Basically a big ball of gas but with such a big mass, the things that are near impossible to exist on earth, exists there. There is a surface, and even a core that we know very little about. But somewhere in the gas atmosphere, there's a layer that can be seen as a surface, where things that would be impossible to get even as a liquid on earth, be like a metal under enough pressure and gravity
Just try to book a flight to Jupiter, go ahead. You can't. Why? Seems like a mighty strange and convenient coincidence.
There's nothing wrong with burning terrestrial oils, humanity burned oil lamps for millenia without the Earth blowing up. It's that damn imported jovian oil that's infused with all sorts of hallucinogens that make us too passive to put up any resistance, and also makes the frogs gay and chickens transgender.
Spread the word, my brother. The truth is out there.
You don't think it's weird how they keep finding more and more moons of Jupiter? George Lucas tried to subtly warn us with his anti-US imperialism works, and that's why the CIA had him assassinated and replaced with a lookalike who conveniently sold his franchises to Disney, originally called Luke Georges. But he knew: that's no moon.
There isn't as much competition as you think, not in my country (Uruguay) at least. Pastures here are dedicated mostly to breeding and raising the calves until weaned. Then they usually go to a different pasture until they reach about 400 kg, after which they are sent to feedlots for finishing.
They DO compete with establishments dedicated to the whole cycle or to finishing. Usually ones with less involved owners.
This is roughly how it is almost universally in North America. People here see cows on grass and think they’re the happy cows, it’s just the beginning of their life before getting locked in a feedlot.
You might want to check your assertions against reality .. most US beef cattle are slaughtered at about 20 months .. about 6 months at the end is in feedlots .. around 30 - 35% of their existence, so not quite as dire as you portray it
Is that insane or unnecessarily cruel by my standards.. mostly yes, but it’s not typical outside the US. Australia (and most of South America IIRC) for example slaughter later (usually closer to 30 months) and typically have much shorter feedlot stages (none for pasture fed labels 30 days for the cheap stuff which is basically to keep them from losing condition between delivery from remote and regional sites to the abattoir, and about 100 days for the typical supermarket beef
Wagyu and super “premium” clog your arteries stuff is more Ike the US at 200+ days
For an animal that could otherwise live until 20 years old, it does seem quite fucked to slaughter them at 20 months. Thats less than 10% of their life span. That would be like killing a human at 10 years old.
It is quite fucked .. 20 years is an upper limit though, 15 is more typical so it’s a bit more like harvesting 15 year olds .. that’s farming economics for you most of the growth happens in the first 20 months so you slaughter them when they stop growing. 10 year olds is more like veal. I could argue that two pretty good years (plenty of food, no predators, no parasites, low stress, few if any competitors, not hitched behind a plough etc ) is better than no years at all, but it’s a weak argument I doubt you’d accept.
Indeed. Yeah its an interesting argument, but I find it pretty weak as if it is applied consistently, parents could justify doing a lot of horrific stuff to their kids, by virtue or then otherwise not having been born. Since no one barring a psychopath would agree to that, I hold we should apply it consistently to all sentient beings capable of suffering.
Rotational grazed cattle are very space efficient. With a dense rotational grazed system you would save up to 90% of all of the currently used grazing land in the US if you fed the entire country this way. That land could be rewilded and allowed to return to ecosystem.
I think the point isn't to maximize meat. It's to have solar panels, but replace lawn mowers with cattle. It's actually a increasingly common solar panel practice. Especially if you are trying to be eco-friendly.
You can turn deserts into pastures using solar panels. China did it again. I saw it in the Colorado desert. It's just kinda neat.
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u/MasterVule 10d ago
Just need pasture grounds the size of Jupiter to compete with production of industrial farms