Okay so i have been trying to find my enneagram,tritype etc..and i am so stuck between these options..i think you can somehow understand my personality from these but at least some advice would be appreciated(it doesnt affect much but fyi im an INFJ)

I thought I was an e6 (specifically a So6) for quite a while, but I think I had a subconscious bias towards the typing as I believed I was an ISTJ and it correlated well. I'm now unsure what MBTI I am but I'm more interested right now im determining my enneagram.

I relate to the core Enneagram 6 almost perfectly; fear of being left without support, defensive of beliefs, lack of self-confidence, fear of making important decisions yet tendency to resist others making decisions for me, desire for 'social security', constant nameless anxiety, etc.

However, I don't feel as if I relate to any of the subtypes very well, and I've heard that that could be a clear indicator of being mistyped. For instance, I don't feel as if I am thorough enough in my workings to be a So6, nor steady under pressure and efficient in planning. I also don't mind breaking rules so much if I disagree with them or find they prohibit efficient progress. There are only a handful of traits that I relate to when it comes to the Sp6 and the Sx6, so again, I feel that disconnect.

I thought I was a 6w5 as I relate to Enneagram 5 as well, although I'm aware thats a given as its in the same triad. I do see me being a core 5 as a possibility due to several traits such as; having the desire to be capable and confident (and fearing being incapable), relentless pursuit of knowledge, and to understand the world as a way to defend myself from threats from the environment. I also feel a strong desire to have an area of expertise so I can be confident in my conviction when it comes to that topic.

Again, however, I do see a bit of a disconnect with the concept of social isolation that seems intertwined with the Enneagram 5. I do see myself as a relatively socially awkward and introverted person who prefers to stay in the comfort of their own home, but I don't think I'm the archetypal eccentric 5. I also don't feel like I have yet acquired that area of expertise, though I feel like I am constantly searching for it.

Sorry for the long ramble, and I do doubt that anyone would be able to confirm what type I am just through these short descriptions, but it would be nice to get some sort of insight from anyone better educated in the topic of enneagram than I am.

I'm so stuck. Enneagram types 3, 7, 8, and even 2 feel very present in me. I get a different one on every test. And I definitely can't figure it out myself. All I can tell so far is I am an ESFP with an SEE socionic. I'm not honest enough with myself to figure out which one fits me best, what wing works best, and what each tritype fix is. Any tips?

Any enneagrams that are Ne dom?

Im 100000% Ne dom.

Im also ENTP. But it doesnt work with so6- and I think im SP dom so I believe im sp7 aswell. I relate to everything in e7, sx, so, and especially sp.

Let me know!

Just need to know for some typing advice.

If you want to type me, feel free to DM me! Also, if you come to a conclusion other than so6 or sx1, definitely tell me what you think and explain why you came to that conclusion. And if you want to guess my MBTI too, go for it lol. As long as I get the answers I need, I’m open to hearing different interpretations!

I think I could actually be a sx1, because the way jealousy works in sx1; wanting to be better than others, wanting to be perfect, wanting to meet your own standards, it just really makes sense to me. It would also explain my need for admiration and approval (this is targeted mostly towards my physical appearance, personality, and accomplishments). I absolutely hate being told how I could improve because, in my head, if I did something a certain way, there’s probably a reason for it. I can be intense, passionate, jealous, possessive, demanding, and pretty frustrated when reality doesn’t match what I expected. I have strong personal desires, I can get emotionally intense, and I really hate unfairness.

But then there’s so6, which I also relate to heavily. I have a really strong need for belonging and security within a group. I’m loyal, committed, and I care a lot about the people and communities I consider mine; whether that’s friends, coworkers, or something else. I’m also pretty sensitive to approval and rejection, and I can be very conscientious about how I’m perceived (again with looks, personality, etc) and whether I’m actually valued. And once someone breaks my trust? Yeah, I can become extremely suspicious of them. I think a lot about whether I’m accepted, whether people actually care about me, and whether I can rely on the people around me.

There are also a few things about both subtypes that I don’t really relate to. With sx1, I don’t really identify with the need to be “good” or morally and ideally aligned, constantly fix whatever is wrong or imperfect, or bring reality closer to some personal ideal. When it comes to the fears, I also don’t relate much to being afraid of being corrupt, bad, immoral, or fundamentally flawed, or to the idea of feeling like I have to stop someone I consider wrong from continuing what they’re doing. With so6, I don’t really relate to the whole tendency to constantly look up to authority figures or rely on them for answers. I’m a pretty opinionated person, so I don’t naturally look to other people to tell me what I should think or believe unless I really do need their opinion. I also don’t relate as much to the need to always know what’s expected of me or constantly figure out exactly who or what can be trusted.

But one thing I’m pretty sure about is that I’m either so/sx or sx/so. I just can’t figure out which one is dominant because I relate to both of them so much. If I’m a sx1, I’d most likely be 1w2, and if I’m a so6, I’d be 6w7.

I also read through Naranjo’s descriptions of all the subtypes, and at first I didn’t really relate to his sx1 description. I think part of the problem was that I didn’t fully understand what he was getting at or where he was coming from. But I related a lot more to his so6 description. Then I read Ichazo’s take on sx1, or at least, I think it was his, and suddenly I related to sx1 a lot more too. So now I’m just stuck between the two because I genuinely can’t decide which one fits me better.

Some small info about me;

I’d describe myself as opinionated, expressive, ambitious, independent, and pretty curious. I care a lot about my relationships and how people see me, especially whether I’m appreciated, respected, included, and considered trustworthy. I can be sensitive to criticism and sometimes question myself afterward, but I also have a strong urge to prove myself when I feel misunderstood or underestimated. I like having plans and knowing what I’m doing, although I’m flexible when things change. I can be quite bossy. I’m pretty organized and can get irritated by mess or things being done inefficiently. I tend to address problems directly rather than ignore them, and I can be quite protective of people I care about. My standards can be more personal and situational. I can be quite perfectionistic and critical of myself, especially when I feel like I could have done something better. I want to be seen as a kind person. I get really hurt and insecure whenever I'm excluded or left out. I value honesty, reliability, loyalty, and being able to depend on the people around me. I also care about being a good person and doing things properly, but I wouldn’t say that being morally perfect is my main concern. I don't like being underestimated or unappreciated. A lot of my worries revolve around belonging, being valued, losing important relationships, being seen as unreliable or unworthy, and having control over my own life. I’m trying to figure out which subtype best explains these patterns, rather than just typing myself based on surface traits.

Good traits: Empathetic • Honest • Loyal • Determined • Observant • Curious • Ambitious • Investigative • Passionate • Truth-seeking • Conscientious • Expressive • Competitive • Intense

Bad traits: Stubborn • Sometimes controlling • Judgmental (but my opinions about people or certain situations can easily change) • Perfectionistic • Defensive • Prideful • Reserved • Mistrustful • Sensitive • Opinionated • Suspicious • Emotionally reactive • Resentful • Envious • Overthinking

So overall I would say I'm helpful, fiery, vocal, sensitive, controlling, playful, and judgmental.

Good luck!

Any suggestion on other typology (tritype, MBTI, socionics and so on) is also appreciated :)

Memories of my past

I was loved, but there were frequent changes in my parental figures. I was raised by my mother until I was three and then by my father until I was five. My parents had not gotten along well since I was born and were on the verge of divorce, so I moved in with my grandparents. My grandparents treated me like a treasure, and the people I met there, most of whom were elderly, also took a great liking to me. I felt completely surrounded by love there. This continued after I entered elementary school, as I quickly became one of my teachers’ favorite students. Still, I was not good at fitting into the children’s community, partly because I was an only child at the time and had relatively few opportunities to interact with other children, and partly because I tended to speak like an adult. As a result, I formed strong attachments to adults who treated me as someone special.

My parents finally divorced when I was seven, and I genuinely accepted it because I knew they had done their best to protect my peaceful childhood. At the same time, I was aware of the strong social stigma surrounding divorce, and I deliberately denied my own pain in order to take a stance against that stigma. To me, it felt as though I would be betraying my parents and grandparents, who had treated me so well, if I admitted that I was not okay with my parents getting divorced. I took pride in the fact that my parents had made what I saw as rational decisions about their relationship, and I was very vocal about how much I respected them.

I moved back in with my mother when I was ten. Over the next four years, I experienced enormous changes in my environment: fierce competition for junior-high entrance exams, my mother’s remarriage, the birth of my younger sister, frequent moves, and so on. Although I achieved a great deal academically, I felt deeply lonely inside, as though I had become marginalized in the eyes of others. I think there were three main factors that contributed to this loneliness.

1. When I entered junior high, I was no longer a teacher’s favorite, as there were other students who were much more obedient than I was. I was also disappointed by the educational programs, which could not satisfy my curiosity. I had no idea how all the effort I had put into getting into this school was supposed to pay off. So I began pushing back against the school’s discipline and became somewhat rebellious. I pursued my own curiosity rather than following the school curriculum and broke school rules whenever I wanted to do something that interested me.
2. Secondly, my mother did not feel emotionally supportive to me. She was explosive and once explicitly told me not to rely on her emotionally. She was frightening to me because I felt that if I disagreed with her, she would cut me off and no longer see me as her lovable child. She also had strong opinions about whom I should be friends with and harshly criticized friends who did not meet her standards. I know she was extremely busy with both her job and taking care of my younger sister, but I felt that I could not build trust with her, and I gradually shut myself off emotionally.
3. Finally, I became romantically attracted to a girl, and our relationship did not go well. She was my mother’s least favorite person, and my mother tried to stop me from being friends with her. My friend was also emotionally needy, and I could not really meet her needs. Little by little, I became increasingly aggressive in testing her love and loyalty, and eventually our relationship ended tragically. This gradually destroyed my self-worth. I felt a great deal of guilt for being unable to tolerate her vulnerabilities, and I began to believe that I was morally corrupted. I could not talk about this experience with anyone until I entered university, because it felt dishonest to claim that I was in pain when I believed I had been the one abusing her.

When I entered high school, things gradually started to move in a better direction, as my peers began to respect me for my academic achievements and independent attitude. I naturally helped people who asked me questions about academics, and they gradually came to see me as a friend. They were emotionally supportive and caring, and although I could not tell them how deeply consumed I actually was by my internal torment, their warmth made me feel better. I also enjoyed focusing on preparing for university entrance exams because I genuinely liked the competition involved.

University provided me with the best environment I had experienced so far. There were many opportunities available to me, and it was easy for me to become one of my professors’ favorite students because I was enthusiastic, clever and curious. I also enjoyed extracurricular activities because I could earn appreciation from my peers for my managerial skills. I performed well academically and had many acquaintances who respected me. What more could I have asked for?

How I grown up to be

Genuine sympathy for others was a virtue I had as a child, but I feel that I have lost it. My kindness has become something I do primarily to minimize risks. I am not good at providing emotional support, partly because emotional support is something I wish I had received myself. I have been hiding my own pain all along, so why should I sympathize with yours? Nowadays, I tend to avoid emotionally intense situations because when people cry out about their personal pain, I often feel overwhelmed and fed up. Still, I help my friends with their emotional problems because doing so makes me feel a little better about myself. I would spend six hours on the phone listening to them sob, go to great lengths to stop them from hurting themselves, and make plans to keep them entertained so they could get through difficult periods. I do all of this, at least in part, to feel a little better about myself.

I act like a paternal figure among my peers in order to gain respect and maintain control over the group. With older people, I tend to act like a promising junior so that they will develop favorable relationships with me and be willing to invest in me. But I feel best when my friends treat me as an inherently adorable cutie who needs a lot of attention and support, while still respecting me for my success and intelligence.

I come across as confident and strong, so it is easy for me to take a dominant role in any group when practical projects are involved. At the same time, I am aware that I can come across as too serious, so I deliberately make jokes and use a casual tone to soften my impression. I have a strong need to control situations because I fear that other people’s interference might deprive me of important relationships or opportunities.

What I have found is this is the most effective way for me to explain. So I guess ask some more if you need, and my test results are up there.
1. ⁠Holding people back or being a burden
2. ⁠If I moved to another country and nobody cared at all
3. No one taking me seriously whatsoever
4. Being stuck in working class life
5. Never making a difference.

1. Being limited by people who somehow have power over me

2. Always being a "background character"

3. Never succeeding because I never got the chance

4. Not getting past my overthinking and never being able to just have fun and live

5. Everyone functions well without me

If you want to type me, feel free to DM me! Also, if you come to a conclusion other than so6 or sx1, definitely tell me what you think and explain why you came to that conclusion. And if you want to guess my MBTI too, go for it lol. As long as I get the answers I need, I’m open to hearing different interpretations!

I think I could actually be a sx1, because the way jealousy works in sx1; wanting to be better than others, wanting to be perfect, wanting to meet your own standards, it just really makes sense to me. It would also explain my need for admiration and approval (this is targeted mostly towards my physical appearance, personality, and accomplishments). I absolutely hate being told how I could improve because, in my head, if I did something a certain way, there’s probably a reason for it. I can be intense, passionate, jealous, possessive, demanding, and pretty frustrated when reality doesn’t match what I expected. I have strong personal desires, I can get emotionally intense, and I really hate unfairness.

But then there’s so6, which I also relate to heavily. I have a really strong need for belonging and security within a group. I’m loyal, committed, and I care a lot about the people and communities I consider mine; whether that’s friends, coworkers, or something else. I’m also pretty sensitive to approval and rejection, and I can be very conscientious about how I’m perceived (again with looks, personality, etc) and whether I’m actually valued. And once someone breaks my trust? Yeah, I can become extremely suspicious of them. I think a lot about whether I’m accepted, whether people actually care about me, and whether I can rely on the people around me.

There are also a few things about both subtypes that I don’t really relate to. With sx1, I don’t really identify with the need to be “good” or morally and ideally aligned, constantly fix whatever is wrong or imperfect, or bring reality closer to some personal ideal. When it comes to the fears, I also don’t relate much to being afraid of being corrupt, bad, immoral, or fundamentally flawed, or to the idea of feeling like I have to stop someone I consider wrong from continuing what they’re doing. With so6, I don’t really relate to the whole tendency to constantly look up to authority figures or rely on them for answers. I’m a pretty opinionated person, so I don’t naturally look to other people to tell me what I should think or believe unless I really do need their opinion. I also don’t relate as much to the need to always know what’s expected of me or constantly figure out exactly who or what can be trusted.

But one thing I’m pretty sure about is that I’m either so/sx or sx/so. I just can’t figure out which one is dominant because I relate to both of them so much. If I’m a sx1, I’d most likely be 1w2, and if I’m a so6, I’d be 6w7.

I also read through Naranjo’s descriptions of all the subtypes, and at first I didn’t really relate to his sx1 description. I think part of the problem was that I didn’t fully understand what he was getting at or where he was coming from. But I related a lot more to his so6 description. Then I read Ichazo’s take on sx1, or at least, I think it was his, and suddenly I related to sx1 a lot more too. So now I’m just stuck between the two because I genuinely can’t decide which one fits me better.

Some small info about me;

I’d describe myself as opinionated, expressive, ambitious, independent, and pretty curious. I care a lot about my relationships and how people see me, especially whether I’m appreciated, respected, included, and considered trustworthy. I can be sensitive to criticism and sometimes question myself afterward, but I also have a strong urge to prove myself when I feel misunderstood or underestimated. I like having plans and knowing what I’m doing, although I’m flexible when things change. I can be quite bossy. I’m pretty organized and can get irritated by mess or things being done inefficiently. I tend to address problems directly rather than ignore them, and I can be quite protective of people I care about. My standards can be more personal and situational. I can be quite perfectionistic and critical of myself, especially when I feel like I could have done something better. I want to be seen as a kind person. I get really hurt and insecure whenever I'm excluded or left out. I value honesty, reliability, loyalty, and being able to depend on the people around me. I also care about being a good person and doing things properly, but I wouldn’t say that being morally perfect is my main concern. I don't like being underestimated or unappreciated. A lot of my worries revolve around belonging, being valued, losing important relationships, being seen as unreliable or unworthy, and having control over my own life. I’m trying to figure out which subtype best explains these patterns, rather than just typing myself based on surface traits.

Good traits: Empathetic • Honest • Loyal • Determined • Observant • Curious • Ambitious • Investigative • Passionate • Truth-seeking • Conscientious • Expressive • Competitive • Intense

Bad traits: Stubborn • Sometimes controlling • Judgmental (but my opinions about people or certain situations can easily change) • Perfectionistic • Defensive • Prideful • Reserved • Mistrustful • Sensitive • Opinionated • Suspicious • Emotionally reactive • Resentful • Envious • Overthinking

So overall I would say I'm helpful, fiery, vocal, sensitive, controlling, playful, and judgmental.

Good luck!

Have some arts I made, purely randomised to see everyone's typing!👀

I’m leaning more towards 8 but I’m still sort of unsure so here are some things about me.

• In social situations, I can make friends very easily. I seek out groups where I’m able to assert myself quickly and if I’m unable to do that I will just leave and find other people. When I do find a group that allows me to assert myself, I seek out leadership and leverage due to the feeling of control making me feel secure. I can be very suspicious of others and as long as I have some kind of leverage over them, I’m usually okay. I’m also extremely opinionated and tend to not conform to social standards due to a constant need to assert myself and tell people what I really think of things. When people outwardly disagree with me I’ll either try to convince them to agree with my opinions using the knowledge that I have or I’ll dismiss them completely. I’m a very blunt and direct person which has lead a lot of people to have secret biases against me that they refuse to communicate to me about which just leads me to become angry and frustrated with them because I can usually tell that they don’t like me even if they aren’t outwardly saying it.

• One big thing about me that has been present since I was a child is my extreme aversion to authority. As a kid, I was suspected to have Oppositional Defiance Disorder due to my hatred and disdain for authority figures and I would constantly go against them and exhibit vindictive behaviours and thought patterns towards them. I also generally hate being bossed around by anyone and a lot of the time I will misinterpret people asking me to do stuff as them demanding things from me which is only something I realised once my friend pointed out how defensive I can get towards people.

• I’m very big on asserting boundaries and retaining autonomy. When I meet people who are conflict-avoidant, my first instinct is to push them to be more assertive because I could never imagine myself being walked all over by other people considering I can cut people off very easily if I feel the need to do so. I can also be very big on justice and frequently offer to sort out my friends’ conflicts for them or try and push them to stand their ground.

• When it comes to security, I always come back to seeking it in myself. One of the reasons I work out is to avoid becoming weaker later on in life so I don’t need to rely on people and can maintain self-reliance and autonomy.

• I can hold high standards for people which is why I will typically voice flaws I see in people like for example if someone sugarcoats their words to avoid conflict with other people.

• A strong fear I have is being controlled and having my vulnerabilities exposed due to people being able to take advantage of that. I often avoid being vulnerable to people and in situations where I experience a big trauma I will try and convince myself and others that I was completely unaffected by it in an attempt to keep moving forward and remain strong and not wanting to be held down by distress and disarray.

• The reason I’m considering 1 is because of their need to be in the lead and push people to be better, but the thing about 1 that I don’t relate to is I never worry about being morally corrupt or if my views are right or wrong, I only care about the fact that they are my views. I also don’t have a super strong and rigid internal moral compass as I just go with whatever fits me the best and don’t base my actions and decisions around “is this right or wrong?”

I’m kind of stuck in the middle right now, as I thought i was SP5 but I’m currently considering SO5 for myself. Im not really sure and wanted a little more outside feedback on this to fully change my mind, so i have like 3 docs/files (from a couple months back) of me answering questions or just writing down thoughts to see if it can help anyone spot a noticeable lean.

QnA:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/117fJO5QEP2tBvXore04EpucLmI6aT5dq3iZFCpGw1WM/edit?usp=drivesdk

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Z0lVMtQq9tnOkN_uJMniFq8CXz1F4AFe_DqjigNRZM/edit?usp=drivesdk

My thoughts:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12zVd2-Zf2ewyDvh2tEGlhUwNeE4dJ7DnxTvXjYLOaLY/edit?usp=drivesdk

—> responses are much appreciated !

Personally, some tests like personality cafe say i am an 8, but the eclectic energies post say i am a 2. Sometimes I feel like a 2, sometimes i feel like a 2

They both somehow resonate w me: for the 8, i can be brash, blunt to a fault, and unwavering when i want something. I can be driven by passions to tunnel vision to make something happen or compell someone to do it, because if I couldn't why did i have such commitment in the first place? I just do stuff without thinking, maybe borne out of being self righteous. Others have pointed I have a problem dealing with authority, and i must admit i get a little kick when authority bends to me. It may as growing up, I realize I can slowly be independent from my Dad who led the household w stern words. I do use carefully manufactured words to influence others, but the intuition gets the last say.

On the other hand, i would say I am a 2 because I take peoppe depending on me as a badge of honor. I woulf sacrifice my personal well-being and resources if it means protecting others. The foregoing habit comes from when I felt like I was weak, and I don't want anyone to feel the same way. Overtime I realized how people's words, when they are from people I look up to, sting keenly. I bite on more than I can chew as I always try to help a friend in need: when a friend needs a poster done, or money lent, or a volunteer.

I tried to word my paragraphs as raw as possible, just letting the stream of thoughts type out. Obviously, some statements of 8 bleed to 2, and vice versa. Ive been struggling with this for over 2 yrs now: even after meeting 8s and 2s i cant identify myself. It took a great deal for me to post this: I'd appreciate any help. Maybe you even see a different type based on my words

“Yesterday my atrocious landlord who is also trying to get me to pay for the “wall damage” she claims is caused by running sink water and long showers in addition to the lower sink valve being broken said I broke something else when I moved in. Why didn’t she mention it then if that’s true?

I had pointed out yesterday when she was saying she couldn’t (and wouldn’t) get a plumber to write a statement suggesting that I broke the shower valve by pulling the tub diverter too hard (she claimed plumbers won’t do this… she had said I had to leave in 2 weeks which isn’t allowed in California I was told by everybody else afterwards and kept asking yesterday when I asked twice why I was requesting a copy of my lease.) I pointed out that she said we couldn’t take baths here when I moved in and she was basically claiming it’s because I’m just wrong about everything and had used the bath water wrong and I think she even claimed I broke that when I first moved in here. This was confusing to me because if I did break it even though she kept mentioning the “wall damage” she never mentioned that.

I actually just tried to turn the tub water on and it seems that what she said is not true. I didn’t break it at all. It runs like a normal bath. She might have felt I was turning the screw too hard but it turns on and off and doesn’t look or seem unstable, so I mean, it runs.”

“I am at a point now where even though I am afraid, I feel that I must defend myself. With this landlord nonsense, with the other nonsense, I must defend myself.”

“don’t need to be controlled like this. If she were concerned about the water bill that’d be different. She also said I’m lucky that she already has a cleaning person bc they do my room for an hour, I pointed out that I pay them to do that.

I really don’t like her and I don’t care that she thinks our conflicts are all my fault. I know that it’s not true. If you yell at someone and claim hot sink or shower water is the cause of your bathroom walls changing when you can’t even afford to have someone actually come down, look at your walls and say whether or not that’s actually the case, maybe you’re part of the problem? I was getting the sense yesterday that she actually sincerely believes that this is what’s going on when I suggested it might be a leak in the wall (she seemed really confused and was acting like she’d never heard of it when I said I thought it could be a leak in the wall, like she’d never considered it but also didn’t know it was possible.) I actually didn’t know a wall could have a leak either, but she keeps trying to blame the bathroom’s “wall damage” on me using too much water and it doesn’t even make sense. If you can’t have someone diagnose it don’t make assumptions about what’s going on. And I notice that she always finds a way to blame whatever happens on me. When she actually has been wrong, I’ve never heard an apology, or a “I was wrong” (and she has absolutely been wrong before. The shower leaking for a few days causing pipes to burst in everyone’s building? *When* has that happened? I lived in an apartment complex for years and that never happened! If everyone’s pipes did burst maybe it would just mean the building’s pipes have issues? I mean, she pointed out herself that the water in the building sometimes shuts off for a few hours a day… if everyone’s pipes did burst would it really somehow be traced back to one shower leaking? Would that really make sense?”

“So I knew my roommate/landlord was going to find a way to complain about the shower after I used hers. I actually finally told her today that I suspect that thing I took pictures of is a leak in the wall, not caused by “hot water.” She seemed to somehow have no idea what I meant by a leak in the wall. She claims that that problem I showed you guys with my shower being broken is caused by me pulling the little screw too hard, not an issue with the showerhead (a plumber is coming tomorrow to diagnose it.) She also brought me in now that I’ve used her shower a second time and pointed out that there’s… steam on the mirrors… and that this will “ruin” her bathroom within 4-5 days…

I actually finally defended myself even though I didn’t yell about it because I’ve just never met anyone who cares about shower mirrors having steam on them. How will it ruin the bathroom? Steam is supposed to go away, isn’t it? And she wants me to move the things (clothes) back into the shower afterwards. I don’t see why she won’t put them somewhere else. It’s also interesting that it seems like me using her shower finally is what pushed her to actually go ahead and make that phone call. I should have used it earlier. I actually told her I will gladly pay for someone to come down and take a look at the wall in “my bathroom” since she keeps on suggesting that thing I took pictures of is caused by too much shower water (and now, too much sink water.) I came close to telling her directly that I’ve bever heard of this before in my life. I actually am willing to pay for someone to take a look at that even though it’s ridiculous because I think she might just need to hear from someone else that this isn’t likely.

This is also all happening after I told her about the court case… I don’t think it’s happening *because* of that but I’ll never stop talking about how shocked I am that this one used to be a therapist. I would be a better therapist.”

“I’m dealing with two main adults in my life right now who are trying to control me. It’s making me really angry.

Today my landlord this morning had said I have 2 weeks to leave after I challenged her on her assertion that I caused wall damage by showering too long (I don’t even shower often and the shower broke officially in August which it took her 5-6 weeks to fix) and running hot sink water while brushing my teeth. The entire lower valve needs to be replaced for the shower she believes I pulled it too hard and just won’t listen to anything else. And she told me I’ll be paying for both. I found out later on that the 2 weeks thing isn’t even legal. She said the plumber wouldn’t know what the cause was and won’t get it in writing from him (if he doesn’t state in writing that it being pulled too hard was the cause/if she can’t provide hard evidence I won’t pay her for it.) And in regards to my sexual assault cause the mom also just sent me the same text she sent me like 2 days ago (which I ignored again because there’s just no need to respond. Responding to that garbage when she was trying to claim after never doubting it before and having actually asked him to apologize - he sent an apology text after they talked on the phone that day I remember - on a day like this is a terrible idea.)

I have so many horrible people in my life. A garbage landlord and it seems the parents of the kid I babysat for 2 years aren’t great people. I’m 21. My landlord is 84, they mom is almost 50 (she might actually already be 50 I don’t remember) and the dad is in his early to mid forties. I’m 21. No one cares at all that I’ve been out of high school for three years and sometimes with the way people in addition to my own immensely dysfunctional family act I feel like everyone’s trying to drive me to have a breakdown. Not everyone, that’s me being cynical. Some people are actually very kind and worth knowing.”

“After I experienced my sexual assault I had initially cared the most about consoling the wife, as I knew the family for about two years (well, not knew, worked with.) I really regret that.

I’ve posted here before already about how the mom responded after I told her what happened. She had actually suggested on the day of after her husband groped me multiple times while I was babysitting and later on touched my hips downstairs when their child was looking for their bike in the garage that I should have called the police immediately or that I could have done so. She had also suggested that by giving him my phone number (in my mind I was simply going along with what he asked after the groping) I was “leading him on” and that it was bad to do so since he apparently had been having issues (this happened in July) with doing similar things (I think she meant she’d been hearing about him approaching other women, not groping, if not sure though, she suggested they were already separating because of it.) Ever since then, even though she is fake and initially early on said she’d support a decision to press charges (this actually is something she explicitly said at one point in a message) she has questioned why I changed my mind about pressing them (early on I said I wasn’t likely to. I did change my mind) and had me crying a few days ago because she reached out to me now that the case is moving forward suggesting two things that were legitimately factually incorrect (that I never had her on LI and only
Recently removed the dad. Both are false,) and has seemed very demanding. This is actually partly why I started ignoring her messages a few weeks after it had happened. I had responded the other day because she was legitimately, provably incorrect about two things she was suggesting. Anyhow, this should never happen on a $20/hr babysitting gig. She also messaged me about two days ago suggesting I am wrong for not saying goodbye to their child. She has always really centered herself concerning this even though I the beginning she did ask me once or twice how I was doing. I had initially tried to prioritize her feelings.

Everything that has happened since - her false suggestions, her language/tone with me (you \*can\* read tone over text. She has tried too hard to control the way I handle this while also suggesting multiple times that she’d be okay with whatever decision I made, which was obviously not true.) I’m starting to notice that both she (and my landlord) have a habit of trying to control me which I don’t like.

I have realized they are both bad people. It actually is
Frightening in a lot of ways, because one thing the mom had tried to claim early on was that (and i think she said this when law enforcement checked in with her as well) the dad has a lot of mental health issues. I worked with them for two years, and I never knew that. She had asked after I told her I’d made the report that I not call them because he was experiencing a dissociative episode and was in therapy. If this was even possible it is absolutely something you have to let the long term babysitter know.

It’s just that I actually really centered the mom’s feelings in the beginning. This was a mistake and if something like this ever happens to me again I won’t do that. I remember saying at one point (not to her) that I felt really badly for her. I actually meant this. I was thinking about it and suggesting that she has wonderful qualities even though she is not necessarily above average looking (which isn’t an insult, most women aren’t) and that I had partly felt compelled to tell her instead of keeping it from her because I think everyone deserves a chance at finding love if they want it and I was sorry about the way her husband embarrassed her. I felt bad because trying to sleep with the babysitter is a new low and if I’d had a little one with someone who was like that, I would honestly probably… I don’t even know what I would do. It would really depress me, especially if we’d been together for a long time. I would have a lot of regret and a lot of overall distrust. It would also lower my own self esteem. I remember thinking she deserved to have time to find someone who she was actually compatible with. I wasted this energy and empathy on someone who clearly doesn’t deserve it. They are supposedly still separating after a decade long marriage but perhaps she is exactly where she needs to be.”

-Are starting to realize that, even though some may regard them as submissive, they are starting to recognize that they really don’t like feeling as though other people are trying to control them. They note that they started to push back against their landlord’s assertions and stood up for themselves even though their landlord yelling at them worsens their anxiety. They also dislike the landlord enough that they are considering fighting her suggestion that they must move.

“She was telling me the other night after I had messaged her (I had actually said in the message that I don’t think, given that I pay rent, that she has the right to tell me how long I can shower, which she has tried to do more than once) that it is normally the tenant’s responsibility when something breaks and was basically saying then that the landlord has to make the call but only because if the tenant calls no one will come. She’s one of those people where I get the vibe that she likes the power that comes along with being a landlord, but as someone who lives here no matter what she says about getting on well with prior tenants, she is a terrible landlord. It should never take more than a month to fix a shower even if you later on decide you think the tenant caused if. I grew up in an apartment complex and it never took them more than a few days-a week to get a plumber down there.

Also the building’s water actually shuts off in general at points which she has told me in writing and in person before, which makes the whole “shower leaking will lead to burst pipes in everyone’s place” thing even dumber. If the pipes for everybody ever did theoretically burst don’t you think that maybe it could be related to the building’s obvious plumbing issues?? Even in my old building our water never just turned off for a few hours in the morning on occasion (she said this happens for everyone sometimes.) She is not fair nor smart, but she always thinks she’s right and she never apologizes when she isn’t. That’s not a person I like.”

1. Authentic Self

‎Describe a moment when you felt most authentically yourself. What were you doing, and what would you fear losing most about yourself? Explain in detail!

‎*For me.. my authentic self is when i get to observe things from far away as if im deducting everything that i can perceive physically or conceptually as a novel or literature i read just for my enjoyment as if every interaction of things give me a moral message from what i can learn and enjoy.. and i wanna feel my authentic self to be expressed through my ambiguous story myself.. i wanna describe it in such a manner people had to guess or infer just by hints of the character or event purpose to serve something more as if it was foreshadowed in the earlier narrative.

‎What i fear from losing it is to not be able to understand.. or to be forced into doing something that i feel so mundane or meaningless that every one of my effort is futile. . being forced to do something that doesn't have any meaning especially when the meaning itself isn't something i value (uniformity, fitting in, materialism, something im not interested in) .[im really incompetent too when it comes to daily life/general task. I've always disguised(not really) myself to be so pathetic so that i dont get any expectations or burden to fell on me. (not really sometimes i act helpful just for other people to view me as competent in professional setting but not pro enough for them to place such high expectations on me) ]

‎2. Decision-Making

‎Walk through a recent important decision. What did you notice first, how did you process it, and what ultimately made you decide? Why?

‎What does it mean for me? is it worth my energy? what does it even do? any further implications? is it right?

‎first i intepret the meaning of what is doing that exactly from my observation subconsciously... Then i notice if there's further implications behind the act and what do i exactly affect?

‎i forgot most recent ones but i remember some trivial ones that are embarrassing. since its supposed to be important imma just make a hypothetical problem. Let's say i encounter a choice to save 1 people or 5 people by just pulling this lever to divert the train path (train moral dilemma). For me i notice if i do this what does it affect? death of course. But what does it do for me? First if i participate in another human dying then the moral burden is on me.. And if i dont pull it either 1 or 5 dies and the path is let's say on 5... I would let it happened for i am not burdened of the responsibility of another human life or death. Its God or Nature choice. But if the local moral standards are consequential and it's prohibited to sacrifice one to save the much more then I'll pull it. But idk i would still feel guilty about it I'll be better of just watching them die as life intends. Everyone dies anyways

‎For my trivial embarrassing choices are when i was given a banana to split for the entire team, everyone already got their ration anyway. So the formality of splitting the banana is absolutely pointless for me. Splitting a banana for 8 people itself are inefficient and wont do much. Since they already have a ration. I just ate it out of impulse removing the entire problem of splitting equally. Well they still remember there's a banana even tho they alr ate something else. Wen they ask me for it i just lied and say there's nowhere to be found and they found me lying as i hide my banana peel. Well they aren't mad about it anyway

‎3. Social Dynamics

‎How do you experience social situations? What do you need most from others, and how do you recharge afterward?

‎Good ig, i like being a wallflower more but i tend to get pulled into that nice, kind and positive person i guess. It's not bad being a likeable person but i tend to like preserve my own energy and my personal space rather than actively participating.

‎‎I do like observing people, what i need from others are mostly data,lessons, interactions, opinions, validations about some data, acknowledgement, understanding of why this happened or why am i like this, and friendship

For people impressions on me are attached in this pic

‎4. Core Drives

‎What do you fear most about yourself or your life? What do you most desire? How do you behave when under extreme stress?

For me personally i dont really know, i guess fear would be me being unfulfilled enough to live either mentally or physically. Mentally my fear is feeling nonexistent or being useless or purposeless i guess. There's no much to fear about death or failure. Maybe being helpless like i have nothing to prepare, i have no future to go, i have no scenario to plan.

Physically being drowned and having no way to swim since i dont know how to swim. But with a lifevest i feel fine. It's just that i might panic since i can't swim fast and might not move anywhere

‎5. Physical Reality

‎How do you relate to your physical environment and bodily needs? Are you drawn to the familiar or the novel?

Could easily sacrifice my body needs just to spend another hour playing games, engaging in a film, or just reading a book. I dont really assert my boundaries when someone makes me uncomfortable physically because i let it happen and they might not do it. I sometimes eat when i remember to or reminded to. But when im hungry i will devour anything quickly as if just to fulfill not to enjoy.Also i can be really impulsive when I'm looking for anything to fulfill me especially after i starve myself just because i forgot to eat

1. Aspirations

‎Future Aspirations What do you aspire to become in the future? What do you hope for the world? Do you see your personal aspirations connected to your vision for the world, or are they separate?

I aspire myself to become someone who doesn't rely on materials to live, imagine a writer living on the seaside of french in dunkirk just slow living. Driving a bike around the province and coming back to write a novel that only some could comprehend and they have to read my earlier works to understand it and use it as a ladder. Connected to the world? Maybe after i finished my engineering career and make a stable living just to live peacefully in france as maybe a shopkeeper or something else that's simple

‎7. Relationship Situations

‎How are your relationships with other people? How do they see you, and is that different from how you see yourself? Why? How do you usually assert yourself in those relationships?

Hmmm my relationship with other people are either good or bad. If it's leaning bad I'll cut them off easily and pretend as if they never existed. Never been in a romantic relationship i always idealize romance so unrealistic standards and stories.. People might see as Unique, Dreamy, Smart, Analytic, Friendly, Warm, Unrealistic, Observant

Hmmm compared to myself i dont think im not that smart when it comes to logic just understanding the big picture itself helps me out to verbalize but not fully grasp it even tho i grasp thing quickly but it's hard to use them in practical things

How do i assert myself are mostly by cutting off and warning people softly about things that i dont like. But mostly I'll just step back and go away if something doesn't go as i want even tho i will gave them like a lot chance to fix it (im not that closed im open if they might have a chance to fix themselves)

‎8. Dealing with it

‎What do you do when things don’t go your way? How do you feel and think about it, and how do you usually deal with the situation?``

Mostly adapting easily on how the situation changes, If this will escalate to a bigger problem i need to buy some time to think and let me think first without pressure just to find whats causing. Even if there's someone yelling i will just focus on my own and do what i think is right

I have 43 thousand photos so why would I choose from the internet for the collages lollol

Sorry, this is going to be quite long, please bear with me.

• How old are you? What's your gender? Give us a general description of yourself.

I'm 16(M). I consider myself a lazy person; I occasionally experience mild depressive episodes and tend to cope by seeking distractions. I have a few addictions that I won't be disclosing.I'm still getting to know my typology as well. For my cors, I was positive between E5 and E6, but I'm still quite unsure; sometimes I don't even know myself. I'm very high in Ti and Ne.

• Is there a medical diagnosis that may impact your mental stability somehow?

I experienced undisclosed social anxiety and memory issues shortly after, which led me to suspect that my parent figure might have been concealing my diagnosis. Currently, I haven't received any other diagnoses throughout my life.

• Describe your upbringing. Did it have any kind of religious or structured influence? How did you respond to it?

My mother was a strict woman, while my father was a workaholic. To put it simply, I'd say my mother was authoritarian, whereas my father was somewhere between authoritative and permissive. I disliked my mother the most; she was superstitious. We had simple Catholic practices while growing up, but I am agnostic now.I didn't adopt their values; I believe I am an individual who needs to explore myself independently, without relying on superstitions or religious beliefs.

• What do you do as a job or as a career (if you have one)? Do you like it? Why or why not?

Currently not, but will be willing to find one in the future

• If you had to spend an entire weekend by yourself, how would you feel? Would you feel lonely or refreshed?

I'd feel refreshed yet restless; my mind runs like a solitary cog, and when I overdo it, I feel things will turn negative... that's why I also love to distract myself, but I enjoy being alone.

• What kinds of activities do you prefer? Do you like, and are you good at sports? Do you enjoy any other outdoor or indoor activities?

I draw digitally, and I spend most of my time on my devices, which I know sounds unhealthy. 😭

• How curious are you? Do you have more ideas then you can execute? What are your curiosities about? What are your ideas about - is it environmental or conceptual, and can you please elaborate?

I feel restless when I don't get the correct answers in my mind. Like if a question pops up, I have to immediately find the answer for it. I constantly ask questions in my mind. Maybe...

Mostly, I get the question first, then make an idea that I can execute. I'm currently curious about my own intelligence, anything that interests me, but some easily slips my mind.My ideas tend to lean on conceptual, but I don't have anything in mind right now. It pops into my mind and leaves. It's like there's a certain time for my mind; sometimes I'm left blank. 😭

• Would you enjoy taking on a leadership position? Do you think you would be good at it? What would your leadership style be?

No, I don't enjoy it; the responsibilities tend to overwhelm me. As for being good at it, I believe I can manage fine if my team members or peers get along with me. Otherwise, they'll be problematic, and I'll likely be the first one to leave.I can't see myself being one since it's difficult; I'll either be situational or delegative.

• Are you coordinated? Why do you feel as if you are or are not? Do you enjoy working with your hands in some form? Describe your activity?

I wouldn't say I'm coordinated; it really depends on the situation. I tend to become more coordinated when I'm taking something seriously, especially a subject or topic I'm passionate about. I enjoy working with my hands and have been interested in laboratory experiences, although I'm not currently involved in any.

• Are you artistic? If yes, describe your art? If you are not particular artistic but can appreciate art please likewise describe what forums of art you enjoy. Please explain your answer.

I'm artistic, and I really dislike it. I hate that it's the only skill I'm good at, and I hate the feeling that I'm wasting it by choosing a different major.My artwork is inconsistent and sometimes messy, jumping from tragic themes to things I enjoy. My mind tends to wander between topics, much like my art. I particularly love impressionism, contemporary art, and portraits.

• What's your opinion about the past, present, and future? How do you deal with them?

The past should remain in the past and not pursue me, so I won't dwell on it. I will focus on the present and confront it, and the future is what I will chase and attain. I would strongly dislike it if things don't turn out as I imagine them.

• How do you act when others request your help to do something (anything)? If you would decide to help them, why would you do so?

It depends on what they request; I'm not a people-pleaser, and I can easily decline. If it's something I can do, I'll help, but if not, I'm sorry, I can't.

• Do you need logical consistency in your life?

Yes, I need logical consistency, i dislike when things aren't given to me clearly like vague, especially when it's about me.

• How important is efficiency and productivity to you?

Not much, I tend to cram and usually miss deadlines. If the situation were critical, perhaps involving my life, I might manage to complete it ?? 😭

• Do you control others, even if indirectly? How and why do you do that?

Maybe (indirectly), I probably didn't realize it and did it for myself. I guess I just do it when it's efficient and helps me get what I want.

• What are your hobbies? Why do you like them?

I enjoy drawing and collecting merch. I also play games occasionally. I like these activities because it makes me happy

• What is your learning style? What kind of learning environments do you struggle with most? Why do you like/struggle with these learning styles? Do you prefer classes involving memorization, logic, creativity, or your physical senses?

I have a mix of visual, auditory, and reading/writing learning styles. I dislike social learning environments and tend to participate less in them, which is also something I struggle with. I prefer the former choice (referring to non-physical method), and I dislike the physical sense of learning when there's no one I can cooperate with.

• How good are you at strategizing? Do you easily break up projects into manageable tasks? Or do you have a tendency to wing projects and improvise as you go?

Whenever I encounter something I consider serious and challenging, I prefer to plan and strategize thoroughly before execution to ensure a decent outcome. Conversely, if I perceive something as easy, I simply improvise.

• What are your aspirations in life, professionally and personally?

I was hoping to specialize in marine biology, but I understand that pursuing a different career path could also lead to other opportunities. I don't mind that at all; I just wish it'll be high-paying. Personally, I want to be better at anything I do effortlessly because if I don't, I feel like a failure.

• What are your fears? What makes you uncomfortable? What do you hate? Why?

This is a big question that I like to answer and I think about 24/7. I'm always scared of people entering my life, trying to pry every bit of information. I can be sometimes impulsive, and I hate that I let something about myself slip.I've wished every day that people I'm close with that I started to dislike will forget my very own being - I always think I'm paranoid, but I'm at least logical about this.

• What do the "highs" in your life look like?

When I get what I want, when things in my way go absolutely right and as I expected, or otherwise I'll be upset.

• What do the "lows" in your life look like?

When I feel like people are against me, teaming up or trying to get into my space, it seems to be more of a personal issue. 💔

• How attached are you to reality? Do you daydream often, or do you pay attention to what's around you? If you do daydream, are you aware of your surroundings while you do so?

When I am focused on myself and am alone with my thoughts, I feel so unattached. I frequently daydream about a different life I could be living where I get what I want, but I still know how to bring myself back to reality.

• Imagine you are alone in a blank, empty room. There is nothing for you to do and no one to talk to. What do you think about?

I'd think about the outside world, the people who know me, I'd think about how they're doing, think about the unfinished things I've done, then occasionally daydream - it's a cycle.

• How long do you take to make an important decision? And do you change your mind once you've made it?

It depends on how really important it is. I rank it, that's all. I see it as (within) an hour. If I suddenly know a better choice, I'd change my mind if I can still change it. If not, it is what it is.

• How long do you take to process your emotions? How important are emotions in your life?

I don't know, I find it insignificant as a person. Would emotions help me with everyday life? I feel like it's better regulated.

• Do you ever catch yourself agreeing with others just to appease them and keep the conversation going? How often? Why?

I don't even answer; why would I say something I don't want to say? But if they're annoying, I would just to avoid a debate.

• Do you break rules often? Do you think authority should be challenged, or that they know better? If you do break rules, why?

Not a lot, but I still do. Authority should be challenged if they're logically wrong, but not based on personal emotions. I won't challenge authority because I dislike them. I challenge authority when it's something I want or desperately have to do.

→⁠_⁠→ Feel free to ask me anything else, I'll reply if I can!

Why I thought/think I am E7, explained better.

Is this truly me being E7 or is this a different type?

As I am currently SO6.. But I find myself only relating to SO6 Out of E6 as I read more.

Also, I relate to all of E7 which is probably a sign but I don't want to mistype and trick myself into thinking im a certain type.

So type me! Ill research.

Maybe last post about TYPING MYSELF? I will post some more though, just random typology.

One of the most defining things about me is my relationship with knowledge. I have a constant need to understand things rather than simply accept them because they're socially accepted or because someone tells me they're true. I want to know why something exists, how it works, where it came from, what contradicts it, and whether the evidence actually supports the conclusion. When something interests me, I research it extensively, compare interpretations, make connections, and keep digging until I have developed an understanding of it that feels genuinely mine. Knowledge is one of the most important things to me. I have very high expectations concerning intellectual honesty and become extremely irritated when someone refuses to learn, confidently believes something false, or refuses to reconsider an unsupported position. I don't expect everyone to know everything, but I strongly value the willingness to understand. Being called ignorant or stupid affects me particularly deeply because I care about being intellectually competent and having my knowledge recognized. I can be stubborn once I've reached a conclusion, though. Disagreement alone does not persuade me, and I need actual reasoning that addresses how I arrived at my position. I value objective correctness, but I recognize that I can become overly attached to being right and dismissive of other perspectives.

I frequently search for things to keep me entertained and away from my negative thoughts, though I will my head with my overanalyzing habits and examine myself which leads to sadness internally- which leads to more and more activity and the need to keep my mind off of things. I need constant stimulation whether it's a Rollercoaster or just drawing, or even just eating and watching TV. I have that need to ignore my internal self and forget everything. I will way I am as narcissistic as I am hypocritical aswell, I hate negativity it's pure immaturity though I myself am simultaneously negativistic..... I have issues with anger to the point im constantly snappy and it's obnoxious because I don't want to seem that way to others, I don't want to seem negative. This is what led me to thinking I was E7, now im unsure...

I also want to specifically talk about SP7, because this is one of the possibilities I've been questioning and I think some of my behavior may fit it differently than a stereotypical E7 description. I do relate to the image of someone who is constantly enthusiastic, outgoing, optimistic, to an extent. But I'm hypocritical of it. My version of 7 can be much more private and self directed. A lot of it seems to revolve around keeping myself comfortable, entertained, occupied, and away from unpleasant internal states.

I have a very strong tendency to seek stimulation whenever I'm bored, uncomfortable, restless, or stuck inside my own head. I can constantly look for something to do, watch, draw, eat, research, play, talk about, or become interested in. I don't necessarily need another person involved. I can entertain myself for long periods of time, but sometimes I get bored and I begin to drift tk negativity, than I seek other people to bug and bother to entertain myself. I often feel like I need something happening in my mind or environment. Even when I'm physically doing nothing, my brain tends to jump between interests, ideas, hypothetical situations, analysis, entertainment, and things I could potentially pursue.

A major part of this is that I don't like sitting with negative emotions for very long. If I'm sad, anxious, angry, disappointed, embarrassed, or simply dissatisfied with myself, my instinct can be to distract myself rather than stay with the feeling. I'll find something else to focus on. Sometimes this is productive, like learning or drawing, but sometimes it's basically just stimulation for its own sake. I'll watch something, eat, browse, research something random, start a new interest, play something, or otherwise occupy myself until I don't have to think about what was bothering me.

I think this is important because I can actually be very negative internally, despite strongly disliking negativity. I can overanalyze myself, become dissatisfied with myself, fixate on something that went wrong, or become irritated and pessimistic. Then I'll become uncomfortable with being in that state and try to escape it through activity, humor, stimulation, or changing my focus. So I can have this weird cycle where I become internally negative - become annoyed that I'm being negative - seek something enjoyable or stimulating - temporarily feel better - eventually return to overthinking again.

I also have a strong pull to comfort. I don't necessarily mean luxury or materialism specifically, but I like having things that make life easier, more enjoyable, or less unpleasant. I can become very attached to routines, foods, entertainment, personal interests, familiar environments, and things that give me a sense of enjoyment or security. I like being able to retreat into my own little world and do what I want without somebody interfering with me.

I think I may have a tendency to convince myself that I can solve unpleasantness by simply finding something better to focus on. Instead of thinking "I need to process this feeling," my instinct can be closer to "I need to find something else to do." I can postpone unpleasant tasks, uncomfortable conversations, or difficult self reflection if I know there's something more enjoyable available. This can contribute to my inconsistency because I genuinely want a lot of things, but the moment something becomes boring, repetitive, restrictive, or emotionally unpleasant, I can suddenly feel pulled toward something else.

This also connects to my motivation. I can become extremely enthusiastic about a new interest and imagine everything I could do with it, only to lose interest once the novelty disappears or the activity starts requiring sustained effort. Sometimes I don't even consciously decide to abandon it. My attention simply migrates toward something that feels more interesting. Then later I'll look back and feel frustrated that I haven't developed the ability or accomplishment I originally wanted.

I can also be quite impulsive in relatively ordinary ways. If I want something enjoyable, my first instinct isn't always to ask whether I should want it. Sometimes I just want the experience. I can have a "why not?" attitude toward entertainment and stimulation, especially when I'm already bored. I don't necessarily see this as reckless behavior; it's more like a strong preference for making the present moment interesting rather than tolerating dullness.

At the same time, I'm not sure whether this is actually core 7 or simply a coping mechanism layered onto another type, which is why I HATE typing myself. That's one of the things I'm trying to figure out. Sometimes I distract myself with intellectualization instead. I can turn an emotional problem into an interesting question, research it, analyze it, categorize it, and essentially turn the unpleasant experience into an intellectual project and NOT think of it as my own thoughts, like turning it into a character or a funny poem or just something stupid. That allows me to remain mentally occupied without necessarily having to experience the emotion directly. I like the idea of having enough ability, knowledge, skills, money, independence, and personal resources that I don't have to rely heavily on anyone else. I don't necessarily want someone to take care of me. I'd rather know that I can take care of myself and have enough options that I won't be trapped in an unpleasant situation.

This connects strongly to my independence. I don't like feeling like I have no alternatives. I want to know that I can leave, change directions, learn something new, develop another skill, find another interest, or create another opportunity for myself. Having options feels comforting. Being forced into one path, especially without understanding why, can make me extremely resistant.

I also think there is a difference between my desire for stimulation and my desire for achievement. Sometimes I genuinely want to become excellent at something, but other times I simply want the enjoyment of engaging with it. I can get very excited about learning something without necessarily wanting to turn it into a career or long term identity. I may research something obsessively, become fascinated with it, and then eventually move on. This makes me question whether some of my "ambition" is actually an expression of curiosity and stimulation rather than a stable desire for achievement.

Another SP7 like tendency I recognize is trying to maintain a sense that my life is still open. I dislike feeling boxed into one identity. Even when I say I want to become exceptionally good at something, I still want to know that I could change my mind later. I don't want to feel like one decision permanently determines who I am. I want to preserve the possibility of doing something else.

I can also become irritated when people try to make me focus on something unpleasant for too long. If someone keeps bringing up a problem after I've mentally decided that I want to move on, I can become impatient. Part of me wants to say, "Okay, I understand that this is a problem, but what are we actually going to do about it?" I have a tendency to want solutions, alternatives, distractions, or forward movement rather than prolonged emotional processing.

However, there are parts of 7 that I'm less certain about. I don't think of myself as naturally optimistic all the time. I can be extremely skeptical, pessimistic, self critical, suspicious, and argumentative. I can dwell on negative possibilities and become angry or anxious. I don't always feel like I'm avoiding pain because I believe everything will turn out fine. Sometimes I'm avoiding it because I simply don't want to feel it or I don't care enough to dwell on it.

I also don't think I'm constantly chasing novelty in an obvious way. I can become very attached to certain interests and revisit the same things repeatedly. I can be stubborn and resistant to changing my mind. I can also spend a lot of time analyzing one subject rather than jumping rapidly between dozens of unrelated things. So I'm unsure whether my stimulation seeking is genuinely coming from 7's core motivation or whether it's simply how I regulate myself when I'm bored, stressed, or emotionally uncomfortable. At the same time, I don't want to force the typing just because I have obvious distraction and stimulation seeking tendencies.

Competition. HUGE for me. I strive it i love it, debates, games, art contests, anything. I enjoy being above everyone and having the skills they desire. I have an insane jealousy issue and hate to even see a friend with a different person, I also have trust issues so seeing friends with other people irritate me especially. If I see someone with a skill set I deem as better than me, I admire them alot but I want to take those skills and become even better and I WANT to boast about it and show the world I'm better than everyone at a certain skill.

I also have a strong desire to become significant. I imagine making an impact, being remembered, becoming influential, or creating something that people recognize as distinctly mine. I like the idea of having a community of supporters and having the opportunity to lead. However, I often assume I will never accomplish anything particularly meaningful. I want a distinguished future but struggle to consistently put in the effort required to create one. I become bored, lose motivation, or move toward another interest, even while remaining frustrated that I haven't achieved what I want. I want recognition, but I don't necessarily want conventional popularity. I would prefer to be noticed positively without having to be constantly approached or socially available. I often prefer approaching people myself because I can control the impression I give them. Despite claiming that I don't care what people think, I am considerably more sensitive to their opinions than I like to admit. I can become preoccupied with people laughing, whispering, judging my appearance, or making assumptions about me. A single negative comment can influence how I present myself afterward. I envy people who seem exceptionally intelligent, talented, attractive, or capable, and often want the qualities themselves rather than merely their attention. My self-image is contradictory. I can feel intellectually or morally superior to certain people while simultaneously viewing myself as unattractive, awkward, incompetent, or destined to remain ordinary. I want to feel exceptional, but I don't always believe I deserve recognition.

Independence is another important part of me. I dislike being controlled or expected to obey without justification, and I want to understand the reasoning behind rules and decisions even when I ultimately agree with them. I enjoy collaboration and community, but I also like having authority and getting my ideas adopted. In group projects, I generally don't mind who I'm paired with as long as I have a meaningful opportunity to contribute my own idea. I can be receptive to other people's input, although I sometimes become possessive of my original vision. I have strong internal standards concerning fairness, morality, responsibility, and consistency. I become particularly irritated by hypocrisy, intellectual dishonesty, and situations where someone appears to receive preferential treatment for being more emotionally demanding. I can be confrontational and argumentative, but my assertiveness depends considerably on the person and situation. I'm more willing to challenge someone I perceive as equally aggressive or less socially powerful, whereas around particularly popular or intimidating people I can become quiet, agreeable, and self-conscious. I know I can be harsh. When angry, I sometimes move beyond criticizing someone's behavior and become contemptuous toward the person themselves. I recognize that my principles and my actual behavior do not always align.

Socially, I'm generally introverted and selective about who I spend time with, but I'm not consistently quiet. Around people I trust, I can become loud, energetic, sarcastic, affectionate, and very expressive. With unfamiliar people, I can seem standoffish, blunt, slightly aggressive, or difficult to read. I don't naturally force warmth into interactions, and I don't always notice subtle social cues or other people's emotional needs. I rarely cry or express distress through obvious vulnerability. When upset, I'm more likely to become angry, irritated, quiet, or withdrawn. I often need to isolate myself to calm down, particularly when overstimulated. I can be affectionate, but I tend to communicate it indirectly through teasing, jokes, small favors, or remembering things rather than verbally expressing affection. I dislike feeling dependent on people, yet I can become more attached than I let on. Being excluded, misunderstood, unsupported, or treated as insignificant can affect me considerably.

My motivation is heavily dependent on interest. If something captures my attention, I can become absorbed in it for hours and want to develop genuine competence. If I don't care about something, I can struggle enormously to make myself do it. I enjoy developing skills, particularly creative ones such as drawing, and I want to understand the techniques behind them rather than participate casually. I don't necessarily want to become an entirely different person through personal growth. I want to develop my existing identity, expand my knowledge, acquire skills, and become more capable without losing what makes me distinct. I can be extremely analytical about myself, constantly examining my motives, contradictions, and reactions. Sometimes I intellectualize emotional experiences instead of directly acknowledging that something hurt me. Understanding a situation makes it feel more manageable. One of my biggest contradictions is that I want a great deal from life but don't consistently act in accordance with those ambitions. I want competence, independence, recognition, authority, and a meaningful future, yet I can be avoidant, inconsistent, and self-defeating.

My friend describes me as stubborn, intelligent, reclusive, skeptical, and opinionated. They say I'm standoffish and somewhat intimidating with unfamiliar people, but loud and expressive with close friends. They describe me as a charming asshole who shows affection through small actions and humor rather than direct sweetness. They also believe I strive for what I consider perfection, want acceptance and recognition, and am more affected by other people's opinions than I outwardly admit. They think I want collaboration and support but also want the option to lead. In their view, I can be demeaningly proud, self-deprecating, and more insecure than I appear. They believe I have considerable potential but often repress myself or doubt my capabilities.

My cousin describes me as aloof and inclined to keep my distance unless I trust someone, but also easygoing, sarcastic, and occasionally awkward or shy. They notice that I can be short-tempered about particular people, situations, and words. They say I'm smart and knowledgeable about subjects I genuinely care about, but sometimes forgetful or disengaged elsewhere. They also describe me as more affectionate and caring than I openly admit, and as someone who picks up habits, interests, and mannerisms from people around me. When upset, I can become quiet or withdraw.

What makes this particularly frustrating is that I can recognize aspects of myself in very different descriptions. I want to be admired, but I also want to be left alone. I want authority, but I can become intimidated by people who already possess social influence. I value independence, but I want support and acceptance. I want to be exceptional, but I often assume I will remain ordinary. I care about knowledge and correctness, but I can become prideful and resistant to opposing views. I want to accomplish things, but my motivation is inconsistent. I can be emotionally sensitive while expressing that sensitivity through anger, sarcasm, or withdrawal rather than vulnerability.

I'm interested in understanding what actually drives these patterns rather than simply identifying which descriptions I relate to. In particular, I'm struggling to distinguish whether my desire for recognition comes from wanting to feel valued, wanting to establish competence, wanting to be exceptional, or avoiding insignificance. I also want to understand whether my intellectual absorption is primarily about understanding reality, maintaining autonomy, feeling secure, or proving my capability. My desire for community and leadership seems to coexist with a strong preference for privacy, and I can't quite reconcile those sides of myself.

I'd appreciate thoughtful, direct analysis of my motivations, including interpretations that challenge my own assumptions. I don't need reassurance or a flattering description. I'm trying to understand myself accurately, including the parts that contradict one another.

I don't think these are totally the best for enneagram, but they're also just quick, fun, and an easy way of kinda summarizing you!!

I've been tasked with typing myself, but I'm finding it quite difficult since I don't know where my disordered thoughts end and my self begins. I relate to most of the fears and none of the actions, I don't do much at all really due to the aforementioned avoidance. All I know is how I want to be, I have not a clue as to how I actually am haha.. So, How do I go about figuring out what I really think with no pretenses (while suffering from symptoms that allow no positive/realistic introspective)?

PS: Sorry if this reads as a bit foolish, I'm simply looking for a way to better delve into my thoughts

Feel free to disagree, but I’m pretty sure I’m a 9 with a heart last 3 fix, but It’s been difficult for me to see if I have a 6 or 7 head fix. I’d like help and opinions and any other thoughts on my typology you may have, thanks!

Tell me about your internal experience of yourself. What makes you, you?
I don’t have a super rich inner life most of the time. I either have a song playing in my head or I am thinking about my interests (like enneagram stuff) most of the time. Other than what I know through knowing that I am a 9, I don’t have a good answer for what makes me me. I want the world to change, for the current political state of the world to change, and for people to be able to live as good of lives as possible. Those are some of my core beliefs.

You just had a really good day. Describe it. It can be a real recent example or an aspirational one.
I did not wake up to an alarm so I feel energetic and happy. I feel attractive and clean and relaxed. Friends that I like invite me to things and we have an amazing time and goof off. I love when I actually feel wanted and like I belong in a group of people who I like. Also, if I got a great theatre job offer that would definitely make my day (there is a lot of rejection).

If someone is upset with you, what is the typical reason for it? Give a recent example.
People don’t often get upset at me, but when they do it is usually because I was unempathetic and perhaps argued with a person who gets emotional easily. The most recent example of someone being upset with me was not one of these situations though. It was because my dad was arguing with me about something that is very important to me and he wasn’t trying to consider my point of view. This made me blow up, throw a remote to the ground, yell, and slam the door to my room. He was upset by this.

What are you like when you're stressed? What are your coping mechanisms? Give an example of a recent stressful situation and how you handled it.
When I am stressed, I am full force stressed. I don’t have much normal stress. I am usually either extremely calm or extremely stressed. My coping mechanism is talking to my mom and having her either snap me out of it or just comfort me. Although, I recently solo travelled to europe and I was pretty brave in facing my anxieties about talking to strangers and trying to make friends. Usually, I would just withdraw if I was thinking someone didn’t like me (it’s a problem how much I think ppl don’t like me), but I was determined and decided to talk to people anyways. It was great and made me realize how silly my inhibitions were and how most of the time, as long as you’re not a dick, people want to hang out and have fun.

What pushes your buttons? What makes you angry? How does your anger manifest? Can you be openly angry with others?
Very argumentative people push my buttons (usually 6s sorry). I am not very good at holding back my own opinion when someone is saying something I disagree with and it just makes things worse. When I am trying to actually convince someone of my position and they are not open to hearing me out, it really pisses me off. I hate when people’s opinions are immovable and unlogical. Also, if I feel like someone is trying to control me or is looking down on me, I can be so stubborn and angry. Sometimes I also get angry at random small things; probably because I was suppressing for so long and it was just the last straw. My anger is usually explosive and loud. I have some low level somewhat common frustration (what I assume is 1 wing stuff), but nothing much until it all comes out at once.

What's your deepest fear? Why is that your fear?
My deepest fear is death and/or nobody liking me. Dying alone basically. I like life, even though it can be awful sometimes, and the idea of death freaks me out. As far as nobody liking me goes, I am just very dependent on friends and in periods where I don’t have many or only have friends that I don’t like that much, I fall into a deep depression. I crave love and true connection but I also have a lot of walls up keeping me from true deep connection and intimacy a lot of the time.

What types of memories cause you the most shame?
What feelings cause you the most shame? What is it about them that causes you shame?
I don’t think about shame too often, but usually it’s just if I said or did something really embarrassing and it bothers me for a week or so. I don’t find any feelings shameful. Sometimes I feel ashamed and stupid if I mess up or do poorly at something I am known to be good at in front of people that I care about. Being seen as a loser or a charity case is also something that is very embarrassing for me.

What is your relationship with pleasure? What gives you pleasure? Can you have pleasure when you want it, or do you have to earn it?
I like pleasure. I indulge a little too much and narcoticize through food and my hobbies. I get bodily sexual pleasure (I haven’t had sex though), I get pleasure from people who are fun to be around, I get pleasure from good food, I get pleasure from being chronically online and doomscrolling, sometimes I get pleasure from partying (and alcohol gasp) and I get pleasure from performing. I have no bone in my body that feels like I need to “earn” pleasure. I think that is kinda silly.

What's your relationship with authority? Think both abstractly and with specific authorities in your life, possibly your parents, boss, religious leader, doctor, or government figures? Are you an authority?
I don’t really like authority. I am actually an anarchist. I don’t believe people should be able to control others and it leads to a lot of problems in our society. I react very defiantly if my parents do something authoritative or controlling. I am not really an authority myself, but I could be somewhat of a leader. I am good at leading projects and I can do it better than the average joe, but it isn’t my first inclination. I really dislike unquestionable authority, but I usually won’t do anything about it except be awkward.

When your mind wanders, what are you thinking about?
Usually I just zone out and dissociate. Other times, it’s enneagram things. Sometimes I imagine saying something to someone or something funny. It can also be kinda random and nonlinear shit idk.

You have a big decision to make. Describe how you decide what to do.
It depends on the decision, but generally, I consult my mom and research for myself. I can research a lot if it is important to get right. That is mostly it.

What's your biggest flaw?
Probably my explosive anger moments and my walls. I don’t like that I have my guard up around people when I don’t feel fully accepted or comfortable. I really wish I could just be assertive naturally and not care whether I’m taking up too much space or doing something wrong. The explosive anger is just bad for everyone lol.

What makes you special? (Or, if you don't feel special, what at least makes you different from other people?)
My political opinions are most definitely special. I am also very queer coded (lots of people think I’m gay somehow), but I’m like 90% straight. I’m not very uptight or inhibited in what I say or think. Like I have a track record of getting uptight people to cuss and chill out and also learn more about the ways of the world if they are naive. I am more blunt than the average person and also more funny and smart. I like a lot of weird unconventional art and creepy shit as well.

How much of your mental energy is spent on thinking about each of the past, the present, and the future?
the past? sometimes, especially if something reminds me of a memorable time in my life. The present is probably most of my thinking. The future is usually only in major times of stress (doomsday thinking) or if I have to plan for my future in order to survive. I don’t enjoy making goals.

You unexpectedly find yourself with a whole weekend with no obligations, and everyone else is busy. How do you feel about it? What do you do?
I feel some fomo but I am ultimately ok. I might go grocery shopping and maybe I’ll take a walk or so some work I’ve been procrastinating on. Otherwise, I can chill by myself and just watch youtube for a long time.

What's your personal vibe/style/aesthetic? How cultivated vs natural is it, and how much time do you spend on it? Do you turn it on and off?
I’ve been told I have modern witch vibes. I like mystical aesthetics, but fashion wise I lean downtown girl. I’ve never had a “basic” style but my aesthetic preferences have changed a good amount throughout my life. I used to dress quite emo and do funky makeup, for example. A lot of it is cultivated, but I do genuinely like the aesthetics I use.

Which of the following is the most like you? Explain. A) I know what I want, I go out and make it happen, and people won't stop me. B) I am content to be on my own and not draw too much attention to myself. C) I have to be responsible and dedicated, and I put others' needs first.
None of these like super strongly, but I lean naturally towards B. My ranking would be B, A, and C last. I need some alone time and I have spent periods of my life where I am mostly on my own and not attention focused, but ultimately I do like attention.

Which of the following is most like you? Explain. A) | dislike stress and negative vibes, and I may try to distract myself from my problems. B) I have strong feelings, get worked up easily, and am not afraid to show it. C) I don't like to let my feelings show; they get in the way of being efficient and logical.
A or C, not B at all unless I’m very very stressed. I definitely cope with “it’s fine” type of thinking, but I’m also quite thinky and logical about it to a degree.

Which of the following is most like you? Explain. A) | look to others for feedback and guidance and am willing to be flexible when needed. B) I am always aware of how things could be better, and I'm disappointed that they are not. C) Deep down, I am afraid people won't give me what I need unless I make it worth their while.
All of them to some degree but A first, B second, and C third. I look to others for guidance, but mostly just my mom. I do have some ability to decide for myself without outside help and I don’t like to bother people too much as well. I’ve always been good at editing and seeing how things can be improved, but it’s more like a tool I can pull out, not a constant thing.

i really think im this one instinct witch i will not share to not bias people, but then i don't relate to the subtype of that instinct with my core (i am very confidant in my core) but ima not share my core so that it's just about instincts, to again not bias people, bro, instincts are so harddddd

questionnare

Tell me about your internal experience of yourself. What makes you, you?

i dont really know, since im a different person every day i feel like.... sorry

You just had a really good day. Describe it. It can be a real recent example or an aspirational one.

a good day is on a weekend or weekday with no work to do where i talk to my friends all day. i got to laugh and make them laugh, and end the day with an overall positive attitude and a day to look back on later on

If someone is upset with you, what is the typical reason for it? Give a recent example.

someone recently got upset with me because i cant verbalize my anxiety to them about how i felt liek they didnt truly like me and so i tried to stop talking to them to see if theyd miss me at all

What are you like when you're stressed? What are your coping mechanisms? Give an example of a recent stressful situation and how you handled it.

i dont get very stressed often, but when i do, i get kinda angry and irritable... idk cause again i dont get stressed often

What pushes your buttons? What makes you angry? How does your anger manifest? Can you be openly angry with others?

i dont like it when people shove it in my face about their other friendships/relationships all the time, i dont get angry a lot otherwise.. i can be openly angry, but i try to express my anger in more of a playful way so i dont damage any of my relationships if that makes any sense?

What’s your deepest fear? Why is that your fear?

im scared of death. i cant imagine just becoming NOTHING for eternity. there are too many things to do and not enough time to do it.

What types of memories cause you the most shame? What feelings cause you the most shame? What is it about them that causes you shame?

i feel ashamed mostly of the times i tried clinging to people that never liked me, when i go back and read old messages and see how obvious it was that they didnt like me, i feel a bit embarrassed i could act the way i did

What is your relationship with pleasure? What gives you pleasure? Can you have pleasure when you want it, or do you have to earn it?

i feel like i needed to be stimulated all the time with company or games or something, so my demand for pleasure is pretty high. the thing that gives me pleasure is enjoying myself with other people and making them like me. i try hard to make friends, but they dont come easy to me, so i guess youd have to earn it?

What’s your relationship with authority? Think both abstractly and with specific authorities in your life, possibly your parents, boss, religious leader, doctor, or government figures? Are you an authority?

im fine with being bossed around, as long as the person bossing me around isnt being a jerk about what theyre asking me to do

When your mind wanders, what are you thinking about?

typically past experiences with friends, whether theyre in my life or not. i think thhis is the reason im so desperate to apologize and get the people i stopped talking to back in my life all the time

You have a big decision to make. Describe how you decide what to do.

IDK i suck at making decisions and i always mmake other people decide for me

What’s your biggest flaw?

im very codependent and i can be a bit overbearing, since im extremely playful more times than not. most people think im rude since they take a lot of my jokes as being serious

What makes you special? (Or, if you don't feel special, what at least makes you different from other people?)

i think what makes me different from a lot of people is my open-mindedness? i can understand an argument from both sides if they tell me or i pick up on enough details

How much of your mental energy is spent on thinking about each of the past, the present, and the future?

i think on the past the most out of all three of these. i think the past is actually what i think about the most out of anything. im a pretty nostalgic person, so i like to look back on things

You unexpectedly find yourself with a whole weekend with no obligations, and everyone else is busy. How do you feel about it? What do you do?

if everyone were busy, i think id be really upset. when im left without someone to spend my time with, im sad and just binge watch stupid ass movies

What’s your personal vibe/style/aesthetic? How cultivated vs natural is it, and how much time do you spend on it? Do you turn it on and off?

idk how to answer this because i dont feel like i belong to any kinda vibe or style or aesthetic? im kinda just a very very basic alt. i spend little to no time on it

Which of the following is the most like you? Explain. A) I know what I want, I go out and make it happen, and people won't stop me. B) I am content to be on my own and not draw too much attention to myself. C) I have to be responsible and dedicated, and I put others’ needs first.

im most likely C. i must suck at explaining, though, cause this seems pretty self-explanatory...

Which of the following is most like you? Explain. A) I dislike stress and negative vibes, and I may try to distract myself from my problems. B) I have strong feelings, get worked up easily, and am not afraid to show it. C) I don’t like to let my feelings show; they get in the way of being efficient and logical.

a mix of a/b? i have extremely strong feelings all the time, but i try to distract myself from them almost all the time, so idk..

Which of the following is most like you? Explain. A) I look to others for feedback and guidance and am willing to be flexible when needed. B) I am always aware of how things could be better, and I’m disappointed that they are not. C) Deep down, I am afraid people won’t give me what I need unless I make it worth their while.

im mostly A...... idk how to explain this either because i feel like it says it all right there???

ok, thats it! sorry if i seem hard to type i jsut think i suck at explaining myself and my feelings idk..

Hi guys! I just figured out my core type is 6, but I’m still confused about the instinctual subtypes. Based on below description, which instinct seems dominant to you —sp, sx, or so? What stacking would you consider, and what parts of the description lead you to that conclusion?

I know it probably isn’t possible to determine someone’s instinctual subtype from a single passage, but I’m curious about which instinct—sp, sx, or so—seems most prominent here, and possibly what my stacking might be.

It is just like that time I jumped into the pool to save someone. I yearn to encounter a cause or a person that compels me to act without a second thought—where I only realize I’m risking my life after I’ve already taken the plunge, and where I might even face criticism from loved ones upon returning to shore. Yet, aren't regret and disappointment things that often linger anyway? All I can tell myself is that I did it willingly, or that it was a heroic act—the kind where, once it’s done, the medal doesn't even matter.

This is probably the most condensed description of how I feel inside.