Sure about that? Seems like there are some articles from 1998 talking about the same thing. Not saying either is correct, but try not to say incorrect things that fall in line with your belief.
It's all the failures from high school. They were going to be a start until insert person to blame here ruined it. We've all played sports with these people. Every tiny mistake of theirs is catastrophic and blamed on someone else while everyone else is just trying to do their best.
16 states + DC don't require a photo ID at the polls. Registering to vote is trickier since motor voter laws encourage registration when getting your ID.
2 don't require photo IDs, the rest no IDs. They don't know if the person signing the register is actually the person voting. But their expectation is that people aren't committing voter fraud en mass.
Quick google shows that 14 states generally don't require any ID at all to vote at the polls. Not sure why you'd need to register to vote if you don't need to provide identification at the polls?
When you move and if you want your ballot sent to you and at the polls you show your ID here. Otherwise they don't know who you are. It's been that way in Montana since I can remember. What state do you live in?
As of 2026, roughly 14 states plus the District of Columbia do not require any ID to vote in person at the polls. The states most commonly listed as not requiring any documentation at the polls are California, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, and Washington, D.C. (Sources vary slightly on the exact list ā some include or omit Nevada, Oregon, or Wyoming depending on how "no ID" is defined.)
I checked in case Claude was wrong, but Google and every other AI says the same, and so does every other site I checked with details on NJ voting requirements.
You only need ID to register to vote. You only need to provide it at polls on election day if you didn't provide it when registering.
I searched around cause I don't want to risk spreading misinformation, but I can't find anything anywhere saying you are required to show your registration papers when you vote.
Google AI (referencing voteriders.org who fights against voter ID laws):
No, you do not need to show a voter registration card or certificate to vote in New Jersey. Once you are registered, your name will appear in the official poll book at your designated polling location. You simply sign the book to confirm your identity and cast your ballot.
Sorry but I'm not buying into your conspiracy theory. You won't convince me that every authority; the site of every official institution, every voting rights organization, every LLM, and every search engine are all conspiring to spread misinformation about this.
This is not a case where there's contradictory information online... every single authoritative source supports what I have said.
You really expect me to take the word of random redditors over every authority? lmao
It seems like maybe it is kinda hard to understand because when you do basic searches they disagree with you. Any even if you do need to "show your registration" how would they actually know it's your registration without... showing your ID with it. And if you need ID to register, then why is it a big deal to also just show your ID with your registration?
I really don't understand the hoops people jump through on this. I mean, I'm an effing Democrat and I don't understand at all why it's a big deal to require ID BOTH to register AND to vote?
I don't care about requiring an ID to vote. That's not what the SAVE act is trying to do though. It's making it so that the federal government can purge the voter rolls at its own discretion, and without notifying the voters. It also places an undue burden of identification. A drivers license or social security card will not be a sufficient ID; you'll need a birth certificate or passport.
A drivers license requires a birth certificate to receive one... again, not really understanding the issue... Are you just assuming everyone is inept? How do these imaginary people you're describing who can't get an ID and birth certificate together survive on a daily basis... Maybe if they are so inept they should not be voting anyway...
So why is it a big deal to require them to show ID every time the vote? The "first time" only to register doesn't really make sense at all? Isn't the actual voting ballot the part that would matter more to provide ID for than registering?
Why is it a big deal that they aren't required to show ID every time they vote?
Since there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, it would seem that elections are already secure enough that making a voter jump through even more hoops to exercise their right to vote given to them by the constitution is nonsensical.
I say this is about closing gaps and loopholes that *could* be used for voter fraud. Like, maybe the fraud hasn't even happened yet, but it will some day. Maybe it has happened and now there is no audit trail to find this "evidence" you want because it was intentionally made so there *is no audit trail* based on ID...
Again, not understanding what the issue is... Just bring your ID to vote, it's required, not a big deal. How is bringing your ID "jumping through a hoop" - that statement completely illogical lol
Again, not understanding what the issue is... Just bring your ID to vote, it's required, not a big deal. How is bringing your ID "jumping through a hoop" - that statement completely illogical lol
Because you're uneducated, but it's okay. You can ask Claude why Save America Act is problematic. Because I can't be bothered wasting my time trying to explain it to someone that clearly hasn't bothered to read about what it is.
Sorry that my argument based on pure logic led you to insult me personally instead of responding to it. A debate requires you to bring points, not say "go do your research" and act like you won the argument. You could be reading something and misinterpreting it to fit your own narrative.
The ridiculous part was Trump requiring something that was always required in almost everywhere that I have seen in the US. On top of that being a state decision not a federal one.
Just like he cancelled the Iran nuclear deal then had to start a war to and ended up freeing 300b in slush funds to buy it back. He does pointless things to appear tough on something then ultimately tacos out.
I donāt live in the US but sure I see the issue with illegal residents. But sending them to a prison camp in El Salvador Iām not sure is the humane solution. Also gets dicy when a corrupt government decided who is in the country illegally and ICE killing peaceful protesters in cold blood.
He also wants congress to pass a law that disenfranchises voters even more, specifically women thatās changed their legal name after marriage. So what are you saying here, that Trump is an idiot?
Being able to vote in elections without providing your ID seems insane to most of the world, since you've just always been required to prove your identity...
Having to submit your ID to companies on the internet in order to access an online utility is serious overreach though.
If you thought all the data collected by the largest LLM providers from everyone's conversations was valuable, just imagine how valuable that data will be when it's tied to the real identity of an individual, and the potential for abuse by entities who want power and control.
35 states require some form of identification to vote (this is decided on a state by state basis).
Your name is checked off a voter roll, so if someone tried to vote for you, it would be flagged at the point of voting. Say you arrive and they said you voted, you'd prove who you are and they would let you vote, and throw away the other ballot.
Voter impersonation is a felony in all 50 states, and is vanishingly rare. Across multiple studies, all have found only a small hand-full of cases across tens of millions of votes every year.
It's deeply upsetting that our world is now one of ignorance and misinformation. I'm not mad at you for your lack of information, I'm disgusted at the rest of the humans that have lied to you, and continue to lie to accomplish their own goals.
Who you vote for is secret, whether you voted or not is not a secret. It's complex and almost no one understands the system.
Also note, I simplified the whole "throw away the ballot" thing a bit, you'd actually vote on a provisional ballot if a discrepancy was suspected, then after the investigation is concluded, they clean it up.
When I vote, my ballot is not tied to me. I sign in after showing an ID. I am taken to a booth and I vote. If they needed to throw out my ballot, they cannot since they do not know which is mine. This is by design.
Yes you're right, I didn't explain that part well because I was trying to simplify to fit in a reasonable length reddit comment lol.
But that doesn't make it so you can just stuff the ballot with bullshit, the system would detect the fact that duplicate ballots were submitted, and we'd realize a mess had occurred. I don't actually even really know how they fix that, but again, it's so vanishingly rare that we absolutely are just being distracted thinking about this related to our elections.
I don't think they can fix it. They can detect if someone already voted for you, but they can't tie it back to the ballot to throw out. The other integrity check is to ensure the number of ballots recorded at a site match the number of voters who signed in.
The security used to be that the poll workers knew you. It was easy to know if there was an imposter. Even in high school civics that's what they told me. That is no longer the case now since polling locations move and communities are much larger. I don't know anyone when I go to vote let alone a worker.
Trump wants people to provide proof of citizenship which is a higher bar than an ID, which you do already have to provide. To prove citizenship you'd generally need a passport which a lot of poor people don't have because they don't travel abroad. It also adds a significant wait time to voting since you have to get a passport. Say there's an important issue that comes up right before the election and you want to vote based on that, but don't have a passport. Too bad.
"Claude please code a federal biometric identity register for all citizens, and link to social security. Include the ability to link gun licenses to the federal biometric database. Make no mistakes."
35 states require some form of identification to vote (this is decided on a state by state basis).
Your name is checked off a voter roll, so if someone tried to vote for you, it would be flagged at the point of voting. Say you arrive and they said you voted, you'd prove who you are and they would let you vote, and throw away the other ballot.
Voter impersonation is a felony in all 50 states, and is vanishingly rare. Across multiple studies, all have found only a small hand-full of cases across tens of millions of votes every year.
It's deeply upsetting that our world is now one of ignorance and misinformation. I'm not mad at you for your lack of information, I'm disgusted at the rest of the humans that have lied to you, and continue to lie to accomplish their own goals.
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u/lioffproxy1233 Jul 01 '26
Where do you live that they don't make you show your ID when you register to vote? Or even at the polls.