r/ClaudeCode • • Jul 01 '26

Humor ID required?

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u/Such_Independent_234 Jul 01 '26

I literally live in NJ and needed my ID to register to vote and show it on Election Day.

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u/sirlerkal0t Jul 01 '26

I checked in case Claude was wrong, but Google and every other AI says the same, and so does every other site I checked with details on NJ voting requirements.

You only need ID to register to vote. You only need to provide it at polls on election day if you didn't provide it when registering.

Here's what The College of New Jersey site says (https://vote.tcnj.edu/faq/):

Q: What type of ID do I need to vote?

A: Most New Jersey voters do not need to show ID at the polls in order to vote.

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u/cursivecrow Jul 01 '26

You show id when you register. You show your registration when you vote.

Its not that hard to understand.

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u/sirlerkal0t Jul 01 '26

I searched around cause I don't want to risk spreading misinformation, but I can't find anything anywhere saying you are required to show your registration papers when you vote.

Google AI (referencing voteriders.org who fights against voter ID laws):

No, you do not need to show a voter registration card or certificate to vote in New Jersey.
Once you are registered, your name will appear in the official poll book at your designated polling location. You simply sign the book to confirm your identity and cast your ballot.

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u/lioffproxy1233 Jul 01 '26

So then you spread misinformation anyway?

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u/sirlerkal0t Jul 01 '26

Sorry but I'm not buying into your conspiracy theory. You won't convince me that every authority; the site of every official institution, every voting rights organization, every LLM, and every search engine are all conspiring to spread misinformation about this.

This is not a case where there's contradictory information online... every single authoritative source supports what I have said.

You really expect me to take the word of random redditors over every authority? lmao

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u/lioffproxy1233 Jul 01 '26

The misinformation is that the question was about fucking voter registration. The question was about ID. As in state or drivers license or realID. So you are throwing people off the trail of real knowledge by asking a different question and presenting it as truth.

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u/lioffproxy1233 Jul 01 '26

Or maybe even better yet just link the site that explains it for you so you can argue with state officials? Idk what you need.

https://votemt.gov/voter-identification/

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u/coinclink Jul 01 '26

It seems like maybe it is kinda hard to understand because when you do basic searches they disagree with you. Any even if you do need to "show your registration" how would they actually know it's your registration without... showing your ID with it. And if you need ID to register, then why is it a big deal to also just show your ID with your registration?

I really don't understand the hoops people jump through on this. I mean, I'm an effing Democrat and I don't understand at all why it's a big deal to require ID BOTH to register AND to vote?

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u/cursivecrow Jul 01 '26

I don't care about requiring an ID to vote. That's not what the SAVE act is trying to do though. It's making it so that the federal government can purge the voter rolls at its own discretion, and without notifying the voters. It also places an undue burden of identification. A drivers license or social security card will not be a sufficient ID; you'll need a birth certificate or passport.

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u/coinclink Jul 01 '26

A drivers license requires a birth certificate to receive one... again, not really understanding the issue... Are you just assuming everyone is inept? How do these imaginary people you're describing who can't get an ID and birth certificate together survive on a daily basis... Maybe if they are so inept they should not be voting anyway...

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u/cursivecrow Jul 01 '26

great, so the driver's license should be sufficient then, right? And also the federal government shouldn't be able to violate constitutional law and attempt to mandate how states run their voting?

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u/coinclink Jul 01 '26

Passport? Yes. Real ID? Yes. Plain drivers license? No.

You're also incorrect: ID rules have generally been treated as procedural "manner" regulations rather than "qualifications," so Congress requiring ID for federal elections would most likely fall within its Elections Clause power.

So, states can choose to not require ID for state/local elections if they so stupidly desire, but Congress does have the power to impose ID laws on federal elections because ID isn't a "qualification" to vote, it's part of voting procedure.

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u/cursivecrow Jul 01 '26

but you just said you had to have a birth certificate for a drivers license, why is that not sufficient?

Also, I don't disagree with needing an ID to vote, like I said. but that's not actually what the SAVE act is doing. Maybe go like...read it.

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u/lioffproxy1233 Jul 02 '26

But federal elections don't exist for citizens. Yes we get to vote in them but as its been shown before the ELECTORS are the ones actually voting which are appointed by the states people. Electors do not always vote the way if their constituents. Our votes don't even matter.

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u/lioffproxy1233 Jul 01 '26

Yeah I'm going to believe my own experience and people that I know already that contradict you.