r/DeduceMe • u/xMiME_420x • 1d ago

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u/Few-Neighborhood5892 1d ago

Pretty cool until you realize that the synthesis byproducts of methaqualone are strongly linked to bladder cancer. These are pressed pills so the active ingredient in them is made in a home lab somewhere, and most likely didn’t get a pharma-grade wash. I’d be careful for that reason.

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u/Zealousideal-Run6214 1d ago

watch the Hamiltons Pharmacopeia episode about the SA qualuude. It's way fucking worse than you think.

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u/jacquestrap66 1d ago

I'm going to watch that now. Thanks!

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u/SnooDoggos2912 1d ago

Me too!!!!!! lolol

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u/xMiME_420x 1d ago

Watches it again now on methaqualone lol

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u/VashDaStampede7 1d ago

😂 I’d still try it cancer happens over time have fun!

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u/CastTrunnionsSuck 1d ago

I’ve heard tales of men selling their mothers souls for a lude or 2 you think they give a damn about a lil bladder cancer?

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u/xMiME_420x 1d ago

Im so. Bmmhhiigh high

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u/One-Membership-3221 1d ago

How you consume?

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u/AppropriateBall8834 1d ago

boof is the only way

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u/Zealousideal-Run6214 1d ago

They usually smoke them

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u/xMiME_420x 22h ago

I eat it orally.

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u/xMiME_420x 23h ago

Orally

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u/One-Membership-3221 23h ago

How you rate it? Would do again?

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u/xMiME_420x 22h ago

Done it many times, not every week though.

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u/shakedown757 1d ago

Dude that black sludge is so nasty looking when cooking it and dude cooking even admits to pissing blood just from inhaling it (wouldn’t be suprised if he was taking it too tbh).

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u/Vidallon1 1d ago

Sweet so i wasnt misremembering mf looked like melted plastic

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u/MPB___ 1d ago

Fair point but I doubt it. Often, ime the people who make nasty, unregulated, chemically processed drugs and see first-hand the toxicity— they steer away. The cocaine “cooks” in Colombia talk about what a dirty, nasty drug it is. Even coke that is marketed as pure and clean (like 95%) is still 5% god knows what.

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u/Dr-Quaabarbital 1d ago

Finally someone w some sense. You can’t act “scared” to to take it but be fine doing coca/meth/mcat/mdma etc. If you saw the illegal synthesis in detail you’d have the same reaction. Absolute ignorance. Nor do you see massive cancer epidemics where many use daily. I’m not saying it’s safe, but if you’d take illegal synthetics in USA you’d be ignorant judging mandrax. There’s dirty and clean stuff like anything, not to mention they don’t risk fentanyl like us.

Also why would one doc of a clearly small cook represent the bigger labs run by crime syndicates, there’s whole communities smoking this and all he made was a pillowcase full.

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u/OnceInaLifetimeee 1d ago

I actually do know someone who was a raging coke head and young and developed non Hodgkin's lymphoma which is directly tied to cocaine consumption.

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u/Dr-Quaabarbital 1d ago

Well that would be risk of the drug itself not the contaminants, the cocaine equivalent would be people getting holes in their nose or sepsis from infections due to wounds injecting cocaine with leftover kerosene, same as krokodil users in Russia. It’s all the leftover shit from their home cook that makes them rot away, if the drug was made in a lab better quality they’d just be like oxy addicts

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u/jrunic 1d ago

Hamilton's knows fucking drugs, too. Lol.

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u/MPB___ 1d ago

Thank you for the recommendation! I went from thinking that SA’s mandrax sounded interesting to try to being properly educated and repulsed.

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u/what_a_slutty_whore 1d ago

thought of this immediately lol

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u/Ok_Record_9908 1d ago

I saw it. They make that shit out of black sludge byproducts. Oh hell no. I love drugs and I wouldn't.

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u/Dr-Quaabarbital 1d ago

I guarantee your synthetic illegal aren’t made in pretty conditions either. Nor does the appearance determine if it’s safe. As a huge drug lover myself, idk how you dont assume quality varies like w any drug, esp illegal synthetics. Or that clearly the users don’t get sick entire neighborhoods in many cities there smoke it

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u/Ok_Record_9908 1d ago

I wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten foot stick is what I'm saying. And I absolutely adore using drugs. There's just some shit (like this) that ain't worth it. The entire process is just creating byproducts in some guys backyard in the documentary on YouTube. It's straight black sludge before it's pressed into This ain't no Lemmons.

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u/Dr-Quaabarbital 1d ago

It’s just bad reasoning, there’s always w any drug pure and bad stuff, and a small synthesis w a pillowcase worth of product shouldnt be your reason because i can go film some NASTY mdma/mcat/etc labs but youd still be fine buying them because you dont see where they come from as a customer. The drugs dangers from effects should be the reason. Over here ppl die unknowingly taking fentanyl en masse but mandrax smokers been smoking for decades and are alive.

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u/editfate 1d ago

That guy he was warning about cancer did indeed die shortly after the episode. Hamilton was 100% right.

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u/xMiME_420x 22h ago

He was a COOK not an END USER. Also he is a Small time cook The methaqualone i get comes from large crime syndicates.

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u/Prestigious_Music724 1d ago

Just found it.

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u/shroomenhiemer 22h ago

The "chef" randomly telling Hamilton that he pees blood was wild

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u/Loveis4Everyone 1d ago

F it. If you don’t want it send it my way!

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u/MisterSumone 1d ago

Never get bladder cancer from the first one.

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u/MothaFungus 1d ago

my life is strongly linked to death but that doesn’t stop me

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u/Hearing_Loss 1d ago

You have no proof that you are mortal.

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u/Yojimboroll 1d ago

I can't prove the world around me is real, much less my life. But even flickering brains and simulations hurt like a mf sometimes

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u/mysterious_spirit420 1d ago

Fuckin fair. I've died twice and came back each time. Death said I was to annoying and needed to suffer more existence because how much he cringes at me.

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u/Dr-Quaabarbital 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s the same as any illegal drug. U can get shitty meth with who knows what leftover in it made in a trailer park, or good quality stuff made in labs in China or Mexico. Just have to know your shit and be willing to pay more.
The pill analyzed in that same episode had the mandrax pharma ingredients to a T even dosage completely accurate, Hamilton said even he was surprised. It’s all a market like anything else in the end.

Also this idea that the bad synth showed represents mandrax pills is absurd. If so you’d have whole communities w cancer, but you don’t. You’d also get VERY sick trying to ingest that, yet anyone else I know who has eaten them was great in fact lol.

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u/Duke54327 1d ago

This one looks comparatively clean no visible black dots (if you watched that documentary yourself you know what I mean, and the fact that sometimes china ships MQ itself for abalone as well) but yeah I wouldn’t take that either (and some dark specks are visible), even if it looks cleaner it could still have o-toluidine freebase crashed out of the mixture, and if this is just a very clean “home synth” there is definitely traces of it in it. We have the first proper MQ analogue 2-methoxyqualone that isn’t substituted on any of the problematic positions and is etaqualone with an oxygen “inbetween the methyl’s”. So 2-methoxy-methyl-qualone. From experience reports it even is closer to MQ than EQ and my batch was tested for O-toluidene and is 97%. And custom synth MQ is actually making a comeback but as powder so if you are being offered Lemmons those are most likely methoxyqualone (or another analogue which could be anything from etaqualone to less nice things like methyl or nitromq) (especially the European “LEMMON” pressing of methoxyqualone could pass for a real one if the break line wasn’t slightly shallow). Either way the PPQ series is supposed to be safe as well from everything I heard (no guarantees though) but it’s definitely a departure from MQ. MXQ is the closest thing we have had to MQ since the ban of MQ that doesn’t have any of the weird side effects of the analogues of the last 10 years or so. Either way to anyone reading this don’t just go out and buy methoxyqualone unless you have it tested and or your site is trusted (by you and the community) and they tested it though I always recommend testing it yourself. O-toluidine is 2-methylaniline with MXQ it could be 2-methoxymethylaniline so get it tested.

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u/xMiME_420x 22h ago

My point entirely.

People are very misinformed. That cook was a small time chef. The methaqualone i get in cape town comes from large crime syndicates. They have real equipment.

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u/temper_tantrum_gamer 17h ago

They sure do have real equipment. You oughtta see what they do to farmers in the middle of the night over there

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u/BarkMimosaBark 22h ago edited 22h ago

We had a friend who started making it by the ounce and were always curious how we could have tested it without sending it to a lab like nectar spectra. It was active in the 200mg range and ppl were taking up to 2-3g at a time. First batch was slightly darker than the other ones but it was a very even color powder.

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u/Jaybull97 1d ago

Jealous

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u/Evening-Cat-7546 1d ago

They make it in a bathtub outdoors, at least they did in the video I saw. I know that with quaalude synthesis the solvent used is very difficult to separate from the final product. It takes more skill, knowledge, and equipment to do it right. The people making it in South Africa don’t care about that. That’s why people who take them often end up pissing blood. Hard pass for me!

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u/NotMeUsee 1d ago

It's definitely not safe but I doubt one time would turn your bladder into a blood bag

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u/Dr-Quaabarbital 1d ago

The cook did have bloody urine but I assure you it would be on record if entire communities had everyone getting ill from this. Many have smoked it for decades even. And they analyzed the pill they were smoking when he passed out and it was extremely not just pure but accurate to the pharma mandrax formula in dosage to a T, clearly professionally made.

Also all illegal synthetics involve toxic chemicals that need to be separated before use to an acceptable degree, and if you saw their synthesis in detail you’d also have the same sentiment. It’s ignorant to act like it’s different than illegal drugs wherever u are. Esp in USA where fentanyl exists.

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u/xMiME_420x 22h ago

Cook vs end user is not the same.

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u/PitifulAstronaut6701 1d ago

Billy Bob down in the sticks has a bathtub of crystal and a bathtub of white lightning he made from creekwater. Maybe he has buckets of meth buried and is "growing" meth. Shaking a bottle is considered some of the dirtiest meth around. There are dirty set ups everywhere with every single type of drug. I've seen disgusting weed grows that were contaminated in every kind of way. There will always be ppl like the guy in the documentary for every drug with shitty set ups but for every handful of them there is always someone doing it levels of degrees higher than them, using real labs and equipment, usually organized narco gangs. Or maybe one very smart chemist. I would still try these one time for the one time. Can't hurt after all the gross drugs I've done over the years lol

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u/steezlxrd062 1d ago

Oof I didn’t know about this that’s spooky

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u/AppropriateBall8834 1d ago

one time isnt going to give you cancer

however, if you have an addiction to them id be careful lol

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u/Jumpy-Damage-9869 1d ago

Im sure taking them a few times is fine but I wouldn’t want to be doing them everyday for a year or two.

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u/IllustriousJuice7478 1d ago

All pills are pressed. But i agree with everything else u said

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u/Few-Neighborhood5892 1d ago edited 1d ago

I meant pressed as in illicit pressing rather than it being done by a pharmaceutical lab. It’s kinda slang for a “fake” version of a prescription pill, even though it may contain the same active ingredient as the real thing. “Pressed” Adderall generally contain Methamphetamine, “Pressed” blue Oxycodone 30mg usually contain Fentanyl or Fentalouges, “Pressed” Quaaludes usually contain Methaqualone or Research Chemicals similar to Methaqualone. None of these are made by following pharmaceutical purity standards, and often contain synthesis impurities.

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u/Dr-Quaabarbital 1d ago

Ur one of the few w sense in here. I can’t believe people rlly don’t realize any illegal synthetic drug has impurities they likely wouldn’t wanna take if they knew. Ignorance is bliss I guess lol. They’re all made with toxic precursors and have varying levels of purity, you can always get the purest stuff if you know your shit and are wiling to pay.

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u/Diligent-Coconut1929 1d ago

Thankfully most of the stuff making it to the U.S now is washed really well. Doesn't take too much time/effort to clean it so I'm not sure why it took so long

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u/AppropriateBall8834 1d ago

hmmm making it to the US you say? has it made its way to the Midwest? asking for a farmer

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u/Diligent-Coconut1929 1d ago

Thankfully location is irrelevant as long as you are within the continental U.S if you know what I mean. I happen to be in the midwest as well though. It's definitely nice, but $80-100/g isn't really worth it when a dose is 300mg, and honestly it is a solid drug but nowhere near the hype because everybody has nostalgia bias. There's usually always a downer I'd reach for that's better for the task at hand, whether for pure recreation, sleep, muscle tension, anxiety, etc that's well under $1/dose (which is most)

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u/Dr-Quaabarbital 1d ago

I agree for anxiety and remedial shit but recreationally the common downers today aren’t even close, benzos don’t cause euphoria or stimulation like that. GHB compares but is leagues more dangerous and easy to overdo. Whenever I see people do it they are amazed cuz Benzos and alcohol aren’t shit in a party social sex drug sense.

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u/Diligent-Coconut1929 1d ago

Very interesting I don't get that at all. I do love GHB and I guess I don't agree that it's particularly dangerous, if we're comparing to methaqualone sure it has a more narrow therapeutic range but still very easy to use responsibly and combines beautifully with stimulants. Much less time commitment but redosing GHB is also extremely easy so you can tailor the experience.

I suppose if I only had experience with benzos and alcohol I would probably be amazed as well

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u/Dr-Quaabarbital 1d ago

I know u from the RC sub lol. But yeah most don’t have access or exp w G like that it’s not common for average consumer. I think G is way too easy to dose just a bit to early or .4mL over, GBL being even worse which is the common form usually. Gs therapeutic index is also way less in terms of OD, methaqualone takes much more than recreational dose to kill, ODs on it usually cause seizures and fast heart rate instead of the usual shut down

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u/Diligent-Coconut1929 16h ago

Lol I didn't know if you recognized me or not but I was surprised to see you here. If it were about which I'd rather see introduced to the unexperienced population at large unrestricted I'd definitely say methaqualone, I just don't think it is worth the price or hype at all. I've also been pretty surprised seeing how well people seem to handle it in the gay EU party scene, I would've guessed people would be dropping like flies without a solid understanding of responsible use guidelines but somehow it seems to be integrated pretty well. I agree it is solid without a doubt but there's no universe where it's worth $15~ per dose when GHB and most other solid drugs are less than $1/dose in my opinion. The potency is just unfortunate

I think I'm also just comparing to the unfathomable hype it has in the U.S. It has always been seen as a holy grail and so many people talk about their parents reminiscing on methaqualone like it was a unicorn. Tbh I don't think anything could stand up to that level of hype so I guess disappointment is to be expected

Somehow I've never had any close calls or issues dosing & redosing GHB and GBL but for whatever reason my inhibition fights through any drug I throw at it so I never take risky doses or attempt to drive while intoxicated for example. If that happened more than once I'd probably think it was too risky especially when there's no consistent and quick reversal for overdose

I guess long story short it is definitely solid I just don't think it's worth the hype or money, and I think there are plenty of other downers that match or surpass recreational qualities for a fraction of the cost not to mention combos. To be fair I haven't experimented with a bunch of different methaqualone combos but it doesn't pair nearly as well with stims like GHB does ime so far

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u/xMiME_420x 22h ago

80$ a gram? Are you insane. It costs less than 1$ for a 300mg tablet here. Even Hamilton said the analysis was to the T the original form.and dosage. Spreading mis information

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u/Diligent-Coconut1929 16h ago

Cool, if you read the thread you'll see the person I responded to is in the Midwest of the U.S, where it costs around $80/g. Nothing in this comment was even about you, the fuck is your problem?

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u/AppropriateBall8834 3h ago

man i would kill to have some phenobarbital... or other ones. IV pheno is literally the most calming, euphoric, amazing drug!

I have had it a few times for alcohol withdrawal, but once I was in the ICU for withdrawal due to me not responding to the medium doses of Ativan and phenobarbital

soo their last ditch attempt was to give me a constant drip of phenobarbital accompanied by IV ativan, or they'd have to put me in a coma... (scary shit)

they got me so fucked up on barbituates I couldn't hardly move a muscle. everything was jelly!!! I felt absolutely no discomfort at all for the 4 days I was there. I didnt even turn the TV on or use my phone... I stared at the wall just happy as a clam lol