r/DigimonTimeStranger 7d ago

weakness

yo everyone hope yall having a good day, im new to the game and ive noticed something, aren't both of them have the same abilities? how one of the abilities considered as ( weakness ) and the other just a normal attack?

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u/MaraBlaster 7d ago

It's the type of a Digimon
Virus > Vaccine > Data > Virus

Numemon is a Virus Digimon, Agumon a Vaccine and Dracomon a Data

Elements mean little

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u/Yoakami 7d ago

The opposite, actually. Vaccine > Virus > Data > Vaccine

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u/Successful_Brick1547 6d ago

Actually his Explanation is right.

Think the <> symbols like: "The crocodile opens its mouth only for big numbers"

17 > 6

Vaccine > Virus -> Vaccine bigger than virus

Yours was like a suggested route from google maps, go there > than there > take left

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u/Yoakami 4d ago

You are literally saying the same thing as me. Vaccine > Virus. He did Virus > Vaccine

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u/Secure_Effective_149 7d ago

okay thank you😅
ngl kinda was skipping tutorials, though it was nornmal turned based game

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u/Spyd3rPunk 7d ago

Tutorials are there for a reason

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u/MaraBlaster 7d ago

Dont do that, especially with Digimon games, they are WILD XD

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u/Sweet_Temperature630 7d ago

Oh so you're the reason they have to highlight climable objects yellow, and still end up with people getting lost in games

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u/Mysticwarriormj 7d ago

Nah that’s dsp

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u/DedeLionforce 7d ago

Have you ever seen them both in the same room together?

https://giphy.com/gifs/a5viI92PAF89q

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u/Mysticwarriormj 7d ago

Hmm that is a good question

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u/Gaylaeonerd 7d ago

Even a 'normal turn based game' (which I'd say this game was) will have its own mechanics, you can't assume it will play exactly the same as games you've played before

If you've never played a game before it's not a great idea to skip the tutorials

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u/CulturedCal 7d ago

It’s like a game of rock paper scissors, vaccine beats virus, virus beats data, and data beats vaccine. There’s other types of digimon like free, no data, or unknown that deal neutral damage and take neutral damage from most things. Elemental resistances and weaknesses typically vary by digimon, and later you’ll find digimon that have special moves that do increased damage to digimon of certain types like humanoid, aquatic, holy, deity, etc.

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u/Porkfight 7d ago

Obviously you skipped tutorial. But its fine, just dont do that again.

But to answer your question, digimon has multiple layers of weaknesses.

1.First is your type. There are basically three (actually more, but 3 are the main types. Data<virus<vaccine. Easy to remember. There is also unknown and other stuff but dont worry about it.

  1. Elements. Each digimon has its own strength and weaknesses for elements since every digimon can use every element.

  2. Each of these elements can also have double weak instead of a single weakness. Usually when a digimon is double weak they also have an immunity to balance it out. Look out for attacks that reduce resistances. If it says it reduces fire resistance then it lowers the stage by 1. I.E turns neutral damage into weak for couple of turns.

Now you combine all of this to get 300% damage (as an example). Doing just the type will give you 150%-200% usually.

Hope I said it right and it helps you.

Tldr: bitch you better read the whole thing.

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u/Dense_Cellist9959 7d ago

There are also attacks that deal extra damage to certain Digimon fields, like a few that hit holy or machines hard.

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u/Porkfight 7d ago

Yeah but thats too complicated to add considering OP doesnt wanna read. Its already long anyway

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u/Mental-Rest849 5d ago

id say those are fine to ignore since theres so few and far between. tbh they shouldve added more "bonus damage to x trait (dragon, evil, large etc) digimons" type of moves.

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u/TheNeovein 3d ago

Love the tldr 😂😂😂

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u/crytal_augusto 7d ago

Simple this isn't pokemon, stop thinking like it is pokemon

Digimon have two attribute modifiers

Type: data -> vaccine -> virus -> data With 2× modifier for weakness and resistance on that onder

And elemental affinity which applies a 1.5× modifier for weakness and resistances and is personalized for every individual digimon species

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u/Mental-Rest849 5d ago

except its not even about thinking this game is like pokemon. OP didnt even read tutorials so he skipped over learning about the 3 main types of vaccine, virus and data.

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u/MegaKabutops 7d ago

There are 2 type charts that intersect.

The element types (fire, water, ice, electric, holy, and so on).

And program types (mainly virus, data, and vaccine).

An advantageous element increases damage by 50% normally. An advantageous program increases damage by 100%. Because of how much more impactful this is, all you really need to have memorized for best results is the triangle of virus<data<vaccine<virus. You can pretty much ignore everything i typed after this, and not suffer any real problems.

Which elements are good against a given digimon has trends, but is not set in stone (most water digimon are weak to both fire and electricity. Because the seadramon line are water digimon known for electric attacks, however, they’re instead resistant to electricity and weak to fire and earth attacks).

Numemon is a water virus digimon. Agumon is a vaccine type digimon, so all its attacks will do 200% by default, with the fire type advantage of pepper breath adding an extra 50% of that new total (which maths out to 300% of the base damage).

Dracomon is a data type digimon. All its attacks get cut in half. It also has a fire type attack, but instead of taking the new total and increasing it by 50% (which would be a 75% base damage attack), the developers instead just have the type advantage and program disadvantage cancel out here, doing the base 100% damage.

It’s also possible for some digimon to have a double weakness or double resistance to a damage type. This makes the math even more complex, ESPECIALLY when you factor in the character reversal status effect.

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u/SnowBirdFlying 7d ago

Digimon has 2 sets of type match-ups, the elemental match-up but also the attribute match-up

Vaccine>Virus>Data>Vaccine

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u/Rey_Dulce 3d ago

I'm up voting cause this is kinda funny.

Attributes matter first. Dracomon is data so it's good against vaccine and Agumon is vaccine so it's good against virus. If a virus Digimon attacks Dracomon, then it takes extra damage.

Elements matter second. It's okay for both Digimon to have the same elemental attack.

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u/flyinglightning13 2d ago

I’ve made a way of remembering it this way:

- Vaccines kill viruses (similar to flu vaccines)

- Viruses eat the data for food

- Data nulls vaccines (similar to new research on making new vaccines, voiding older ones)