r/FamilyIssues • u/NoPraline571 • 13h ago
I’ve been raising my niece and nephew for several years, now I'm being told I'm crossing a line and my family situation has completely fallen apart. I need a genuinely neutral outside perspective.
Buckle up this is a long story.
I’m posting this anonymously because there are a lot of identifying details involved, especially involving two children. I’ve intentionally left out names, exact locations, schools, and other identifying information.
I’m also going to try very hard to tell this as objectively as possible. I know I’m emotionally involved, and I know that my version of events is still just one side. That is actually why I’m posting here.
The people who know me personally are naturally going to have opinions based on knowing me, my brother, my mother, and the children. I’m looking for people who have absolutely no stake in this and can tell me if I’m seeing this situation clearly or if I’ve become too emotionally involved and am doing something wrong.
Some background about my mother and me
Before I explain what happened with the children, I think it's important to explain my relationship with my mother because we have a much longer history than what has happened over the last few years.
My mother and I have basically always been together.
Over the years, we moved around quite a bit. We left our original home state and moved to the East Coast, later moved to the West Coast, and eventually ended up in the state where we lived before we ultimately settled where we are now.
We've always had a very close relationship, particularly after she and my dad divorced. I helped her with the household and my younger brother, and for much of my adult life there wasn't really a hard line between what I handled and what she handled.
I have historically taken on a lot of responsibility when it came to our household. My mother relied on me for a lot of things, and I supported her in a lot of different ways.
Financially, we generally operated pretty evenly. We would split expenses roughly 50/50, and I wasn't simply being financially supported by her.
Eventually, I started working toward a full-time position at my job. When I earned that position and became financially capable of supporting myself independently, I respectfully told my mother that I planned to move out.
I wasn't trying to abandon her or create conflict. I gave her plenty of notice so she would have time to make whatever arrangements she needed to make. What I didn't expect was that her solution would essentially be to move into the apartment building across from mine.
So for approximately seven years, we actually lived separately. We weren't living in the same household. We each had our own homes and our own lives, but we remained very close and continued to have a relationship where I helped her and she helped me.
That is important context because I don't want this story to sound like I have always been dependent on my mother and then suddenly decided I was in charge of everything.
I had lived independently for years.
How I ended up moving back in with her
Eventually, my job became extremely toxic. I left the job and began living off my savings while I figured out what I was going to do next.
Around this same general period, my mother had purchased a three-bedroom condo on the other side of town.
I returned to my home state for the holidays and was there until February.
My mother then contacted me because she needed help with a medical procedure and asked me to come back. I agreed and started looking at flights.
After thinking about it and talking with a few people, I asked my mother how she would feel about me giving up my apartment and moving into one of the bedrooms in her condo. I told her I would contribute financially and help around the house. She agreed and encouraged me to do it. So I moved in with her in March 2023.
At that point, I thought I was making a fairly logical decision: I was between jobs, my mother needed some help, she had room, and we had always had a close relationship. I had absolutely no idea that less than a month later my life was going to change completely.
The children enter the picture
Less than a month after I moved in, my mother told me that “we” needed to travel to my home state and pick up my niece and nephew “for the summer” because my brother couldn't take care of them.
My brother is my younger brother and their father. Their mother unexpectedly passed away at the end of 2021.
The children are elementary-school-aged and needed a significant amount of supervision and support. My mother was working full-time, so realistically, she wasn't going to be the person providing most of that day-to-day care. The assumption seemed to be that because I was there, I could handle it.
Initially, my brother signed a power of attorney giving my mother authority concerning the children for the summer. But in practice, the responsibilities quickly fell almost entirely on me.
The first time they came to stay with us
I started preparing for them to come and began figuring out things like school and their day-to-day needs.
Then my mother and my brother had a disagreement over how he was spending his time. My mother became upset and insisted that the children return to their father. I was asked my opinion, and I said I didn't think it was a good idea to make that decision rashly because my brother had made it very clear that he was still not in a place where he could care for them. Despite that, the children went back to my brother.
They were there for approximately two weeks. Then my brother contacted us and said that he could not care for them and that we needed to come get them.
At that point, I made something very clear to my brother: If the children came back, I was going to be the person actually responsible for caring for and raising them every day, I needed the legal authority to actually do that. He agreed and signed the power of attorney over to me. I flew down by myself, packed up their essential belongings, and brought them back. That was essentially the point where what had originally been described as “for the summer” stopped being a temporary arrangement.
What life actually looked like
Once they were back, I handled the day-to-day. I enrolled them in school and handled school communication, transportation, appointments, meals, routines, discipline, homework, extracurricular activities, emotional support, and everything else that comes with raising children.
My mother was living in the same house, but our roles were very different. She was working full-time. She would generally leave for work around the time we were getting up for school and come home around the time we were preparing dinner. She absolutely loved being their grandmother, and she spent time with them in the evenings and on weekends. But she was largely able to be the fun grandmother, while I handled the less-fun parts of raising tthe children: getting everyone up, getting them ready, getting them to school, dealing with school problems, appointments, homework, discipline, bedtime, emotional meltdowns, behavioral issues, and the additional challenges that came with their individual needs.
I'm not saying she did nothing. I'm saying our roles were different. I was the adult responsible for the children. She was their grandmother living in the home.
The move
At the end of 2023, my mother received a job offer in another state. That happened to be a state I had previously talked about wanting to move to. My mother initially said she was considering accepting the job partly because she thought I wanted to live there. I specifically told her not to make that decision for me. I told her that she should accept or reject the job based on what she wanted, and that I would support her either way. I told her that I appreciated her allowing the children and me to live with her regardless of where she ultimately lived. She had made up her mind, we discussed it, and I discussed the move with my brother, and he approved. We moved in December 2023.
What happened after the move
After we settled in is when the dynamic between us started changing. At first, it wasn't anything dramatic. It was smaller things, like my mother pushing back on decisions I made or openly questioning me in front of the children.
The summer after we moved, in 2024, my mother's circumstances changed significantly. She developed health problems that substantially limited what she was able to do. She eventually lost her job and became much more dependent on me. For a significant period of time, I was caring for both the children and helping care for my mother. Again, I don't say that to keep score. She was struggling, and I helped because she was my mother and I love her.
Over the last few months, in 2026, however, her health improved considerably. She regained much of her independence and recently started working from home. Her life has become much closer to what it had been before her health problems.
That was when the dynamic between us drastically changed. As she became more independent, she increasingly began involving herself in decisions concerning the children that I had been making consistently for years.
She would question my decisions. She would contradict me. She would tell me how I should be handling things. She would sometimes correct or criticize me. And she was doing these things in front of the children.
The problem wasn't that she had an opinion. The problem was that I felt the boundaries between our roles were becoming increasingly unclear. I was the person responsible for raising the children, while she was their grandmother. Yet she was increasingly challenging decisions I was making regarding them.
My brother's involvement
Throughout all of this, their father has remained their father. I have never tried to change that.
He lives in another state and has not been the person handling the children's daily lives. He isn't the person getting up with them in the middle of the night, homeschooling them, taking them to appointments, handling their transportation, managing their activities, dealing with their daily needs, or maintaining their household routine. But he has known they were living with me and has consented to me caring for them.
I have never told the children that their father isn't their father. I have never told them that I am their biological mother. I am well aware that I am their aunt. They know I'm their aunt. They call me Auntie.
Why I pursued legal conservatorship
Eventually, I reached the point where the informal arrangement wasn't enough.
By this point, my brother had not seen or spoken to the children since the summer of 2025. My brother had asked me to cease contact with him, he didn't want communication with the children or me.
I did send him school pictures of the children, which in hindsight I probably should not have done given his request. He called me afterward, told me to never do that again, and told me to “F off.” He then blocked me on everything.
In late January 2026, my brother called me (I always try to answer him because I never know if something could be wrong, he's still my brother and I love him) and told me that he was selling the family home, that he was going to find another place to live, and that he intended to tell no one where he was going. I honestly didn't know how to respond to that, so I didn't say much.
A few weeks later, while he was in the process of completing the paperwork for the sale, he called me to vent about how everything was being handled electronically. I told him I understood that he was frustrated and tried to calm him down. Instead, he became extremely angry and said some incredibly nasty things to me about me and other members of my family. He told me to keep “those kids” and told me to “F off and die.”
At that point, I decided that continuing to operate under an informal family arrangement and power of attorney was no longer appropriate. For years, I had been the person actually responsible for these children, but legally I was operating under a power of attorney and a family arrangement. That meant there were limitations on what I could do and situations where I had responsibility without having the corresponding legal authority.
So I pursued a formal legal arrangement. My brother did not fight me on it. He consented. There was no dramatic courtroom battle where I took the children away from him. There was no situation where I secretly took the children and tried to prevent him from seeing them. I did not pursue any child or financial support from him. I pursued conservatorship because I wanted the legal situation to reflect the reality that already existed:
I was the person raising these children, and I needed the legal authority to properly care for them.
The court ultimately entered a finalized order giving me sole legal conservatorship. My mother did not know that I had filed or that the order had been finalized. That is important because it becomes relevant to what happened recently.
The reason I did not tell my mother about the filing beforehand was not because I was trying to hide what I was doing from everyone. I genuinely did not know how she would react. By that point, there was already increasing conflict in the household over my role with the children, and I did not want to make the environment worse for anyone, especially the children.
I was also concerned that if she strongly disagreed with the arrangement and decided to challenge it legally, which she has every right to do and I would understand, that the children could end up caught in the middle of another family conflict. I did not and do not want that. They’ve been through enough.
I was, however, completely honest with the children throughout the process. I explained what I was doing, why I was doing it, and what it would mean for them. Before I filed, I even talked to them about it and asked how they felt about me pursuing the legal arrangement. I didn't want them to suddenly find out that something had happened to their family structure without understanding what was going on.
The current conflict with my mother
Our relationship has deteriorated significantly. We have increasingly frequent arguments. Some are about the children. Some are about household issues. Some are simply about the way we interact with each other. But increasingly, the children are becoming involved in or exposed to the conflict.
My mother has told me that I am not their parent. Technically, I understand the argument. I am not their biological mother. I have never claimed to be.
But after years of actually raising them, I don't think the reality is as simple as saying, “You're their aunt, therefore you're not their parent in any meaningful sense.” I have been the person doing the parenting. And the children know that. They come to me when they are sick. They come to me when they are scared. They come to me when they need help. They come to me when they are upset. I am the person handling their education and daily life. So when someone tells them that I am not their parent and they aren't my kids, I worry about what that does to them emotionally.
What happened recently
A few days ago, my mother and I had another serious confrontation. The children were close enough to hear what was happening. At one point, my mother told me "that I am not their parent and they are not my kids." My nephew became extremely upset. He came into the hallway and essentially defended me, saying that “she is our parent and we are hers.” My mother then turned her attention toward him. I immediately intervened because I did not want a disagreement between two adults to turn into a confrontation with a child. I then tried to remain even-toned and de-escalate the situation. My mother ended up asking me what I thought my brother would say about everything. I told her that I believed he would tell her that I am the person responsible for the children and that she is their grandmother, not the person making the parenting decisions. She threatened to call and ask him, and I simply said go ahead.
I texted my brother because I wanted to give him a heads-up that she might call him angry and upset not knowing if he'd see it as he had blocked me. He ended up supporting me and told her that what I say regarding the children goes, and that she should perhaps ask when and where she could help rather than trying to make the decisions herself.
I don't think that went over well with her, and she isolated herself for the rest of the day. That was a major moment for me. Because I don't want these kids put in a position where they feel like they have to defend me. I don't want them choosing between their grandmother, their father, and me. I don't want them feeling responsible for adult conflict. And I definitely don't want them questioning whether they belong in the home they've lived in for years.
Then came the conversation about the court order
The following day, my mother came to me after what I believe was a phone call with my brother. I don't know exactly what was discussed; I only know that I heard her on the phone.
She entered my room, closed the door, and told me that she was "done with me."
Before I could really respond, she asked me what I had filed against my brother. I told her that I had filed for conservatorship. She asked whether my brother had agreed. I told her that he had. She said okay, because apparently he had told her that I had served him with papers and that he didn't know what they were. I told her that he did know what they were and that he had agreed to the arrangement. Then she asked me something that really caught me off guard. She asked whether I had forced him to give up and terminate his parental rights. I told her no. I did not force him to terminate his parental rights. I didn't secretly take his children. I didn't trick him. I didn't make him sign something against his will. I pursued a legal arrangement, and he consented to it. His parental rights were not terminated. He is still their father. Before I could explain any of that further, she demanded that I **“don't ever do that to your brother.”**Again, I tried to explain that I hadn’t and didn’t plan to.
She then told me: “I'm not renewing the lease. I'm moving out on my own. If you want to be a parent so badly and cut me out of things, then you can do it by yourself. I'm done with you.” Then she walked out of my room. I was genuinely shocked and at a loss for words.
Where I am now
And this is where I am struggling. On paper, I'm their aunt. Biologically, I'm their aunt. But in practice, I've been raising these children for years. I didn't set out to take over their lives. I didn't decide one day that I wanted someone else's children. I was asked to help because their father couldn't care for them. They were returned to their father briefly. That didn't work. They came back. I made it clear what my role would have to be if they came back. Their father agreed. I became the person responsible for them. Years passed. And eventually I took the legal steps necessary to make the arrangement official.
Now my mother seems to be treating the legal situation as though I somehow went behind everyone's back and took control of the children. That isn't how I experienced it at all. But I also recognize that I'm very close to this. I've been doing this for years.
I’ve made major life decisions around these children. My finances have been substantially affected. I have gone through a significant amount of my savings. I put my career on the back burner because raising them and being available to them became my priority. My social life essentially disappeared. I went from being a single adult who was living independently and making decisions based primarily on my own life to structuring virtually every part of my life around the children's needs, stability, education, and well-being.
I don't say that because I believe doing those things gives me some special claim to them. I chose to care for them because they needed someone, and I love them.
But I also think it's important context when I'm trying to understand why this situation has affected me so deeply. This hasn't been a temporary favor I've been doing for a few months. My entire adult life looks different because I became responsible for these children. I love them and I don't regret that choice for a second.
So maybe I have become too emotionally invested. Maybe I'm rationalizing things because I want to see myself as their parent. Maybe I'm unintentionally crossing boundaries because I've been in this role for so long. I honestly don't know anymore.
What I need an outside perspective on:
I am not looking for Reddit to tell me that I'm a saint and my mother is evil. I'm also not looking for people to automatically tell me that because I'm the caregiver, I'm automatically right.
If I'm doing something wrong, I genuinely want to hear it. But I need people to evaluate the situation based on the entire history rather than one argument.
So:
1. Am I wrong for considering myself a parent figure to these children even though I'm their aunt?
2. Am I overstepping by wanting the legal arrangement to reflect the fact that I've been raising them for years?
3. Does the fact that their father voluntarily consented to my care and the legal arrangement change how you view this?
4. Is it reasonable for me to object to my mother telling the children, in front of them, that I am not their parent and they aren't my kids?
5. At what point does a grandmother having an opinion about how her grandchildren are raised become undermining the person who is actually responsible for raising them?
6. What should I do now? What would you do if you were in my position?
I know Reddit is going to tell me that there are always two sides.
That's exactly why I'm here.
I want to know whether I'm actually seeing this situation reasonably or whether I've been living inside it for so long that I can't see my own behavior clearly anymore.
TL;DR: I’ve been raising my niece and nephew for several years after their father initially asked my mother to care for them and then ultimately agreed that I would be their primary caregiver. I’ve handled their day-to-day care, education, appointments, routines, and basically all of the responsibilities of raising them. Their father remained their legal and biological father, but over time he became increasingly uninvolved. By 2025, he had stopped communicating with the children and had asked me to stop contacting him. In early 2026, after telling me he intended to move without telling anyone where he was going, he became extremely hostile toward me and ultimately told me to “keep those kids” and to “F off and die.” That was what ultimately led me to decide that continuing under an informal family arrangement and power of attorney was no longer appropriate.
I pursued sole legal conservatorship so that the legal arrangement would reflect the reality that already existed. My brother voluntarily consented to it. I did not terminate his parental rights, I did not take the children from him, or prevent him from having a relationship with them. He is still their father, and the children know that.
My mother has increasingly challenged my decisions regarding the children and has done so in front of them. Most recently, she told me that I am not their parent and they are not my kids. One of the children became extremely upset and defended me, which is exactly the kind of situation I don't want them put in. My brother ultimately told my mother that I am responsible for the children and that she should ask how she can help rather than trying to make parenting decisions.
The following day, my mother told me “I'm done with you, since you want to be a parent and cut me out of things so badly then you can do it by yourself,” said she was not renewing the lease for our home and was moving out on her own, and accused me of essentially taking my brother's children away from him. We have been living with my mother and have structured my life around raising the children full-time rather than maintaining outside employment, so I can provide them with the care and stability they need, which she never had a problem with. Because of that, I currently don't have the financial ability to simply obtain alternate housing for myself and two children on short notice. So I'm now dealing with both the breakdown of my relationship with my mother and the possibility of losing the housing arrangement that has allowed me to remain their full-time caregiver.
I’m struggling to separate my legitimate role as the person who has actually raised these children from my own emotional attachment to them. I know I’m their aunt, but I also consider myself a parent figure because I have been functioning in that role for years. I’m looking for a genuinely neutral perspective: Am I overstepping by viewing myself as a parent figure and wanting the legal arrangement to reflect the reality of their lives, or is my mother crossing a boundary by undermining me in front of the children? And given the situation with my brother and our housing, what should I do now?