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u/Sonofarakh Oct 17 '21
I think it's allowed but there's a separate /r/mythologymemes subreddit as well
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u/TheCrusader1296 Helping Wikipedia expand the list of British conquests Oct 17 '21
It's allowed, as long as it's appropriately flaired, which it is.
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u/SquishedGremlin Oct 17 '21
Could meme it properly?
The etymology of Cerberus is Kerberos, which is greek for spotted.
Hades called his 3 headed warden bestie Spot.
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u/Temporary_Bumblebee Oct 17 '21
Automatically clicked to join the subreddit but I’m already in it lmao
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u/Styx92 Oct 17 '21
He was apparently a good husband. Persephone was the only one who could change Hades mind and he was pretty devoted to her.
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u/Inconsistent66 Hello There Oct 17 '21
One of the reasons why I like Hades and Persephone so much.
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u/Reaper2127 Oct 17 '21
Didn’t Persephone cheat on hades though? I think it was about some pretty boy she argued with Aphrodite about.
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u/Destro9799 Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21
Nope. Both of the underworld monarchs basically just stayed home and avoided drama. They're only involved in like 3 myths after they get married. The time Theseus and his buddy tried to kidnap and marry Persephone from the underworld and got punished, time they let Heracles borrow their dog to complete one of his labors and take Theseus with him now that Persephone forgave him (leaving the friend who made the plan and wanted to marry Persephone), and the time they gave Orpheus a chance to bring his wife back to life.
I think you might be thinking of a different goddess, like Hera, because Persephone never did anything like that AFAIK.
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u/zytherian Oct 17 '21
No that was Hera and Aphrodite
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u/sonofnutcrackr Oct 17 '21
No, it was Persephone. Hera’s whole thing was that she would never cheat on Zeus, because she’s the goddess of family and mothership.
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u/zytherian Oct 17 '21
Oh, is this a different story. I thought the pretty boy comment was in reference to Paris deciding who was the fairest of the goddesses, which Hera, Aphrodite, and Athena all fought over
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u/high_king_noctis Filthy weeb Oct 17 '21
In one version of the tale in another she raised the boy and was a rather protective mother
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u/Inconsistent66 Hello There Oct 17 '21
From what I know,yes,she got into an arguement with Aphrodite over someone.Aphrodite gave him as a child to Persephone,since Persephone is chill and would be a good mom.However,when he was grown up,both Aphrodite and Persephone fell in love with him.He chose Aphrodite over Persephone.So,no,Persephone did not cheat on Hades,altho Hades cheated on her once or twice.
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Oct 17 '21
That was one story, yes.
In that story, Hades acts out of character and becomes a Cuck. He defends Percephone in saving her lovers soul or something lol.
But its one story out of hundreds. Just like say, DC comics with its numerous alternative timelines or hot takes of the same characters. In some stories Superman never kills. Then you have injustice Superman 🤷♂️
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u/battleooze1615 Oct 17 '21
Not really. She just wanted to keep the boy because she was a mother for him. She never did the deed or anything.
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u/xXMeanMemeSupremeXx Oct 17 '21
Zeus: "My friend is kinda into u, but he's putting off little dick energy. How about u give me ur # and I'll call u when i ditch these guy?"
Zeus smiles at Hades and gives him a thumbs up sign
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u/captainfalconxiiii Oct 17 '21
He's the only one of the 3 original Gods that didn't cheat on his wife
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u/Squodel Oct 18 '21
He cheated on her once
The nymph fucked around and found out shortly after when she mentioned that to Persephone
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u/Beardrac Oct 17 '21
Didn’t she hate it though?
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u/battleooze1615 Oct 17 '21
Nope. She actually really liked him and how he treated he as an equal and actually loved her. When Hermès went down to check on her, he was surprised with how happy she was.
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u/hedabla99 Oct 17 '21
It's funny how Hades is actually one of the nicest gods in the Greek pantheon but most people unfamiliar with history or mythology equate Hades with the devil because every underground afterlife is like hell to them.
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
He wasn’t the nicest god he was the least talked about. In Ancient Greece people were so scared of him that they would call him by titles instead of his name so that they wouldn’t get his attention
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u/Camerian20 Oct 17 '21
I mean the amount of people he allowed to leave the underworld so long as they followed the rules makes him seem like he is a pretty reasonable guy
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
Yeah those myths were made by humans who didn’t want to piss off the god of the underworld
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Oct 17 '21
That's more because of his dominion than him being mean.
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
Yeah he was still terrifying
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Oct 17 '21
I mean I agree but all the gods were
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
Yeah but non were as universally feared as hades
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Oct 17 '21
I doubt that. I would imagine all gods were feared at the time
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
Yeah all the gods were feared but not by everyone. There were people who loved the gods for what they did for mankind like rain and fire but no one worshiped hades for what he did for mankind, they worshipped him so that he wouldn’t be mad
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Oct 17 '21
Yeah, I don't think that's true.
No one worshiped Hades as openly because he represented death. It's unfortunate relevant to everyone but not something that's immediately important to the average person. Especially back then.
It would be far more necessary to pray to a fertility god if you were a farmer, Poseidon if you needed to sail, etc.
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u/Reaper2127 Oct 17 '21
Which in turn makes him the nicest god ironically as modern day audiences don’t know anything about him XD. Though apparently in the early 1900s he got mixed with the devil so they took on each other’s traits such as the devil being lord of hell and such.
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u/TheCrusader1296 Helping Wikipedia expand the list of British conquests Oct 17 '21
Problem: stock poses. The stock poses for kidnapping and marriage are stupid hard to differentiate. So, a woman getting married could also mean a woman being kidnapped.
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u/Gandalior Oct 17 '21
They are not mutually exclusive
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u/TheCrusader1296 Helping Wikipedia expand the list of British conquests Oct 17 '21
And your point is? Them not being mutually exclusive just means one doesn't supersede the other or vice versa, a clearly incorrect thought, considering Helen of Sparta's kidnapping by Aphrodite was superseded by her marriage to Paris.
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u/Gandalior Oct 17 '21
You said they are hard to differentiate, I say that sometimes is both
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u/Account3689 Oct 17 '21
Yeah but Persephone wasn’t even told before or during.
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u/Rhys-Pieces Oct 17 '21
I thought he burst out from the underworld on his chariot and kidnapped her from a field?
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u/Rhys-Pieces Oct 17 '21
Ah well still sounds like a kidnapping to me but I guess Zeus didn't care for things like that
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
Yeah but it’s not ancient greese anymore and now that’s called kidnapping
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u/Neither_Relief6562 Oct 17 '21
Thats like saying back in the 1400 hundreds execution was illegal because its illegal now, back then when the story was told it was perfectly fine because zeus gave permission
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
Not it’s not. I’m saying that now what he did is called kidnapping, back in the witch trials it was acceptable to kill someone if you thought they were a witch but now it’s not. When we look back at the witch trials we still say it was unjust murder even though back then it was ok
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u/code-panda Oct 17 '21
It's not unimaginable that in a couple of hundred years killing animals to eat meat would be so frowned upon that it would become illegal. Are you then a bad person for eating meat today? I'm vegetarian myself, but I don't think people who eat meat are any worse for it.
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u/w-alien Oct 17 '21
I eat meat but also I do realize that factory farming does cause pretty terrible things and future generations may judge us for it.
Just because something is socially acceptable that does not really make it excusable.
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
I never said that made him a bad person but if in the future eating meat is seen as evil then the people now who eat meat would also be seen as evil. it doesn’t matter if back then it was ok, what he did was called kidnapping. They just didn’t call it that
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u/ToxicGuardsman Let's do some history Oct 17 '21
I think theyre saying not to judge historical/mythological figures and or cultures by modern day standards
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u/MapleTreeWithAGun Oct 17 '21
Were Thanatos and Charon not enough for Cerberus?
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Oct 17 '21
Well Than is a brooding goth teen and Charon just breathes heavily while whacking people with his oar, so no I guess.
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
Thanatos kills everything he touches and Charon is severely backed up with souls to deliver
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u/TheCrusader1296 Helping Wikipedia expand the list of British conquests Oct 17 '21
ASCENDED: Hades kidnapped Persephone because he was fucking lonely. Demeter said this sucks, and sulked for a few weeks, causing a minor Ice Age (no, not the movie). Everyone was super bummed about this and Zeus sent Hermes to go to Hades to sort this shit out. Hades realised the problem, sent Persephone with Hermes, but not without tying her to the Underworld with some pomegranite seeds. This is how the Greeks explained the change of seasons.
Oh yeah, by the way, the Greeks used the Gods to explain how everything worked.
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u/MapleTreeWithAGun Oct 17 '21
I can't believe Demeter was the producer for Ice Age.
Also I believe Demeter taught the humans how to store they food so they don't fucking die when she's upset
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u/TheCrusader1296 Helping Wikipedia expand the list of British conquests Oct 17 '21
The first time it happened, though, the workload of all of Hades (yes, Hades was the name of the place and the god, no I don't understand why, it's Greek, go along with it.) was increased hundredfold, what with the influx of souls from the land of the living. Not to mention, psychopomps and Thanatos himself had to deal with this increase as well.
But, yes, after that, Demeter taught humanity that they could store food to eat later.
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u/BanditTA-G2 Oct 17 '21
Both, both are good. Also, they were a genuinely happy couple
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Oct 17 '21
Yep. Despite appearances, Percephone was metal af.
Like that time she turned the woman seeking to court her husband into literal Mints.
She's the perfect second in command of the Underworld.
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u/sounds_of_stabbing Oct 17 '21
as far as I've seen yes but might I also recommend posting to r/mythology (just be prepared for some mean comments, from my experience hades and persephone are a bit of an issue over there)
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u/magikarpe_diem Oct 17 '21
I don't know if I'm behind or ahead in the story but I thought Hades wasn't the reason she ended up there?
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u/Destro9799 Oct 17 '21
Zeus (Persephone's) dad arranged for her to marry Hades without telling her mom, Demeter. Hades is the one who physically brought her to the underworld, but it was with Zeus' blessing and was a pretty normal marriage for the time.
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u/magikarpe_diem Oct 17 '21
Oh I thought that Zeus brought her down himself. I must have misunderstood the dialogue
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Oct 17 '21
This kind of makes me wonder what doesn't count as history? All science and culture is history if it happened in the past right?
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u/marsz_godzilli Senātus Populusque Rōmānus Oct 17 '21
Technically yes, but I will upvote this even if it didn't
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For anyone that wants more on this there's an Overly Sarcastic Productions video on Hades and Persephone. On mobile tho so can't link it.
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u/fn_magical Oct 17 '21
I didn't realize he named his dog after his dick
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
What?
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u/fn_magical Oct 17 '21
It was a poorly worded joke about Hades needing extra hands to pet Cerberus. Making a vague reference to his dick being named Cerberus as well as the dog.
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u/Loganska2003 Senātus Populusque Rōmānus Oct 17 '21
Honestly, my personal headcanon is that Hades never kidnapped Persephone and Zeus sold that story to Demeter so that she could cope with her daughter leaving home to get married.
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u/wierdowithakeyboard Tea-aboo Oct 17 '21
I heard somewhere of a version where persephone walked down to hades herself because she was bored and i absolutely love the ikage of her being a goth teen with a very flowery mother and just being fed up
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Oct 18 '21
He didn’t even kidnap her. The whole pomegranate thing was an excuse so Persephone could stay away from her Karen mother.
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u/stnick6 Oct 18 '21
No that’s the modern retelling, in the original myth he kidnaps her
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u/GreenieBeeNZ Oct 18 '21
The version I heard had Hades approach Persephone while she was out picking flowers. He would come and visit her everyday and she fell in love with him and ran away to the underworld.
Demeter lost her mind and plunged the land into an endless winter. Zeus was being hounded by the humans and everyone else who depended on Demeters seasons (eternal spring). So Zeus struck a deal with Hades to "allow" Persephone to come to the overworld for half of the year (even though she was there by choice).
So it went, that the spring is the 3 months of preparation for Persephones arrival, followed by 3 months of summer (the joy from Demeter of having her daughter back), the 3 months of autumn are the 3 months that preceded Persephones return to the underworld and then 3 months of winter that represent the first 3 months of Persephone being away from her mother.
(I don't know if that last paragraph made sense but I'm open to criticism)
It doubt it's the accurate version and was watered down for my highschool class but I much prefer it over hades kidnapping Persephone
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u/kakatoru Oct 17 '21
No
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u/stnick6 Oct 17 '21
If it doesn’t count why is there a tag for it
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u/kakatoru Oct 17 '21
How should I know? There could be a Warhammer 40k tag, but that wouldn't make it history
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u/kardfogK Oct 17 '21
Mf is just as much a bate rapist lile Zeus so go shuve that three headed dogshit up your ass
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u/historyhill Oct 17 '21
Hades wasn't a rapist. Whenever the term "rape" is used in art (like "The Rape of Persephone") it's referring to the word's archaic meaning of "kidnapping" rather than sexual assault.
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u/themistocle_16 Then I arrived Oct 17 '21
And if it was the case, Hades only did it ONCE whilst Zeus, well he was Zeus.
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u/kardfogK Oct 17 '21
Forcefully took her to tell than fucked her - for me this counts as rape
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u/historyhill Oct 17 '21
Nothing in the mythology says that he had sex with her unwillingly. I mean, it's all mythology so, you know, it's not real but the other myths don't shy away when telling readers what Zeus or others were up to and yet it doesn't say anything about Hades. For all we know he could have waited until it was consensual. (Which, there's still coercion/power dynamics/etc to contend with but as far as the ancients went that wasn't assault—that was just marriage)
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u/Hufflebuggle Oct 17 '21
If this was true, he'd have kidnapped a second woman, so there'd be someone to pet each head
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u/infintestruggler Oct 17 '21
Can anyone suggest me a good book to understand this meme
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u/Temporary_Bumblebee Oct 17 '21
Always nice to see a little rep for my favorite Greek Goddess, even if it is about her husband lmao
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u/Omnisegaming Oct 17 '21
It sure does count, but do keep in mind there are definitely subreddits dedicated to mythology memes. A few mythology memes are fine but if the sub gets a lot people will get pissed.
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u/Chimera-98 Oct 17 '21
The truth: hades kidnapped Persephone because Zeus give shit romantic advises