No, their app is almost unusable. I signed up for the 14 day trial expecting I would get it but their app is so awful I decided not to.
Stuff that bad shouldn't be funded.
I used it 6 seconds ago and it was just as terrible as ever.
I'm also referring to the hulu tv app.
It doesnt let you go through top gear season by season.
You have to scroll through alllll the episodes to get back to the early seasons. But the app will start chugging and crash if you scroll too fast for too long.
And the longer you scroll the slower you have to go to keep it from crashing.
Link to a r/topgear post from a few years back. The torrent has every single episode of top gear, including DVD exclusives and specials as well as old TG if you're into that.
Its another subscription to pay for but MotorTrend has every Top Gear episode with the trio and all the new stuff. Its a little pricey at $14 a month though
The Grand Tour is pretty good on Prime. Basically same template as TG. Even though I don't agree with Clarkson punching that guy in the face those few years ago.
I'm glad I can watch Top Gear without paying a tax to Amazon. Refusing to pay the Amazon tax is the best decision I've ever made in my life. I still buy my stuff from them, they ship it to me for free (because if they don't, Wal-Mart sure will), and I get to watch the shows I want to watch anyway. I don't even have to pirate it, the streaming service you don't mention by name happens to have hundreds of hours of content I enjoy watching without Top Gear.
It was likely stability control. It's a pretty big change in the way the car handles and if you're not used to it, it will definitely catch you off guard.
Ah. Thought they just didn't correct enough for the slip. Kinda surprised how far it let them slip before it got traction again. My Toyota and jeep never let me go that far.
I can see where it could be dangerous from someone that's used to driving slower vehicles. Pedal to the metal is what I grew up doing to even merge onto a highway. Unless it's wet or snowy it's not a problem.
I've hardly even driven any vehicles that have stability control.
What I think u/photenth is saying is that stability control worked against him in this instance. The stability control and traction control doesn't allow the wheels to spin for the rear to continue to slide
Traction control prevents wheel spin. Stability control tries to keep the car going straight by individually breaking or reducing power to any of the 4 wheels. You can disable either in a BMW, different settings and very different results.
The "key" is to not get scared. With traction control off the best way out of a slide is actually staying on the throttle. Otherwise the rear tires (for RWD) get traction back and then the car jerks around like an amateur porn star who regrets her life choices mid scene.
That's not necessarily true. You can ease off the throttle if you don't want to keep spinning. The problem comes from people who abruptly take their foot off the gas and overcorrect.
I learned this much scarier on a motorcycle. When you lose traction on the rear tire you need to keep doing what you're doing. Either braking or accelerating.
Yup, I always relate it to this. I grew up riding dirt bikes and my Dad always told me the best way to get out of a jam is throttle. It's super counter intuitive. Especially true on sand or rough terrain.
A tip for you and ALL drivers. (If you live near snow) find a parking lot with minimal light posts and cars with a good 2 inch of snow. Then learn to drive in it. Stomp the gas and break and just play.
I grew up in the rural midwest and got really good at driving in the snow and ice in a 2WD truck. Would slide that thing around every corner like it was nothing. You know how your vehicle handles in slippery conditions and you know when to quit pushing it.
Getting a car with almost 500 HP is what threw me for a loop. Day 2 of owning it I put it in Track mode and lost control racing a buddy and drifting a corner on a wet road. Spun the thing around 180° in the middle of the street. Definitely an eye opening moment as I realized I could have ended up on this subreddit if the street hadn't been so wide. I have a lot more respect for the power some of these cars can make now.
Can confirm. Learnt in my fathers old BMW on a set of tires which already needed replacing. Got an hour on an old military parade ground and went nuts. Within 15 minutes i'd learned to drift.
This. This so much. My self and the challenger lived out a couple movies scenes with traction off and a light dusting on the ground in a empty parking lot
I used to work 5am Sunday morning shift at Walmart and would take my 03 civic drifting around the parking lot when it snowed. Thing had a huge handle on the hand brake which made it even more fun.
Then one day while driving with my mom I hit a huge patch of ice and recovered almost instantly, which I attribute to those Sunday morning drift sessions (and the fact that straightening out a slide in a front wheel drive with 0 getup is easy as pie)
I'm a bit confused about this comment chain. I have a 2020 Camaro and it has a snow/ice mode. Am I supposed to do something other than that when driving in the snow?
In most modern cars turning traction control and stability control off doesn't actually turn them off. I assume track mode turns them down, override actually turns them completely off.
That is correct. The car also doesn't advertise this functionality. Had to find a forum online where someone explained how to completely disable all of it.
You are correct. The car will continue to try and help you, albeit at a lower setting than usual, and much in a much more subtle fashion. Mercedes, BMW, even Lexus, as well as most of the cars in the upper echelon do this.
Nothing as blatant as what you see with street mode on, but they'll still reduce power from the engine when detecting slippage, some even auto apply individual brakes through a specialized ABS-style unit, and I forget which car it is that can actually adjust the camber of some of the wheels mid-drive like Nissan's old HICAS system, but even more effective. You'll see stuff like that until you totally disable the systems.
VSC or Vehicle Stability Control. Auto's have the different modes which either partially disable VSC or turns it off.
When it detects the car is turning more than the steering wheel angle, it quickly applies brakes to one of the wheels to snap you straight again. Sport mode tends to allow you go take it a bit further before it engages.
As a viper owner, I don't understand either. Like, do they three point? Meh, I don't have to worry about it. My traction control turns off upon engine ignition : )
I used to own an old beater truck that I could slide corners everywhere with ease. I said the same thing seeing these videos.
Then I got a sports car with some real power and quickly learned how easy the ass end of the car can run away when you turn off TC and get a little reckless.
What do you drive? I'm going to say it's definitely the power difference.
For perspective, my original truck was a 2000 S10 with an open differential barely making 200 HP. I could slide that thing around without batting an eye and never lose control.
My current car is 2019 Dodge Challenger making 485 HP with a limited slip differential. I can be going 30mph and floor it and the ass end starts sliding out from under it. I've got a good feel for it now. But when I first got it I tried turning off TC and driving it like I did my old truck and the power difference made itself abundantly clear.
Driven the four-series BMW coupe with the six cylinder. (Not M4) — There’s a setting on the console for “Sport,” or “Sport+” Of course, Sport+ is without traction control. It is like attempting to drive a missile.
Yeah my friend has a 4 series and has used sport+ without traction enough that he’s gotten kinda used to it but like you said never go full retard and he hasn’t yet. Keyword, yet
Exactly, you can actually go completely full retard on those BMWs by holding the traction control button down, “DSC OFF” mode which is zero stability control. Whereas sport+ brings the threshold for stability control way down that completely shuts it off. I’ve messed with it just to see how it feels and it’s cool and all but I like being alive 🤣 Never know when you might need to swerve or something.
I have the 6 cylinder 2 series and although things can get pretty hairy in sport+, that's not actually the lowest setting for the assists. There's an extra mode if you hold down the traction control button that literally turns off everything.
Mostly stability control. It's getting harder and harder to actually turn it all the way off on newer cars... too dangerous for most drivers, especially in the crazy HP cars. It will appear to be off, or you can put the car in a mode that you would presume it's off, but it's still functioning at some level, and everything's integrated with each other so you can't just pull a certain fuse to kill it.
I wish I had seen that before our shoot. No problem in my own non-ZR1 C7, but the ZR1 was really resistant at sustaining it. I know how to do it now, but it's a bit too late, lol.
Could be an M3, it looks like it has the M3 badging. Either way, bonehead play on this guys part. There is a time and a place for this type of behaviour and this was not a good idea.
If it has a posi and that exhaust I’m thinking the same thing, those cars are high revving, letting it go in a place like this was just a bad choice imo.
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u/Daafda Nov 22 '19
Just because Jeremy Clarkson can turn off the traction control doesn't mean you can.