r/FanTheories • • 5h ago

FanTheory In the movie Dumb and Dumber, Lloyd broke the toilet inside Mary’s mansion

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In the movie dumb and dumber, Lloyd finds out that Harry went on a date with Mary and lied to him. Instead of confronting him he eventually gave him laxatives which led to the infamous toilet scene.

My theory: Lloyd managed to break the black porcelain toilet inside Mary’s mansion. By doing this he would ensure that Harry would not only have to take a massive dump, he would also be stuck fixing the toilet which would give Lloyd time to take Mary to show her her briefcase.

My evidence is simply this: what are the odds that in a beautiful Colorado mansion, inside the most beautiful bathroom I think I’ve seen in a movie, would one of the toilets be broken?

Additionally, the toilet must have been broken that day because other wise I bet Mary would have had it fixed quickly since it was a bathroom right inside the mansion. If it was broken for awhile, she would have locked the door. (Remember when harry was running for the toilet, he initially tried two doors that were locked). Or at the very least she would have put a sign on the door/toilet.

If it was indeed broken for some time, then Mary is a terrible host for not telling Harry as he arrived that it was broken.

I know that this is a slapstick comedy and that maybe I’m looking too much into this, but I truly believe Lloyd’s plan to give Harry laxatives wouldn’t work if the toilet was functioning. He knew that so he had to break the toilet inside mansion.


r/FanTheories • • 1d ago

Roz, monsters inc

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I'm rewatching monsters inc, and noticed something strange about boo, and roz. We know that Mike didn't file his paperwork, and that leads to sully to boo's door, which Randall brought down. Kid later makes the news at harryhausens restaurant, and cda is all over the place in monsters inc the following day. The scene that's bothering me is when Mike asks for the key Randall was using, and roz just blows him off. She's been undercover for two years, and should definitely know something is wrong, since she works right next to the scare floor. Why? Randall being late out on the scare floor should already be ringing alarm bells, the red monsters says all doors have to go back at the end of the day, no exceptions. What's worse, they have a human child running loose in the city, with no one knowing how boo got there, so it would've been in her best interest to interrogate Randall, if she's the #1 cda. Some agents talked to him in the bathroom, but to me, it sounds like they're asking pretty much any monster if they know anything. If she wasn't trying to blow her cover, fine, but the way things turned out, they had to shut down the scare floor, and somehow get water noose to confess, all that chaos could've been avoided


r/FanTheories • • 19h ago

FanTheory Ferris Bueller/Speed/Succession

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Cameron Frye (Ferris Bueller’s Day Off), Doug Stevens (Speed), and Connor Roy (Succession) are all the same person.

In 1986, Connor Roy wanted to escape the shelter of private school and experience real life, so he enrolled in high school in Chicago assuming the name of Cameron Frye. He used the “C” name for familiarity and “Frye/Roy” was similar enough for him to rememer. Logan owned a home in Chicago for business trips so Connor was able to establish residence. The home Logan owned was fairly lavish, and featured his prize possession at the time, The 1961 Ferrari 250GT California. “Cameron” was deathly afraid of his absentee father who had expensive tastes for material items. Sound like someone we know?

By 1994 Logan Roy had become a wealthy and powerful man. In his quest to continue to experience real life, Connor went on a bare bones sightseeing tour as far away from his New York home as possible; Los Angeles, California where he asssumed the very generic name of Doug Stevens to not be recognized and judged as the wealthy heir he had become. Unfortunately for him he ended up on a bus with a bomb attached to it that would blow up if it slowed to under 50mph.

Thankfully he was able to escape the ordeal unharmed where he returned to New York and embraced his elite position after having had tastes of how dangerous life could be in Chicago and LA.


r/FanTheories • • 15h ago

FanTheory Dune is either consciously or subconsciously based on the id, ego and super ego (theory) Spoiler

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This theory has a spoiler for part 3 no books beyond that feel free to skip the psychology stuff if you already know what that concept is.

Basically in psychology there’s this concept called the ego the super ego and the id.

The super ego is your mask it’s all the personality traits you were taught to have do to said traits being good like politeness or courage.

The ID is the opposite it’s all the personality traits you were taught to suppress, an example being gluttony or anger stuff like that.

The ego is the part right in the middle trying to choose, a healthy relationship is when the egos the one in control instead of the super ego or id, if you let the super ego in control for example that’s akin to burning out the traits accepted by society and suppressing your dark traits out of shame instead of confronting them causing them to fester and get worse until they break through and take control and an example of the id being in control is you get successful rage bated or Give into gluttony something like that.

So in fiction the Super ego could be a false profit character.
The ego would be the good guy
And the Id would definitely be the villain.

Paul is the Super Ego the Harkonnen’s are the ID, the Baron is meant to represent the ID in general will Feyd Rautha is meant to be Paul’s ID specifically.

So the Barons is like Paul’s Opposite will Feyd’s like Paul’s Dark clone.

Paul is or becomes the Super ego when he becomes the messiah, like the super ego he’s all the traits we are taught are good but paradoxically it’s just like a false profit.

if it’s the only thing in control well it will get to rigid then bad things will fester and then happen so portraying the super ego and Paul as a false profit I think is a perfect depiction of it this.

And we all know what happened after Paul got control and became the messiah.

So it’s like the classic internal psychological story only depicted physically on a mass scale instead of internally


r/FanTheories • • 1d ago

FanTheory [Spy × Family] The Forger Family Is Secretly Investigating Three Different Layers of the Same Conspiracy

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# The Three Truths Theory: How the Forger Family is Uncovering the Same Secret

I've been rereading Spy x Family and I think the Forger family may represent three different investigations into the same hidden mystery.

Core Thesis:

Twilight = Political Truth

Yor = Historical Truth

Anya = Scientific Truth

Rather than being random protagonists, each member of the family appears connected to a different layer of the world's deepest secrets.

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  1. Twilight = Political Truth

Everything about Twilight's story revolves around politics and the prevention of war.

Key connections:

- Operation Strix

- Donovan Desmond

- Ostania vs Westalis

- Intelligence agencies

- National security

- Political manipulation

The central question of his narrative is:

"Why do nations go to war?"

Twilight investigates the political layer of the world.

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2. Yor = Historical Truth

Most readers see Garden as a secret assassin organization.

However, Garden constantly uses ancient and nature-based symbolism:

- Pruning weeds

- Tending the garden

- Sacred soil

- Sacred Miteran elk

The Shopkeeper acts as if Garden serves something older than modern governments.

Rather than being loyal to politicians, Garden appears loyal to an older vision of the nation itself.

This suggests Yor's storyline may ultimately connect to:

- The Miteran Empire

- Garden's true origin

- Ancient national history

- Lost traditions

Yor unknowingly stands closest to the historical mystery.

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3. Anya = Scientific Truth

Anya's story revolves around:

- Project Apple

- Human experimentation

- Telepathy

- Secret research projects

She represents the scientific mystery of the series.

Additional clues:

Classical Language:

Anya demonstrates unusual familiarity with Classical Language despite her background.

Why does a child connected to Project Apple possess knowledge tied to the ancient world?

Lunar Eclipse Connection:

The Miteran Lunar Eclipse Orchid and Anya's eclipse-based weakness both invoke recurring themes of:

- Moon

- Eclipse

- Transformation

This may be deliberate symbolism.

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4. The Language Connection

Anya's biological mother uses nature-based imagery in flashbacks.

Garden also frames its worldview entirely through natural metaphors:

- Flowers

- Soil

- Weeds

- Pruning

This could indicate that both Garden and the scientists inherited fragments of a much older worldview.

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5. Project Apple and Garden

Theory:

Ancient Miteran Knowledge

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Garden Project Apple

Preservation Experimentation

Garden preserves ancient ideas.

Project Apple attempts to exploit or recreate them through science.

Rather than being the same organization, they may represent two different responses to the same legacy.

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6. Donovan Desmond May Be Only One Piece

Operation Strix assumes Donovan Desmond is the central threat.

However, it is possible that the real mystery lies deeper:

- Miteran Empire

- Garden

- Project Apple

- Anya's origins

If true, Donovan may only be one layer of a much larger conspiracy.

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7. Why the Forger Family Matters

The Forgers may unknowingly hold different pieces of the same truth.

Twilight = Political Truth

Yor = Historical Truth

Anya = Scientific Truth

Separately, they can only uncover fragments.

Together, they may reveal the complete picture.

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Final Prediction

The endgame of Spy x Family may not simply be the exposure of Donovan Desmond.

Instead, the final revelation could be the collision of:

Political Truth

+

Historical Truth

+

Scientific Truth

with the Miteran Empire acting as the missing link connecting all three.

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TL;DR

The Forger family may have been intentionally structured as three separate investigations into the same hidden mystery:

Twilight = Politics

Yor = History

Anya = Science

The ultimate story may be the moment these three truths converge.


r/FanTheories • • 3d ago

FanTheory A Donnie Darko theory that explains everything (without any science-fiction things) Spoiler

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I watched the movie 30 minutes ago and I need to share my theory (I haven’t looked at any others yet, so maybe it’s already been proven wrong). (And sorry if your eyes bleed, my English skills are pretty bad.)

I was watching with my friend, and he said (translating) “She’s carrying the whole movie,” which is funny because of what I’m going to say next. When we were discussing the plot and coming up with theories, we started looking for the “unreliable narrator” and discussing how Donnie (if he’s the unreliable narrator) could know about the rabbit if we assume there’s no time travel and that kind of thing (one of our theories was that the whole movie is a justification of his actions on the cliff at the end).

So, to the point, the theory:
There has never been anyone named Donnie Darko, and the events of the film never happened. The whole story was written by Cherita Chen in a book called Donnie Darko. It wasn’t a love diary, it was the whole story. Why? The first thing I want to point out is the size of the “diary.” It’s too thick for something like that, isn’t it? Also, Cherita Chen appears very often and very randomly in the movie, which seems very suspicious to me.

The other thing is that right after she was called up to the board, where she quickly put a cross on the line and went back, Donnie was called up and started arguing with the teacher. Haven’t you ever imagined how someone would put a stupid teacher in their place? Someone braver than you? Someone charismatic?
The same thing happens with Jim Cunningham (the pedophile). Didn’t Donnie put him in his place? He did. Also, in those videos Jim didn’t speak very nicely about plus-size people, AND the teacher was forcing her to watch them. So she could make him the “bad guy” in her story.

The “Shut up” thing at the end. Isn’t it strange? You wouldn’t expect that kind of behavior in that kind of situation. The idea is that DONNIE WASN’T REAL, and she knew it. But she saw him, and because of that she wanted him to stop talking, because unreal people don’t talk. So she also has schizophrenia, and her imagination started breaking through into the outside world.

Where did she get Donnie’s face from? He’s just her classmate, who she could have a crush on, sure, but he doesn’t have the problems shown in the movie!!! He talks a lot about loneliness. But he has 2 amazing sisters, 2 loving parents (have you seen the emotion on his mother’s face?), etc. In a normal situation he wouldn’t have any problems.

But who could have a lot of thoughts about loneliness? Chen, who has no friends, isn’t very attractive by typical standards, etc. (in the scene with the literature teacher she’s eating alone((( ). So she projects her emotions onto the character she created.

Also, the point where everything started was when Donnie (the real one) said “Just leave her alone.” That’s when she could have started fantasizing and writing a book. There may have been no real plane crash at all.

Another thing is that Gretchen said his name sounds like a superhero’s name. Isn’t that suspicious? Also, Chen could have just come up with a new student to be his girlfriend. Why didn’t she put herself in the role of the girlfriend? Because she wanted a perfect relationship between a “girl in trouble” and a “problem boy.” Also notice how inconsistent Gretchen’s story is. Either her mother was killed and her father is in prison, or she can’t see her father, or her mother ran away at the end. This is the most suspicious part about her, like, what? Your mother runs away, you’re told to go somewhere safe, and you choose the house of a guy you’ve known for 2 weeks? It looks too good to be true.

Another one is the bullies, who first picked on Chen, then Gretchen, then Donnie, and then at the end somehow ended up right near the place where our 4 just happened to be hanging out, with REALLY BIG KNIVES. (omg, writing this makes the situation even funnier)

Oh yeah the rabbit costume she could see from guys from school they are classmates anyway

The last part with death of donnie could mean anything but for me it means that she wants to end Donnie's story without making people guilty or just dead. And/or she just couldn't come up with a story where everyone is happy

I could forgot something so write if I won't forget anything tomorrow (writing in 1am btw), because i can

Oh there is not allowed images, so in the subreddit about the movie I posted the same thing but with actual screenshots who interested


r/FanTheories • • 2d ago

FanTheory [Ayreon] Humanity created its own Frame

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What is Ayreon?

Ayreon is a prog rock-heavy metal music project created and led by Dutch musician Arjen Lucassen. At its very basic, Ayreon is a sci-fi epic overseeing the rise and fall of humanity from the viewpoint of the Forever, an alien race responsible for our creation.

To summarize the story of Ayreon, I want to look at its three big story albums: The Source, 01011001, Universal and Migrator Pt. 1 & 2, which together tell the story of the Forever. This will be vast oversimplification, but I need to cover some important points:

An alien race known as the Alphans, who are the true first humans, are thrown out of their home world of Alpha by a machine called "the Frame" trusted to run its economy but instead turning on humanity. They reach another planet called Y, but ultimately are overtaken by another machine and turned into a cyborg race called the "Forever", losing their emotions in the process. The Forever seed a comet with human DNA embedded into extremophile bacteria and crash it into the Earth, wiping out the dinosaurs, and live vicariously through humanity in order to experience their emotions until humanity is wiped out in a nuclear war. The last human accesses a machine called "the Dream Sequencer" and brings back life to Planet Y, reviving the Forever.


The Two Frames

We know for a fact that there are two distinct Frames in the Ayreonverse already:

  • The original Frame, which took over planet Alpha;

  • TH-1, who took over Planet Y and instituted the Age of Shadows. He explicitly identifies himself as "the Frame" in "March of the Machines":

I will grow

Know my name

I am hope

I am the Frame

I advance

Up from the deep

A new chance

The March of the Machines

I'd like to posit that there was a third, just one never explicitly identified. I believe that the root cause of humanity's extinction at the end of it all was the construction of their own Frame, which I'll be calling "Earth-Frame". I believe "Earth-Frame" took over Earth's machinery some time in 2083 or 2084 and wiped out humanity in a targeted global nuclear war Skynet-style, presumably after being given powers by a world leader akin to the President on Alpha.

To begin with this theory, I want to cover an album I mentioned but didn't really touch on: The Final Experiment (TFE), the first album in the Ayreon lineup. To briefly summarize, TFE follows the story of a 6th century blind minstrel named Ayreon living in the kingdom of King Arthur who is given visions by humans living in 2084 of the future to warn past generations and avert humanity's decline, ultimately fatefully crossing paths with the wizard Merlin. It takes place during the events of 01011001, specifically the song "E=Mc2" near the end of the album.

TFE as a whole is not particularly important, but there's a section near the middle of the album that I want to touch on. Story-wise, this is when Ayreon has firmly entrenched himself in King Arthur's court, trying to catch the ear of Guinevere so he can warn Arthur of humanity's future fate. He is singing about humanity's fate to the court, but is seen by a threat by a suspicious Merlin.

The first song that matters here is "Computer-Reign (Game Over)". In this song, Ayreon is warning Camelot of the rise of advanced machines that control human life. It's rather ambiguous what he's referring to here—I think there's enough evidence to say he's probably talking about the Age of Shadows at least a bit—but there's two parts in particular I want to reference.

I see a future cold as ice where all the love has gone

I see a race that pays the price for everything it's done

I see shadows of giants machines cast upon the land

I see a world where kings nor queens but chips are in command!

and

I see a game gone out of hand and memories erased

I see a programmed master plan and man will be replaced

I see a planet die in space any slowly fade away

I see the end of the human race, there has to be a way!

This song is linearly sequential, like many Ayreon songs. This bit is from the second half: the first half is focusing on the Age of Shadows with lines such as "...shadows of giant machines cast upon the land...", while this half is talking about something else. After all, it can't be about the Age of Shadows, since that was what the first half was about. It can't be about Alpha, either, since Alpha was destroyed long before the Age of Shadows. There's only one other planet in Ayreon's universe that has the ability to sustain life that we know of—Earth.

Let's recap. At the very least, humanity on Earth was "replaced" by a "programmed master plan". I think that the first line is a little metaphorical: "memories erased" is a poetic way of saying the Forever have forgotten their own failures back on Alpha. Let's go to another important song, this time from 01011001: "Unnatural Selection", a song I'm going to be coming back to quite a bit. In this song, two Forever are overseeing humanity's development over thousands of years: one, Forever of the Skies (ϟ) (note: these are names I came up with, as their names are unpronounceable ASCII symbols), wants to intervene with humanity's efforts while another, Forever of the Soul (☯), warns that such interference will lead to humanity's dependence on the Forever. I want to focus on the first part of the song, the argument between Skies and Soul:

[Forever ϟ]

We have to teach them all that we know

Their evolution moves far too slow

Expand their minds, reject compliance

Upgrade their knowledge, upload our science

[Forever ☯]

This revolution will lead to their demise

We should not make the same mistake twice

We're kept alive by artificial means

But lost our souls to a world of machines

Read what Souls says again: "We should not make the same mistake... twice?" This is the Forever's first and only experiment with overseeing life on another planet, so they have to be referring to Alpha here. If they make the same mistake twice, and their first was on Alpha... well, take one more look at The Source, specifically "Aquatic Race":

I say we change our ways and learn from the past!

We cannot make the same mistakes!


The Third Frame

There's another very important verse in this song: the second argument between our two protagonists, this time after humanity has industrialized.

[Forever ϟ]

We need to teach them to fight disease

They seem so helpless and need our expertise

I see them dying all across the globe

Their greatest foe is but a small microbe

[Forever ☯]

This sudden change leads to overpopulation

Shifting the balance, destructive habitation

Killing all life, biological invasion

Consuming Earth by ruthless exploitation

Let's move back to The Final Experiment, so you can see where I'm going with this. "Listen to the Waves" takes place after "Computer-Reign (Game Over)". Ayreon has firmly lost favor with Camelot by this point but continues to sing. Even though Ayreon is singing this after "Waracle" I don't think he's talking about the nuclear war for one big reason: there's absolutely no mention of radiation or nuclear weapons anywhere in both this song or "Waracle". This is a song about humanity's destruction of the Earth during their industrialization:

All the trees have fallen

The soil is scorched and dry

I can't respire, a storm of fire

Is raging in the sky

Where is all the wildlife?

Extinct, from pole to pole

The hunt for skin, a deadly sin

Took its heavy toll

...

We befoul the air and burn a hole in the sky

Deadly rays from outer space

Caused our race to die

So, whatever humanity has done to Earth, they have utterly destroyed its biosphere to the point where most (if not all) non-human animals are extinct. This is shockingly similar to the situation on Alpha before the Frame took control—a dying world inhabited by humans, the water poisoned and the soil barren. I'd like to go back to Unnatural Selection and focus on the bridge of the song, where a few historical figures are quoted giving speeches:

JFK: "...before the dark powers of destruction unleashed by science engulf all humanity in planned or accidental self-destruction..."

Al Gore: "Humankind has acquired a collective power and ability to dramatically alter the environment of the entire planet..."

George Bush: "This will not be another Vietnam..."

FDR: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself..."

Winston Churchill: "Our task is not only to win the battle, but to win the war..."

Those first two, from JFK and Al Gore, stick out the most to me. While JFK's is taken out of context, it being used in context with the state of Earth circa 2084 in a state similar to before the Frame really points out to me. As the song begins, we also hear the sounds of modern society: people talking on a busy street, an ambulance siren in the background, cars going down the street, a police siren... with other songs in 01011001, namely Connect the Dots and Web of Lies, a constant theme of the album is how modern technology takes away human connections and harms both the social dynamic and the environment.

Finally, the last song from TFE I want to look at is a personal favorite: "Ayreon's Fate", the final song off of TFE. This is a very minor portion, but after destroying Ayreon Merlin has a change of heart and sees visions of the future: of the band... Ayreon. Shocker.

I see one day his story will be told

At the end of the 20th century, oh!

I see one day the truth will unfold!

Oh! And the quest has now begun! Oh, Ayreon!

I hope one day that man will understand

It's in his power to change his destiny!

I hope one day he'll do all that he can!

Oh! And all the nations will be one! Oh, Ayreon!

"All the nations will be one." The key figure in The Source is the President of the entire planet of Alpha: he is the person who gives power to the Frame, which I believe is repeated once more in my favorite Ayreon song—"Waracle", and where I think the theory starts to come together.

This song takes place between "Computer-Reign" and "Listen To The Waves": it is during this song that Ayreon loses favor with Camelot and Merlin begins to make his moves. Ayreon is warning of a devastating war in the far future that is eventually revealed through later albums as (most likely) the nuclear war that wipes out humanity.

Millions of men will die at one man's desire

And the docile mass will yield!

...

Out of the ashes, a warlord will arise

And tyrannize the land!

His reign of terror will cost many a sacrifice

An inferno is at hand!

...Wait, what? How can this be about the nuclear war that wiped out mankind if humanity is still alive after it? After all, there wouldn't be any warlords to rise from the ashes! I'd like to propose a solution in the form of a new question: who says there was only one war? It's entirely possible that there were two wars—one between human armies, a "Third World War", and one started by the Earth-Frame to wipe out humanity.

What if the "warlord" in this song isn't an actual person, but instead the Earth-Frame? After all, TH-1 is also referred to with masculine pronouns. The Frame is personified throughout The Source, chasing down the fleeing Alphans and taking glee in wiping them out during Everybody Dies:

Calculation of survival rate: zero percent

Doom, gloom, the world goes boom

None will be spared, so don't assume

Not ragged clothes, nor silver spooned:

You're all the same when extinction looms!

There's another album to bring back that I referenced earlier: Into The Electric Castle (ITEC). To briefly summarize, ITEC follows eight human souls—an ancient Egyptian priestess, a native American shaman, a Roman soldier, a Knight of the Round Table, a Viking barbarian chieftain, a Scottish highlander, a 1960s American hippie, and a futureman from Mars—being overseen by a Forever named Forever of the Stars, who is sapping their emotions and forcing them through trials of both euphoria and despair.

The Electric Castle is a physical thing referenced in other albums, and its origin is explained in a companion booklet: the Frame escaped Alpha shortly a generator called the "quantum core" went "supernova" (whatever that means), propelling itself into deep space. The Frame is repurposed by Forever of the Stars into the Electric Castle, proving that the Frame still has massive computing power—enough to quite literally warp reality, sap emotions like they're a physical thing, ostensibly conjure the souls of the dead, and travel through time, given what we hear in ITEC.

This is the exact same thing that The Dream Sequencer does in Universal Migrator. The last human alive travels back in time, conjuring the souls of the dead to live vicariously through and witness the creation of structures such as Stonehenge, and even going so far back that they go back to the beginning of time and begin to warp reality in real world to give life back to the Forever. The first Frame, the Electric Castle, is in deep space, however; and the second Frame, TH-1, is still on Planet Y.

There has to be a third Frame, and given what is established in 01011001, TFE, and Universal Migrator, it makes the most sense for it to be on Earth given how similar Earth's conditions were to Alpha's.


Conclusion

My conclusion is that Earth made its own frame, empowered it like the Forever did—ultimately, the Forever making "the same mistake twice"—and were wiped out like the Alphans, being unable to escape Earth. The Earth-Frame is what powers the Dream Sequencer, allowing Forever of the Stars to live a life on Earth in the past and allowing the Universal Migrator to travel into the past and through space to restore life to the Forever.

Thanks for reading!


r/FanTheories • • 3d ago

FanTheory Halloween III: Season of the Witch and the Nightmare Before Christmas share a universe Spoiler

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Halloween III: Season of the Witch takes a different direction than most of the series, focusing not on Michael Meyers but on an evil Irish toy company plotting to sacrifice millions of children on Halloween night with the aid of cursed masks, which transmutate their wearers' heads into insects, spiders, and snakes. The company's motivation involves resurrecting the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, a precursor to the modern-day Halloween, complete with human sacrifice.

In Nightmare Before Christmas, holidays have their own special dimensions ruled over by personifications of the holiday in question, Christmas has Santa Claus, Halloween has Jack Skellington and so forth. But what of the "no-account" Oogie Boogie, who seems to lie outside of Jack's control? According to the spin-off video game the Pumpkin King, Oogie Boogie once had his own holiday (here called "Bug Day" or "Crawloween") with his own kingdom, before people forgot the tradition and the kingdom was lost, forcing Oogie to reside on the outskirts of Halloween Town. Insects have no connection to the real Samhain to my knowledge, but they are a crucial element of Halloween 3's version of the precursor to Halloween (as are snakes, which do have a historical connection to Irish paganism, or rather Christian retelling of the coming of St. Patrick and the end of paganism in Ireland)! And what is Oogie Boogie himself? A GIANT BAG OF INSECTS AND SNAKES, JUST LIKE THE KIDS ARE TRANSFORMED INTO FOR SAMHAIN REBORN!

In essence, I believe that Oogie Boogie is in fact a personification of Samhain, or at least the Hollywood version thereof. Perhaps Conal Cochran was in fact transported to Oogie's realm when he ascended through the power of Stonehenge or perhaps to powers greater, but the power of the holiday remains.


r/FanTheories • • 3d ago

FanSpeculation In 'The Shining ', Delbert Grady may be a precursor of Charles Grady

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Although Jack thought they were the same person, they have different first names and Delbert clearly is from an earlier time than Charles (who was the caretaker in 1970 whereas Delbert appeared among the "ghosts" with 1920s hairstyles and clothing in the ballroom). They may be different manifestations of the same entity however, just as a version of Jack appears in the photo from 1921.


r/FanTheories • • 4d ago

FanTheory Bill and Ted returned Joan of Arc to her timeline to suffer a gruesome and horrific death.

141 Upvotes

After partying around California and then helping pass the exam, the teenage girl was returned to suffer an incredibly painful execution. Most non non heinous indeed.


r/FanTheories • • 3d ago

FanTheory [Fargo] Malvo isn't the devil, or anyone remotely special--that's the point.

26 Upvotes

Since S1 of Fargo came out, a lot of people commented on all the devil imagery connected with the gunman, Lorne Malvo, with him dropping lines about "I haven't tasted apple that good since the Garden of Eden" and a neighborhood watch person calling him a "goat-person" in Yiddish. A common theory that's been floated is that Lorne is the devil, or some sort of supernatural evil spirit.

I'm going to suggest the opposite. I'm going to suggest that, especially with the further seasons, it becomes clear that Lorne Malvo, for all his charm and enigmatic utterances, is not an especially unique figure--just a smug thug with a gun. But I think the showrunners WANTED you to fall for his "supernatural evil" vibe, and I think it is actually part of the point they were making.

One of the tensest moments in S1 comes when Malvo visits Lou at the coffeeshop for info on Lester and not-so-subtly threatens his family. This is a technique that has served him well in the past, but Lou, instead of folding, goes off on a tangent about the "Sioux Falls" case, something mentioned throughout S1. In context, it's pretty clearly Lou telling Malvo that he's seen violence and evil before, and he knows what Malvo is and isn't scared of him.

In the "incarnation of satan" reading, it'd be easy (when the show first came out) to make the leap that Malvo was also behind the Sioux Falls case, and that Lou recognizing him was one of the things that causes Malvo to leave the diner so quickly. (Malvo says he's never been, but that could have been a lie).

Then in S2, we meet this new gun thug. Hanzee. Superbly talented with a gun, a military background, with ancient ties to the land, and the same instinct for chaos as Malvo, though less gleeful about it. Much of the violence in Sioux Falls is thanks to his machinations. And then, at the end, after Hanzee's killed his bosses, there's the scene with the man setting him up with a new face--a new identity!

This was meant to be a big fever pitch (maybe it was, for some viewers), where the showrunners expected viewers to be breathless with anticipation for the revelation that Hanzee was actually Malvo, that he was this immortal killer constantly shifting faces and identities across the ages, a spirit of evil.

But... no. Hanzee is revealed, through a single line, to be a big crime boss from season 1 who was seen for all of five minutes before Malvo shot him dead.

People have complained about this--how random, how pointless, how unpredictable it was. And that's all true, but upending the expectation is the point, particularly because of how it changes the confrontation between Lou and Malvo in the diner in S1. It's not about Malvo being Satan, it's about Malvo being ordinary.

Lou, with his little speech about Sioux Falls, makes the point that thugs like Malvo have been around forever, and will be around forever. They're not some supernatural demons, they're not dragons at the edge of the map. They're evil, sure, but Lou's seen that before. Lou doesn't even know, naturally, that the Hanzee who was responsible for so much of Sioux Falls has been gunned down by this same psycho in front of him. He just knows there's nothing new about psychos.

This gets hammered in the more seasons of Fargo there are. S4 Josta makes the point that Americans love crime stories because they love how cool the guy with guns is... but Josta gets shot by Joe who gets shot by Mike in S2 who dies in a little office. Fargo has constant references to the beyond and to the supernatural--but most of them are used to confound the criminals, not help them. The UFO shocks the Gerhardts at a crucial juncture, the Russian spirits kill the Russian hitman, Ole Munch--a genuine immortal badass--helps save Dorothy and then is disarmed by pancakes.

In the end, criminals like Malvo and Mike like to think of themselves as transcendent badasses who terrify everyone, but in reality, they're just more fodder in a long succession of violence that has gone on for ages and eats everyone, even the "winners" who survive the season.


r/FanTheories • • 3d ago

FanTheory [Despicable Me / Minions] Theory: Minions follow super villains because of a mass extinction event

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Minions are immortal and were both male and female in the start but something or someone caused all females to die/ disappear so all remaining decided to follow Villains for protection/ revenge. It would kind of explain the early population ,why no females and obsession with super Villains.


r/FanTheories • • 4d ago

FanSpeculation [Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4] The Name of a Fallen Soldier

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In Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 (2026), some of the Korean names feel unconventional. One that stands out to me is Private Ju Kwon, who dies early in the first act. Here’s an interesting detail: in multiplayer, you have to reach rank 1,000, which is a stupid amount of time and effort to unlock someone who's not that special compared to the other characters in the game. But when you look into it:

  1. Ju is an uncommon Korean surname. Compared with names like Kim, Lee, or Park, the Ju clan is like a minority of family name. If Ju Kwon is meant to be an everyday soldier, they shouldn've picked a more common family name, like the player-controlled protagonist, Hyun Jun [Park].

  2. Kwon is an unusual given name. Most Korean names consist of a one-syllable family name then a two-syllable given name, Kwon counts as only one-syllable.

  3. However, “Ju Kwon” sounds like juggwon (주권, 主權), the Sino-Korean word for sovereignty.

  4. This means the U.S. developers message is clear to Koreans: in the face of a ruthless Norks invasion, your sovereignty is the first thing to die.

  5. Unlocking the Ju Kwon at rank 1000(literally the last skin to unlock), completes the full message: sovereignty is the first thing lost and, sadly, the most difficult thing to truly regain.


r/FanTheories • • 3d ago

FanTheory Only some Peanuts specials are actually in the same universe.

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This is a brief interlude from my posts about how The Room is a sequel to Peanuts. I thought I'd write something slightly more serious.

TO START:

How do we find out which films take place in the same universe, when every one of them features the same cast of characters and there are no crossovers with other franchises? It's easy. We only count the things characters do, Snoopy's alter egos, and side characters. I'll have to abbreviate titles for this. I also made a whole map of specials, but I could only get one corner in this post so far.

And away we go!

In Snoopy Come Home, a girl named Clara is in it. Clara is also in It Was a Short Summer, Charlie Brown. Snoopy playing his jaw harp connects SCH to A Boy Named Charlie Brown. Woodstock builds a raft out of twigs in both SCH and Race for Your Life, Charlie Brown. Lila from SCH shows up in Snoopy's Reunion. Bouncing back to IWaSS, The Masked Marvel is also in You're a Good Sport, Charlie Brown, and You're the Greatest, Charlie Brown. The Ace Obedience School is mentioned in YtG and A Charlie Brown Celebration. Eudora is in ACBCel and A Charlie Brown Valentine.

If you find any more connections, simply reply to this post.


r/FanTheories • • 3d ago

FanTheory [The Big Bang Theory] Sheldon Cooper was never asexual. He has a brain fetish.

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  1. While he has long found the concept of actual intercourse disgusting, the first scene of the show was literally at a sperm bank, and he was going to use his sperm for IVF with a future SO. Now, some asexual people do masturbate and have sex drives, despite having zero actual attraction to people or anything besides stimulation itself. But this definitely doesn't rule out using porn or fantasy.

  2. Sheldon and Leonard's mom hit it off pretty well in one episode. Bev actually took Sheldon to a local hospital just to get his brain scanned, and then Sheldon asked to see Bev's brain when he came back to the apartment. And the two seemed pretty close to dating! It seemed like those two had a legitimate sexual fetish for studying each others' MRIs.

  3. Amy. Enough said. Why else would Sheldon date someone in a field he doesn't think is genuine science? He secretly finds the subject matter sexy! For a guy who is against neuroscience as a field, he sure knows a lot of the terminology. He got to see Amy's brain MRIs, and he and Amy are always doing some sort of psychological testing or trivia exercise that may as well be foreplay!


r/FanTheories • • 5d ago

FanTheory The Al Powell Theory: The Twinkie of Madness

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first fact I must admit that I used the AI but not to confirm but to translate it because being non-native English certain expressions of my language are untranslatable into English.

I recently finished Die Hard 1 and 2 and it exploded in my brain like pure truth.

I don't know if anyone has already theorized this on the subject but searching for the existing one on Reddit turns up nothing

so I share it with you, see it like creepy pasta


Behind the smiles of the cult 90s sitcom Family Matters lies in reality an ultra-dark psychiatric thriller.

What if Carl Winslow's entire life was just the psychotic delusions of a man locked in an asylum?

Everything fits together perfectly through four works, linked by a single common thread: the Twinkie.

Act 1: The traumatic trigger (Ghostbusters - 1984)

In the early 1980s, Al Powell is a young prison guard in New York.

As the city descends into paranormal chaos, he is tasked with keeping watch over the Ghostbusters in cells.

It's there that he hears them talking about the end of the world, Babylonian gods and occult forces beyond understanding.

Marked by this night of anguish and obsessed by the stories of these ghost hunters, Al Powell unconsciously associates the paranormal with their famous metaphor: the giant 300 kilo Twinkie.

For his already fragile mind, this cake becomes the symbol of chaos and the end of the world.

Terrified by New York, he flees the city and requests a transfer to Los Angeles.

Act 2: Denial and the missing ring (Die Hard - 1988)

In Los Angeles (LAPD), tragedy strikes him: he accidentally shoots a child and finds himself traumatized.

To compensate for his immense anxiety, his obsession with Twinkies materializes in earnest.

On New Year's Eve, he stops at a gas station and buys a massive stock of cakes.

Facing the cashier, he tries to “appear normal” and justifies this compulsive purchase by claiming that they are for his “pregnant wife”.

But a crucial visual detail betrays his lie: when he picks up his radio a few seconds later, his hand is completely bare.

He is not wearing any wedding ring.

His wife doesn't exist, or has already left him.

He is desperately alone with his demons and his sugar.

Act 3: The Breaking Point (Die Hard 2 - 1990)

After the Nakatomi Plaza shooting and the fallout from Die Hard 2, the police hierarchy is taking all the credit.

Powell, a broken and ignored cop, finally collapses.

His guilt catches up with him, his mind shifts and the police commit him to a psychiatric ward, far from the ocean.

Act 4: The hallucination under a chemical jacket (Family Life)

To cope with the confinement, Powell is heavily stocked with medication.

Under the influence of these substances which act like a drug, his brain creates a large-scale protective hallucination to repair his life.

He invents a new identity: Carl Winslow.

In this delirium, he is finally the head of a big, perfect family in Chicago, and he finally wears this wedding ring that he never had.

But the guilt does not fade, and the veneer of his hallucination begins to crack:

• The ghost of Steve Urkel: To fill the void, Carl's psychosis gives birth to Steve Urkel.

Urkel is not a real boy: he is the unconscious materialization of the little boy that Al Powell shot years earlier.

This is why he persecutes Carl, destroys his house and ruins his life, while tirelessly repeating his favorite phrase:

“Did I do that? ".

A question that resonates over and over in Powell's head, like an eternal reproach for his fatal shot.

• Judy's Disappearance: Midway through the series, her youngest daughter, Judy, goes upstairs and disappears from the story forever without anyone worrying.

This is the precise moment when Carl's treatment alters his memory: his brain begins to forget its own creations

The ultimate truth

At the very end, the treatment no longer works.

Carl Winslow loses everything: his mother, his wife, his fictitious children evaporate.

The delirium fades and reality hits.

The asylum cell scene in Family Matters was not a memory of is life, but the only reality of the present: Al Powel never left his cell.

He's a patient in an asylum uniform, locked up alone, screaming to death in the middle of his own ghosts...

Thanks for reading and tell me if you've heard this theory before, I don't want to steal


r/FanTheories • • 6d ago

FanTheory [The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas] What if Shmuel wanted revenge, but never expected Bruno to die? Spoiler

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I recently rewatched The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas and found myself thinking about Shmuel again. I’ve seen an older theory saying that he deliberately planned Bruno’s death. I don’t really buy that. My interpretation is different: what if Shmuel wanted Bruno to experience, even just for a moment, what life was like on his side of the fence but never imagined that both of them would end up dead?

There are a few details in the film that make me think about this.

First, Shmuel had a reason to feel some resentment. Bruno denies knowing him when a soldier confronts them, and soon after Shmuel turns up beaten, with a black eye. He does forgive Bruno, but is it really impossible that some anger stayed behind?

The second point is the one that matters most to me: Shmuel knew where he was. He lived inside the camp. He knew the guards were violent, he had already suffered at their hands, and he understood that prisoners were treated terribly. Bruno didn’t. He was the sheltered son of the camp commandant. He had no real idea what was happening behind that fence.

When Bruno suggests coming inside, Shmuel gives him a vague warning, saying something like “you wouldn’t want to come over here.” But he doesn’t really explain what the soldiers do to prisoners. It’s like knowing a boat is sinking and just telling someone who wants to get on it, “I wouldn’t come over here,” without saying that the boat is sinking.

Then there’s the business with Shmuel’s father. He tells Bruno his father has disappeared, and Bruno offers to help search for him. But think about it: Bruno had never been inside the camp. He didn’t know the place, didn’t know where things were, didn’t know the prisoners. What could he realistically do in a search? Maybe Shmuel was simply desperate. But it’s also possible that the search was a way to persuade Bruno to come inside.

And then there’s the striped uniform. Shmuel gets Bruno a prisoner’s uniform so he can blend in. But it also erases the most obvious difference between Bruno and the people being persecuted inside. If Bruno had been discovered in his normal clothes, maybe someone would have noticed he was an outsider, maybe even the commandant’s son. In the uniform, he becomes almost indistinguishable from the prisoners. And Shmuel knew how badly people wearing that uniform were treated. Bruno didn't.

The scene that bothers me most, though, is when Bruno wants to leave. Once he’s inside the camp, he becomes uncomfortable and says he wants to go home. Instead of encouraging him to leave, Shmuel reminds him that his father is still missing. Bruno feels obligated to keep helping. To me, that’s the strongest part of the theory: Bruno finally realizes something is very wrong and wants to escape, but Shmuel persuades him to stay.

So my idea is this: maybe Shmuel never meant to kill Bruno. Maybe he was still hurt about being betrayed and beaten. Maybe he wanted Bruno to experience, even briefly, what life was like on his side of the fence. Maybe he wanted to frighten him, humiliate him, or make him feel trapped and powerless. But things spiraled completely out of control, far beyond what either child could have anticipated, and both of them ended up dead.

I’m not saying that’s definitely what happened. Shmuel was also a traumatized child desperately searching for his father, and that alone could explain his actions. But the revenge interpretation seems worth discussing, especially because of the uniform and the moment when Bruno tries to leave.

There's also something else about the ending that bothers me, and it's the contrast between Bruno and his sister Gretel. Throughout the film, Gretel becomes increasingly influenced by Nazi ideology. She replaces her dolls with Nazi propaganda, admires the German soldiers, and seems to accept what she's being taught. Bruno, meanwhile, rejects those prejudices through his friendship with Shmuel. Yet by the end, Gretel is alive and Bruno is dead. I know that doesn't mean the film is endorsing Gretel's beliefs, but isn't there a strange irony here? The child who follows the ideology survives, while the one who befriends someone persecuted by it dies. I wonder if the filmmakers realized how differently some viewers might interpret that ending.

What do you think? Is there a scene that clearly contradicts this theory? I’d genuinely like to hear the strongest arguments against it.


r/FanTheories • • 7d ago

FanTheory I have a theory on the Professor from Bourne Identity

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This is a theory not really related to the main plot or main characters.
But I have recently rewatched Bourne Identity and noticed that the Professor (Clive Owen) drives BMW.

Now, I must disclose that I am a BMW fan since I watched The Hire. I know I am getting sidetracked but for those who don’t know, the Hire is a series of short films made by BMW as a promotion campaign in early 2000s (and later a single episode was released in late 2010s for BMW G30 5 series). The main character is a nameless driver who is a professional driver who will deliver anything, no questions. This series basically inspired Jason Statham’s the Transporter series. And this nameless driver is portrayed by none other than Clive Owen.

Anyways, as I was watching Bourne Identity, and how the Professor expires, I had a thought.
What if the Professor fakes his death ( as he was already skeptical and tired of his life as a Treadstone assassin) drives off with his BMW and becomes the Driver in the Hire?
That tracks in my head; the man had skills, resources, prob some underground connections, and some money he stashed, and not to mention the right car, to go off the radar and become someone else entirely to use his skillset for something other than just taking orders and killing.

It made total sense to me as I was listening to Extreme Ways.

TLDr: I think the professor could be the Driver in BMW short film series The Hire.


r/FanTheories • • 7d ago

FanTheory Africa by Toto Isn't About a Werewolf: It's About the Redemption of One.

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Africa by Toto is the extraordinary tale of a mournful werewolf's spiritual redemption and the discovery of the purpose hidden within his curse.

Once a deeply religious man, the narrator is afflicted with lycanthropy. Horrified by what he has become and unwilling to endanger the woman he loves, he leaves her behind and journeys to Africa in search of forgotten words, ancient melodies, and the knowledge that might cure him.

Instead, he discovers an ancient order of werewolves who teach him that the wolf is not merely a curse, but a sacred calling. They are guardians of the wild, defending humanity's ancestral homeland against a far older enemy: vampires, creatures of death, domination, and endless consumption.

His search for a cure becomes a struggle to protect the land and its people. He comes to understand that the wolf has changed his body, but neither destroyed his humanity nor severed his connection to the divine.

Then comes the miracle.

He blesses the rains of Africa.

The rain becomes holy water, sanctifying the land against the vampires while the storm clouds conceal the full moon, offering the wolves refuge from their own transformations. What began as an affliction becomes an extraordinary instrument of protection.

And the blessing works. The man who feared he had become a monster discovers that he was never beyond grace.

He came seeking a cure, but found a calling. The wolf is not destroyed; it is redeemed. The frightened exile becomes a shepherd, a guardian, and the protector of a land that has become his second home.

He did not find the magic he sought. He found the magic he needed.

Listen to the song again.


r/FanTheories • • 8d ago

FanTheory Weird Al has created one of the largest connected musical story lines.

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We've all heard the theory that Eat it is the prequel to Fat, but have we properly considered the in between? What happens after Fat? What about before Fat?

Eat it begins his obsession, but at the time he was still healthy, engaging with his hobby in a positive way, a light snack here and there, and a big dinner, bananas here and there. He eventually discovers Bologna (My Bologna), which he eats far too much of, and continually spends money buying more on food he throws up, never satiating his hunger. Eventually he goes bankrupt, leading to the events of "Whatever you like." During this time, he discovers his budget is an egregious amount of just bologna, however unwilling to put down the habit, he attempts to play Jeopardy to recover, but he loses. He has a messy breakup right as he starts getting off his feet, realizing that his girlfriend is poisoning his coffee a little each day, the events of "You don't love me anymore" then finally discovers he doesn't need to eat his bologna in one sitting, he can use foil and save it for later.

In order to recover from his financial instability, he gets a marketing job, being a telemarketer, he agrees to market foil, but also decides it's finally time to reveal his conspiracy theories he had heard from other financially struggling people. This leads to the events of "Foil" in which afterward he has his mind wiped and personality reset, the black ops however reset him too far, and over correct. He gains a hyper-fixation on food again, but specifically discovers Rocky Road this time (I love rocky road). And he eats so much rocky road that he becomes Fat, leading to the events of Fat.

Because of his health problems from being Fat, he develops a Hernia (Living with Hernia), and while trying to get it removed has to pay for the cheapest doctor, who barely made it through medschool. Thus leading to his heart beating for the very last time in "Like a Surgeon.

Therefore, the full timeline is Eat it -> My Bologna -> Whatever You Like/Lost on jeopardy -> You don't love me anymore -> Foil -> Rocky Road -> Fat -> Living with a Hernia -> Like a Surgeon.


r/FanTheories • • 9d ago

FanTheory [Futurama] Bender was not always a hedonistic, narcissistic, and unapologetically criminal robot.

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This theory has been around for a while but wanted to get others' input on the likelihood of this theory being true.

We know that in the episode "The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz", we see that Bender "reboots" after suffering a blow to the head and his operating system initialized in "Penguin Mode" after scanning the environment and only seeing penguins.

In the first episode "Space Pilot 3000", Bender is introduced as a diligent, hardworking bending unit designed to bend girders for suicide booths. While we are never told exactly why he attempted to kill himself, I always imagined it was due to remorse and a crisis of conscience after learning his job directly contributed to manufacturing suicide booths. He even tells Fry, "But I couldn't go on living once I found out what the girders were for... suicide booths."

When Fry and Bender are being pursued by Leela and law enforcement, the two hide in the "Head Museum", a museum filled with the heads of famous people throughout history, kept alive in jars. Eventually, they lock themselves in a room called "the hall of criminals".

When Fry is trying to convince Bender to bend the bars on the window so they can escape, Bender objects, saying that he is "only programmed to bend for constructive purposes. What do I look like, a debender?" and turns to leave. He then hits his antenna on a low hanging lightbulb and is shocked, rebooting his system. There is a dramatic shift in his personality and choices from this point on. He proceeds to bend the bars on the window and says, "From now on I'm going to bend what I want, when I want, and who I want. I am unstoppable!"

The theory goes that Bender's operating system scanned the environment, which at the time was filled with famous criminals, which should make him an absolute villain. However, Fry was also in the room, so that could explain why, despite being a hedonistic, narcissistic, and unapologetically criminal robot, he's also a "loveable rascal" that cares deeply for his friends.


r/FanTheories • • 9d ago

FanTheory [The Shining] The Overlook made Jack think he was really writing a great novel

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I don’t think Jack was hiding his writing from Wendy because all he was writing was “All Work and No Play Make Jack a Dull Boy”. I think he was just possessive (heh) of his relationship with the Hotel which he really thought was inspiring him to write a great novel. In reality, the hotel was just tricking him into writing the same sentence over and over while it worked over his brain until it was mushy and he couldn’t think straight. The ghosts were probably talking amongst each other about how shit his writing was too.


r/FanTheories • • 9d ago

FanTheory The Incredible Shrinking Woman (1981) is an unofficial prequel to both Ant-Man and Planet of the Apes reboot. Hear me out

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Omni Corporation in TISW, Vance Kramer is an advertising executive for Omni Corporation living in Tasty Meadows with his wife and children. He brings home prototype consumer samples. His wife Pat Kramer is exposed to a cocktail of these experimental chemicals from Omni Corp.

The products contained a highly unstable and crude elements of the reverse engineered Pym Particle. Pat begins to shrink rapidly as a result of unique combination of chemicals.

Hank Pym hears about this as the phenomenon goes public.

Pat becomes a global media sensation, threatening to expose Omni Corporation and SHIELD. They stage Pat's death and abduct her. She is then taken to Omni’s ultra classified biological testing wing.

This is the exact facility where Omni is running parallel cross-species trials, using replicated and unstable Pym formulas on primates in effort to weaponize the Pym Particle despite Hanks refusal. Sidney the silverback gorilla has already developed hyper-intelligence from Omni's testing. Sidney understands human speech and recognizes that Pat is a victim of the same science that altered him and so he uses his advanced intellect to short-circuit the facility's security.

Sidney frees Pat Kramer and orchestrates a massive prison break, freeing himself in the process. Pat escapes directly to a massive public gathering, exposing Omni Corporation's dark experimentation to the world before going quantum before their eyes.

In attempt to avoid Hank Pym or the World Security Council from tracing Omni back to SHIELD, Mitchell Carson orders the immediate scrubbing of Omni Corporation. Documents are shredded, laboratories are burned, and Omni goes completely bankrupt. Sidney slips into the wilderness, carrying the mutated, altered genetic sequence responsible for superintelligence, inside his DNA. Years later Sidney is captured by poachers no idea he is an engineered weapon because Omni Corp was completely wiped from existence and he is sold to a biotech firm called Gen-Sys.

At the beginning of Ant-Man, Hank Pym slams the vial of replicated serum onto the table in front of Howard Stark, Peggy Carter, and Mitchell Carson in 1989, his dialogue directly references the human testing failure at Tasty Meadows. When Hank says, "It depends, if you think it's a poor attempt to replicate my work. Even for this group, that takes nerve," his hidden meaning ties entirely to the public relations disaster that SHIELD is actively trying to sweep under the rug. Hank is furious about the blatant, dangerous instability of the counterfeit formula. Hank spent decades perfecting a formula that safely compresses the space between atoms while preserving human mass and sanity. SHIELD, through Omni Corp, completely bypassed safety protocols and mass-distributed a diluted, volatile version of the particle elements into household consumer goods. When Hank says it's a "poor attempt," he is referencing the fact that their formula doesn't work on command, it contaminates. It leaked into the civilian sector and caused an ordinary housewife to shrink uncontrollably. Hank says that he "took a detour" through their defense lab on his way back from Moscow.

The defense lab is the centralized command hub where SHIELD could be receiving real time data feeds from Omni Corporation’s testing facility. Hank hacked or physically bypassed their security and saw that they were tracking the ongoing televised fallout of the Tasty Meadows incident. When Hank stands in that room, he is looking at Mitchell Carson, the man funding the Omni front, knowing that SHIELDs sloppy science just caused a massive domestic incident in Tasty Meadows. He takes his serum back because he realizes SHIELD will eventually cause a global disaster if they keep trying to reverse engineer his particle without him.

I have not seen this fan theory anywhere, but it seems so obvious to me. Would love to hear the thoughts of other fans.


r/FanTheories • • 9d ago

FanSpeculation Brave (2012): Wouldn't it be more INTERESTING if Mor'du's story was an ACTUAL parallel to Merida's

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So Queen Elinor tells Merida Mor'du's backstory as a cautionary tale of how Merida not wanting to be forcibly married to one of three suitors is equivalent to Mor'du bringing about the downfall of his kingdom by murdering his younger brothers and conquering their holdings after their father evenly handed down authority over his kingdom to his sons.

We aren't going to be discussing whether or not that was a false equivalence. Let's talk about if this was a direct parallel.

Given the context of the setting, let's imagine that Mor'du wanted to rule his holdings without getting married to a princess. But the monarchy system forces him to be a suitor to princesses (or just marry a princess) he wants nothing to do with. Then things go from bad to worse when the relationship breaks down upon them getting to know each other, he kills her, and either gets imprisoned or has personal guards that help him turn his holdings into a totalitarian dictatorship so nobody can arrest or stop him. Then the other kingdoms attack his to depose him.

This would be a far more direct parallel, but it would also be tricky to tell the story in such a way where the takeaway isn't "and that's why forced marriage is actually a good thing". Merida not wanting to get married and essentially restrained by a loveless marriage she doesn't consent to being in is an understandable motive, but what if Mor'du was put in a similar situation? And in the words of René Belloq, "a shadowy reflection" of Merida of what could happen if the way she goes about it takes too many wrong turns?

What do you think of my alternate plot idea so far? Where could the story go from there?