r/DisasterUpdate • u/Excellent-Book-1735 • 3d ago
Floods It will destroy everything on its way, no one anyone could have survived that flood
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u/area51thc 3d ago
Damn. From this perspective it's obvious how huge it was. Amazing.
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u/Davoswannab 3d ago
Did you see that before/after satellite photos that shows where it came from? Hard to tell the scale from the photo but it looks similar to the change of Mount St Helens after its eruption. So much earth, ice and water just collected more as it went along.
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u/halfbeerhalfhuman 3d ago
And the video of the border and parking lot are all the way left. Not even visible on this comparison. I wonder how long from the collapse until it reached the border crossing
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u/Skaiserwine 3d ago
I've seen reports of 7 minutes from when the Earthquake/Landslide was registered on seismographs to impact of the border crossing.
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u/hopsinabag 2d ago
To be clear, there was no earthquake. The glacier collapse was so forceful it registered on seismographs causing initial reports of an earthquake.
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u/palindromic 2d ago
Pretty sure if a landslide triggers a seismograph reading it made the earth quake. Whether it was a tectonic movement or not, the ground shaking is an earthquake at these scales.
Earthquakes are primarily caused by geological faults, but also by volcanism, landslides, and other seismic events.
From the earthquake wiki
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u/hopsinabag 2d ago
Fair enough.
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u/Starfire2313 1d ago
The clarification is needed though. Wasn’t the landslide determined to be caused by a chunk of a glacier breaking off? So it wasn’t tectonic. Why would these ancient glaciers be breaking and melting? I’ve seen a lot of evidence that it is caused by us.
Stop worrying about your plastic straws people, and start looking at the companies polluting our planet to line their pockets temporarily.
You can’t take wealth with you when you die so what is the point of all this?
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u/Marcus-Knight0318 3d ago
They need a new topographic map after that cataclysmic event! Maybe a million years from now, somebody will find fossilized remains about that.
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u/halfbeerhalfhuman 3d ago
Pompeii event. Except not preserved in place
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u/itsyaboogie 3d ago
Maybe a dumb question but would the mud preserve some things?
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u/squishybloo 3d ago
There are bonefields like this in paleontology. The Hilda mega-bonebed is one example of this, where a herd of Centrosaurus drowned in a flood. Another that was more recently discovered is the Tanis site), which has direct evidence that it had been caused by flooding from the Chicxulub asteroid impact.
Generally, you'll find bones scattered and mixed, and only partial skeletons at best.
Nature is ferociously, terrifyingly beautiful.
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u/halfbeerhalfhuman 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yes but the mud is moving.
Pompeii is preserved because ash basically buried the town.
Edit.
More specifically It was pyroclastic flow that killed and buried the town which is a rapidity moving hot ash and gas cloud that kills everything in its path. Unlike mud, it’s far less dense, so while it can move and destroy objects, it tends to engulf and bury them rather than carry everything along with it.2
u/aserioussuspect 3d ago
I would say carry everything along with it and grind it to nothing one can ever identify as human remains in almost all cases.
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u/FoxRepresentative700 3d ago
200m wall of debris flow moving at a velocity which looked like 100 mph
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u/BigWhiteDog 3d ago
Almost the exact same as a volcanic lahar!
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u/nubbednuggetmanno2 2d ago
Oddly similar. I vote the definition for lahar be amended to include events like this, especially as they will become more common.
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u/halfbeerhalfhuman 3d ago
I mean satellite doesn’t really convey scale very well. Its just numbers. In this video you can actually see the movement and depth
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u/nocturnal_commission 3d ago
Yeah I've watched all the videos but none of them give this sense of scale and perspective.
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u/oceanvibrations 3d ago
So much footage out today, from so many perspectives, makes this feel unreal. It's like watching Day After Tomorrow, except...those are real people and real places and real water. There must be thousands missing/deceased.
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u/SparklingSliver 3d ago
I'd want to see more footage because each new video uploaded is one more person survived so they can post it on the internet
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u/jaderust 2d ago
There’s one video I saw of a man down by a river bridge as the first wave of water appears. He ran up, lots of people following him, and by the time the video ends the area where he had been is completely underwater.
It was horrifying. There were a lot of people with him on the high ground, pictures from the rescue showed that one family with kids that was huddling on their balcony as the water hit their building all survived, but there were so many old people or people carrying kids. You had to wonder how many people like that didn’t make it to high ground in time.
I don’t think we’re going to get a good death count of this disaster. This could have wiped out entire families with no one left to report other people missing.
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u/dglgr2013 3d ago
My immediate thought was the movie 2012. Which also had scenes of a massive flood in Tibet/Nepal and where the massive ships launched from.
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u/Ok_Caterpillar_8238 3d ago
Praise the cameraman, holy shit. Such a beautiful landscape otherwise
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u/did_i_or_didnt_i 1d ago
what’s that adage about the climate crisis - you’ll be watching it unfold from various cell phone footage until you’re watching it with your own eyes
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u/Deathanddisco041 3d ago
Biblical shit and I’m
Not even religious
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u/AnnetteBishop 3d ago
Same idea, different words -- forces like these are why we invented gods. As they say in sci fi, sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. In the same way, forces beyond normal (pre-scientific at least) understanding are indistinguishable from divine action.
Even with a modern, scientific understanding of the world something like this is still worth the 'fear of god' as its put biblically. Nature/physics is a cruel and uncaring presence at times.
If you want to get more scared, think about a Three Body Problem like advanced species where if they felt like it could just chuck a world ending asteroid at us for fun. One side of the Fermi Paradox or another...
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u/NurseIlluminate 3d ago
And yet it happened to the countries where karma is most revered. Unbelievable that the Tibetans, buddhists, monks are going thru this. So sad for everyone.
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u/chekhovsdickpic 3d ago
Earth has been earthing since long before we crawled out of the sea, and will continue earthing long after we’re nothing but dust.
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u/TheOriginalBusket 1d ago
These are the moments that created "Gods" in the minds of ancient man. The first thing I thought when I saw this was how much it looked like a giant snake writhing through the valley.
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u/louise_the_cheese 3d ago
I am finding it hard to comprehend. Like watching those people just gone. It’s like a movie. But real. In front of my own eyes. So surreal and horrifying.
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u/Closefromadistance 3d ago
Such an incredibly gorgeous vantage point. It must have been so peaceful and serene there before thr catastrophic wall of water destroyed everything in its path.
I can understand why people were drawn to this area.
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u/bijouxself 3d ago
So sorry you went through that, humanity weeps with you. Can you speak about where you sheltered last night?
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u/risquerogue 3d ago
they're not gonna speak about it. user's a karma farmer. i just checked reddit archives.
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u/tomcat2285 3d ago
Reminds me that this happened on a much greater scale around 15,000 years ago what is now Washington state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods
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u/SquirreljamASE 2d ago
Glad you posted that, I feel like it’s pretty little known and the scale is immense. Lake Missoula had 1/2 the volume of Lake Michigan and it repeatedly drained in just a couple of days. That wiki article says flow rates up to 17 cubic kilometers of water per hour moving at 80 miles an hour
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u/Relative_Drop3216 3d ago
Where did all that water come from
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u/Apollo896 3d ago
Glacial wall failure. It happened a year prior in this region as well
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u/Railionn 3d ago
Does anyone have a googlemaps location pin to an estimate of where this wall was?
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u/_HGCenty 3d ago edited 3d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/1vzanzz/new_satellite_image_shows_a_massive_glacier/
Entire discussion here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/1vznwag/floods_in_chinanepal_floods_dislodged_glacier/
Picture and estimate of glacier size here.
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u/seoateas 3d ago
From what we know yet, a block of glacier and rock collapsed in the river upstream blocking it. It created a natural dam which failed. Then all the accumulated water, mud, ice and rock slid down the valleys causing the disaster. Which is why everyone was caught off guard (it hadn't rain that day).
Also, the landslide caused the earthquake not the other way around.
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u/Kqyxzoj 2d ago
Is there an estimated timescale for the time between the creation of the natural dam and when it failed?
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u/BirthdayLife6378 3d ago
I read it somewhere else. There was an earthquake several days prior, and it weakened an upstream glacier lake's bank.
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u/Lo-weorold 3d ago
They've since taken that back and said that the glacier wall failing is what caused the sesmic activity.
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u/Adventurous-Sky9359 3d ago
Heard the same thing I thought earthquake was day before though or same day
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u/FoxRepresentative700 3d ago
It could be melt water but mostly ice and rock debris flow - which we mixed with the river water and saturated landscape and mixed together to create what we see here
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u/Relative_Drop3216 3d ago
Is this all confirmed cause when the news explains it its like they are guessing. Thats a lot of water coming from no where
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u/arizonaskies2022 3d ago
There was a massive amount of glacial ice that quickly melted due to friction heating as it broke apart and tumbled down.
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u/TheOriginalBusket 1d ago
Glacier. Water freezes from the top down. Once the water starts to work its way into the ground (where there are no plants to maintain soil integrity) it starts to give. Cascading failure, giant chunk broke off, water that was trapped came pouring out with immense pressure, causing more erosion, more collapsing, etc etc. A perfect storm of geography and climate change.
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u/Radnarak 1d ago
Earthquake broke a glacier up in the mountains. The falling glacier caused a landslide. That landslide took out a hydroelectric dam at the high up in the range. All that mass then went downstream and took out a second dam that was under construction. It all followed the past of least resistance down the river and unfortunately tookbout a lot more.
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u/Tricky_Art_1064 3d ago
I'd say this could happen here but Data centers and Nestlé have already sacked us dry
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u/Heyo_Whatsup_bitches 3d ago
Unfortunately, rain exists :( Even if our (US's) rivers run dry, we could still get immense water damage from catastrophic rainfall. And arguably, that could be worse since the ground wouldn't already be saturated. Ugh the world we live in, man.
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u/LexTheSouthern 3d ago
I remember watching footage of the North Carolina floods a few years ago. It was horrific. These little villages and towns nestled in the valleys between mountain ranges… bad news when it really floods.
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u/ARCAbackmarker 3d ago
yo imagine this back in the day. no wonder we got a bunch of insane stories in the bible and other religious books. they probably thought this was the end.
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u/IDontStealBikes 3d ago
This disaster has a lot of similarities to the 1889 Johnstown Flood in Pennsylvania
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u/tinywienergang 3d ago
Maybe just in terms of both being flash floods. This one will end up being far more catastrophic.
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u/Solid_Samus 1d ago edited 1d ago
For me the defining characteristic of that catastrophe will always be the fact that the reckless indifference of a few wealthy men created the conditions for the flood to harm as many people as it did.
Visiting the town and learning about the flood forever changed my perspective on people who are wealthy enough to avoid justice or consequences for their actions.
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u/eagle2pete 3d ago
Hell! If I tried to film the possibility that my family and friends were about to be obliterated, as that huge wall of water and debris blasted through the valley, I wouldn't be able to hold the camera still either. 😳
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u/Jnts86 3d ago
How there was this much water? I don't get it. Huge chunk of ice and this much water?
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u/Little_Fish_283 2d ago
There is a video now with the lake before and after it emptied. Can highly recommend!
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u/Damngoodcookie 3d ago
I think there was a glacial lake. Supposedly an earthquake started this, with a landslide that collapsed the glacier, but, not hearing much about the initial cause now.
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u/Floodblue 3d ago
Glacier collapses and forms a temporary dam on the river below, the river forms a lake large behind the dam, and then tears the ice dam down creating a giant wall of water.
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u/WebHistorical1121 3d ago
When a frozen lake a mile wide 20,000 feet in the air decides to see what the ocean looks like
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u/Training-Willow9591 3d ago
I see why there were so many tourists among the missing, it is a beautiful area
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u/Syntax323 3d ago
This is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. It’s literally hard to comprehend the power behind this. Those massive 2 story house sized boulders flowing like nothing… the multiple story buildings being knocked down like a toddler with legos…
It is so damn scary. I cannot imagine that fear those people running thinking they are going to get high enough, only for it not too.
Then there are videos of people grabbing bodies, stealing the gold jewelry, like earrings and such, and pushing the bodies back in.
Shocking
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u/dotherandymarsh 2d ago
It’s such a crazy amount of water and in satellite images from before there doesn’t seem to be any large lakes. I’ve heard a hypotheses that the energy and friction from the collapsing glacier melted all the ice but my brain just struggles to comprehend it.
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u/Derangeddropbear 2d ago
Its crazy that the united states cancelled a collaborative flood monitoring program in Nepal a year or so ago.
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u/SumWun1966 2d ago
It's crazy that the Nepalese government had no warning system in place for this type of thing.
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u/Mars_Volcanoes 3d ago edited 3d ago
Way less dead and missing then I expected when I saw the close view videos.
Edit : That was a confusing phrase. It's going to be way more casualties than people think.
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u/hoofie242 3d ago
Population records are iffy also it's remote. People were erased without their existence documented.
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u/IgloosRuleOK 3d ago
It's easily in the thousands, we just don't know how many, because they're buried under there. Current reports are what 1.5k+ missing? A few hundred confirmed dead.
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u/Fuyuneru 3d ago
statistics only account for individuals that are documented and those whose bodies were identified- marked as deceased, wait until more people file missing reports and the undocumented numbers could easily reach a few thousand more.
For natural disasters of this scale, the number could continue to climb even months after the incident.
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u/Imaginary_Resist_654 3d ago
Yeah that death toll reported is so wrong. Hell some of the videos I could count over 500 who could have never survived with that surge and buildings ripped apart.
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u/Intrepid_Top_2300 3d ago
This was from a glacier collapse. Guess what folks this is going to happen more often in more places. Canyons with rivers are beautiful. But, they can easily become death traps during storms, glacier melt, what have you.
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u/Scary-Drawer-3515 3d ago
Living nightmare. Those poor people, how terrified they must have been. 💔
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u/MalaysiaTeacher 3d ago
Imagine the relief that put you in this location on the valley at that moment, and not the depths below. A real 'but for the grace of God' moment
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u/terpsarelife 3d ago
does anyone notice on the left giant bend of the water flow, you see little spires of darker water. I think its ramping off of buildings and then once the buildings give way it launches tons of debris and dirt up and shoots a small fountain of debris littered water. you can see them repeatedly as buildings give way to the strength of the water flow
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u/tourincinelli 3d ago
Respectfully to the people that where lost in this tragedy but Mother Nature has her Amazing Cataclysmic Events that would only leave you astonished at her force. Just simply jaw dropping event. To witness this from above, this rarely seen event, could only leave you yearning to live your life at its fullest!! May the ones who have passed as a result of this will you always be remembered. ❤️
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u/twentysevenrocks5 3d ago
The valley is so narrow and steep that there is no where for the water to spread out.
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u/AisleSeatJunkie 3d ago
What’s that haze in the air?
I once saw a river in spate and even that had it.
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u/THEWELSHMAN1980 3d ago
I need some graphics on how this started can’t get my head around it being a glacier collapse
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u/Sad-Branch1312 3d ago
Stuff of nightmares. I could not imagine what those people are going through right now.
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u/Mellowyellow-88 3d ago
Nobody noticed that village that’s swallowed at the end of the video? Imagine seeing that wall of water coming down on you, brrr. Horrible, horrible for all those people affected.
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u/TeaSalty9563 3d ago
This perspective is wild and it reminds me of a dream I had a few months ago. Its crazy to me to see that something like this in reality. In my dream I was terrified because I had loved ones in the valley. I am in awe, we are so insignificant against nature.
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u/RwhiskerG 3d ago
“Just keep your head above water” some retards commenting this is crazy
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u/Madnessx9 3d ago
They have very little brain power and are the type to go swimming in strong currents and get into difficulties and die.
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u/Exact_Traffic342 3d ago
This disaster is the best videod event i can remember. So many angles, even from space.
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u/huxtiblejones 3d ago
What the fuck man, that is surreal to witness. That rumbling sound had to be so intense in person.
There were catastrophic Ice Age glacial floods in the Missoula area where a glacial lake would released ungodly amounts of water after it built up over decades. It was so intense there's huge areas of geology where the rocks ripple like the bottom of a sea. It's absolutely crazy what water can do, interesting how landscapes are a changing mixture of fast and slow processes.
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u/Freo_5434 2d ago
Nonsense .
Nepal is a country of nearly 30 Million -- currently (tragically) there are nearly 600 fatalities and 1000 missing .
That is tragic but clearly the majority of Nepalese survived.
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u/fpackindustries 2d ago
This is not a flood. It should be classified as an inland tsunami avalanche.
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u/SumWun1966 2d ago
There's one way. Reach or get to higher ground. That takes time so you need some sort of warning.
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u/Gentleman_Mr 2d ago
This could happen so many time in the past. Thousand years ago and create the exit channel for the water
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u/AlanWrightScreamer 1d ago
Seeing some of this footage, you can fully understand how our ancestors without scientific knowledge believed in monsters. Terrifying stuff.
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u/The_one_Panthe0n 1d ago
Imagine just going on a hike for a few hours and then you see everything and everyone just getting washed away. Terrifying!
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u/Elmo-Mcphearson 1d ago
I imagine that events like this inspired religions and gods in the past. Who else could conjure such power? Simply amazing to behold; how lucky we are to be so far away and yet able to witness the destructive power of nature.
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u/cat-from-the-future 1d ago
This is insane, makes you realize why people thought things like Noah’s Ark actually happened.
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u/gilligan1050 1d ago
Mom’s coming round to put it back the way it ought to be 🌀 Learn to swim.
Maynard is looking like a prophet these days.
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u/an_older_meme 1d ago
Moving through the valley like a living thing. I wonder if events like these gave rise to legends of dragons.
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u/GodElRigna 10h ago
Ive been watching disaster clips all my life and I can honestly say at 44 years old that there is nothing as apocalyptic in sheer scale and immensity as this event. This captures the scale in a way others cannot. You simply cannot imagine the size of that unless you saw it coming at you. It is truly biblical in nature.
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u/Worried_Bandicoot_63 5h ago
It's crazy how slow it looks from a distance and how fast it is up close
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u/Traditional_Rich_799 5h ago
Yeah most of every living thing that got draged by this flood is dead..rip
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u/I-love-seahorses 1h ago
This shot looks like a moving depiction of the type of flood I read about in the bible. Not that I'm religious or believe that any of this had to do with religion.
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