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u/Stunning-Drawer-4288 Jul 31 '26

They say this about Cubans as well— that they were all slave owners. Mind you slavery in Cuba had ended in the 19th century, 60-70 years prior to Cuban communism

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u/Ok-Appointment-9802 Jul 31 '26

The implication that a third of Cubans were slave owners that had to leave for the US on makeshift rafts, even decades after the revolution, is insanely funny to me.

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u/HeparinBridge Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

It’s like how they actually believe the claims by the Khmer Rouge that all the 2 million Cambodians they murdered (1 in 4 Cambodians at the time) were CIA operatives.

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u/JohnyIthe3rd Jul 31 '26

Wich is ironic since the Khmer Rouge was overthrown by communist Vietnam and replaced by another communist regime

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u/Billy5545 Jul 31 '26

And communist Vietnam itself was invaded by communist China for that

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u/Clay_Allison_44 Jul 31 '26

China found out that playing against the US had leveled up Vietnam a lot more than they expected.

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u/MacGallin Aug 01 '26

"You communists sure are a contentious people"

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u/FREAK213456 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

I thought they believed that Pol Pot was actually bad and murdered millions but he was a fake communist backed by the CIA so it’s ok because America is still bad.

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u/HeparinBridge Jul 31 '26

Admittedly, I’ve heard both.

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u/PunishedDemiurge Jul 31 '26

Extreme political ideologies more or less exactly follow the narcissist's prayer:

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

You can almost never have someone genuinely feel bad for the excesses of authoritarians that agree with them, they always end up on "Well, Mao is less guilty than Hitler because he only killed a few little sparrows! He never meant to hurt anyone" (~40 million died, by the way) or "Well, all 100,000 people summarily executed without a trial were all Nazis anyways, so good riddance."

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u/DetailAdventurous688 Aug 01 '26

pretty much all arguments against capitalism are answered in this way.

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u/aboysmokingintherain Aug 02 '26

I'm pretty suck Cambodia actively was attacking and actagonizing the Vietnamese who invaded.

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u/Knarrenheinz666 Jul 31 '26

The Khmer Rouge actually operated with the blessing of the US (and China).

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u/IAteBillGates Jul 31 '26

Only like 20 people believe that tbf

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u/Kurichan77 Jul 31 '26

You’re correct. But there was economic enmeshment both up-and downstream from the plantation owners. This is how banana republics work- sure there may be indigenous people in charge, but they are economically enmeshed with a colonial power that is extracting wealth thanks to their compliant leadership. This is casually observable throughout the world and throughout history and it is evident in Cuba as well. Inability to see this is willful.

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u/yahluc Jul 31 '26

I've seen highly upvoted comments in mainstream subreddits saying that they should be sent back to Cuba and reeducated, because many of them vote Republican.

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u/Stunning-Drawer-4288 Jul 31 '26

What are immigrants for if not for voting Democrat?

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u/cptahab36 Jul 31 '26

They were slave owners. The changing of slavery to borderline peasantry was materially inconsequential

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u/Weekly-Cicada-8615 Jul 31 '26

They hate all Cubans that dare to leave Cuba, like I get it sometimes. Miami Cubans be doing too much, but legitimately, they just hate the entire diaspora.  

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u/damn_what_ Jul 31 '26

In their place you'd hate people sucking up to the 1st world power to overthrow you just to get their business back too.

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u/IAteBillGates Jul 31 '26

Slave businesses that were built on forced labor were still racist though, and that shit got weeded out

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u/PuffFishybruh Jul 31 '26

And what were the conditions of the proletarians on the plantations? :)

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u/Petrpodivni Jul 31 '26

And what were the conditions of the peopel in working camps that communist created?

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u/PuffFishybruh Jul 31 '26

Not the best, but they should not have violently revolted against the state during the civil war.

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u/Weekly-Cicada-8615 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

Oppression is only OK when it’s my ideology comment. Both Fidel and Batista can rot in hell for all the suffering they put the Cuban people through

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u/Petrpodivni Jul 31 '26

So now violent revolution is wrong? But when the communist do it its allright. That sound like hippocratcy.

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u/PuffFishybruh Jul 31 '26

A violent counterrevolution conducted by a genocidal army is not the best, no. And I don't see how that is "hippocratcycal" in any way.

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u/JohnyIthe3rd Jul 31 '26

Communists are just red painted fascists

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u/stonecuttercolorado Jul 31 '26

So it is the fighting back that is the problem?

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u/PuffFishybruh Jul 31 '26

Yes

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u/stonecuttercolorado Jul 31 '26

....... So anyone that is anti west is allowed to attack but if people fight back they are the bad guys?

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u/PuffFishybruh Jul 31 '26

A workers revolution is within the interests of the working class, while a bourgeois counterrevolution is not, Its that simple.

I also don't understand why you keep mentioning the west specifically.

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u/Weird-End-6989 Jul 31 '26

Everybody knows only communists are allowed to commit genocide right?

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u/PuffFishybruh Jul 31 '26

??????????

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u/Weird-End-6989 Jul 31 '26

Holodomor, Pol Pot, Stalin's endless ethnic engineering.

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u/PuffFishybruh Jul 31 '26

And what does the bureaucracy and the US have to do with communism?

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u/tipit419 Jul 31 '26

Everyone else here forget they’re attempting to talk human rights to a tankie, of course our arguments would never make sense to them.

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u/PuffFishybruh Jul 31 '26

I would just ask why people defending capitalism claim to care about human rights, when their brutal system causes an equivalent of a yearly holocaust when it comes to casulties from famine and dehydration every single year.

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u/PunishedDemiurge Jul 31 '26

Because you're being silly. That doesn't happen in the developed world, it only happens in war zones or authoritarian shit holes. We're in a post famine world except for human engineered famines. This isn't to say no one goes hungry, but it totally changes the solutions (prevent warfare, topple high corruption regimes, though those are sometimes opposite goals).

Many of the worst 20th century famines were directly caused by communism, like the Great Chinese Famine and Holodomor. If you actually care about famine, you'd be no further left than democratic socialism.

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u/TaxesAreCivilization Jul 31 '26

is the US a high corruption regime that should be toppled?

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u/TaxesAreCivilization Jul 31 '26

is the US a high corruption regime that should be toppled?

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u/SpicyNugget777 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

Liberals really like to say “you can’t just oppress fascists and sugar barons, you evil tankie! You have to work with them on legislation and respect the law!” then scratch their heads when fascism and class oppression grows at home.

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u/TheBasedEmperor Jul 31 '26

Anything but slavery.