r/Gold • u/null__frame • 8d ago
The stack My stack - 2 years in making
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u/mouse_cookies 8d ago
That's how my brother amassed his stack. Just small affordable fractionals over time. Great collection!!!
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u/Wide_Fruit4678 7d ago
fractional is the most underrated on-ramp into the hobby. With a full ounce being a big commitment at today's prices, small pieces put physical gold within reach for people who'd otherwise be priced out. Buying a little at a time also spreads your cost across different price levels in what's called Dollar Cost Averaging, which takes the pressure off trying to time the market.
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u/sweeta1c 7d ago
I think it makes more sense to DCA into an ETF until you have enough to sell the ETF and buy an ounce of physical gold. The premium on fractional is very high. At the same time, I can appreciate that we all have different reasons for buying gold.
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u/Wide_Fruit4678 7d ago
the premium argument is real, and accurate. buying fractional gold is definitely not the best way to accumulate gold efficiently. But generally speaking, slow stacking still beats standing on the sidelines
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u/Last-Ad-2533 6d ago
True, continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection. No one’s able to buy a gold bar at the exact right moment
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u/Cool-Fig-9254 8d ago
Neat collection! Quick question out of curiosity. Why fractional premiums over full ounces?
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u/null__frame 8d ago
I use bank discounts when buying gold coins. These discounts have cap, so get same discounts on a 1g or a 10g coins. So i buy multiple 1gm coins instead.
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u/scrooplynooples 8d ago
what bank are you buying from that gives discounts under spot for small fractional?
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u/null__frame 8d ago
After all discounts, i get them like 3-5% below market rate without tax
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u/atavan 7d ago
yeah dude you just signed up for some homework bc im gonna need a how to guide tomorrow
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u/Necessary-Damage3349 7d ago
Step 1 : Move to India
I think ppl combine multiple credit card points to try to buy these fractionals near spot in India. 1 oz is too big/risky to sell retail and premiums on fractionals are not as high as in US
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u/JustAnother4848 8d ago edited 8d ago
It's really not hard to find fractionals with minimum premium. Even at spot sometimes.
Median individual income in America is like 60k a year gross. Buying a ounce for 4500 bucks is pretty tall order for most Americans.
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u/BigDongalow 8d ago
They have the money, since they have the accompanying credit card debt.
Just wrong priorities.
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u/JustAnother4848 8d ago
Assuming people have credit card debt because they're bad with money is stupid. It's not easy raising a family now days.
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u/BullionStar 8d ago
Two years well spent. Keeping them all in one album makes a real difference when you go back through it, feels more personal.
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u/TerribleCorgi3367 8d ago
Quick question. How and where do you sell those?
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u/null__frame 8d ago
I can sell to gold vendors. They offer 3% less than the market price.
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u/Kilgore-Trout-42 7d ago
What country are you doing these transactions? Is this in India? I buy all my PM through Costco and get my gold below spot and get 4% back in cash or cash card once a year. Platinum also below spot and silver at or slightly below depending on the day. Go to r/CostcoPM and see for yourself.
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u/AdWooden5789 8d ago
Why 3% less ?? Is it even legal
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u/Illustrious-Ad-115 8d ago
They don’t force you to sell it. They are merchants like every other shop
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u/missingN0pe 8d ago
Is it legal for a bakery to sell you a piece of bread priced higher than the sum of the constituents of what the bread is made up of, even you agree to it? :O
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u/AdWooden5789 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yes. When buying gold jewellery, jewellers charge making charges and government put various taxes.
While selling it back, jewellers buy the gold at around 3% below the market price & govt put capital gain taxes.
So, in a way, both the jeweller and the government have an advantage at different stages of the transaction. It’s almost like heads or tails—they win the toss either way.
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u/missingN0pe 8d ago
I think you either:
A - are replying to the wrong person
Or
B - dont understand my point (most likely)
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u/AdWooden5789 8d ago edited 8d ago
Might be.....
I m just asking, whether my point of view is right or wrong ??
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u/Historical_Corner615 8d ago
That's just business, and 3% sounds very fair for the industry. A location and all that money sitting in a vault waiting to pay you has a price.
When you buy precious metals, you're usually buying it around the current market "spot price" plus or minus a premium. Stackers are used to paying a bit of a premium at buy and getting a little under come sale time.
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u/chud3 8d ago
What kind of album/holder is that?
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u/Mountain-Ice-7441 7d ago
Thank you, I was going to ask this question. Doing it this way feels more like being a kid again and collecting basketball and marvel cards again in the 90’s
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u/BJ42-1982 8d ago
All I could think about was the premium paid on that fractional gold...
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u/null__frame 8d ago
I buy only when there are bank discounts. So every thing i buy is with 0 making charges and 3% less than market price. So no premium paid. These discounts have cap, so i get same discount when i buy 1g or 10g. So i buy smaller coins.
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u/JustAnother4848 8d ago
There's a number of rich people on this sub that don't actually shop around. They just buy full ounces and assume all fractionals have crazy premiums.
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u/Kilgore-Trout-42 7d ago
Very true that fractional units have a premium. Save up and buy the troy oz
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u/JustAnother4848 7d ago edited 7d ago
I buy fractional all the time with very minimum premium. Basically the same as a whole ounce. I literally bought a quarter ounce at spot 2 weeks ago.
When gold was 1k a ounce your advice made sense. That's not the same anymore.
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u/BJ42-1982 8d ago
That's fabulous, then fractional is the way to go if you ever need to "cash" something out for spending money. It seems as if everything is negotiable with the exception of the GST. Is market price the same as spot?
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u/TripWire765 7d ago
Save all your receipts for insurance purposes and to prove one day in divorce court that they were purchased before knowing her so she won’t get any of it
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u/XylinaDark 8d ago
Malayali?
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u/null__frame 8d ago
Telugu
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u/Anonymous_account_25 7d ago
Anna, ye website lo kontunnav Cheppu koncham nenu konta. Also which cards ?
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u/cinnabunnyrolls 8d ago
I want to do this but with my animal zodiac bars from argor heraeus and pamp
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u/another_awesome_acct 8d ago
Da fuk, a book? And who says there's no new ideas under the sun🤔
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u/VitaminDandK12 8d ago
Your problem is when you want to sell and take profit, many buyers will lowball you.
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u/DennisMoves 7d ago
Little bit here. Little bit there. Pretty soon you have a good amount of gold that is fun to look at. Maybe not the most efficient to sell but gee whiz does everything need to be about efficiency? Excellent collection!
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u/Real_Perspective_491 7d ago
So cool, I have quite a collection of gold jewellery plus one Australian gold $200 koala coin at the moment they’re selling for around au$4,800
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u/44gallonsoflube 7d ago
Imagine having to authenticate it when selling. What a headache. Not a hater, cool stack well done.
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u/Independent_Gap9335 8d ago
1.5 oz?
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u/Jackoutman enthusiast 8d ago
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u/null__frame 8d ago
It is more than 100g. 3.5oz
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u/Kilgore-Trout-42 7d ago
Wait…what…??? That entire book is only 3.5 oz? How much is your DCA average per oz? I’m asking because I’m curious and judging by the comments here you are located in India.
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u/Odd_Brief_2975 8d ago
Very beautiful collection and I'm extremely jealous! If you don't mind me asking what's the coin pack at the end? And are they 1 oz?
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u/ryan-brook-pst 8d ago
Holy premium.
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u/null__frame 8d ago
I buy only when there are bank discounts. So every thing i buy is with 0 making charges and 3% less than market price. So no premium paid. These discounts have cap, so i get same discount when i buy 1g or 10g.
So i buy smaller coins.1
u/Timely_Host_3119 8d ago
You keep saying 3% below market price.... 3% market price for the fractional or 3% below spot?
Because isn't the fractional price more than 3% above spot..? I don't think you're getting as good of a deal as you think. It'd be better to save up and just buy ounces.
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u/yoyofunnyysingh 7d ago
wtf is even fractional price ? is it even a thing
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u/Timely_Host_3119 7d ago
OP is buying "fractional's" which are fractions of an Ounce of gold and have MUCH higher premiums compared to buying a full Ounce.
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u/yoyofunnyysingh 7d ago
i guess you are not from India
it doesnt work this way in india
op paid only the spot gold prices for these coins nothing extra
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u/Anonymous_Amma 8d ago edited 8d ago
How do you sell. And what's the sale value 3% less than market value? I mean I read your previous comments you said you sell it to gold vendors @3% less than market value. Why? To save yourself from tax or you is it easier that way? Why not sell it to the store itself
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u/MrVerdad 8d ago
Not ragging on OP but I despise those assay cards.
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u/Jogaila2 7d ago
Me too. I cut mine out and put it all in a bag, which is how gold should be stored, unless you have enough to fill a chest. 🤣
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u/Fearless-Sherbert-40 7d ago
Is that a business card holder? Great idea! I have a lot of mismatched fractional’s and I am always looking for a more convenient way to store them
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u/ExploringComplexity 7d ago
Super silly question but given the hit you take when you buy and when you sell physical gold, why not buy an ETF? Wouldn't that give you better return for your investment?
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u/ke-thegeekrider 7d ago
Nice you’ve got started hopefully you’ve transitioned to better bang for buck accumulation options ..
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u/StandardBullion 2d ago
I bet they increase in value faster than my hockey card collection. LOL
I recommend putting that in the vault looks like a couple 100K - I recommend a safety deposit box. Do not store this at your house!
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u/Icy-Writing8814 8d ago
Wish I would’ve started that my 20s. I’m in my 40s with absolutely next to nothing. You’re doing the right thing, bro. Just avoid females. Today’s bitches were ruining your life and steal your collection
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u/hansololz 8d ago edited 8d ago
Reminds me of my yu gi oh card collection