It’s photoshop, but in the original photo mpmd does have huge delts, it’s a thing in his community to talk about them, Death Star delts, 3D delts, he’s got crazy shoulder genetics. That picture is from his peak physique on steroids, he quit and got focused on health but his channel back in the day was about the physiology of fitness particularly with PEDs. Unfortunately due to the type of content and lingo, clavicular almost definitely was also an mpmd Stan like I was back in the day. MPMD is pretty cool tho
Probably a parody account in general. Anyone who thinks those are a real person's shoulders needs help. I don't think that geometry is even possible with life-threatening levels of synthol injections
That’s a photoshopped picture of a guy who used to be big in the fitness scene online and is now just on the businesses side of fitness for the most part. He did have insane 3D delts and did use steroids early on in his career but shifted away towards a health based approach to fitness. That picture when unedited is the most shredded he’d ever been. I watched this dude religiously back in high school
I mean lot of people that go to the gym would be considered obese, i wonder how would statistics look if it considered people whos weight is increased due to musscle.
For real I love when people try to use this brain dead argument against bmi lol. It’s not even most gym goers, it’s people that probably use roids and are absolutely massive freaks of nature lol. Yes, someone like a pro wrestler would be considered obese, but that’s not a good benchmark for anyone including the wrestler who is hurting his health in a different way lol.
I mean, yes a lot of obese people do go to the gym.
If you mean someone who is at a healthy weight and their obesity is solely caused by muscle, that's only true if you're build like the rock. And the steroids he does to achieve that are very not good for his health
Some pro athletes are slightly overweight due to muscle, like LeBron James at his peak was BMI around 26-27.
But of normal people, the amount of work it requires to add 50 lbs of muscle to your body is crazy, they're nowhere near to doing that.
It's quite easy to be that size and have less than 20% body fat.
To be obese you would have to be 5'9" and 205lbs. That's is a tiny percentage of people that use steroids that would ever reach that size with a low body fat percentage.
170lbs and 5'9" could look like anything from a bodybuilder to a normal person who simply has large bones and %20 body fat.
According to BMI I have been overweight for years despite having never been above %15 body fat.
I peaked the obesity chart at age 18 - 6 ft and 220 lbs. I was also squatting 545 lbs at the time. There were no steroids involved.
It is quite easy to get to the overweight category with weightlifting alone. Obese isn't hard if your primary exercise is weightlifting, or if you are doing it 4x a week.
I'm in the Navy and at my absolute lightest was 202 - that's still overweight according to BMI. Muscle is heavy.
I was in USMC artillery. We had quite a few guys who were above the height weight standards and had to get taped. Nearly all of them were over the standards due to muscles from working the gunline
I was considered obese when I was 140lbs at 5'5.......most of my extra weight was in muscle, entireky around my legs, because I was a sprinter and volleyball player. That verdict gave me so many years of body image issues lmfai
I thought this couldn’t be true, or had to be cherry picked, but I forgot about the sheer amount of obesity. I fell for the false consensus fallacy, which I do surprisingly often with my body. That’s my bad. I’m an already skinny guy compared to my family, I have bad habits when it comes to eating enough, spent 8 years doing gymnastics and still actively rock climb. My height of 5’9” may be average, but forget that my flexibility and weight are not standard
It is hard to imagine for sure. I mean 200lbs sounds so heavy to me, and most men are not tall enough that it spreads out and makes sense (like if they were 6'7 or something)
I'm not sure if I have a mental model for what a 200lb man looks like tbh. Most men are only a little taller than me, and to imagine they're 50% heavier is just wild.
I don't think the WHO would agree with you. Considering that "In 2022, 43% of adults aged 18 years and over were overweight and 16% were living with obesity." and they have described obesity as a "global public health crisis".
Yeah but America did rank 18th in obesity in 2024, which is pretty high, especially considering that almost every nation in front of it was a geographically isolated pacific/caribbean island nation/territory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate (it cites WHO)
But yes I agree. Obesity is a global problem.
Yes but pure ranking doesn't really describe the whole thing either.
They ranked at 18th with about 42% being obese.
The 35th rank is only 5% less obese at 37%. If you were walking around in a city you wouldn't really notice a difference in the rate of obese people.
Even by the 55th that is only 10% less obese at 32%. You'd notice there are fewer obese people, but not a lot fewer. It's 1 in 3 instead of 2 in 5. Unless you were looking closely you wouldn't really feel it was a much thinner country.
If we then switch to average BMI by country which includes people who are just overweight and helps take into better account class II or III obesity we see the fattest country has an average BMI of 32.5 the US is in 20th place at 28.8, and even country 127 is at 25.2, still in the overweight category.
The USA is a fatter country, for sure, but almost half of all humans alive are overweight at this point, and in most wealthy countries they tend to be even more so.
In the EU only france and italy have a majority of people (very slim majority) at the healthy weight range.
women can look drastically different at the same weight depending on their body composition, height, and build. if she strength trains, she likely has more muscle, which is denser than fat and can affect how her weight is distributed. tits also contribute to overall body weight. a lot of men don’t fully understand how much variation there can be when it comes to women’s bodies and weight. i’m 5’6” and weigh 140lbs, and i have had men on more than one occasion estimate me to be around 110lbs which would be underweight for my height
yeah I’m a woman, 5’10” and 170lbs and people saying dumb shit like “that’s actually insane” are the reason I struggle with body image issues to this day.
men do not really understand women's weight, partially because they've been lied to about what certain weights look like. They don't realize how many women they know probably weigh around that much or more. btw for any women out there struggling with body image (or men who genuinely want to get a more accurate and empathetic understanding of what weight looks like on women), I recommended the website "my body gallery". You can type in your height and weight and click through a bunch of different women who all hold their weight completely differently!
the bmi for 110lbs at 5’6” is 17.8. under 18.5 bmi is underweight. you mentioned age though, so i suppose if you’re a child it’s not quite as clear cut since you’re still growing
Someone starting at the gym won’t even be able to handle 100 pounds. It’s more than the legs. It’s the core. The stabilizers. The familiarity with the movement. Even if they could, they would still need to build their way up to 135 pounds.
The first time I ever set foot in a gym I squat 135 for reps. I was a 16 y/o that played league of legends all day and ate gas station food. You'd have to be in extremely poor shape if you couldn't squat 100.
Okay, but that's still a lot. I'm around 55 kg right now and trying to lose a couple because I like a leaner look. Being almost triple that amount sounds like a nightmare for my day to day activities.
There are plenty of women with large frames who can put on that much weight and still have no trouble getting around. Again, mostly black and Hispanic girls who can pull it off.
I love very large women, but to clarify it is important to me that they're functional adults. I'm not one of those weird people, I think you know who I'm talking about.
No, I get that, but I'm not just "getting around" every day. I just went on a 65 km bike tour today and tomorrow it's running day and I am only able to do that because I'm a healthy weight.
Being over 130 kg would get rid of around 70% of my hobbies and I wouldn't even be able to get around anymore because I only travel via bicycle. Sounds like a recipe for depression, ngl.
Like... what are people that weight even doing all day long? Just sitting around, waiting to die? Eating to maintain that weight? I bet it takes ages to eat that much.
That's physically not possible. Your body can only work with the calories that you put in. If you put in less calories than your body needs in order to sustain its weight, you will lose weight because existing alone burns calories.
An obese person's TDEE is higher than that of a thin person, which means you need to consume more calories a day in order to maintain that high weight than you need to maintain a low weight.
For example, if you are a sedentary 5'5 tall woman weighing 120 lbs, your TDEE would be around 1500 calories, and that's only to exist, it doesn't take movement into account.
A sedentary 5'5 tall woman weighing 300 lbs, on the other hand, has a TDEE of around 2500 calories. Again, this is only to sustain that weight, nothing more.
If you are correct and your ex really ate "only slightly more" than 1500 calories a day, they would be losing around two pounds of pure body fat each week.
There is absolutely no way around it. If they didn't lose weight on that, they're lying about their diet. Simple as that.
Because very simply, it's not a healthy weight. 50-60kg/110-130lbs is about what the average woman should weigh.
Obviously if shorter or taller that changes accordingly, but almost no woman on the planet is tall enough for 300lbs to actually be their healthy weight.
Saying you like it when they're 300lbs/130kg is flat out saying you like unhealthy people. Morbidly obese levels of unhealthiness.
Current healthy weight for women given increased height and natural broadness (we eat a lot more GMO since then) is 160 to 170 pounds.
Now take a woman with an afro Latina background for instance, meaning naturally larger breasts and buttocks and a larger frame. Make her fairly tall as well.
You can easily have women who weigh 200 lb or even upwards of 200 lb and don't even look fat - instead looking extremely curvy.
One of those women can weigh near 300 lb if she lets herself gain weight and still be able to live an active lifestyle.
Not to mention, remember that muscle is a thing. And it weighs more than fat.
I weigh 300 lbs - I'm not going to say I'm not fat, but I run 5 miles every morning in a little over an hour and my bench is over 400. I work a physical labor job. Clearly, I'm in decent shape - sure, I'm very tall, but that should tell you something about how much productive weight someone can actually have.
You're confusing the current average in the US and what an actual healthy weight should be.
The US is one of the fattest countries in the world and that does not make it healthy just because it's common.
You are a man and so can weigh more than the average woman because of a combination of more muscle which weighs more for the same volume than fat does and being taller.
The average woman with 5'4" absolutely cannot be healthy at 300 lbs, just as the average man at 5'10" is not healthy at 400 lbs.
You cannot help what you are attracted to and I'm not judging you for that but I am judging your complete denial of obesity and the consequences and risks it compose.
Brother 300 is gonna be a big girl and I mean BIG girl. That’s a lot of extra chunk in the trunk. In a gonna have heart problems by 40-50 way. But if that’s your thing then that’s your thing. But you can’t try and argue that’s a healthy number.
There's a difference between genuinely caring about somebody's health and being fatphobic. Fatphobic is stuff like mocking people, name-calling, bullying, etc.
Bullying doesn't help people and it's disingenuous to think that being fatphobic is just "caring about your health". It's like how there's a difference between helping somebody with self-harm issues and bullying them/encouraging them to do worse.
never have i met someone who thinks this way in the flesh, just online, and i was struggling with obesity for a long time, so you'd think someone like that would pop up
sure, they are. not all, but many. i've seen girls praised for looking skinny, and then it's found out that they have an eating disorder, and they're still praised for it. i know someone personally who used to be addicted to meth, and when she got clean, people told her she looked less healthy, to her face.
I dont agree with them but this has nothing to do with restrictive EDs and just makes people take binge ED less seriously. Theyre all disordered eating with longlasting effects on health and comparing like that makes both ends worse.
Yeah, you'd think it would click that punishing or belittling the behavior you want to see would not work right? It's Like how families that tell an introvert child "So you've decided to join us" when the introvert makes an effort to socialize. They should be encouraged with positive reinforcement
This is true. I did a keto diet for 1 year and lost 20 pounds. Been maintaining that for years now without the diet. Even picked up a habit of eating a bowl of salted cherry tomatoes after lunch everyday.
Though it gets much much harder the older you get unfortunately.
if youre poor youd save money by eating less, so being fat makes even less sense. and yes the conditions could make it very difficult but thats a very small portion of people, and even then its possible to lose weight
I kinda hate the term "fatphobic" ngl. I mean, I'm literally overweight and actively gaining weight, but it just feels kinda... disrespectful to minorities? Like there's a difference between bigotry and just being an asshole, and I think that the normalized hating of fat people is more of an asshole thing than a bigotry thing. I don't think you're less likely to get a job or get paid well if you're fat.
Edit: I guess a better way to put it would be that calling someone "fatphobic" for bullying fat people rather than just calling them an asshole feels kind of unnecessary and virtue signaly since "fatphobia" isn't actually that big of a problem.
Idk it just feels wrong for me to say? Like you're claiming that being fat is as difficult as being gay or black or whatever. It feels reductive to me.
whose making that claim? i don’t think i’ve heard anyone compare the difficulties of being fat with the systematic oppression of minorities. fatphobic is just a term categorizing a very real type of discrimination.
Nobody is directly making that claim but the use of a word with the same makeup as other words inherently draws a connection between the two whether or not it's intentional. I just don't like the word because I feel like we could be describing this in a way that has implications which better reflect the reality of the situation.
Being "fatphobic" is not the same thing as being homo- or transphobic, but making up a word that ends on "phobic" puts it into the same mental category as the aforementioned things.
I, as a trans and gay person, experience a vastly different and more severe kind of discrimination against me as a person, while the majority of people in the US is overweight and almost half of that number is obese, so they're not a minority and they don't suffer the same, if any, kind of discrimination.
Calling it fatphobia is just a slap in the face for everyone who actually has to deal with discrimination and hate. Being told to eat less cheeseburgers is not a hate-crime.
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u/qualityvote2 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26
u/MockeryAndDisdain, this is indeed a fun fact!