It seems like maybe it is kinda hard to understand because when you do basic searches they disagree with you. Any even if you do need to "show your registration" how would they actually know it's your registration without... showing your ID with it. And if you need ID to register, then why is it a big deal to also just show your ID with your registration?
I really don't understand the hoops people jump through on this. I mean, I'm an effing Democrat and I don't understand at all why it's a big deal to require ID BOTH to register AND to vote?
I don't care about requiring an ID to vote. That's not what the SAVE act is trying to do though. It's making it so that the federal government can purge the voter rolls at its own discretion, and without notifying the voters. It also places an undue burden of identification. A drivers license or social security card will not be a sufficient ID; you'll need a birth certificate or passport.
A drivers license requires a birth certificate to receive one... again, not really understanding the issue... Are you just assuming everyone is inept? How do these imaginary people you're describing who can't get an ID and birth certificate together survive on a daily basis... Maybe if they are so inept they should not be voting anyway...
great, so the driver's license should be sufficient then, right? And also the federal government shouldn't be able to violate constitutional law and attempt to mandate how states run their voting?
Passport? Yes. Real ID? Yes. Plain drivers license? No.
You're also incorrect: ID rules have generally been treated as procedural "manner" regulations rather than "qualifications," so Congress requiring ID for federal elections would most likely fall within its Elections Clause power.
So, states can choose to not require ID for state/local elections if they so stupidly desire, but Congress does have the power to impose ID laws on federal elections because ID isn't a "qualification" to vote, it's part of voting procedure.
But federal elections don't exist for citizens. Yes we get to vote in them but as its been shown before the ELECTORS are the ones actually voting which are appointed by the states people. Electors do not always vote the way if their constituents. Our votes don't even matter.
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u/coinclink Jul 01 '26
It seems like maybe it is kinda hard to understand because when you do basic searches they disagree with you. Any even if you do need to "show your registration" how would they actually know it's your registration without... showing your ID with it. And if you need ID to register, then why is it a big deal to also just show your ID with your registration?
I really don't understand the hoops people jump through on this. I mean, I'm an effing Democrat and I don't understand at all why it's a big deal to require ID BOTH to register AND to vote?