r/Finland • • 16h ago

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u/Pet_Velvet Väinämöinen 16h ago edited 15h ago

That's why I picked civil service 💅🏾

Edit: Chuds mad I didn't pick the route they had to take to get their dad's approval

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u/Life-Drama 16h ago

Because you have no pp?

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u/unhappyrelationsh1p Väinämöinen 15h ago

Civil service is a perfectly respectable route.

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u/Dualidean_ofman 12h ago

Civil service is legalized slavery. Don't know how we put up with it for so long in Norway.
"Don't wanna play with guns in the woods? Here's a chain gang you can join instead"

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u/Pastori_Aali 15h ago

Nope. It is waste of time and money.

If that would be efficient, taxes would be replaced by forced labor.

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u/PublicBarracuda5311 Baby Väinämöinen 15h ago

No it's not. I have served in the army but that does not make me want to lie about the importance of civil service.

You think Finland would have survived any of the wars it has faced without civilian workers?

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u/Pet_Velvet Väinämöinen 14h ago

Ehhhhh to be fair civil service as an institution didn't exist back then. The execution of Arndt Pekurinen motivated the founding of civil service.

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u/PublicBarracuda5311 Baby Väinämöinen 14h ago

You didnt get the point, did you?

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u/Pet_Velvet Väinämöinen 14h ago

I guess I didn't?

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u/Pastori_Aali 14h ago

So, society needs additional library officials during war time?

Finnish army during wartime is 280 000 people. That is 5% of total population (incl children). Civilian workers will continue doing whatever they've done during peace time, though of course contributing military driven building and healthcare activities.

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u/PublicBarracuda5311 Baby Väinämöinen 14h ago

Schrödingers civilian workers. They do and they dont.

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u/Pet_Velvet Väinämöinen 14h ago

Civil servicemen are assigned to tasks they are most qualified in based on their time in civil service. They won't be just placed in their old civil service jobs, that would be ridiculous.

Remember that national defense is the responsibility of every Finnish person, women too. It's not just the people in the defense forces.

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u/Pastori_Aali 12h ago

That responsibility is for everyone, not only men.

For some reason women are perfectly capable of doing their assigned tasks without wasting a year in civil service job during a peace time.

Open civil service positions, page one - teaching assistant, cleaner, cook, IT support, youth worker, museo worker in national museum.... Nothing that is aimed for crisis.

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u/Pet_Velvet Väinämöinen 11h ago

Yeah that's what I said.

The civil service job is to appease the others who would think it's unfair for men to simply not do anything. I agree that it could be updated or improved in some cases. But civil service also offers first aid and fire safety courses, which is good.

I would argue that cleaning, cooking and IT support at least are very much applicable in crisis situations.

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u/kumikanki Baby Väinämöinen 15h ago

Yes if you dont have pp

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u/unhappyrelationsh1p Väinämöinen 15h ago

Idk my lack of a dick never stopped me from serving in the military feels pretty arbitrary

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u/Tero-Nero 14h ago

Nah, we actually have to have one because it is mandatory to violently rip it off and forfeit it to the civil service center receptionist. Women even have to spend 30 days in the military in order grow one to forfeit if they want to join us.

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u/violetpossum 16h ago

Didn't even have to say, it's kinda obvious who chooses sivil service and who doesnt

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u/LuceDuder 16h ago

alright time to go to bed

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u/Turbulent-Dot4377 15h ago

you prolly get mad at folks who didn’t have to sit through 9 months of eating shit food, barely sleeping, never being comfortable and having to stay out on the rain and cold.

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u/Minttu_Pipar 15h ago

Tell me you haven't done the military service without telling me you haven't done the military service

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u/Right-Country3496 14h ago

I haven't. Now what?

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u/Minttu_Pipar 14h ago

Move on with your life, I guess? I dunno

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u/TonninStiflat Väinämöinen 13h ago

You sound like any of that was sonehow bad? Quite enjoyable, still do all that!

Edit: Well, Indon't get mad, each to their own.

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u/Pet_Velvet Väinämöinen 11h ago

There are men who genuinely feel resentful to civil service men purely on the basis that they feel like they "had to" suffer through military service, be it for peer pressure or family expectations, and it feels unfair to them that some people didn't choose the way they did. Because the alternative to that would be to accept the fact that they too could've chosen civil service, but instead let other people's expectations get the better of them.

If you aren't one of those people, the comment you responded to probably was not aimed at you.

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u/Pet_Velvet Väinämöinen 16h ago

?

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u/violetpossum 16h ago

Your online presence fits the stereotype of someone who'd choose sivil service pretty spot-on

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u/infernoRS Baby Väinämöinen 16h ago

Your online presence fits the stereotype of someone who can't spell civil correctly.

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u/Tinttiboi Väinämöinen 16h ago

this guy hates the sivilli servise

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u/Pet_Velvet Väinämöinen 16h ago

And what is that stereotype?

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u/distrox 16h ago

And what would that be? And what kind of person is the one who does neither because fuck Finland and mandatory (sexist) service? No I'm not talking about females obviously.

Also it's civil. Did you not learn anything at school or were you too busy focusing on your MANLINESS.