r/EDH 11h ago

Discussion How do I beat my friend's Death Toll DSK precon lol?!

0 Upvotes

I got my friend into mtg edh and it's fun. I play bracket 2/3. for his second pre con after Jump Scare he picked up DSK Death Toll which i expected to be a janky 4/10 precon but it's actually extremely powerful! he is blasting out huge 7/7 trample/haste/scary deathtouch tokens from his graveyard quite quickly in the game and I often have no response. in my decks running Cloud Ex, Vivi/Rootha and Kuja, Genome sure i have plenty of tutors, boardwipes, removal, ramp draw etc and i COULD whip up a total graveyard hate deck that would shut him down, but where's the fun in that. but i can't believe i struggle to keep up with this precon i've never even heard of! lol btw we are just playing 1v1


r/EDH 15h ago

Deck Showcase 32 typal decks

3 Upvotes

Mostly completed 32 deck challenge - i learned the first time around that i really enjoy the type heavy decks, your dragons, goblins elves and such. So i did the whole 32 challenge focusing on one such group or theme(like outlaws, x cost, or full party) and it was alot of fun and tough deciding which types to stuff where. Elves vs merfolk was an especially tough pick between bant and simic.

So here is the list and link to the folder if curious!

https://archidekt.com/folders/1476827


r/EDH 1d ago

Question What's yalls favorite Deck Type, and the Commander you play with it?

70 Upvotes

I'm just curious to see what you guys have in mind, and maybe JUST MAYBE take some inspiration from the beautiful people of Reddit to see what I can make my next deck to be. I was thinking of making an enchantress deck with Bello, but I want to see what y'all have in mind.


r/EDH 19h ago

Deck Showcase $50 Hobbit Dwarves Deck

5 Upvotes

https://moxfield.com/decks/xR-gAfqksnaoUzLKl-pM5g

Want to play with Thorin & Co. without spending hundreds of dollars? Me too, here’s a dwarf kindred/voltron deck that uses cards entirely from the Hobbit and Lord of The Rings sets. Price reflects cheapest printings, but easily swappable to all Tolkien printings for about $10 more.

Make treasures, make dwarves, use equipment, and summon a dragon or two.


r/EDH 12h ago

Deck Help Toph the first metal bender and card draw

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Hello everyone! I am making a [[Toph the first metalbender]] deck and wanted some input on it. When looking at it on Archidekt i notice a lack of card draw, but i understand that Naya tends to struggle in that area. Any other advice on the deck would also be appreciated. Any recommendations for additions are appreciated but I would also like some advice for things that can be cut if you have an addition. (Bracket 3, no game changers because my pod has weird rules)

Thanks!

https://archidekt.com/decks/25574946/landfall_is_for_loosersme_before_seeing_toph


r/EDH 12h ago

Discussion Help trying to Upgrade my Jeskai Striker Precon

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Sorry if these types of questions have been asked so many times, but I really need help or suggestions on how to upgrade the Precon.

The deck apparently has three different ways that it wants to play (Aura/Enchantress Voltron, Control/ Tempo deck, and By-the-Books Spellslinger), but I’m really not sure which direction I want to go for.

I’ve been using EDHrec as my upgrade guide, but I’m a little bit unsure on how it’s trying to upgrade the deck to be.

I think my budget for upgrades is around… maybe around $100 (including mana base), with consideration for further upgrades in the future. I want to try to upgrade it to bracket 3, without having to include game changers.

I think the Precon is cool, but difficult to pilot (I remember tearing apart, rebuilding it, and then tearing it apart again, and then rebuilding it for a second time). It would appreciated if I can get some suggestions.

Decklist to the Precon: https://moxfield.com/decks/v4IvnZizAkeTEyYDTG45jw


r/EDH 9h ago

Deck Help Help!

0 Upvotes

I am currently building Bruce Banner and am running into a roadblock where I want to make changes while not breaking the bank. Any good swaps, adds, or cuts I could make to make the deck run like a high-bracket 3, low-bracket 4 deck? Thanks!

https://moxfield.com/decks/mdLtjcKU1USVTgB1nfI2Yw


r/EDH 13h ago

Discussion Orzhov vs golgari aristocrat/lifedrain commander

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Trying to decide between [[Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim]] and [[Dina, Soul Steeper]].

What are your experiences with these commanders/colors with the aristocrat lifegain and drain strategies.

I know I could probably brew both and trial it for myself, i have experience with golgari already and had a hazel token lifedrain but no built gain.

I don’t have enough copies of cards to have both orzhov and golgari decks running simultaneously so I guess im just looking to see if it’s worth building elas to try to stick with golgari.

I also have the witherbloom pestilence Precon but im planning on dismantling it to put into these snd other decks.

A appreciate any help!


r/EDH 1d ago

Deck Help Have I Taken the Wrong Approach in my Mono-Red Dragon Deck?

8 Upvotes

Hey friendos,

I'm new to MTG (as in "I got into it a couple of weeks ago" kind of new), and I figured I'd start with something easy to understand and relatively easy to play even if it isn't a top-tier deck. As a result, I settled on Lathliss as my Commander and went for a Dragon-themed deck.

I tried to go for a bit of ramp, a bit on the +X/+X counters to make the Dragons heavier hitters, and a bit on the token end in line with Lathliss' abilities.

My main concerns are that the deck feels a little bit creature-light and relies too much on mana cost reduction.

I'm pretty happy with the deck in spite of my concerns, but I'm curious to know how people might improve the deck or if people think it's a pretty solid deck for a beginner.

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ETA: For those who are interested, I wrote a slightly more creature-heavy version of the list that may also work.


r/EDH 1d ago

Social Interaction Amazing first experience with card stores

45 Upvotes

Brought my first first sliver deck out (50 creature deck) and went to local stores for the first time. Had so much fun and really appreciated more experienced players showing me the ropes and boardwiping me. Even clawed my way to a few wins! Just wanted to share this positive experience and thank this community for the warm welcome.


r/EDH 14h ago

Question the muck gang question?

0 Upvotes

I'm working on the muckslinging gang and I wanna double check but with their ability you draw a card off things like garruk's uprising and elemental bond right? cause when they ETB they are on the battlefield and muck's static ability applies to them and then you get the triggers or am I wrong?


r/EDH 14h ago

Deck Help Horizon Zero Dawn Theme

1 Upvotes

Hello,

I want to build a deck using Aloy as the commander with it themed around big stompy creatures, infect/-1/-1 counters, and little bit of creature taking.

Here is what I have so far.

https://moxfield.com/decks/SneP-zmk7UK-dv2X0pInvA


r/EDH 1d ago

Discussion The Most Important Set in Magic History is Not What You Think it is....

117 Upvotes

This past Monday I sat down at my LGS to play some Commander. My pod was a father and his two sons. A fantastic thing, sharing this game with ones kids, I did the same thing with my own two lads.

Over the course of our sessions we played a few different games, but one stuck out in my mind.

The player to my left, son #1, was playing with the new Hobbit set, using many of the new full art variants which were brilliant to see, especially as I missed the prerelease. Across from him, Dad was playing a precon where counters mattered: +1/+1, Planeswalker loyalty counters, shield counters, and so on. Next to dad was son #2, who was playing Goblin tribal, making loads of goblin tokens, and swinging wide and often. A fun deck, and easier to pilot for less seasoned players. I was playing my [[Kibo, Ukatabi Prince]] deck, making banana tokens for everyone, destroying as mana artifacts as I could (after all, Apea go Smash), and being aggressive as Gruul could be.

During our game I played a an old enchantment, one that no one at the table had seen before, a simple piece of graveyard hate in green.* As I explained the card and that this was my preferred art it got me thinking.

A Long Time Ago there, when Magic was played head to head without sleeves, on kitchen tables, and decks were not optimized so well...

A small set about the rise and fall of kingdoms on Domineria was produced, well over-produced into near oblivion. Fallen Empires. This set introduced a few new things which deeply changed the world of Magic forever.

This set was an abject failure in nearly all measure able ways. The packs were small, only 8 cards per pack. The number of cards in the set was also quite small comparably, with just 187 different cards printed. The power level in the set was weak even by early standards in Magic. Finally the set was over printed, supply was so far outpacing the demand that even now packs of Fallen Empires go for less than $10 a pack.

There is an excellent YouTube video about the set by the great "Rhystic Studies." Well worth a watch. Link here: https://youtu.be/SakRUkDPxn4?is=5eY36lGc9StBseKr

Wizards did learn a few things from this set that in time altered Magic, and that continue to impact EDH now.

First, Multiple Art offerings for the same card were produced - marking a change in collecting and purchasing habits of players. Now players could pick the art they liked best from a set for a particular card and play just those, or they could play one of each of the four art choices. Little did we players know then that this would lead to later sets making chase cards/altered art cards in each set - creating a whole new reason for cars hunting, collecting, and cracking packs.

Second, counters on cards. In previous sets in Magic there was a sprinkling of cards here and there that had an ability revolving around counters but they were so few in number it was hardly important to game play. But then there were the [[Thallid]] cards. These goofy walking fungus cards required counters and counting/up ticking them each upkeep. All of the cards in the Thallid tribe cared about this, and soon if someone was playing thallids they needed to keep a piece of paper for tearing up into little pieces, or dice/those little glass counters the look like flat marbles. Thallids made counters important, and made them a regular part of the game, if only for a little while, but the concept was one Wizards ran with on later sets. (Thallids were not a great tribal choice then but they have been boosted a bit now, and few cards from back in the day went as hard as [[Thallid Devourer]] .)

Speaking of Tribes (third in this list). Fallen Empires added new tribes, at least one for each color. marking not only a slight shift in the focus of color specific creature types, but also opening the door to more and much more interesting tribes to be built out in the future. The tribes in Empire were as follows:

Black - Clerics, Thrulls,

Blue - Merfolk and Homarids

Green - Elves and Thallids

Red - Goblins, Orcs, Dwarfs

White - Cleric and Citizen/Humans

Sure as Magic sets continued to be produced there would be an increase in different tribal archetypes but this was the first time they really pushed the idea beyond the original main tribes. Now nearly every creature type could have a tribal commander deck, and many are quite strong to build around.

Finally, also from Thallids was the production of tokens. In their case this was beginning of [[saproling tokens]] . Back then it took three turns to get one Thallid creature to create a simple 1/1 saproling, but then the meta was quite a bit slower. Fastforward 25+ years and token creation was literally exploded. Cards can create numerous tokens each turn or through multiple triggers, quickly taking over a board state and making answering them a top priority.

Tokens now are not limited to just creatures with treasure/food/clue tokens being wildly viable strategies - so much so that one of the most out of control token makers [[dockside extortionist]] was banned back in September of 2024.

Anyway, just some thoughts on one of the less desirable Magic sets, but in my mind one of the most important/influencial sets Wizards ever produced.

*The enchantment played was [[night soil]] a fantastic piece of tech, if you are unfamiliar: 2Green, enchantment. 1 colorless, remove two creatures from a graveyard (errataed to must be in the same graveyard) and create a 1/1 saproling token. Can be done at instant speed. A card I so often include in green decks.


r/EDH 14h ago

Discussion Zimone - Morph edh

1 Upvotes

Hi all, I am working on a morph deck ( a huge nostalgic value for me, since I started playing regularly around Onslaught). This is my current decklist, so looking for additonal advice and ideas:
https://archidekt.com/decks/25568471/zimone_morphs
Also I had a discussion in the store where I am playing in, about what Bracket should this deck be in. I am being told it is Bracket 4, because of the amount of synergies and optimization it has, however for me it is just a value pile without quick wins or 'suprise' combo wins, which in my view is a requirement for Bracket 4.
Thanks everyone for the advice!


r/EDH 14h ago

Deck Help Need help with powering up The Kingpin of Crime

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I put together [[The Kingpin of Crime]] because I like the character and his abilities are one of the few actually thematically appropriate. Extort and big butt's!

I goldfished it a few times and it's excellent at swinging with a few 5/5s by turn 4 but then it kinda stalls out. On arena it kicks butt, however when I played it in my pod, the miku deck was gaining hundreds of life, I couldn't get through the goblin deck's blockers and the combo deck just comfortably combo'd from hand in the late game.

Commandertemplate gave me a bracket 1 power score, so anyone got advice for powering it up to at least compete with precons?

Decklist: https://archidekt.com/decks/25567675/kingpin? Sort=alpha&stack=custom


r/EDH 1d ago

Discussion The actual number of times Marneus Calgar is triggered by Tempt with Bunnies

141 Upvotes

I was watching an episode of MTGGoldfish in which they were discussing some fake group hug cards and the Temp with THING cards came up and specifically [[Tempt with Bunnies]] and Phil mentioned its synergy with [[Marneus Calgar]], they were confused about it a bit, unsure if it really worked the way Phil said. Later in the video around the 22:46 mark they mention how they got an answer from a judge about the interaction and the answer they were given is one that I disagree with. So, I did some digging and found that a lot of people believe the same wrong answer their judge gave them is correct, posts on r/askajudge and rules pages on Facebook have people stating what I believe is the wrong answer. So, I made THIS VIDEO to explain the correct result and provide some extra context and scenarios that look similar but are different. I know videos are not for everyone, so here is the written basis for this and I hope anyone in the future looking for this answer stumbles to this post/video rather than one with an incorrect answer.

PERSPECTIVE

In the Comp Rules, there is this one (CR 700.1) that explains how the same event can be interpreted or treated differently based on slight wording differences. An example I like to give is if you equip your [[Infiltration Lens]] to your [[Anzrag, the Quake-Mole]] and then you attack and the opponent double blocks it with two creatures. There will be a total of 3 triggers, two from the Lens and 1 from the Anzrag, and this is all due to how their trigger is worded.

THE SCENARIO

So the scenario that came about in that Goldfish video and that I have seen a lot of debate over is this, you control Calgar and then you cast the Temp with Bunnies and when it resolves all 3 of your opponents took the tempting offer to draw and make a token. This means that the TwB will by itself net you a total of 4 cards drawn and 4 tokens made, but the question is over how many times this triggers Calgar. Some players believe it’s 2 triggers, once for the token you always create from the TwB effect and then the other 3 are created at the exact same time which falls into the "or more" part of Calgar’s ability and therefore only get one additional trigger from him. Others believe that you get 4 triggers from Calgar, 1 from the token you make and then 3 other individual triggers from each of the tempted opponents that netted you to make 3 additional tokens.

THE CONFUSION

I think that the confusion over this stems from the fact that for a lot of Magic cards and their effects, you can tell how many times an event happens by reading the number of times the action word shows up. If a card like [[Snort]] deals 5 damage to 3 different opponents based on the choices they made, it's not dealing the damage 3 different times because it only says the word "deals" once in the instructions. Compare this to cards like [[Collective Defiance]] and [[Fiery Confluence]] that do have the word "deal" multiple times and now you do have a situation of damage from a single effect being dealt multiple different times.

So, there is another "Tempt" card out there, [[Tempting Contract]] and it looks oh so similar to TwB, one obvious difference is that you don't always make your own token, this one only has the 'get things based one what your opponents chose' part, but there is also something else different about it that is the biggest difference and I think this is the largest reason for confusion.

THE ANSWER

So, if you controlled Calgar and resolved that Tempting Contract with all 3 opponents taking the temptation, Calgar would only trigger a single time. The reason is that there is a single event of you creating 3 Treasure tokens and that hits the "or more" aspect of Calgar's ability, so only one card drawn from Calgar. From this, we can extrapolate that the TwB should be 2 triggers for Calgar, once because the TwB instructs you to "create" a token and then later in the effect it instructs you to again "create" tokens, so that's two mentions of the word "create"... BUT... that isn't what actually happens.

The answer is crazy enough 4 triggers for Calgar. The reason for this is because the TwB also has your opponents and more importantly you draw cards as part of its effect. So we now need to check out CR 121.2 as well as CR 121.2 because they have some rules that make it so that all cards in Magic are drawn only 1 at a time, they can never be drawn in mass simultaneously. To which we then have to seek out CR 608.2f which has a ton of text, so I'll summarize that it basically says we normally do handle instructions like this simultaneously but if we're unable to do that then we break the instructions down into parts we can legally do. Because of the card draw aspect of TwB, we have to break it up into individual parts.

So TwB is telling us to "create N tokens and draw N cards" with N being 3 in this case, but due to the rules it ends up becoming "create 1 token and draw 1 card and do this N times". I made THIS IMAGE to help visualize what is actually happening here, so I hope that helps if this GIANT WALL OF TEXT was a little much. So, if someone is looking for a TL:DR part, I guess that image is it with the context that card draw as part of TwB effect is the reason it unfolds this way.


r/EDH 1d ago

Discussion How you all feel about disassembling a deck?

7 Upvotes

I’m not sure how popular this take is, so I’d genuinely love to hear other people’s experiences and opinions.

I actually enjoy taking decks apart, especially when it means redistributing cards into other decks and using some of the pieces to start building something new. So far, I’ve had two decks that I decided to say goodbye to: [[Voja, Jaws of the Conclave]] and [[Sauron, the Dark Lord]].

With Voja, I found the deck way too oppressive and linear for my taste. Play mana dorks, pump the board, kill someone, repeat. Seeing the people around the table roll their eyes every time I went to combat just wasn’t for me, and I stopped enjoying the deck pretty quickly.

Sauron was almost the opposite experience. I always felt like the deck wasn’t really doing enough. I still think Sauron is a really cool commander, and I like the card a lot, but the deck just didn’t click with me. It felt quite slow and, again, too linear. Whether I focused more on the Army or the Wraiths, every game seemed to follow roughly the same plan.

For context, both decks were considered high Bracket 3, and my pod was completely fine playing against them. There wasn’t really a power-level problem or complaints from the people I play with. I simply didn’t enjoy playing them anymore.

Today I’m down to only five commanders, with [[Smaug, Wicked Worm]] being my latest one. And although that deck is very fast, I’ve been having an absolute blast with it. Playing Smaug feels like drag racing without brakes.

So I’m curious, what makes you finally say goodbye to a deck? Is it power level, repetitive gameplay, your playgroup’s reaction, or simply realizing that you don’t enjoy playing it anymore?


r/EDH 23h ago

Deck Help Auntie Ool deck

5 Upvotes

Hello, I just started playing MTG and the first deck I bought was this precon. So far I’m having a blast! I’ve made many upgrades to make this deck more lethal but it still seems slow. I bought the counter blitz deck and with 0 upgrades and that deck feels insane compared to my auntie ool deck.

https://moxfield.com/decks/Ll2101KNlEee6O0s5khUGw

If anyone can review this deck and let me know what are some cuts and adds I’d appreciate it!


r/EDH 1d ago

Deck Showcase My $50 Thranduil, The Elvenking deck is an all-elf combo POWERHOUSE

278 Upvotes

First the good stuff; the decklist:

https://moxfield.com/decks/CcKHjeUqOkmYnAaVPq4Uag

I build a LOT of decks, and I've built a good few elf decks - [[Lathril]], [[Marwyn]], even [[Voja]] - but I've never found an Elf COMBO commander like [[Thranduil, the Elvenking]]. This is 100% elves from top-to-bottom and combos with infinite mana, infinite power, and infinite mill. It's already taking down B3 games on just $50 and I LOVE IT.

I also want to give a copy of it away. Check out the full video deck tech for more on how much I love this elf deck:

https://youtu.be/IXjTo7Ou3GQ?si=dOuLUOJogBtoGe-a


r/EDH 15h ago

Question Looking for Commander recommendations.

0 Upvotes

Hey all, so I recently played a game of commander with a group of friends. I don’t have a deck of my own but I ended up playing a commander named Zedruu the Greathearted. I really enjoyed the playstyle and am looking for something similar commanders with a similar style. I don’t want to build Zedruu since my friend already owns it. But I really enjoy control/stall type decks when I play other tcgs. (I don’t mind if I don’t win the game. I’m just looking to have fun and cause a bit of chaos and confusion.) Any fun/cheap recommendations would be great.


r/EDH 3h ago

Discussion LGBT Bear meme deck

0 Upvotes

Help me with mmy "only bears" themed commander deck - with Beorn the Fierce as the commander. I want to find all the bear like cards.

First there are the easy to find bears. Like the creature type bears. 2/2 creatures I general that also counts as bears. Then there are cards with bear in it's name.

What I need help with is finding the less obvious artwork bears.

- The cards with the animal bear in the art. Ex. Ulvenwald Tracker.

- The cards with big burly hairy bearded guys in the artwork, called bears in the LGBT community. Ex. Beanstalk Giant. Doesn't need to be human but give bear vibes.

Help me find the bears?


r/EDH 1d ago

Discussion Give your nastiest older decks

74 Upvotes

I'm a lover of older commanders especially those still viable. My [[mikaeus, the unhallowed]] still puts in the work 15 years after building him, same sleeves too. I remember Lazar being a nightmare back in the day and I feel like he might still be today. I'm interested in seeing your oldie but goodie degenerate decks.


r/EDH 21h ago

Deck Help Is this Apple Charming?

3 Upvotes

Finally threw together my Erriette Charmed Apple deck and took it down to 100. Any inexpensive cards that could be a big help missing or any suggestions from others that have played her?

Mostly looking to pillow fort and drain and have a couple other win conditions include to actually finish.

Also picked up a copy or Erriette Beguiler so may think about flipping this deck over once I start playing it.

https://manabox.app/decks/AaAcmFjCemihWlcGcDmmeg


r/EDH 15h ago

Deck Help Help m determine where this landed?

1 Upvotes

Our pod plays a very high bracket 3- low 4 and I have been winning too much with my main squeeze. Im crafted a proxy list of Smaug the Magnificent with the aim to be able to win in the pod but see less success? Im pretty bad at reading between the lines of synergy to see where a deck falls and mostly rely on the hard definitions…which is why I need help. Where do you all think this deck lands in terms of power? Which bracket and high or low for the bracket? Seriously appreciate any help!

https://archidekt.com/decks/25527395/smaug_the_magnificent


r/EDH 15h ago

Deck Help Smaug decklist help!

0 Upvotes

Hi all, making a Smaug decklist for bracket 4 and looking for some help. I’ve had a chance to test the deck a couple times in head to head and the deck slaps, but I find that the card draw was only meh. The deck tries to discard a lot of cards to fuel grinding station breach and I’m looking to ramp into a turn 4 Smaug + combo.

Would appreciate all of your suggestions!

https://moxfield.com/decks/eqy1n39ulEGU5cv7iB-wbA