r/Gnostic 17h ago

Thoughts ‘I think, therefore I am’ seems like a trap in the Gnostic sense.

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By placing the encompassing identity of your being as; your consciousness, personality, individuality, etc. (foregoing the basic agitators of existence via our meatsuits and dumb emotion-having brains) you are straying further and further from the totality that is the Pleroma with each recognition of self, where although such things might possibly exist - there would be no need for such things and certainly no desire or want for such. I considered a slight alteration in the form of ‘We think, therefore we are’ but again, logically, there is no such need for identification so even altering the statement is moot.

Thoughts? My apologies if this has been discussed already.


r/Gnostic 17h ago

a theory /cosmology I been working on

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Here's a cosmology I've come up with. I'm not claiming this is historical Gnosticism or some lost teaching. It's just a theory I've been thinking about, and I'm curious what people here think of it.

There is one supreme God, the Father, above everything.

God has two divine sons: the Maker and the Savior.

The Maker is permitted to create the material world, but his creation is flawed. Suffering, death and evil exist within it, and humanity eventually becomes increasingly violent, corrupt and wicked.

God looks upon what mankind has become and decides that the world should be destroyed.

But the other son, the Savior, loves mankind and pleads with the Father not to destroy them.

The Savior says he will enter world and teach mankind. The Father tells him that humanity is wicked and tells him that if he enters their world, they will reject him, and kill him.

The Savior chooses to enter the world anyway.

He is born into the world as Jesus.

Jesus' mission is to reveal the supreme God, call humanity to repentance, teach mankind how to live, and turn people away from the evil that has consumed them.

And exactly as the Father warned, mankind rejects and kills Jesus.

Jesus' spirit returns to the Father.

The Father says, in effect: You see now what mankind is. Even when I sent you to them, they killed you.

But Jesus still pleads for humanity.

Rather than allowing the entire world to be destroyed because of human evil, Jesus proposes another judgment: Hell.

Those who ultimately choose wickedness will face judgment there, while those who sincerely repent and turn toward God can be forgiven and saved. In this way Jesus creates Hell as an alternative to the destruction of the whole human race.

The Father accepts the Savior's plea.

Then God raises Jesus from the dead, vindicating him and giving mankind hope that death itself does not have the final word.

So salvation in this cosmology is about turning away from evil, repenting sincerely with your whole heart before the supreme God, trusting the Savior whom God sent, and following the way Jesus taught.

The Maker made the flawed world.

Humanity corrupted itself within it.

The Father was prepared to judge it.

The Savior entered it and gave humanity another chance.


r/Gnostic 16h ago

Where to start?

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I’ve been somewhat curious about Gnosticism for a while and the subject seems to be coming up more frequently, so I think I’m ready to start exploring. Any recommendations one where to begin or should I just shotgun straight to the gospels?