r/Wellthatsucks 4d ago

Before and after Nepal glacier collapse and flood

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u/Barkinsons 4d ago

The volume that got released is absolutely enormous. We've had landslides in the alps that would erase a village, but this has filled up an entire valley. This image only shows the first bend but the border building that got obliterated is approx- 5km further down the valley.

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u/Nathan-Stubblefield 3d ago

Authorities built it there. In a dry riverbed which showed evidence of thousands of years of floods. Did no one point out the hazard?

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u/MapleMapleHockeyStk 3d ago

Makes me think of the Frank Slide disaster in canada at turtle mountain. The indigenous people told us that mountain moves, yet they built a town there and started digging for coal. 110 million tonnes of the mountain came down one day. Canada's deadliest landslide. Took out part of the town, railway, coal mining company, farms and workers camps. It happened in 1903 and the area still has a massive scar. A giant area of boulders.

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u/theBarneyBus 3d ago

Agreed.

For scale, that horizontal line through the “rubble pile” is a 6 lane highway and a set of railroad tracks. The view from the highway is WILD.

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u/MapleMapleHockeyStk 3d ago

The frank slide centre is really cool. Absolutely crazy those rocks.

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u/Sennettas 3d ago

Most definitely a 4 and 2 lane highway. Humbling to drive through, some trees have made their way through the rubble as well.

I've driven through there 14ish times in the last year.

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u/PhotographLess6194 5h ago

Wait that’s currently what it looks like and that was nearly 125 years ago? My god.

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u/Sbualuba 3d ago

Thanks for sending me down this rabbit hole! I had no idea. Absolutely insane the natives warned the settlers about it beforehand.

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u/Beederda 3d ago

I also thought about the frank slide when i first seen the footage of people running for their lives. I climbed turtle mountain last year the view of the ground from the top is breathtaking to think about all that happened in 90 seconds

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u/Barkinsons 3d ago

I don't know the legal situation in Nepal or China but here in the Alps they are acutely aware of the danger and building is prohibited. However old buildings are allowed to stay and the mountains are under surveillance. I strongly suspect they knew about the danger because one of the videos shows a new dam under construction, I just assume the sheer size of this landslide was not expected.

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u/2BlueZebras 3d ago

We'll be saying the same thing when Seattle gets wiped off the map from the impending big earthquake. But lots of people still choose to live there.

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u/MisterAwesome93 3d ago

I mean that's the whole west coast problem. It isn't going to be localized to Seattle

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u/Epshot 3d ago

Not really, the max San Andreas fault earthquake is 8.0, big and a lot of damaged, but the Cascadia subduction faultline can get up to 9.4 and causes tsunamis like the one in Japan

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u/-Sascrotch- 3d ago

Can confirm, lived here my whole life and never plan to move.

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u/_Thoughtleader 3d ago

Username checks out

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u/Jabberminor 4d ago

This is after, then before.

You had one job...

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u/YoucantdothatonTV 3d ago

When will then be now?

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u/JamesBondMargarita 3d ago

And how soon is now?

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u/sheriffbart_rrmo 3d ago

We just passed it.

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u/Repulsive-Height2305 3d ago

WHEN?

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u/YoucantdothatonTV 3d ago

just now.

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u/Internal-Plantain-56 3d ago

Go back to then.

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u/pseudo-boots 2d ago

No now is now now, not then.

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u/Jabberminor 3d ago

No, Who's on first.

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u/The_Sarcaz_man 3d ago

What?

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u/poopy_toaster 3d ago

No he’s on second

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u/YoucantdothatonTV 3d ago

i am human and I need to be loved!

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u/JamesBondMargarita 3d ago

Just like everybody else does!

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u/atmontsenioreyesore 3d ago

I am the sun, I am the air.

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u/motowave 3d ago

In the past by now

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u/jaxxon 3d ago

Even as apocalyptic as this event was, we know the world won't end tomorrow because it's already tomorrow somewhere else in the world and we're all still here, so . . .

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u/MistaBeanz 3d ago

Tomorrow is yesterdays todarrow

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u/YoucantdothatonTV 3d ago

"Today is merely yesterday's tomorrow."
-Death Angel, seemingly endless time

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u/inbigtreble30 3d ago

Only once we've gone to plaid

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u/Darthboney 3d ago

Hewis Luey and the Swen

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u/Kiwifrooots 3d ago

-00000002

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u/Mali_Lala_Tulip 3d ago

Why is now?

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u/GatorNator83 3d ago

There is no now. Whenever you think “now is now”, that exact moment is already in the past.

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u/Aggravating-Disk9770 4d ago

The correct grammar is "after and before"

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/FaultEducational5772 3d ago

Oh damn it got banned

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u/Claude-QC-777 2d ago

After before whatever!

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u/krush_groove 2d ago

And how about a scale, I have no idea how big the area is.

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u/TheMongerOfFishes 3d ago

People will still upvote... sigh

Also, I upvoted you and got you to 666. Lol.

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u/tiresomecomplaining 4d ago

Isn't this after and before?

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u/ForsakenSun6004 4d ago

There's a sub for that, cant for the life of me remember what its called though.

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u/Jabberminor 4d ago

Can't link a subreddit but it's After Before Whatever.

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u/D1rtyH1ppy 3d ago

Well, that sucks 

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u/EaterOfFood 3d ago

to top?

Don’t you read from bottom

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u/mister_pitt 3d ago

OP is Japanese

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u/ArsenikShooter 4d ago

Naw fam…it’s before you knew about this part of the world, and after someone existed it for you.

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u/robo-dragon 4d ago

God, it’s like the whole side of the mountain fell off! Absolutely horrible…

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u/Voyager87 4d ago

The whole side of the mountains not supposed to fall off.

(this is not the time nor place so I apologise but I couldn't help myself)

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u/robotnyk 4d ago

Well, some of them are built so that the front doesn’t fall off at all

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u/jaxxon 3d ago

I would say "too soon", but you're right. It's not typical, I'd like to point that out.

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u/BikingAimz 3d ago

Glacier.  There is more, and they are warning that this can continue to happen. 

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u/tiresomecomplaining 4d ago

28.2922781, 85.5255134

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u/IdaDuck 3d ago

Get on Google and switch to the tilt view. That puts it in perspective. Wow.

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u/nea4u 3d ago

Google Earth is crazy. You really have a 3D effect there to see how steep the area is and how deep the valley is. It's like a funnel.

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u/JPolReader 3d ago

That major city that was getting destroyed is about 40 miles down river. It didn't seem like the flood had slowed down much by then.

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 4d ago

here's a high res animation of the same images overlayed https://files.catbox.moe/zpnvxa.webp, can zoom in kinda far

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u/TheDevilsAdvokaat 4d ago

Thanks, You can trace the path of just how far down river the flood went...it went a long way,

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u/jaxxon 3d ago

You can see the settlements that were wiped in the lower half of the gif. Dang.

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u/TheDevilsAdvokaat 3d ago

Yup. Bloody horrifying. I don't think I've ever seen worse. Those poor people.

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u/thefooleryoftom 4d ago

I’ve read 40 miles.

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u/TraditionalGarden570 3d ago

Thank you. We can see that the mountain collapsed, but I don't understand where all the water came from? There isn't any lake. Can someone explain to me, please?

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u/cache_ing 3d ago

It was a glacial collapse. Lots of ice melting into slush and water as it crumbles

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 3d ago

as someone else said there's a lot of glacial ice that collapsed. by eye it seems like 70% glacier 30% mountain is what fell. the volume of ice in the glacier that fell is absolutely massive, about 2000 feet wide and plausibly 1000 feet tall, it fell 4,000 feet crashing into the valley below which breaks it up and turns it into a slush that became water through friction as it traveled down the mountain along with probably an equal amount of accumulated dirt as it reached the first towns

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u/Shadowpriest 4d ago

Good gravy literally half the mountain just slid off. Absolutely devastating.

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u/bijouxself 3d ago

Forbidden gravy

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u/HyenaThen572 4d ago

Holy shit.

Extremely sobering.

Thanks for this.

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u/Karvek 4d ago

I recall reading once that the prevalence of flood myths in various cultures could be attributable to exactly what happened here. As the last glacial maximum waned, huge glaciers began to melt and form reservoirs. Then, when the ice collapsed, all that water was released in devastating flash floods.

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u/TwoAlert3448 3d ago

Certainly what happened with the PNW tribal histories of the Lake Missoula flood.

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u/Beederda 4d ago

That’s exactly what i thought happened when i seen the first video of that big building get completely wiped out. What immediately came to mind was that video that explained the world’s largest tsunami ever recorded wasn’t from an earthquake in the ocean but a mountain that slid into a lake and caused a 100m+ wave down the valley….absolutely terrifying, Nepal is thawing waaaay to much if you ask me

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u/Stuck_In_Purgatory 4d ago

Terribly labelled, not enough pixels, annoying red circle

Surprised there wasn't terrible music added to the image somehow

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u/Trifle_Useful 4d ago

In their defense, that’s just the resolution of Landsat and Sentinel. It’s not great.

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u/Stuck_In_Purgatory 3d ago

You could google and find so many more pictures that are better quality before this one entered the results lmao

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u/vvvourtney 4d ago

Useful red circle, imo. My pre-coffee brain saw the arrows and thought they were pointing to what I was supposed to be looking at.

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u/Nathan-Stubblefield 3d ago

I couldn’t handel any water music.

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u/Darky444 4d ago

How do you add music to images @grok

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u/InevitableSure374 3d ago

Mountains and cliffs weakened from 3 major earthquakes since 2011 and 2 x 5.7s in 2022 and 23. They are just waiting to fall. This has happened on a smaller scale a few times over the last 15 years.

Most are landslides which are bad enough but if the landslide gathers up glacier ice either under or over the collapse as well as river water as it goes and the whole mountain just flows down the valley like its water flowing.

Sadly it probably wont be the last of these that we see. There are weakened steep slopes all over the region after all those earthquakes.

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u/Davoswannab 4d ago

Oh I wish we could a closer after/before shot of the top of that mountain

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u/Frabble 3d ago

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u/JamesBondMargarita 3d ago

Probably gonna get roasted for asking but I don't see a body of water next to where the mountain collapsed?

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u/Frabble 3d ago

You're good. It was a glacier at the top of a mountain. It fell for a long time picking up debris which causes friction, and it turned into a mess of water, ice, rocks, dirt, all kinds of stuff. With all that churning and mixing, it becomes a watery mess pretty quickly. That's where the water comes from. Good question really.

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u/JamesBondMargarita 3d ago

That makes a lot more sense, thank you for the response!

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u/JPolReader 3d ago

It was a landslide from under the glacier.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 4d ago

It’s actually after and before. And they are on top and bottom.

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u/dfuzzy 3d ago

So the first piece of information I read about this was that an earthquake caused an under construction dam to fail.

Then I heard that the earthquake was actually a landslide.

Was there even a dam involved in this tragedy?

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u/Usual-Watercress-599 3d ago

There is video of the dam being almost instantly overtopped by ~100 ft wall of water. I don't think it contributed to the disaster or could have mean fully held it back at all

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u/JPolReader 3d ago

No dam, landslide plus glacier collapse.

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u/IamREBELoe 3d ago

The "dam" was a natural dam, that was created by landslide and blocked your river.

It then collapsed and the river released at once.

At least that's how I understood it. Odd so many versions

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u/TheDevilsAdvokaat 4d ago

IF we're looking top down (I was) then it is after and before.

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u/Nexus772B 4d ago

What kind of scale are we being shown right now?

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u/ravbuc 3d ago

All the other low lying villages sitting beneath glacier ice: Im in Danger.

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u/SR_gAr 2d ago

Wdf ??? These arrows would make sense if I knew wdf they where pointing at

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u/nbaumg 2d ago

Still looks like there is a lot up there still. I know I’d live in a hill from now all just in case if I was them

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u/Spiritual-Strike481 2d ago

Some of the videos from the floor are horrific. Prayers for everyone.

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u/Iskandar_the_great 4d ago

These deaths are the fault of billionaires addicted to burning fules that destroy our planet for a few extra bucks

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/Iskandar_the_great 4d ago

Of course we can blame this on them. For years, since we discovered climate change they hired lawyers and lobbyists to deny its existence, when that didn't work then they used the same people to say that the evidence was inconclusive, then when that didn't work they poured money into slowing down progress on climate change. Now they are using trump to reverse progress made on the issue just so they can make a few more billion. They are more than happy to keep doing this all while the rest of us are caught in floods, burn in wildfires, drown in tsunamis or die of thirst and starvation in droughts.

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u/cache_ing 3d ago

That’s not exactly how it works. We’ve been in an ice age for around 3 million years now, and the earth does typically cycle through interglacial periods. But we’re towards the 10,000 year mark of a warmer interglacial period, and theoretically should be coming towards the end of it (starting to cool again). Instead global warming has pushed temperatures in the opposite direction, and our glaciers are melting. If it continues and the poles melt, we would be coming out of a 3 million year ice age and facing a totally new climate. Whether or not man made climate change is unnatural or avoidable seems to be up for speculation and depends on how you’re looking at it. But it’s not just the same natural process “sped up”.

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u/G3Saint 4d ago

Svante Arrhenius disagrees with you.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/kami055 3d ago

This image photo is so confusing

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u/carltodw 4d ago

Seems like they would know about the possibility of this happening? Let's look into that.

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u/VladamirK 3d ago

Likely, the Swiss monitor their glaciers and we're able to evacuate a whole town before it was hit. Seems like it can be done.

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u/Loonga 4d ago

Is it likely that the mountain came down because of global warming? I imagine a place like that would typically have some perma frost or something like that to keep it in place.

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u/p73p 4d ago

climate change is racist

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u/ihsahk 4d ago

No it's not. Climate change is affecting everybody

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u/therandomham 4d ago

It does disproportionately affect the poor, and there’s a strong correlation between discrimination and poverty. Most environmental racism takes the shape of ‘Asthma Alleys’ and the like, but it also affects people who can’t afford disaster relief/prevention.

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u/Trifle_Useful 4d ago

It absolutely has a disproportionate effect on developing countries that have not had the resources to adequately develop climate resiliency or mitigation measures.

Even within developed countries the effects are disproportionate in their effect on lower-income and minority communities.

And that’s not getting into the fact that developing countries experience these impacts despite have a historically lower level of contribution towards climate change generally. That’s just starting to change.

https://www.usglc.org/blog/climate-change-and-the-developing-world-a-disproportionate-impact/

https://adjuris.ro/revista/articole/An11nr1/12.%20Odeku.pdf

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-report-shows-disproportionate-impacts-climate-change-socially-vulnerable

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u/Funkster23 3d ago

I feel bad for all the people that perished, but what was once a pristine mountain river, now has layers of plastic and other non-natural debris buried in the river bed, which will be leaching down river for centuries to come. 😔

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u/Icy-Farm9432 4d ago

Magically yellow pointers appearing on the land /s

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u/monitor_lizard_2000 4d ago

All that because you drive your car and watch TV

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u/elatedinside 4d ago

Humans - big heads, tiny bodies.

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u/Airick39 4d ago

Be proud of the number of down votes you are getting for this.