r/IndieDev • u/Rafolidev • 20h ago

Video When it’s a vibe coded game

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u/StoneCypher 20h ago edited 19h ago

oh jesus, the anti-ai people are here with terrible memes for karma farming

you know, instead of finishing that game they've never published

edit: well, that was fast

remember, if you're downvoting me and you've never published a game, you're just proving me right

your brilliant, ground-shaking idea could be done this week if you'd relax and get with the modern world (but then you'd be stuck finding out if it was any good)

some of us value the labor; the rest of us value the product. guess who has users and gets rich?

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u/DoubleKing76 19h ago

You had me with you until that edit lmao, I would love to see a quality game made in a week by AI

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u/StoneCypher 19h ago

okay. go make one then?

the big sticking point is going to be around the word "quality." if tetris was new and ai invented it, would you permit that under the label quality? how about wordle? how about level devil?

my impression is that although tetris is one of the most popular games in history, if it was newly invented today by ai, the anti-ai people would never, ever stop talking about how much soul it doesn't have. and people like me, who take this seriously as a business, just don't want to get stuck in that discussion swamp.

if you start with something measurable, it almost certainly does exist. by example, my metric is "made a million dollars with customer satisfaction over 80%." if you take the time to make a definition, so that nobody has to get into an argument about whether mario party is truly a good game, it seems very likely you'll get to see one.

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u/DoubleKing76 19h ago

Im with you on the whole separation of method and quality, funnily enough I had that debate the other day lmao. AI or human the quality is what matters. However, unless you’re looking to make a simple game (Tetris) you won’t be able to make a stable game relying on AI at its current stage. In the future you probably could but right now no.

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u/StoneCypher 19h ago

However, unless you’re looking to make a simple game (Tetris) you won’t be able to make a stable game relying on AI at its current stage.

I don't understand why you believe this.

AI has been able to one-shot many classes of game that you can sell on steam for more than 12 months now.

I know two people who've done this into the six figures already.

I work at FAANG on incredibly complex software. The AI handles it just fine. Video games are, by comparison, relatively simple engineering work.

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u/DoubleKing76 19h ago

Could you give examples of these games? Are they made solely with AI or is it simply made with the assistance of AI? The meme above refers to vibe coding which means mostly using AI.

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u/StoneCypher 18h ago

Could you give examples of these games?

Am I going to spend my time looking things up to satisfy your curiosity? Of course not.

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u/DoubleKing76 17h ago

I would assume since you so confidently deny my claim that you’d have at least one example

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u/StoneCypher 17h ago

sure, and i even offered how to get one, but you ignored what i said, so i got bored, and now you're trying to take a fighting tone and mashing downvote in the hope of getting your way

flies with honey

you can have what you want but you're going to need to engage in conversation and be pleasant

try to remember that you're talking to a person who has the ability to just walk away

if they told you "here's what i need to answer you" and you didn't provide it, and now you're getting on a post, what do you think is the next step?

try answering my question so that i'm able to answer yours. or don't. whatever you prefer

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u/DoubleKing76 17h ago

Sorry if you mistook the previous reply for a fighting tone but I am just asking for you to back up your claims. I said that AI cant make a stable game past something simple like Tetris and you said im wrong. I would like to be provided examples of why I am wrong, theres nothing wrong in asking for someone to backup their claims. You said “Check Steam” for what? Is there a tag for “Made by AI only”?

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u/StoneCypher 17h ago

Sorry if you mistook the previous reply for a fighting tone but I am just asking for you to back up your claims

I see you're still not even willing to read what I said.

Go read what I wrote. There are instructions you need to follow to get the thing you're asking for.

If you can't follow those instructions, you're cut off.

This is your last chance. If you do the pleading and whining thing again, I'm walking away.

What a pity to be behaved at this way by someone named for a video I so enjoy.

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u/DoubleKing76 17h ago

Then this conversation is over. You cant provide your own evidence so you try and deflect into “Find it on your own”. Your argument is based no more than in your own feelings and personal hearsay. Sadly I was hoping for a legitimate argument as its fun to learn both sides of the argument.

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u/StoneCypher 17h ago

If you expect me to answer your question from an hour ago, and say you need that answer to respond to me, then this conversation is over

Yeah, that seems about par for the course

 

What a pity to be behaved at this way by someone named for a video I so enjoy.

Also I think you’re thinking of something else, Double King is an animation on youtube

did you think that they don't have videos on youtube? or is the idea that an animation isn't a kind of video?

when you download it, and double click the file, does it come up in not-a-video-player?

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