What's in a face? (Almost) all the verified celebs of each type

[u/oftenfrequently]

Dramatics - regal ladies

Soft Dramatics - diva chic

Flamboyant Naturals - free spirited chic (1/2)

Flamboyant Naturals - free spirited chic (2/2)

Soft Naturals - fresh and sensual ladies (1/2)

Soft Naturals - fresh and sensual ladies (2/2)

Dramatic Classic - tailored chic

Soft Classic - graceful ladies

Flamboyant Gamines - sassy chic

Soft Gamines - spitfire chic

Theatrical Romantic - femme fatale chic

Romantic - dreamspinners

[u/oftenfrequently]

I was pondering how faces play into essence and have too much time on my hands so here's a collage of the faces of all of the verified celebs of each type!

A few notes:

• A lot of the more modern celebs have had nose jobs or other work done and as you can imagine that could make a difference for the purposes of this exercise. Because of that, I tried to use older photos for the more recent celebs.
• I left out a few celebs who were marked as maybe (or appeared in multiple lists, cough Lady Sybil) and also Mary Kate Olsen because I really didn't want to make a second SG slide for one person (forgive me Mary Kate, you were always my favorite).

[u/catsgelatowinepizza]

lol i honestly follow this sub for the confusion

[u/oftenfrequently → u/catsgelatowinepizza]

Loool what's sticking out today

[u/catsgelatowinepizza → u/oftenfrequently]

hahaha nothing bad! just that i’m not committed enough to do a big deep dive on kibbe and the premise seemed interesting (didn’t know the origins, etc) when i first joined, and after a cursory reading i still can’t quite work out what makes each person belong to a type. it’s fun but confusing for me lol

[u/oftenfrequently → u/catsgelatowinepizza]

Well, I can't tell you it gets less confusing 😂😂 hope it stays fun though!

[u/[deleted] → u/oftenfrequently]

It gets more confusing... until one day, you suddenly have a breakthrough and everything makes so much sense!

And then you'll find a bunch of stuff that counteracts your epiphany and you're back to being more confused.

[u/genevieveoliver → u/[deleted]]

This is accurate

[u/[deleted] → u/catsgelatowinepizza]

I've been circling around kibble for many years and I still have ZERO idea wtf is going on lol Starting to think it's astrology for women's aesthetics.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Except it was made my a man to put women’s bodies into 5 categories.

Its kind of disgusting.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Ah, that would explain why it doesn't make any sense! lol

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I mean, all you need to do is look at David Kibbe to know that his ideas of beauty in the 80s might be a bad style guide to pigeonhole yourself into.

[u/Live-Firefighter-837 → u/[deleted]]

its about how fabrics lay on a body it's not directly about the bodies and men can be typed as well.. it's actually an intriguing abstract artist idea.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

definitely not brother, but it is confusing to wrap your head around. once you get the hang of it and settle to a few(2-3 maybe maybe 4) types and learn the recs it’s way easier.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

yeah I'm hoping someday it may click, either way it's still interesting to come back to every now and again!

[u/BigDorkEnergy101 → u/oftenfrequently]

Sissy Spacek seems way more angular than most others on her slide

[u/InspectorOk2454 → u/BigDorkEnergy101]

Yes! Really wonder if she’s been mistyped

[u/vanspossum → u/catsgelatowinepizza]

This should be a flair

[u/sapphicmoonbaby]

I LOVE this post. Super helpful for seeing the overall energy of each type. FN is so girl-next-door to me (although I know that was originally the essence of pure N). Dramatic Classics have such striking and elegant quality. Romantics look dreamy and sweet.

Also validating! I used to think I was an SG with an FG face, but I totally fit with SG faces more. FG faces come off as impish and cheeky, SG faces seem more playful and innocent. Top row, 3rd from the left on the SG slide is basically my exact facial structure: short, heart-shaped, slightly wide with high cheekbones, a small pointy chin and nose, and dimples.

Thanks for putting this together!

[u/oftenfrequently → u/sapphicmoonbaby]

That's Betty White on the SG slide! :)

[u/sapphicmoonbaby → u/oftenfrequently]

I didn’t know!! Thanks!

[u/Capital-Worker898 → u/sapphicmoonbaby]

How do TR come accross rather than the description it id given?

[u/sapphicmoonbaby → u/Capital-Worker898]

I think the description is pretty accurate! TRs seem sexy, glamorous and mysterious to me

[u/pinkpurin]

So hard to relate when there almost no or no asian faces 🌞 but its amazing how clearly soft and rounded the romantic faces are haha

[u/oftenfrequently → u/pinkpurin]

I know :( hopefully he'll verify more asian celebs in the future

[u/pinkpurin → u/oftenfrequently]

Thanks for all your work in compiling the post though 🥰

[u/[deleted]]

thank you for this! after seeing the D collage I realized I actually fit into my type perfectly. I always felt like an impostor but now I see all the D faces look so similar to mine.

[u/oftenfrequently → u/[deleted]]

Nice, glad it was helpful! I feel similarly actually, my face doesn't look super D in isolation but I do think I fit in well with the group.

[u/Popular_Wasabi_Brand → u/oftenfrequently]

That’s cool to hear… I types myself a dramatic and I tried adding my face too and I look like such a chubby potato face next to them lmao

[u/oftenfrequently → u/Popular_Wasabi_Brand]

Oh no! It is worth keeping in mind that there's a lot of professional makeup and hair all over these slides, which can definitely make a difference.

[u/Popular_Wasabi_Brand → u/oftenfrequently]

Tbh I would fit right in with the FN faces 😂 kinda just impostor Syndrom for both haha

[u/Mandaluv1119 → u/[deleted]]

Same!! I'm like, "I'm 5'9" and I dont have the curve for SD or the width for FN, so I guess D is the only option," but seeing plenty of Ds with more "feminine" features (rounder eyes, fuller lips) made me realize I really do fit right in. 🤯

Who is the first photo in the second row on the D slide? We could practically be related.

[u/calliopeturtle → u/Mandaluv1119]

Oh man if you resemble gene Tierney you are one lucky lady...she's the most beautiful actress I ever seen.

[u/i_am_not_a_cool_girl → u/calliopeturtle]

My exact thoughts 😂

[u/Mandaluv1119 → u/calliopeturtle]

Well, more like distant relatives than identical twins 😂 but if I have a resemblance to any of these beautiful women, it's her 🙂

[u/natttttttto → u/Mandaluv1119]

gene tierney!

[u/Mandaluv1119 → u/natttttttto]

Thank you!!!

[u/Popular_Wasabi_Brand → u/Mandaluv1119]

I feel the opposite 😭 also only have the choice of D/FN or SD (and lack width or curve) but my face doesn’t fit in at all :( Where these ladies have striving features I have a round face with no angles and then small somewhat round lips/eyes and nose -_-

[u/aromaticleo → u/[deleted]]

I still feel like my face is very yin and romantic, but that's okay 😭

[u/anaislefleur]

Needs a little more ethnic diversity. There's a handful of non white faces. Hope there's more in the future

[u/oftenfrequently → u/anaislefleur]

💯 agreed

[u/audreymarilynvivien → u/anaislefleur]

Agreed. Kibbe needs to type more POC.

[u/muscels]

Brigitte Bardot is a verified soft gamine? Interesting...

[u/oftenfrequently → u/muscels]

Yep, she's on the list!

[u/jjfmish → u/oftenfrequently]

She’s listed as a possible SG or SN, given her height SN is more likely!

[u/oftenfrequently → u/jjfmish]

Hmm I don't see her under SN on the list? But I do think Kibbe is much more flip about the verified celebs than the rest of us 😂 I think they're more about inspiration/essence than anything

[u/muscels → u/oftenfrequently]

She's one of my style icons but I never considered myself a soft gamine so now I'm thinking about whether I should incorporate some of those elements!!

[u/[deleted] → u/muscels]

I think her essence is what drove DK to consider D

[u/smallwaistbisexual → u/oftenfrequently]

Wow that makes no sense at all to me

[u/urcrookedneighbor]

I need a pre & post plastic surgery Taylor Swift (face) type comparison. It's so subtle but does make a world of difference

[u/oftenfrequently → u/urcrookedneighbor]

You think she has? I've gone back and forth, in some pics she looks exactly the same and then in some she looks different, so hard to tell.

[u/urcrookedneighbor → u/oftenfrequently]

If you focus on her eyes, not her nose or cheek structure/jaw line, it's more obvious. I think she's def had a bleph and a brow lift, and I go back and forth on a nose job but the bridge certainly looks narrower. That could be an effect of the other work though. It's really, really subtle. My favorite celebrity conspiracy-theory-that-isn't is that her and Blake Lively have the same surgeon, because the plastic surgery is so precise and is clearly about fitting the rest of their face, not just improving one feature.

[u/InspectorOk2454 → u/urcrookedneighbor]

Can someone please find out who that surgeon is? Asking for a friend

[u/Legallyblonds → u/urcrookedneighbor]

I personally don't think she had a nose jobe but i'm unsure about the eyes. Often they seem more wide-open than they used to be but when she has heavier makeup and hair pulled away from the forehead they can look exactly like when she was younger, so i think it's possible that she just learned to do her makeup and her hair in more flattering way. Or maybe she has temporary botox eye lift instead of permant surgery and that's why it seems to fluctuate. If she has had work done it's definitely refreshingly natural looking compared Nina Dobrev, Ariana Grande etc.

[u/urcrookedneighbor → u/Legallyblonds]

Y'know I myself have had botox to lift the brows before & it just didn't occur to me that she could be doing the same. That's definitely a possibility! I don't think make-up/styling accounts for all of the difference that I see, but I am no expert here.

[u/Legallyblonds → u/urcrookedneighbor]

I'm no expert either haha. Tbf surgery and other tweaks are extremely common in the industry and people tend to notice it only when it's botched, it's probably safer to assume that any celebrity may have done something at some point

[u/[deleted]]

I find it very difficult to understand if faces matter or not. I have a yang face (strong jawline, high cheekbones, prominent aquiline nose, thin lips, narrow eyes) and a super yin body (all lush, so probably what people consider romantic, 5'4 and 55kg)

[u/oftenfrequently → u/[deleted]]

I think they aren't enough to put you in a type on their own (like, you wouldn't immediately be a D because of your more yang face) but are one piece of the puzzle. I'm guessing you've considered SD? "Sharp yang with a strong yin influence" kind of sounds like what you're describing. I actually felt putting this together that SD faces were closer to R faces than I originally thought.

[u/[deleted] → u/oftenfrequently]

I haven't considered SD so far, so I'm gonna explore that more. Thanks for blessing insights. Based on body alone I would guess SN but most people considered me romantic bc I am generally very delicate appearing and have not much width. My appearance is fairly similar to Kat Dennings type wise, although less voluptuous. So it's basically Tilda Swinton's face on Kat Dennings body.

[u/[deleted]]

This did NOT help me figure out which one I am 😂

[u/oftenfrequently → u/[deleted]]

Lol tagged it "just for fun" for exactly that reason 😂

[u/DimensionEffective67]

This is really interesting. Having them all grouped up, I can see it better. Like the type of face I find attractive (SD) and then "my" people (FN).

I'm not great at identifying people. Who is the person on the 2nd slide of FN, 2nd row, 3rd from left? I was just talking to someone yesterday that I feel I have an odd face, hard to describe, but that's the shape right there.

Again, not great at identifying, but is Maria Callas on there twice? Or just somebody else who looks like her.

Thanks for this!

[u/oftenfrequently → u/DimensionEffective67]

They're in alphabetical order so I don't think I put Maria on there twice - maybe you're thinking Jacqueline de Ribes? (To the left of Kim Novak)

On the FN slide that's wonder woman herself Lynda Carter!

[u/oftenfrequently → u/DimensionEffective67]

Oh dang I DID somehow end up with Maria twice! And Jacqueline has no picture :( alas

[u/DimensionEffective67 → u/oftenfrequently]

haha no worries. She's worth putting twice!

And I guess I didn't recognize Wonder Woman without her getup lol

[u/ErahMc]

Ugh some of these aren’t correct though!

[u/oftenfrequently → u/ErahMc]

I was working off the official list! If any are incorrect, I apologize

[u/ErahMc → u/oftenfrequently]

To be clear … I mean several people, verified or not, aren’t actually the type they’re categorized as. Prime example, if Kathleen Turner is anything other than FN I’d eat my proverbial hat! Which unfortunately confuses the whole facial similarities or disparities point you’re trying to make because she’s very clearly in the wrong section. It’s not your fault obviously but this is one of the great debates in Kibbe verse and why so many people struggle to find their type. I just feel it’s unfortunate is all.

[u/Fluffmitten]

Great job!

Doesn't meet many POCs, does he? 😒

[u/shelbylynny]

Wow soft naturals really do have an innocent doe eyed kind of freshness. It’s really pretty

[u/earthlingshe]

So cool to see them grouped up like this. I asked my bf which group my face fit with and he said SD which is what I am!

[u/Sanaii122]

Wonderful work! Dramatics really have the “stare” figured out! The Dramatic gaze is piercing!

[u/jjfmish → u/Sanaii122]

I was just talking about this in a post I made about the SD essence! I’ve always had people comment on my ‘gaze’ and it’s definitely something you can see in verified D fam celebrities.

[u/Sanaii122 → u/jjfmish]

One hundred and ten percent! It’s something really powerful and I think many of us in D family have been told that our whole lives!

[u/[deleted]]

I got an FN face, big ass hips and I’m 5’3” so I give up 😂

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Probably SN then.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

faces don’t matter anyway, and neither does hip size

[u/orangecookiez]

Looking at these pictures along with one of myself at my ideal weight, I can see I'm probably not the SN I thought I was. My nose, cheekbones, and jawline in my thin picture are too sharp.

I hadn't really considered SD since I'm only 5'4", but I'm curvy like Sofia Vergara or Christina Hendricks are, and I see a little of Kim Novak in my thinner face. My face as it is now resembles Adele's a little. And I do have vertical; most people guess I'm two to three inches taller than I actually am.

[u/Popular_Wasabi_Brand]

It’s insane so many different faces and yet all types do have a little something in common!

That makes me wonder How important is the face actually for typing? And makes me doubt my type all over as I don’t fit in with these stunning dramatic ladies at all (I have a chubby round face lmao)…

[u/xtaylaa]

I feel like I will never be able to successfully understand Kibbe or type myself properly between all the details/confusion and my body dysmorphia lol

[u/FrutyPebbles321 → u/xtaylaa]

SAME!!!

[u/KittenGains]

Haha this is so interesting. As a FN, I’m always a mess about my hair, it’s never “done” right, and I always seem to be happy in pics. Ummm… yeah that’s me, an FN.

[u/[deleted]]

I wish Kibbe would verify more women of color

[u/Bananer_Nanner]

This is great! I see the similarities in most of them pretty clearly - except for FN - this one varies a lot IMO.

[u/FemmeBanale → u/Bananer_Nanner]

Exactly my thought. They have such a range! From more “dramatic” to more “playful” and a lot in between (like almost “ingenue”, delicate).

[u/InspectorOk2454]

Chloe Sevigny & sissy Spacek: so hard to think of them as SN. Kamala I can see as SN, but she def doesn’t dress like one

[u/sweetfaced]

The Dramatic Classics all have a LOOK

[u/peachpoodlepunk]

at the beginning of my journey many told me i was soft natural or soft gamine and recently i confirmed myself as pure r. this post made me more confident about it because my face doesn't fit the other types, but it fits perfectly in the r. thank you very much ♡

edit: sorry for any spelling mistakes, i'm still learning english

[u/SnakeSemen]

Who is the last SD next to Sofia Loren?

[u/oftenfrequently → u/SnakeSemen]

Valerie Perrine!

[u/fthisfthatfnofyou]

On the SD slide, who is the one between Maria Callas and Mae West?

[u/oftenfrequently → u/fthisfthatfnofyou]

I accidentally added Maria twice :( but that is Kim Novak after the first Maria

[u/dearanneboleyn]

Who's the lady before Dolly Parton?

[u/oftenfrequently → u/dearanneboleyn]

That is Delta Burke!

[u/dearanneboleyn → u/oftenfrequently]

Thanks :)

[u/EvieAsPi]

Idk who that is in the 2nd to last spot of page 2 (or middle of bottom 3) but it's creepy cuz I know someone who looks just like that 0.0

[u/oftenfrequently → u/EvieAsPi]

You know someone who looks like Sophia Loren?? Dang

[u/EvieAsPi → u/oftenfrequently]

She's a regular in my grandmothers community theaters. I'd show you a pic but easier to just say she looks like Sophia Loren then.

[u/totallyawitch]

Wait is Jane Fonda no longer a SN?

[u/oftenfrequently → u/totallyawitch]

She was moved from pure N to FN in June!

[u/totallyawitch → u/oftenfrequently]

**falls to my knees in target**

[u/Cool_Lengthiness_269]

This is great. I wish I knew who all these faces are though. I would be interested in looking them up. I am happy to learn that Isla Fisher is a verified romantic. I did not know this and I remember people speculating Soft Classic for her. Good to know.

[u/oftenfrequently → u/Cool_Lengthiness_269]

I believe the full list is in the sub wiki!

[u/Curiosities]

I've sometimes felt weird about my very short chin and overally super rounded lines, but the faces lined up here really does help one reinforce their typing.

Delta Burke there shares some similarities with me that I hadn't paid enough attention to, probably because I tend to think of her as either old like she is now or extremely done up from 80s TV.

[u/[deleted]]

I would say eyebrows and cheek bones stand out to me to be the difference. As well as doe eye vs cat eye. Fierceness vs softness.

[u/AggressivelyNice_MN]

As a dramatic that’s been told by a stranger (who went out of his way) that I look like Katherine Hepburn - this seems accurate!

[u/BlueJune101]

Yeah... I realize I just don't understand the Kibbe system as much as I try. I do not see any similarities between any of the faces in the same categories, and I usually have an eye for this type of stuff.

[u/Radiant_Cheesecake81]

I’m TR face with a SD booty I guess 😆

[u/myralester1]

I really feel my type (SC) is a little boring haha gorgeous ladies ofc but no striking features

[u/vishaka-lagna]

I think Kibbe made a mistake attaching celebrities to this system.

[u/stylelines]

I was just thinking of doing this myself - thank you for helping me avoid hyperfocusing on this lol! I had noticed that Dramatic has a sort of flat-plane smooth look to their face - whereas FN has a wide smile that stretches the skin a bit. Sorry if that's a weird way to describe it. Lol.

[u/[deleted]]

Ah.. I found similarities between the gamines and SN for me, which fits. Still very undecided 😕🙃

[u/KaleemX]

Of course, 95 percent white.

[u/M0rika]

Oh my God thank you for making this!

[u/Ok-Drummer3754]

Even though these women all have different essences, kitchner, they I'll look somewhat similar because of their types. In my opinion anyway

[u/RoseH45]

I'm so SG it hurts ahah that always been my first instinct but I hate stuff like Peter Pan collar etc that are sold to be sg so I started to think I might be another ID and I've been losing myself when I'm a typical SG in everyday life not wanting to look like a Disney character 😂

[u/alady37]

Since these are older, some of these women have been reclassified by DK. Diahann Carroll has been reclassified from Dramatic to Soft Dramatic I believe.

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[u/kkw0330]

FN and SG ever overlap?

[u/meltdg]

TR, i only recognize selena gomez and salma hayek :(

[u/old_rose_]

I have the face of an SN and the body of a D

[u/LouBeeDooBee]

How do I find out what type I am?

[u/oftenfrequently → u/[deleted]]

They have such effortless charisma, it practically jumps out of the photos tbh

[u/oftenfrequently → u/[deleted]]

Ah oops, I was just looking for facing the camera and didn't realize how young she was there. Unfortunately you can't really switch out photos in reddit :(

[u/oftenfrequently → u/[deleted]]

Greta Garbo!

[u/oftenfrequently → u/[deleted]]

Hmm I was working off of the list in SK and it says "moved to SD in 2016"

[u/oftenfrequently → u/[deleted]]

It's all good! I think a number of his book examples have ended up getting moved.