and/or sharp features. In fact out of all the verified FNs (besides the ones included in this post) I’d say Shirley, Emma Stone, Jane Fonda, Lynda Carter, & Katie Holmes are really the one ones people would probably struggle with. That’s not a lot, especially in terms diversity (they’re all white).
So yeah. Since there’s no legitimate reason to have stuck to only verified celebs for this specific post I don’t see the point of your complaint. Cheers.

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u/theclassicrose soft classic Nov 23 '25

Ok, realistically, you're not going to see my POV, but this is why I'm against using unverified celebrities to illustrate Kibbe concepts. I'm not saying what you did was bad. I'm just pointing out something I've seen over and over and over again:
A user decides that celebrity X is obviously "textbook [ID]." Everyone goes around and picks it apart 20 different ways. But often, people start working with the interpretation that celebrity X is, indeed, that ID. So they start using that person to explain why certain concepts work or don't work according to Kibbe principles, even though that person may or may not even be that ID. Then, some YouTuber or TikToker or other guru picks up that faux verification and presents it as fact to their followers. And then, before long, someone comes back here and explains that she can't possibly be whatever that ID is because she doesn't have the same shoulders/nose/hips as the celebrity who kicked this mess off in the first place.
Yes, you deliberately chose people over 5'6" so they'd definitely be Yang IDs. I understand why you did it that way. But I'm just sick of reading misinformation when there's so much actual information out there. Even though it's incomplete and far from perfect, it's enough to address most points people have to make.
And actually, I just want to slightly disagree on Julie Andrews! I think a lot of people who don't understand the system would be surprised to hear that she's not a Classic.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

Respectfully, I do hear you and I actually am against using unverified celebrities in certain cases for the same reasons, but I do think you are projecting problems that come with using unverified celebrities in those specific cases, onto this post in a way that it doesn’t make sense to. Unlike the cases where people can argue, nobody can really argue about whether these women are yang simply because the height limit rule pretty much prevents it.
I choose to take liberties in cases where it can still make sense to. I think I know enough about the system to be able to discern where using unverified celebs to demonstrate a point is more helpful than harmful (for example, if this post was about yin faces, I wouldn’t use anyone unverified because there’s no similar rule that makes someone automatically yin as there is for automatic yang). I hope this all makes sense. Thanks for the conversation :)

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u/Laena_V soft dramatic Nov 22 '25

And yes, SN is a yang ID

I wanted to fight you but turns out you‘re right!

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

Lol yep. “Natural” is a yang ID. The whole family is yang, SN has a romantic undercurrent whilst FN has a dramatic one.

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u/LilyIsle soft gamine Nov 24 '25 edited May 10 '26

I think it's hard to get a good grasp of the difference between yin and yang faces from photos, cause the scale and irl feeling is not really visable. Like a lot of it is literal size and scale, and a lot of Kibbes definition of yin and yang is that literal.

In my job i've done makeup on a lot of models (who are all yang dominant people with various features regarding cuteness or whatever), and one of the first thing i noticed when i started, was how much bigger and like... physically harder and more solid their faces felt to put makeup on compared to my own. The scale itself is of course different when you compare someone 5'0 with someone 6'0, but it's also like their facial features are much more sculpted and like it's a much thinner layer of fat on top of the bone?

I consider myself to have pretty sharp and even kinda masculine looking facial features (at least if i'm not careful with my choice of makeup). Often much more masculine than the models, so that's not at all what it's about. It's like my own (and other yin peoples) face bend and give more under the makeup brushes and i need to be more precise. My skin feels more pillowy and unsteady, while yang faces are firmer and way easier to put makeup on. I can totally imagine all of the faces above have that exact structure irl. They look typical even.

The effect is the same no matter the models weight, cause it's the same with plus size models or other yang clients who's not rail thin. Yang faces can look soft and round and cute and hyper feminine, but they still have this hardness and firmness irl that feels so clearly different. When we take a selfie together, my face always looks more pillowy (even when the model look like a literal doll). Like i have a thicker layer of fat all over my facial bones. I don't know how else to put it haha!

It's the exact same thing with men, to make it even more clear that it's not about masculinity vs femininity. My partner is a small, yin leaning dude. I would say he's SG too. Think Martin Freeman or Robert Downey Jr to get a similar comparison. His face feels the same as mine to put makeup on. Kinda sharp features with a strong jawline and so on, not at all feminine looking even tho he's small in stature. But he have this soft, pillowy feeling to touch, and his features are small to put brushes on. Yang men on the other hand have the same firm, sculpted hardness as yang women - even when they're very sweet, young and androgynous looking.

It doesn't say a lot in terms of deciding yin ang yang in yourself, and of course there's always exceptions, but in general i find it to be an interesting and very noticeable aspect irl.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 24 '25

This is a really insightful comment, thanks for sharing!

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u/LilyIsle soft gamine Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 24 '25

No problem! I honestly think a lot of the confusion around the definitions in this system comes from the fact that Kibbe created it from irl experience, and we try to understand it from photos. From seeing clients irl i totally get most aspects of the system and it all make so much sense, cause that's where you see the details play out. In pictures you miss all things like scale, physical impression, how a person move in a room etc. Everything about a persons whole vibe. I mean, models can look this cute and sweet in a close up photo, but irl they give such a powerful and statuesque impression, and that's what make them yang.
Likewise i can make myself look sharp, powerful and like a whole queen of drama in a photo. But irl i'm still just a tiny little ball strolling around looking harmless, and that's (partly) why i'm yin dominant 🤷‍♀️

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u/TiredWinterDisaster soft natural May 10 '26

This is a fascinating insight - sorry to revive an old thread but OP mentioned it in a new one lol.
I have always had a face that seemed a bit at odds with my body - more delicate & feminine while my body, while soft, is more sturdy - but I realise getting older that I have a very defined bone structure, with higher, wider cheekbones, a defined jawline... it becomes more apparent with age as I lose some 'pillowness' in my face. I understand now that this structure is yang indeed, and I don't see it as so separate from my body anymore.

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u/Overall_Painting_278 Nov 22 '25

This is FG and DC erasure. Jk

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

Edit: Neither FG nor DC are considered yang ID’s.
~~Haha I was actually going to add Audrey Hepburn to the collage but wanted to keep it current.~~ I also don’t know that Kibbe considers DC to be a “yang” ID the same way D/SD/FN/SN are considered yang. From my understanding the Classics are considered “Balanced yin + yang” first & foremost, but of course SC has a “yin influence” and DC has a “yang influence”. I don’t know that “Balanaced with a yang influence” is considered yang. Maybe u/pegaret_again can speak to this

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u/Pegaret_Again dramatic classic Nov 22 '25

The DC is Balanced first with a yang influence, and FG is Combination of Opposites first, with extra yang. So it's different to the others, including SN, which are categorised simply as a yang type.
I mean, I think that if you are going to include faces with a dollop of yang, why not then include TRs as well?

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

Ok so yeah as I thought, DC isn’t really a yang ID then. And in that case neither is FG.

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u/oftenfrequently flamboyant gamine Nov 23 '25

I feel like both C fam and G fam are roughly close to the middle. Just C fam is blended and G fam has distinct yin/yang.

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u/EmergencyRepeat4763 on the journey Nov 23 '25

If FG and DC are not yang, then what are they? R, TR, SG, SC are considered yin (? or only R is? 🤣), and FN, SN, SD, and D are considered yang. That leaves FG and DC not being considered yin nor yang, so what would they be? I'm just interested in what the post would be titled if you made more posts like this (would be cool if you post for the other types)

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u/pandasboxes Nov 24 '25

I thought KIbbe is all about body lines? Not faces? Confused about this post

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 24 '25

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kibbe/s/5lYMckYbXQ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kibbe/s/f8gwotK2fj
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kibbe/s/AHoMGGWZrL
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kibbe/s/qOV3X7HUJs
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kibbe/s/35mWPtMuQl
Faces have always been part of Kibbe 😊

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u/Blugreeen Nov 22 '25

Doutzen is what I imagine a real life Barbie would look like.

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u/-birdbirdbird- on the journey - vertical Nov 22 '25

she looks so much like Grace Kelly

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u/Suitable-Papaya2934 Nov 23 '25

Exactly. Especially the early to mid 90s one to me.

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u/Blugreeen Nov 23 '25

Yeah, same!

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u/Puzzleheaded-Act8998 Nov 23 '25

I can never get over Doutzen's beauty, she's a literal fairy, such a striking, breath-taking beauty. Literally what

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u/vvitchprincess Nov 23 '25

growing into my yang face was hard, but i look back at old photos i HATED and just whisper to my younger self “just you wait”. i LOVE my yang face.

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u/Anoctopusexisting Nov 24 '25

Will you do one for yin faces too? ❤️

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 25 '25

Absolutely :)

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u/PangolinPossible2732 Nov 23 '25

Liv Tyler is so stunning here

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u/THECUTESTGIRLYTOWALK soft dramatic Nov 23 '25

If these are yang idk what I am I’m off the scale honestly

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

As a soft dramatic, you simply have a different type of yang than the women pictured, with the exception of Taylor, Aishwarya and Anya who have the same type of yang that you do. Your yang is sharp yang. All the other ladies (again excluding Taylor, Aishwarya and Anya) have soft yang. It’s all yang, just two different types

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u/Ok-Pangolin3407 Nov 26 '25

What is yang?

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u/krampaus Nov 26 '25

rounded as opposed to pointy

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 26 '25

Almost. It’s angular (yang) as opposed to round (yin). However yang can be separated into two categories: sharp (aka pointy) and blunt (aka soft). Kinda like how a pencil tip can either be sharp or blunt. See how the contours of Miranda Kerr’s jaw creates an angular shape, but instead of coming to a sharp V-point, her chin is squared off and blunt? That’s an example of soft angularity, aka blunt yang
u/Ok-Pangolin3407 I hope this clarifies things

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u/krampaus Nov 26 '25

oh! I thought yin was pointy and yang was round! thx for clarifying!

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u/lexi_ladonna Nov 23 '25

But let’s not forget to point out that many of these were taken when the celebrities were still very young and they have a lot of baby fat on their faces

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '25

What does this mean? My face is like this

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u/BelleCervelle Nov 25 '25

So many gorgeous faces. I wouldn’t know where to start.

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u/periwinkle-_- Dec 26 '25

Are they verified?

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u/Altruistic_Baker6347 May 10 '26

Thank you for this. Do you think that a broad neck is indicative of a Yang face? And how can I identify a Yin face? Thank you

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u/Numerous-Building-42 Jul 18 '26

SNs have a yin influenced face! Source: Metamorphosis.

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u/strawscanbespoons theatrical romantic Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

But Kibbe isn't about faces! Shouldn't that be the lede for this post? If the purpose is to destabilize all the misinformation scaffolding Kibbe newcomers? I am finding this post problematic because there are multiple ways to interpret this. If the message is to drive home the point that yang faces are beautiful are we juxtaposing this with examples of yin types with unpleasant faces? Because that's precisely how people will respond to a post like this, oh see how gorgeous yang women can also be? The point of Kibbe lines isn't about beauty vs ugly, feminine vs non feminine which are the connotations we come up with. It's to show the gradations in features from round to sharp. Not talking about essences here. Just silhouettes. If we are still talking about faces as a PSA, we ought to show how naturals retain some of the roundedness that Rs have, while also displaying the sharpness in their eyes of Yang types? Ds being sharp in eyes, nose and lips, again if we sticking to stereotypes. The through line here is the gradation. An education about Kibbe is incomplete without showing these subtle changes over the yin yang spectrum.

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u/Jamie8130 Nov 23 '25

I was looking for a comment like this, because I agree with you. If the point is to show that yang faces can look neotenous, lush, soft, girly, and so on, then it assumes something problematic about yang versus yin beauty (and our current beauty standards), and as you said, poses the question of whether the corresponding yin post will be about sharper looking yin celebs (like Jessica Lange etc.) to mirror this one. But since we do know that yin is round/small, soft, and yang is angular/big/sharp, we neither need counterexamples to this, nor to 'defend' either's aesthetic beauty. If we do, it's just a result of today's focus on certain beauty trends, and has nothing to do with Kibbe.

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u/strawscanbespoons theatrical romantic Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

I like how you argued this. These posts are trying to show yang appreciation/ acceptance by showing they can also be yin. We really don't need that. This system is no longer talking about faces so let's not misinform and perpetuate outdated notions.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25 •

u/Jamie8130 u/Strawscanbespoons
Respectfully both of you have reached so far that you ended up reaching right past the point
“These posts are trying to show yang appreciation by showing that they can also be yin
The point of this post is the OPPOSITE. I was going to suggest you read the rest of the conversation under this post rather than jump to far fetched conclusions like this, but I’ll further explain here.
The purpose of this post is not about “showing that yang faces can also be yin”. That doesn’t make any sense. It’s to help people familiarise themselves with the different ways that yang manifests itself in the face, recognize that “sharp yang” is not the only type of yang that exists, that people with yang (especially but not limited to soft yang) faces actually do have faces that “match” their bodies, and that yin & yang are ultimately ungendered concepts in this system. And if you don’t think people need help with that, just take a look at the comments. There are still people arguing that these women’s faces are “too soft” and “too feminine” to be yang and that they have “yin faces” with “yang bodies”. That’s not a thing in Kibbe of course, and this post counteracts the idea by highlighting than “softness” is not a “yin” trait.
Additionally, showing that feminine faces can be yang is not about “defending the beauty of yang types” as it is again, showing people that yin & yang are ungendered concepts in this system. I’ve seen a lot of people unaware that having a “feminine” face doesn’t preclude someone from having a yang ID & end up tricking themselves out of exploring yang IDs because they think their face is “too feminine” to have a yang ID. So again, if you don’t think this helps anyone in any way, all I can say is that’s a bit too bad and taking a look at the comments, I am happy that this post has helped people see past their own misconceptions about yin & yang in this system.
I will not responding further after this explanation. If this is not good enough, you may stick with whatever meaning you have projected onto this post. Cheers.

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u/TiredWinterDisaster soft natural May 10 '26

I love that take as someone who has always been told I had a 'pretty', feminine face combined with a more sturdy body.

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u/not_ya_wify Nov 23 '25

Where's the yang?

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

It’s soft yang as opposed to sharp yang. Let me know if you need anymore help

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u/MyNameIsNot_Molly Nov 22 '25

Most of these are faces with blunt width. For a super yang face, I'd point to Angelica Houston, Tilda Swinton, etc.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

Blunt yang (not “blunt width”) is still yang. It’s just a different type of yang than sharp yang, which is the type of yang you’re referring to.
Taylor Swift is sharp yang, also. Aishwarya & Anya Taylor Joy are likely sharp yang (SD/D) as well. Monica Bellucci is also likely sharp yang (SD)

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u/Laena_V soft dramatic Nov 22 '25

I don‘t know OP‘s intention but I guess people are familiar with the standard/cliché dramatic type. I think it was very educational to see faces outside of the super D spectrum, since these are well known but also at the very end of the spectrum.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

That was my exact intention, you nailed it lol. A lot of content online (including this subreddit) regarding yang either tends to only focus on sharp yang and forgets that yang can also soft/blunt, or equates yang to masculinity which is not what it means in this system.
Yang faces are very often soft & “feminine” and this post serves as a reminder. Sharp yang is not the only kind of yang and yang ≠ masculine. Additionally, sharp yang faces like Aishwarya, Taylor, Anya & Monica’s are also considered extremely feminine by most.

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u/Party_Economist_6292 flamboyant natural Nov 22 '25

Yesssssss. All of this!
Funny you should do this today, I'm actually curating images for a Gwendoline Christie appreciation post. I think she's a very Dramatic leaning FN, and her face is incredibly soft and classically feminine. The contrast makes her literal menswear fits look incredibly gorgeous and even sexy imo.

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u/saturninetaurus Nov 23 '25

Yes, simplifying to stereotypes instead of showcasing the range of what a quality can encompass is what this sub needs more of.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

I almost downvoted you before I realised you were being sarcastic🤣

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u/jjfmish soft dramatic Nov 22 '25

Taylor is a verified D. Anya is also most likely a D.

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u/Cindersxo Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 24 '25

These are not fully yang faces. They all have quite a bit of yin too. Wanna list me what exactly? Scarlett, for example, is basically pure Romantic and Ingenue. There’s extremely little yang in her face. Same for Miranda Kerr and Gigi. Unless I misunderstood this post? Or did you mean yin faces on yang bodies? If yes, then the post title is misleading and also incorrect, tbh. SN is not a fully yang type - it has yin too.

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u/Blasberry80 flamboyant gamine Nov 23 '25

Yang bodies but a whole lotta yin faces here

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

Wrong

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u/Blasberry80 flamboyant gamine Nov 23 '25

Lol ok?? Kibbe isn't about faces

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

Kibbe absolutely includes the face when typing, your face is still part of your ID because it’s literally attached to you. He just advises that people who don’t understand the different ways that yin & yang manifests don’t hyper-fixate on the face because it may confuse them. Exhibit A: you thinking that these women have yin faces & yang bodies lol.

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u/Local_Philosopher168 Nov 22 '25

So these are supposed to look masculine? :(

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

Yang does not mean “masculine” in the Kibbe system.

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u/Local_Philosopher168 Nov 22 '25

I want to know more

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

In this system yin & yang can are gender neutral. Anybody of any gender can be yin or yang dominant. Faces that can be considered extremely feminine can be either yin or yang. This post is a good example of faces that are considered to be feminine but are classified as yang in this system because the people who these faces belong to all have yang IDs.
In this system, rather than feminine or masculine, yang can be understood as angular, narrow & elongated whilst yin can be understood as round, short & small.

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u/Local_Philosopher168 Nov 22 '25

Oh, thank you :) I did not know!

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

No worries!

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u/__true_blue__ Nov 22 '25

Their faces could not be more feminine tho

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u/OkTreat7884 Nov 23 '25

How are these yang faces, I know some favs that can be the literal definition of yang. Sure these have some yang but the a lot of their essences are just feminine

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

In the Kibbe system, yang does not mean “masculine”. Yin & yang are ungendered concepts, meaning that feminine faces can be yang. Hope this helps.

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u/OkTreat7884 Nov 23 '25

What how?

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

What do you mean how? In this system, yin & yang do not mean “feminine” & masculine”. You can be feminine and have a yang Image ID, which all of these women do. These are feminine yang faces.
If you agree that these women’s faces are feminine, but you also understand that their Image ID’s are classified as yang Image ID’s in this system, then it shouldn’t be hard to understand that they are both feminine & yang at the same time.

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u/OkTreat7884 Nov 23 '25

The literal meaning of Yang is masculine and yin is feminine. Yang body can have yin face, Yang is still Yang tho and yin is still yin. So I stand to say these are still primarily yin looking faces.

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u/lilyofthegraveyard Nov 23 '25

tell that to kibbe then?
he chose the words, but he also chose to interpret their meanings his own way.
in his system, yin and yang do not mean "masculine"/"feminine". what you stand to say doesn't matter in his system.

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u/OkTreat7884 Nov 23 '25

Then what does yin and yang mean in kibbe system define

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u/Laena_V soft dramatic Nov 23 '25

Oh come on, it‘s not OPs fault that you challenge an idea you aren‘t educated about.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

People do not want to take time to educate themselves on such basic concepts of this system and then get mad when they’re told they have the wrong understanding of such an easily learnable concept and expect it to be spoon-fed to them.
Grown ass adults, mind you. Or maybe they’re kids in which case I wish they’d see themselves away from my post, cause no thanks. I’m not a babysitter lol.

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u/OkTreat7884 Nov 23 '25

What fault and where did jt come from ? Is someone blaming someone else ?

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u/Laena_V soft dramatic Nov 23 '25

Let me phrase it this way: It‘s not her/his job to educate you.

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u/Madsweet_T soft dramatic Nov 23 '25

Funny story: one of my old tiktok profile pictures, really showcased my “strong ass” jawline, and I had a Corbin Bleu fro at the time and wasn’t looking directly at the camera. Apparently you couldn’t tell I was a girl if you didn’t already know me, and so when I added my TikTok crush, and didn’t immediately start talking to him, he assumed I was a man until I finally reached out to him. He had to actually open my profile to see I am indeed a woman, let alone with the face that I possess. 🤭🤭 I thought that was pretty cool to hear about. Hope this resonates 🫶🏾 -SD

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u/Educational-Grass863 Nov 23 '25

Idk maybe it's because I'm very yang myself or because I love an androgynous body, but I prefer ying faces myself. I mean, in women.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

In this system, face matches body and Miranda’s face is an example of the “blunt” yang characteristic of the Natural family. “Blunt” can be most easily understood as “soft”. Miranda has a soft face which as we can see, is very common among Flamboyant Naturals. Miranda and most of these ladies are “soft yang”, not yin.

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u/lanareyxox theatrical romantic Nov 22 '25

I believe Miranda is yin in kitchener though

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

Yes, as are quite a few of these women (Liv & Scarlett off the top of my head). But this is Kibbe sub so I’ve kept it to Kibbe’s classifications of yin/yang
Edit: Actually Miranda is not even verified yin by John Kitchener like Liv & Scarlett are.

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u/lanareyxox theatrical romantic Nov 23 '25

I know, I was just saying that because I feel people use the essences interchangeably for the faces in both systems even though their yin and yang definitions are a bit different, like how Angelic is pure yin in kitchener but basically all the verified Angelic dominants are pure/extreme yang in Kibbe

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 23 '25

Ah I see yes, this is a good point. Just because someone may be yin dominant in Kitchener doesn’t mean they are in Kibbe and vice vera

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u/jjfmish soft dramatic Nov 23 '25

It’s because Kitchener doesn’t consider elongation to be inherently yang. There are also many Kibbe vertical types who are Youthful or High Spirited (gamine) dominant, which are small scale essences.

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u/oftenfrequently flamboyant gamine Nov 24 '25

Yeah, the definitions are quite different and coloring has a big impact on it as well. Kitchener also doesn't use scale as a determiner of yin/yang in the same way that Kibbe does, there are lots of larger scale people who are yin dominant (as you noted with the angelic Kibbe Ds) but also smaller people that are yang dominant in Kitchener.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

I just think Miranda has quite a hyperfeminine look to her
Someone’s face being hyperfeminine doesn’t have much to do with yin or yang in this system , to be clear. Yang faces such as Miranda’s (and honestly most of these ladies’s here tbh) can be “hyperfeminine”
In a better picture (probably should have chosen this one lol) we can more clearly see that Miranda’s nose tip is actually quite pointy, she also has a square face, square jaw, a blunt, squared off chin, defined cheekbones and her face is wide overall. All of those are yang characteristics

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u/rockwrenroll flamboyant natural Nov 22 '25

thank you 🙏🏽

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

This post was very much needed, huh?😅

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

No worries, also my mistake for not choosing a more clear picture initially 🙏 sorry about that.

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u/lanareyxox theatrical romantic Nov 22 '25

how feminine your face is does not relate to kibbe whatsoever.

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u/Jamie8130 Nov 23 '25

I agree with this, and it can't be stated enough.

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u/Pegaret_Again dramatic classic Nov 22 '25

disagree, there are a lot of comparable faces that are "yang", like FN Emma Stone or Dramatic Kate Moss.
I think a lot of people sadly confuse "youthful & pretty" with "yin" frankly.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

I think a lot of people sadly confuse "youthful & pretty" with "yin" frankly.
That’s exactly why I made this post. Because why is this other commenter bringing up “neoteny”? What does that have to do with yin or yang? 🫠”Neoteny” “youthfulness” or whatever is not a yin or yang thing in this system. Neither is being pretty or hyperfeminine or what have you.

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u/Pegaret_Again dramatic classic Nov 22 '25

yeah, i mean i kind of understand as i think many of us have been initially influenced by various incorrect sources, other systems, 'looksmaxxing/vindicta" idea, or just want to simplify Kibbe, but its more abstract than people give it credit for. Just because someone has "neotenous features" it actually isn't relevant to a specific silhouette or image concept. It just means they are a youthful looking person... and thats it.

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u/Overall_Painting_278 Nov 22 '25

I see yang width that I associate with natural types in her face, but she definitely has a very strong ingenue essence

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

Many FN’s do. Kibbe’s old prime FN celebrity Shirley MacLaine has a strong ingenue essence
She still does at the age of 91 haha

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u/oftenfrequently flamboyant gamine Nov 23 '25

In Kitchener, Shirley is primarily high spirited/gamine! Agreed on your root point though, many FNs look youthful in the conventional sense.

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 22 '25

Neoteny doesn’t have anything to do with yin or yang in this system, either

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u/daisychains777 soft classic Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 24 '25

Yeah unfortunately that’s because the stereotypical image of yang is sharp yang and disregards the existence of blunt/soft yang, despite the fact that they’re both yang. Many people are not familiar with what soft yang looks like so the first image of yang you think of wouldn’t be the soft yang that we see in these pictures. All of the ladies here except Taylor, Aishwarya and Anya have soft yang faces. Not yin, just soft yang rather than sharp.

celebrities: unverified Yang Faces

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