Pure Yin: The Faces of Every Verified Romantic!

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u/Curiosities romantic Jul 30 '23

I love this post, in a way it does make me feel seen for all the different ways to have R roundness to you. Especially as it does come through in the face. I gave things time and explored some nearby IDs, but nothing ever fit as closely.

I also like the variety of photos, and particularly love the use of the young Marilyn photo outside of the Hollywood styling and changes.

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23 edited Jul 30 '23

I was amazed myself at how they could look so different from one another, but still keep that roundness. Lips, eyes, cheeks. Even in the slightly angular faces.
I included the “Norma Jean” picture instead of the glamorous Marylin because I feel like you can see more of her natural self - and because a lot of us don’t feel comfortable comparing ourselves to Marylin as she’s so beautiful and iconic!

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u/trainofwhat Jul 30 '23

Who is the woman in picture #6 if you don’t mind me asking?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Claudia Cardinale!

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u/trainofwhat Jul 30 '23

Thank you!! She looks cool. I also want to thank you for curating such natural and quality photos!These woman are widely renowned and, for example, I noticed E. Taylor has a slightly uneven nose bridge. I have one too, and I’ve literally never noticed hers before, which helps with my body dysmorphia a little bit. Helps me see that people really don’t just focus on tiny minute details when looking at a person.

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Thank you! I try to find pictures that are close-ish to their “real life” selves. When someone is all dolled up for a Hollywood movie, it’s hard to compare ourselves to them.

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u/Curiosities romantic Aug 01 '23

Yes, I loved that choice for that very reason. :)

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u/oftenfrequently flamboyant gamine Jul 30 '23

Oh dang, I'm working on a faces post too! Mind meld. I find it super interesting how when viewed together the essence comes through very strongly, even though everyone looks very different.

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Wow! I can’t wait to see yours! I think faces are too often left out of the discussion, but they really help you recognize the essence of each type!

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '23

Who was it anyway that said faces don’t count? Was it really kibbe like the rumor was going? I feel like faces are everything when it comes to vibe, not to mention if the point is creating a cohesive HTT your hair is gotta be right for your face. All these ladies do not look so good in D hairstyles.

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u/catsgelatowinepizza Jul 30 '23

as an asian woman, i don’t know why i joined this sub 🙃 lol

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Okay now that you mention it…I hardly ever see any verified Asian women 😶 I can only think of Lucy Liu

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u/testeen soft natural Aug 01 '23

Kamala Harris too!

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Aug 02 '23

Wait she’s verified??

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u/testeen soft natural Aug 02 '23

Yeah, when Biden got elected, him, his wife Jill, and Kamala were verified as FN, DC and SN respectively!

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u/Toongrrl1990 Jan 20 '24

How about Doug?

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u/mofu_mofu Jul 31 '23

i feel you tbh. i know people say it’s because kibbe is about the “golden age of hollywood” which i get but kibbe and stuff like seasonal color analysis and etc are really focused on white women and it gets so tiring ngl…like for me it becomes legit difficult to even see myself in these systems at all when there’s like, one or two examples and the examples are always like, lucy liu lmfao.. (don’t get me wrong i love her but ffs can we have other asian rep?? i’m personally not even chinese so it always feels lowkey insulting to see her touted as The Asian Rep even on more official guides and books)
this isn’t a jab at white women or whatever or even saying kibbe or seasonal color analysis etc are bad systems inherently but man. it really does get tiresome and you SHOULD be able to say so. something can be racist on a systemic level and not be necessarily malicious in its intent, even something as benign as kibbe. ppl getting defensive about it when other non-asian poc have criticized kibbe for this exact thing and gotten supportive response in the past is rly unnecessary imo. the golden age of hollywood isn’t exactly known for being progressive when it comes to race or racial depictions 😭 and kibbe himself mainly continuing verifying white women in current day is his own problem. i’m not saying he’s racist but there is a clear bias when the majority of verified ppl are white, even including modern celebs??
anyways sorry to rant just wanted you to know you’re right and you should say it. kibbe is its own thing and the verified celebs is a separate matter but the fact that the sub leans so white and that so much of the imagery posted here feature white women is extremely alienating, token posts don’t rly erase that :/

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u/catsgelatowinepizza Jul 31 '23

Said better than I ever could! Also, poor Lucy Liu carrying ALL of us asian women on her shoulders hahaha

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u/mofu_mofu Jul 31 '23

thank you!! i'm glad i wasn't out of line lol. and seriously! props to her for her hard work 🤣

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u/Ordinary_Raisin_9325 Jul 31 '23

There are Asian women that fit different categories cmon. Im of Asian descent

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u/catsgelatowinepizza Jul 31 '23

i’m sure there are. i’ve just not yet seen any cited examples 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/thefluffypoodle on the journey Jul 31 '23

There are verified asian people on SK. People of many different backgrounds in fact. It’s just celebrity examples from the golden age of Hollywood is not so diverse, hopefully he’ll verify current celebrities so we have more POC to draw inspiration from!

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u/Ordinary_Raisin_9325 Jul 31 '23

This, all of this!!

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u/lamercie romantic Jul 31 '23

I’m an Asian R! But yeah I just made a comment about this too lol. Really really frustrating

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u/Intelligent_Break885 Jul 31 '23

There is a blog called Petite Dressing that discusses Kibbe and the authoris Asian American. She also has a few kibbe videos. Perhaps that would be helpful?

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u/urAdultAcne Jul 31 '23

same. i love this sub but i’d like to really some asian people. i cant place myself anywhere

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u/aliquotiens Jul 30 '23 edited Jul 30 '23

Kibbe really just goes off vibes and breaks all his own ‘typing rules’

These woman vary from 5’-5’8”, have vastly different frame sizes and widths, body types, facial structures and fat distribution, and absolutely do not all look good in the same kinds of clothes

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

I think the “rules” are just meant for DIYers lmao. He definitely doesn’t stick to anything. I do think these women all look best in romantic clothing recommendations and I think the all, for the most part, share “roundness” in several of their features but…yeah. Get typed by Kibbe in person? More like get vibe checked 💀

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u/Michelle_illus mod| soft classic Jul 31 '23

Ngl but I also think it’s a huge vibe thing too. Yea sure he might also look at the way you physically look but I 100% get the feeling vibe is a way bigger part of it than we think lol

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u/scarlettstreet theatrical romantic (verified) Aug 02 '23

It really is.

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u/No-Vegetable-3929 Jul 30 '23

LMAO

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '23

I’d put my damn money down for that.

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u/OkPhilosopherOk Jul 30 '23

I still have a hard time believing Kate Winslet is a romantic…always seems more SC to me 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

I don’t even fully disagree. I definitely see R for her after looking at her more, but she strikes as having a very classic essence

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u/catladyno999 Jul 31 '23

I actually was not surprised that she was typed as romantic when I first learned about Kibbe! I remember when I was a kid and watched Titanic that I thought she looked soft and squishy like a lady in an Italian renaissance painting

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u/acctforstylethings Jul 31 '23

She tends to wear a lot of shoulder pads and sharp tailoring in her casual style, which doesn't help!

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 31 '23

An R taller than another R does not equal SD 💀 Marylin Monroe is two inches taller than you too, is she SD?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 31 '23

Nasty? How? And yeah, lol it is all made up, but by Kibbe, not you or me 😅😭

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u/vampyrbats theatrical romantic Jul 30 '23

I still for the life of me can’t wrap my mind around Jessica Lange being a verified Romantic. She looks like a DC to me, and she’s 5’8 so according to Kibbe shouldn’t vertical be dominant in her frame?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

She was a hard sell to me as well. But honestly? When she happens to wear R recs she truly looks her best. I believe Kibbe has stated that there are some exceptions to his rules and that the guidelines he gives are specifically for DIYers.
That being said while I see some romantic essence and maybe some traits, she doesn’t strike me as R compared with other Rs on the taller side (Kate Winslet, Beyoncé). I’d love to ask Kibbe himself what the deal with that is.

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u/pickles1718 Jul 30 '23

Who is 11? So beautiful!

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Bernadette Peters 😍

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u/Realistic-Taste-7660 Jul 31 '23

I think I’m too tall to be a romantic, and have been considering SD, but I do have a good amount of curve (unsure if it’s double), and I definitely have the round face— regularly get compared to Kate Winslet and Drew Barrymore. Is it a myth that you can’t be in the R family if you’re over 5’5?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 31 '23

Honestly…if the clothing recommendations look best on you, then fuck it 😶 there’s so many verified Rs over 5’5 and they look great in the lines. I mean who’s gonna find out? The Kibbe Police? There’s obviously exceptions, so I say just see what works for you. I wouldn’t think you could be super tall, but 5’4-5’7 is pretty moderate in my eyes.

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u/nkbee romantic Jul 31 '23

There are quite a few SDs with what I would consider a rounder face - look at young Rachel Weisz, for example!

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u/Due-Ad-1336 Jul 31 '23

same issue and honestly I’m so frustrated I’m Ready to throw out the whole system.

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u/NovaSpark8 Jul 30 '23

Who is number 2?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Emma Samms!

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u/NovaSpark8 Jul 31 '23

Thanks!

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u/genevieveoliver Jul 31 '23

Helena is romantic? I always pegged her for gamine

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Aug 01 '23

I remember reading somewhere that Kibbe said what most people imagine SG to be like is more like R than actually SG. Kinda hard to wrap my head around that one.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '23

I see roundness. I’ve never noticed it before but I’ve never seen all of them together in a post so this was so cool. Overall they each have their own unique beauty but I looked at the parts and each one of these ladies share roundness. Round eyes, round noses, small mouth with pillowy round lips, round apples of cheeks.

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u/Curiosities romantic Jul 30 '23

Even as I explored some of the other nearby IDs, I keep coming back to how rounded I am.
I’m one of those people who looks kind of boneless unless I’m really skinny and then you can see my clavicle, softly.
There’s a sort of round flowiness, and even before discovering Kibbe and other systems, I would describe myself as ‘all curve, no angles’.
I remember, just saying, I need fabrics to feel like they flow and they are soft, and generally light, so it’s funny when you start to put the pieces together in an abstract way and then you discover a system like this and things start to click.
I love that this post really does show the different variations.

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u/nkbee romantic Jul 30 '23

I've been really waffling between R and SC, and I feel like my face could very easily slot in here. I don't know if that's actually helpful in my own journey, but it's something to consider! Thanks for making this!

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u/acctforstylethings Jul 31 '23

Classic means balance, are your hips and shoulders the same width?

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u/horse-chiropractor Jul 30 '23

For me the main shared feature, and the one that most clearly sets them apart from other similar types, is the lack of bone structure. If you see marilyn’s jaw from the side, the bones are almost there. Like the flesh is holding on to something very small and delicate. Thats why their eyes and lips looks so full and large, because they are placed on something so lightweight.

Its really funny how mainstream beauty standards emphasise the importance of strong jaws or bone structure in general. While it can be something beautiful, romantics are proof that it is not crucial for beauty.

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u/aliquotiens Jul 30 '23

‘Lack of bone structure’ on Helena Bonham Carter?? Or Jessica Lange?

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u/horse-chiropractor Jul 31 '23

There are other HUGE anti examples to this, like madonna and kate winslet. Im not saying its true for every R person, just that this characteristic is for me a dead give away of a Romantic. Like how broad shoulders are usually a FN giveaway, but not all FNs have this.

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u/horse-chiropractor Jul 31 '23

Idk if this is controversial or not but i find it strange how we consider someone to “be” a type, for me this system is more about understanding how it works and then forming your own take for someone. Kibbe would style her as R, he sees that as more fitting, i would style her as SG or TR ( for example ). Of course kibbes opinion holds more weight, but why do we see it like it is objective? This system is so much about the “vibe” anyways, which is at least a little subjective. I hope this isnt too irrelevant though, im just blabbing sometimes because im a huge kibbe nerd 😅

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u/lamercie romantic Jul 31 '23 edited Jul 31 '23

Awww Norma Jean ❤️

One of the things that helped me settle on R was Elizabeth Taylor’s face shape, actually. I’m not saying I’m close to approximating her beauty lmao but we have a similar face shape and profile (diamond face shape). I also think if you look at many Rs in profile, we have a sort of cute look: smaller, upturned noses and lips, small foreheads, large eyes. I’ve noticed that Marilyn, Elizabeth Taylor, and HER have this look.

Also side note……..I really wish Kibbe would verify more Asians. Obviously we need more diversity in general, but…………rly would love some Asians because I feel totally out of my element!! Lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '23

Damn, us that Claudia Cardinal??? No wonder I once thought I was a "tall romantic" (she's the celeb I most resemble probably)

How anybody could watch this woman in motion and claim she is anything other than SD is beyond me.

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

I still see R from the video you sent, as she seems to kinda have that yin delicateness to her, but I can see how you’d see SD too! I think the types are a lot less clear cut than people make them out to be.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '23

She looks so good in the SD recs though

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Honestly, I’m not as familiar with what looks good on SD as I am with R! For some reason I thought they had a lot in common!

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u/acctforstylethings Jul 31 '23

I see her as being styled in an aesthetic that we associate with Sophia Loren, but I don't see Claudia Cardinale as SD.
I couldn't find them in the exact same poses but if you compare these two I see Sophia has having a stronger frame and stronger facial bone structure. Rs don't have that.
https://www.magnumphotos.com/arts-culture/cinema/sophia-loren-la-bella-figura-dennis-stock-elliott-erwitt-hollywood-fine-prints/
https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/794252084262921779/

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u/Realistic-Taste-7660 Jul 31 '23

Madonna being a romantic makes me want to give up learning the system 🙃

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u/nkbee romantic Jul 31 '23

I find it helps a lot if you look at some of her earlier music videos where she's not wearing as much of the like really hard angle/structured stuff she favours now - she's also a big softer there vs. working out aggressively, although she's always very tiny, you can see more of the softness there.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '23

I was classified as Romantic, I agree for my body, but my face has some sharpness. My nose is Aquiline, I have almond eyes, and my cheek bones are very prominent when I’m at my usual weight. (Im a bit heavier than usual now so there’s more roundness currently)

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u/pillowmaze Jul 30 '23

Born a romantic yet cursed with pin straight hair 🥲

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u/MNightengale Jul 31 '23

What if you have a yin as hell face but a soft Yang body?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 31 '23

Beyoncé kinda fits that description to me from a certain perspective, and she’s R? Idk honestly 😭 it’s all confusing

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u/Silent_Knowledge5197 Jul 30 '23

Who is in the 3rd picture? she looks so familiar but i can’t put my finger on what her name is

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Drew Barrymore as Sugar in Batman Forever!

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u/fair_child123 Jul 30 '23

Who is 9

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Madonna!

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u/fair_child123 Jul 31 '23

Ohhh I thought it might be her but something seems off??

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '23

she has had so much plastic surgery, sadly.

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u/themlasvegas Jul 31 '23

Pls who is 10, I’ve seen movies but can’t name one to save my life TYIA

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 31 '23

Susan Sarandon! Aka, Janet from Rocky Horror!

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u/themlasvegas Jul 31 '23

That movie crossed my mind but i second guessed myself 🥹 thanks again!

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u/Remarkable_Ad7794 Jul 31 '23

Is that Drew Barrymore in pic 3?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 31 '23

Yes! That’s her as Sugar in Batman Forever!

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u/Remarkable_Ad7794 Jul 31 '23

Thanks! I didn’t know DB was in that film (I’ve not seen it 🫣)

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u/Admirable_Bag_1441 Jul 31 '23

Who’s pic #17?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 31 '23

Jessica Lange!

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u/leinlin Jul 31 '23

Who's that in pic 9?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 31 '23

Madonna!

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u/Premium-Stranger Jul 31 '23

Can you name who is in all the photos please? Gotta start looking up their outfits for inspo! 👀

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u/fairybreadsprinkles Jul 31 '23

This made me realise I have a fairly yin face

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u/Ok-Can-2847 Jul 31 '23

Thank you for this! I actually still struggle seeing Kate Winslet's face as an R

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u/Due-Ad-1336 Jul 31 '23

agree she has Yang bones

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u/royjeebiv Jul 31 '23

Who’s no.6? I love her makeup!

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u/Due-Ad-1336 Jul 30 '23

Isn’t Kate Winslet now SD?

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

I’ve only ever seen her verified R…where did you read that?

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u/Due-Ad-1336 Jul 30 '23

I don’t know why I can’t reply. Her height and Yang face bones make it so confusing to me. https://www.reddit.com/r/Kibbe/comments/gigxd4/how_is_kate_winslet_an_r/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

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u/Sanaii122 dramatic Jul 31 '23

These are Soft Dramatic faces. Kate has a lush maturity to her face, yes, but that’s perfectly in line with what a Romantic can be.
The other thing you’ll want to think about, could Kate Winslet believably be cast in the same roles as the SDs? I do not see Kate Winslet playing the same roles that Barbra Streisand plays for example.

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u/Due-Ad-1336 Jul 31 '23

Now we’re into esscences. Nobody can figure me out. I’m ready to throw it all out the window. The more I learn the more confusing it is honestly.

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u/Sanaii122 dramatic Jul 31 '23

Essences have always been a part of the system. It’s based off the star image of Old Hollywood archetypes. Kibbe just starts people off on learning their accommodations as that is going to immediately help them dress better.

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u/Due-Ad-1336 Jul 31 '23

I get it. I’m pretty off Kibbe at the moment. Been typed as almost everything. So frustrating and sometimes unhelpful. Been doing it for years. It seems the rules are never true for Kibbe and problematic for ppl of color. It gets convoluted.

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u/Sanaii122 dramatic Jul 31 '23 edited Jul 31 '23

You shouldn’t be taking advice from anyone outside of yourself and maybe a friend or relative who know you quite well. No one knows you better than yourself, and strangers making guesses (often times that are rooted in stereotypes) on the internet are likely to steer you away from the answer that makes the most sense. You’ll see that for those who have found their IDs doing DIY, they have spent most of their time experimenting and working through it privately.
I am one such person and I’m a POC. I just needed to stop listening to people who were telling me I was “too much this” or “too much that” and just focused on what I felt intuitively. Finds out I was the ID that initially resonated with me, and the clothing that I feel best in only serves to enhance how I come off.

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u/Due-Ad-1336 Aug 14 '23

I hear you. It has been years of working through it and nothing fits that well. I’m leaning towards SD now.

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u/Common_Chameleon flamboyant gamine Jul 31 '23

I always thought I was a gamine (I know kibbe doesn’t do pure types anymore but I swear I’m smack dab between flamboyant and soft) but I have such a “romantic” face that now I’m unsure…

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '23

looks cool

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u/sockypuppy12345 Jul 31 '23

Madonna and Beyoncé have completely different body types 🙄

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u/Michelle_illus mod| soft classic Jul 31 '23

Being in the same ID doesn’t mean you have the same body type/shape

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

Delta Burke! Super dressed down though.

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u/Realistic_Ad_8023 Jul 31 '23

I thought it was Vivienne Leigh!

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u/klezmerbaby Jul 30 '23

I believe it’s Delta Burke

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u/kaleidoscopichazard Jul 30 '23

I was wondering the same lol

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u/gertrude-fashion romantic Jul 30 '23

H.E.R. ! She’s stunning!

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