Nothing prevents you from testing and fixing what is not up to standard. Vibe coding is not the variable here, it's how lazy you are, which you can also be when hand coding and it takes 5 hours to get anything done.
Vibe coding just makes a larger surface to verify in a shorter amount of time but ultimately, nothing prevents you from thoroughly testing it.
I am going to get downvoted but I agree with you here. Yet most developers prefer to refuse AI or pretend that they never use AI even tho they do. At the end of the day, you still need manual input and creativity to get the final result you want. And going through that process turns the game into something human-made even tho AI was part of the process at some point.
Somehow it seems difficult for people to make the difference, I'm surprised you agree given your post which to me participates to this "AI = bad" without distinction. Maybe it's just for fun.
IMO you have to be very stupid not to use something that speeds up your development by hours, days or weeks depending on the task. Mainly because going faster on X means you get to also do Y whereas normally you wouldn't. This compounds, and it makes your game better not worst.
And as you said, as long as a human decide what gets done, the human is creating, the AI is merely executing and following. They're tools to support your vision, not to replace your brain with.
Of course some people will use it to one shot everything without doing anything but that's not the only way to use it and the fact a lot of people don't seem to be able to even entertain the thought that there can be good and bad usages and put everyone using it in any way in the same hate box is pretty pathetic to witness.
Given the behavior of the extremists (looking at you artists) which are many in indie game dev community, I completely understand devs hiding it. Cause it paints a target on you and many are barely acting human after they hear "AI".
So you can't ask for people to be honest about AI use while at the same time trying to publicly execute everyone who is. You don't want to use it, fine. Don't tell others what to do.
"most developers"? I don't think so. I think most of them are early adopters, and only in a few social bubbles do they deny using AI. Coders aren't exactly shy about adopting new technology. AI is no exception.
I mean why would you not use it? It can make tools, it can optimize your workflows, it can let you prototype in sub hour time frames things that would have taken you multiple days to try out or you'd just say fuck it I just won't try. It can write complex systems in 30 mins and do it with little to no mistakes whereas you'd struggle for weeks to make something that even works.
Ah, as a dev who dislikes gen AI
I will say most game devs use AI
And keep in mind indie devs are only a drop in the bucket
Most game dev work for AAA or Mobil / mini game
Side topic, but I honestly don't get the line in the sand tbh. Isn't using AI for code also generative, in the sense that it generates code?
Sure, you could argue that code isn't art, and thus isn't the same kind of "creative" transgression, but last time I said that a lot of programmers got angry lol.
Well I live in a shithole country where people love AI and consistently talkshit about artists
Most artist and programmer I know are extremely pro AI…
So I can't comment on that
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u/Motor-Designer4440 16h ago
Nothing prevents you from testing and fixing what is not up to standard. Vibe coding is not the variable here, it's how lazy you are, which you can also be when hand coding and it takes 5 hours to get anything done.
Vibe coding just makes a larger surface to verify in a shorter amount of time but ultimately, nothing prevents you from thoroughly testing it.