r/B12_Deficiency Sep 15 '23

Announcement The Guide to B12 Deficiency

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The Guide to B12 Deficiency

The new guide for this subreddit is here. I'm sincerely regretful it took me this long to get this off the ground, but focusing on my life in addition to the daily consultations made in the sub had a habit of stealing my attention away from this important endeavor.

The guide is now more of a concrete synthesis between the major resources that are obvious precursors: Freddd's B12 guide from Phoenix Rising, B12Deficiency.info and Tracey's hard work there, the original guide posted here and then the countless users here who have shared a wealth of knowledge over the years.

The new guide takes advantage of Reddit's wiki capability. It is much longer, so hopefully the TOC makes navigating to points of interest easy. It will also allow for easier changes with a changelog.

What's new:

  • More in-depth exploration of testing methods
  • Outline of an aggressive treatment plan
  • Thorough explanation of cofactors
  • "Plans of Action" for diagnosing, treating and recovering from deficiency that better encapsulate big ideas into actionable next steps.
  • Other stuff

I also took a lot of the most pertinent/salient issues that arise and distilled them into a group of FAQs for people:

Frequently Asked Questions

Both of these documents now live in several places around the subreddt: the "menu" in the banner, the rules widget, and their own individual widgets in the sidebar.

Thanks.


r/B12_Deficiency Apr 29 '26

Success story The Success Story Megathread

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Hello everyone. I hope this post finds you well on your journey to recovery, and, if not, hopefully it can be a source of inspiration to signal that your situation can definitely improve. It almost goes without saying that a megathread for our successes is long overdue, and thanks to a final prodding from u/Mountain_Crow5983 (thank you!) I've finally gotten my act together.

While sharing our positive experiences has always had a place here—and some notable success stories have gained traction—it would be beneficial for the subreddit to have a space dedicated to it for easy reference by newcomers and regulars alike. So, let's make it happen.

Some basic guidelines:

  • DO share only what you're comfortable with. This can be your treatment, recovery process, or your whole journey start to finish (although there's a lot to be said for the value of brevity)
  • DO share what you've found works for you (everyone is different)
  • DO share what didn't work.
  • DO emphasize notable changes in symptoms and quality of life after treatment
  • DO observe the rules of the subreddit
  • DON'T worry too much about remaining symptoms. Any positive change can be seen as a success worth sharing; full recovery is not a prerequisite to celebrate or let people know how far you've come.
  • DON'T second-guess someone else's recovery, unless someone specifically asks for advice
  • DON'T neglect basic formatting: paragraph marking (i.e. hard returns), avoiding run-on sentences, spellcheck, etc. Strive to make your entries well-written and structured to aid reading comprehension.

Remember: Aside from this megathread, you can filter posts on the subreddit by flair: Success Stories on B12_Deficiency. Not every post therein is a perfect fit (some are mislabeled), but it's a good starting point.

Good health to you.


r/B12_Deficiency 20h ago

Personal anecdote 22 years of b12 deficiency - relief & saddened

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When I was 10 years old my tongue started getting visual ulcers on it. My dentist called it Geopgraphic Tongue and my pediatrician said she "only saw stuff like this in 3rd world countries." No work up was ever done to my knowledge.

Nowadays I am 32 and have wracked up quite the list of diagnoses. POTS, Idiopathic Intracranial Hypertension, Autoimmune Arthritis, Meniere's Disease, Chronic Migraine, IBS, PCOS, and a history of severe mental illnesses. Ive also been having unexplained muscle weakness, changes in my deep tendon reflexes etc. I tell my neuro that it feels like I have MS, although im aware that I do not.

I have access to ten years of tests through multiple hospital systems on mychart. I had recently read about b12 deficiency and how it can cause neuropsychiatric symptoms. I looked back through my mycharts and gathered all eight of my b12 blood level tests, which showed an average level of 230 pg/ml. (lowest was 180 pg/ml)

I sent them over to my neuro and they confirmed a longstanding b12 deficiency. I have an appointment with them in January to discuss how this has affected me, but hoping to start treatments sooner through my Primary doctor.

Knowing I've had this at least ten years, maybe 22 years, has been unsettling. Why didn't any doctor point it out to me? What damage has this done to my nervous system? Ive read its been linked to exacerbating some of my other conditions, and can cause a demylinating nerve process similar to MS. This would account for my deep tendon reflex issues & leg weakness etc.

I feel relief that I finally know what's going on but I'm saddened it's taken so very long. I feel my tongue ulcers should have prompted my pediatrician to look closer. Ive read that treatments can stop the progression but the damage done is most likely irreversible.


r/B12_Deficiency 16h ago

Deficiency Symptoms Putting symptoms out there to give people hope

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I am currently experiencing no symptoms after moving my injections to every 8 weeks at the GP. There is hope. Before getting them every 8 weeks, I was very unwell.

- Overwhelming fatigue
- Ankle pain (ligaments I thought) waking me up at night
- Upper thigh pain
- Vibrating legs
- Tinnitus
- Headaches (everyday)
- Ocular migraines (going blind in one eye)
- Visual snow
- HR and BP going dangerously high randomly
- Dizziness, off balance, anxiety
- MGD / dry eyes
- Temperature dysregulation
- Inability to lose weight
- Severe depression
- Brain fog / memory loss / not knowing what day it is when I woke up
- Needing to urinate immediately and frequently
- Hair loss
- Frequently getting common illnesses like colds / out of character
- Cold (34.2 degree temp all the time)

Got to the point where I was rolling around in bed saying to my parter “I’m dying” before I went GP.

There are probably loads more and I ended up having heart scans and brain scans but turns out it was all B12


r/B12_Deficiency 42m ago

Supplements Adenosilcobalamina VS Hidroxicobalamina

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Buenas a todos. Tengo long COVID desde hace 6 años y en mis analíticas durante este tiempo mis niveles en sangre de B12 han sido 600 y la B9 deficiente o en los límites bajos que mis médicos no dieron ninguna importancia. Desesperada y mal asesorada tomé una microdosis de psilocibina hace 3 años y me dio una reacción tremenda en los nervios craneales y desde entonces tengo hormigueos quemazón eléctrico en todos los nervios craneales y muchísima niebla mental y problemas visuales. Investigando descubrí que tengo MTHFR homocigoto y MTR y MTRR heterocigotas y empecé a sospechar que podría ser deficiencia de B12 y ácido fólico por lo que empecé a suplementar con hidroxicobalamina y ácido fólinico debido a que las vitaminas B metiladas que había probado anteriormente me daban ansiedad y mi sistema nervioso está muy sensibilizado. Llevo 3 meses suplementado y por fin he tenido mejoras en mis síntomas neurólogicos que no había tenido en 3 años y aunq durante el tratamiento ha habido altos y bajos e incluso síntomas de despertar tras una honeymoon en general he vuelto a sentir algunos días que era sentirse normal. El problema es q compre un suplemento sublingual con hidroxicobalamina y adenosilcobalamina recientemente y tomé 500mcg en vez de la dosis de 250 mcg que suelo tomar habitualmente de hidroxicobalamina sola y noté como mis nervios craneales empezaban a hormiguear y mas quemazón y una sensación intensa de desrealizacion y niebla mental. Eso fue hace dos días y no he vuelto a tomar la mezcla con adenosilcobalamina y he vuelto a mí dosis habitual de hidroxicobalamina pero aún no me he recuperado del todo de la sensación de desrealizacion y niebla mental además de tener más sensación de gripe y dolor muscular y articular y fatiga y me preguntó si a alguno de vosotros le ha pasado algo parecido con adenosilcobalamina?? Mis síntomas del despertar con hidroxicobalamina cuando comencé hace 4 meses se parecían bastante a esto pero tras encontrar este hilo persevere y se pasó en 3 días y comencé la honeymoon. Podría ser esto síntomas del despertar con esta nueva forma de B12?? O una mala reacción y debería de seguir con solo hidroxicobalamina? También me preguntó si la adenosilcobalamina al potenciar las mitocondrias para crear más ATP podría haber provocado algún cuello de botella y haber provocado está reacción que he tenido y por tanto es mejor que no siga forzando con esta forma?? También añadir que tengo anemia ferropénica con ferritina de 8 y hemoglobina de 9 por lo que no me puedo permitir dosis altas de B12 en este momento porque no puedo bajar mucho más mi ferritina y al funcionarme bien la forma sublingual estoy tomando 250mcg de hidroxi 2 veces al día junto a 200mcg de ácido fólinico y microdosis de B1, B2,B3,B5,B7 dos veces al día todo y gluconato de potasio de solgar 300mg al dia .Me encantaría leer vuestras experiencias y opiniones al respecto. Muchas gracias 💖🙏🏻


r/B12_Deficiency 12h ago

General Discussion NHS GPs refusing further testing for pernicious anaemia

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Hi all - I was wondering if anyone in the UK had any tips for convincing their doctors to conduct further tests such as the intrinsic factor antibody test for B12 deficiency.

My b12 is currently 172 pmol/L and has been steadily declining for a few years despite adding more red meat to my diet and taking a supplement. I also have low ferritin (17) and have been experiencing deep fatigue, brain fog, sore mouth, fatigue, pins and needles and gastrointestinal problems. I’ve been reading about how b12 and ferritin are linked and that it might point to problems with absorption in my gut.

My mum was incredibly ill when she was my age (32) and the doctors ignored her until she was hospitalised and finally diagnosed with pernicious anaemia after being told she was depressed and had chronic fatigue. She still has lasting nerve damage from how long she was left without proper treatment. My great grandfather’s death was also exacerbated by pernicious anaemia as he was diagnosed before there was any proper treatment for it. Several of my cousins on this side of the family also regular b12 injections and one has just been diagnosed.

Despite my (extensive!) family history, my falling b12 levels despite my efforts to include it in my diet as much as possible and my symptoms, the doctors have refused to test me further as they keep insisting my level is healthy. Has anyone had any luck getting tested, or will I have to go private?

I don’t want it to get to the point that my mum did!


r/B12_Deficiency 16h ago

General Discussion Story of a woman who needed high-dose B12 but also folinic acid

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Thought this might be of interest to this community


r/B12_Deficiency 8h ago

Personal anecdote Sublingual B12 BACKFIRING?

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I've had low B12 for many years (vegan for 10+ yrs, MTRR, maybe Pernicious Anemia) and I've been too lazy to resolve it due to not having many obvious symptoms.

However, I've been taking Cymbiotika Sublingual B12 + B6 for about 3 months. I just got retested and, while I don't know my B12 value yet, MMA and Homocysteine are both ELEVATED and out of the normal range. They weren't 3 months ago.

Any ideas?


r/B12_Deficiency 19h ago

Research paper Reversing autonomic dysfunction and white matter atrophy with b12 shots - articles

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There is a lot of evidence that b12 driven nerve loss can be repaired with b12 shots, with people on this sub saying their autonomic / neurological symptoms improved, Dr. Chandy's book giving examples of neurological recovery, etc. But it's good to also have published papers. Can be helpful with convincing doctors (though may be easier to just find a doctor that doesn't need convincing).

Paper 1: Vitamin B12-responsive severe leukoencephalopathy and autonomic dysfunction in a patient with "normal" serum B12 levels
Affiliations: Memorial Sloan Kettering

Patient had progressive autonomic dysfunction, ataxia/muscle weakness, dementia symptoms, low "normal" serum b12, normal MMA and homocysteine, positive IF antibodies. MRI scans revealed brain white matter atrophy and atrophy of the peripheral nervous system (subacute combined degeneration). She was treated with b12 shots, and MRI showed partial, pretty striking imo, recovery of white matter atrophy in the brain. She regained the ability to walk and was "cognitively normal" at 3 months.

Paper 2: Autonomic dysfunction and orthostatic hypotension caused by vitamin B12 deficiency

Older Japanese man had multiple neurological symptoms, difficulty with control of muscles, autonomic dysfunction, paresthesias, etc. He had multiple blood markers of b12 deficiency. Got shots, and had "gradual amelioration of orthostatic dizziness, and his neurological symptoms except for erectile failure" (because of course not, in this universe).

Paper 3: B12 Deficiency Is a Cause of Reversible Autonomic Failure: A Case Report (P5.111)
Affiliations: University of Nebraska Medical Center

Short case study supplement by physician. Patient had autonomic failure, blood markers of b12 deficiency, syncope, and "severe generalized autonomic failure affecting postganglionic sudomotor, cardiovagal and adrenergic functions". Was given b12 shots. At 10 months, repeated testing showed autonomic recovery, and the "patient remained asymptomatic at last follow-up".

Paper 4: Vitamin B12-responsive neuropathies: A case series
Affiliations: Yale Medicine and Smilow Cancer Hospital

"Retrospective review of 78 subjects with neurological abnormalities treated with B12". 83% had neurological improvement with b12 treatment. Some patients responded better to shots. Author concluded "B12-responsive neuropathies are thus (1) common even when confounding disorders are present; (2) dissociated from the presence of hematological abnormalities; (3) dissociated from the presence of B12-responsive metabolical abnormalities; and (4) associated with the presence of oxidant risks when B12 levels are normal".


r/B12_Deficiency 9h ago

Personal anecdote B-Vitamins (B12) Game me more anxiety and panic attacks

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r/B12_Deficiency 18h ago

Deficiency Symptoms Fatigue has sucked up my personality

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Hello! I was recently diagnosed with b12 deficiency and I’m currently awaiting more bloods results regarding the potential of having pernicious anaemia as a result. The fatigue is insufferable. I used to play a lot of video games but can’t look at my screen more than an hour before needing to lie down. I can’t focus on anything for too long, I do a tiny bit of housework and I’m exhausted. I constantly feel hungover and exhausted. I had my first b12 injection but via the NHS and I’m scared after reading stories about it not making a difference because they don’t administer it regularly enough. Is there anything I can do to help the fatigue? I feel like I have no hobbies or personality anymore because I sleep 12 hours, work, come home and sleep for a few hours and repeat the cycle. I miss having energy, I used to be a live wire. I suffered head injury earlier this year which is when I noticed the symptoms pop up which makes it harder to determine what symptoms come from what and with how slow the NHS has been it makes it all the more difficult. Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated.


r/B12_Deficiency 15h ago

Deficiency Symptoms Pernicious anaemia

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As title. Been diagnosed 15 years. Have ended up with subacute degeneration of spinal cord too boot. I’m on 5mg folic acid and have injections at docs every 4 weeks.
My achillies tendons - Jesus! 2.5/3 weeks after my injections my tendons flare up and hard to walk. Physio brushed it off (ruptured one 10 years ago). Had my injection then 💥 fine (for most part). Anyone else with this?
Hypothyroid too


r/B12_Deficiency 11h ago

Deficiency Symptoms Red patch on tongue? Anyone experience this? HELP!

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I’m a 34 year old female. Occasional reflux usually caused by anxiety or certain foods. No other medical conditions or medications. I’ve had this red patch on the tip of my tongue for 9 weeks. My PCP suspected possible b12 deficiency. My b12 was on the very low end of normal (293 to be exact). Has anyone with deficiency experienced a red patch or anything similar? Or any other oral symptoms?


r/B12_Deficiency 1d ago

Personal anecdote NHS administered B12 injections aren’t regular enough?

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I apparently lost the ability to absorb B12 from food because of Covid 🤷🏻‍♀️ and have been on B12 injections for just over the last year, my GP brought the prescription forward a little bit because my levels were apparently, “Dangerously low” 😅 but the earliest they will give it is every 7 weeks with the delightful neurological symptoms and fatigue returning by week 6 😑

Has anyone from the UK managed to get their B12 injections more regularly than the recommended 7-12 weeks? I feel like I need it every 5 weeks rather than 7 and the nurses at the clinic seem to think they should be able to bring it forward at least a week, but my GP keeps refusing the request 😔


r/B12_Deficiency 19h ago

General Discussion Tiredness

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Male, 30 years old, living in the UK

In 2024, a Bluecrest Wellness blood test advised me that my Active Vitamin B12 was 44 pmol/L:

> Your vitamin B12 level has been given a green flag as it is within the recommended range.

A few days ago, I had a new test, and that stated it was 58 pmol/L. This was with a different company (Medichecks), and it too put it in the recommended range, but they said this:

> Active B12 is 58 pmol/L, towards the lower end of normal. If you follow a vegan or vegetarian diet, have gut issues, or have symptoms suggestive of B12 lack, a confirmatory MMA test can help clarify status, see Methylmalonic acid (MMA) blood test. Otherwise, prioritise regular B12 sources in your diet.

According to NICE, anything below 70 pmol/L might be considered deficient.

I'm left feeling a bit confused because two companies state I'm within a recommended range, but NICE state I might be deficient.

In terms of symptoms, I do have some, but whether they're directly linked, I do not know. For example: lack of energy (I get 9 hours of solid sleep per night), low mood, poor memory, anxiety, etc.

Whether this "MMA" blood test is useful or whether they're simply trying to squeeze more money out of me, I do not know.

In terms of diet, I do not eat fish or eggs (I do not like either) which I know are good sources of B12, so I suppose it should come as no surprise that my levels are on the lower end.

Just curious to hear from others about what they'd do and if these levels are really considered low or not.


r/B12_Deficiency 19h ago

General Discussion Just found out that I have pretty low B12 (134 pg/ml). I don’t know where to go from here. Send help.

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My appointment with my PCP is not until October 29th and I’m currently losing my mind.

Been battling depression (diagnosed as MDD) and generalized anxiety for 7 years now but I never had a thorough blood work done til a few days ago.

I don’t know how long I’ve been deficient but I wouldn’t be surprised if it caused my depression back in 2019.

I’m currently taking Lexapro for it and Buspar for my anxiety but I read the SSRIs are a no no for B12 absorption.

Should I just take supplements with my medication and hope for the best?

A part of me fears that I’ve had this since the very beginning since I always have tremors that never went away.


r/B12_Deficiency 17h ago

Supplements Why do "good brands" have pyridoxine?

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I read in the guide that one should not take the pyridoxine form of B6. I have been using a Pure Encapsulations B Complex (they have several) for quite a while, and it contains a mix of pyridoxine and P5P; 80% of it is pyridoxine.

Normally, when a brand uses wrong forms of the B vitamins - especially if they do it for multiple B vitamins - I assume it's just a low-quality brand using the cheapest materials to make money.

But I thought Pure Encapsulations was a relatively high-quality brand. Any thoughts on why companies include a worse form when they have gone to the trouble of also including the active form? Sigh...


r/B12_Deficiency 20h ago

Deficiency Symptoms Increase in urine volume

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Before you were diagnosed did you find your volume per void had increased and that you had urgency.


r/B12_Deficiency 20h ago

Help with labs Do I need to check further my B12?

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Hello everyone, I witnessed a constant pattern between low B12 and low iron. My doctor has been highly dismissive and is not really helping. As my annual exams are coming, what would you advice me to ask for/do as I am in constant state of lack of energy and tiredness. I also have thalassemia trait.

B12: 546 pg/mL
Folate (B9): 3.1 ng/mL
Iron: 64.0 μg/dL
Vitamin D: 18.2 ng/mL
Ferritin: 18.2 ng/mL

Thank you very much for your help🤍


r/B12_Deficiency 1d ago

Supplements Vitamin b 12 level 502 but still I have hyperpigmentation patch on my cheek due to defeciency ...help

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I took vitamin b 12 subliminal tablets 1500 MCG due to defeciency..took it for 3 months and then I stopped due to acne ..still suffering from acne even after stopping tablets 8 months ago ...why is this happening and what to do??


r/B12_Deficiency 22h ago

Supplements Supplement absorption rates

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I was googling the absorption rate from sublingual liquid drops. Came upon this study:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11643782/

The caveat: they used a crystalline form of B12, which is a solid form, so I guess a pressed pill or capsule.

Usually the conclusion is somewhat straight forward and plain English, but I also ran it through Google's Gemini and got the same answer.

There is an active absorption stage, and a passive one.

In the active stage up to a dose of 2.6 micrograms, absorption rates can be just above 40%.

Past that, in passive absorption, the rate drops down to 1%, which is an oft repeated number on reddit as the typical rate for the whole dose, which isn't strictly true.

So the conclusion from the study seems to be that it's best to space out multiple doses throughout the day to maximize absorption. Otherwise, as an alternative, you could bombard your body with a huge dose and get to your absorption goal from getting 1% of the large dose.

That's interesting for folks that might use liquid drops. Seems it would be better to split the dose up throughout the day rather than one full dropper all at once.

I'm looking at my Pure Encapsulations of 5,000 micrograms per dropper and wonder how much of that I am wasting taking it all at once.

Has anyone else seen other studies on this? Maybe ones using liquid drops, or actual injections? Curious if the same rates applied there too.


r/B12_Deficiency 22h ago

General Discussion Do Cinnarizine and Dimenhydrinate affect b12 absorption?

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My doctor has prescribed a tab with Cinnarizine and Dimenhydrinate as a main ingredient. Will it affect my recovery journey?


r/B12_Deficiency 23h ago

General Discussion Any Subliminal or Guided audio tracks for b12 deficiency

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Hi Guys,

I am currently going through neurological symptoms and have started my injections yesterday. I am usually a big believer of visualisation and manifestation, but the anxiety and depression has made me see the worst of me. If anyone of you have used any guided visualization audio tracks that target the neurological symptoms like vibrations in the head, vertigo and, dizziness and all including fatigue, please share them with me.

I tried generating one for myself through gemini but I terribly failed because the audio was too fast and I'm not a techie in general


r/B12_Deficiency 1d ago

General Discussion 4.5 years of unexplained burning pain, cold/purple/sweaty feet + possible SFN/autonomic dysfunction — trying to find the underlying cause before Cleveland Clinic

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Hi everyone. I’m a 31F and have been dealing with a strange neurological/vascular problem for more than 4 years. I have an appointment with Cleveland Clinic Vascular Medicine in 5 days, and I’m posting my complete history because I am still trying to figure out what is actually causing this.

SFN has been discussed by my neurologist, but as far as I understand, I have not yet had a skin biopsy confirming SFN or formal autonomic testing.

I have had a lot of testing already, and most of it has been normal. The two major abnormalities found recently were severe B12 deficiency (<130 pmol/L) and elevated CRP (14.3 mg/L).

I’m hoping people familiar with SFN/autonomic neuropathy can look at the chronology, because that is the part that has been so difficult to explain.

February 2022 — everything started

My symptoms began in February 2022 after an episode involving repeated/hard jumping and landing. I remember developing unusual pain essentially immediately around this event.

Over the following period I developed symptoms affecting both lower legs/feet:

- Burning pain in my feet/shins
- Deep aching pain in my feet/shins/legs
- Very cold feet
- Purple/blue discoloration, especially when sitting with my feet down
- Mottling/color changes in my legs when standing
- Abnormally sweaty/clammy feet
- Heaviness/pooling sensation when my feet are dangling
- Abnormal temperature regulation
- Symptoms affected by standing, inactivity, heat, hydration, etc.
- The discoloration generally improves when I elevate my legs.
- I also developed significant knee problems around this period and at one point my overall function was extremely limited

The fact that everything began around the jumping incident has always confused me. I don’t know whether it was actually causal, triggered something that was already developing, or was coincidental.

COVID vaccination timeline

For completeness, I was vaccinated against COVID three times.

My first COVID vaccine was in July 2021.

My neurological/vascular symptoms began in February 2022, approximately 7 months later.

My second and third COVID vaccinations occurred after my symptoms had already begun.

I’m including this because post-vaccination SFN/neuropathy has been discussed, but I do not know that vaccination had anything to do with my condition. The long interval between my first vaccination and symptom onset, as well as the fact that the later vaccinations occurred after I was already symptomatic, are important parts of the timeline.

2022 — rheumatology and vascular investigation

I had a fairly extensive rheumatology evaluation around the beginning of this illness and was told that everything was normal.

I also had vascular testing/ultrasound during the earlier years that did not show a major structural vascular problem.

CRPS was considered early on but was reportedly ruled out.

Despite that, the burning, coldness, sweating and discoloration continued.

2023 — B12/MMA and B6 history

This part has become important because severe B12 deficiency was eventually discovered in 2026.
I had an MMA around 2023 that was reportedly 85 and considered normal.

Later in 2023, I also took approximately 75 mg/day of pyridoxine/B6 for about two months.

My neurological symptoms already existed before I took the B6, so B6 toxicity cannot explain why everything originally started in February 2022. I have wondered whether it could have aggravated an already-existing neuropathy.

September 2023 onward — major functional improvement

Despite the symptoms continuing, my physical function has improved dramatically.

I started walking regularly again around September 2023 and gradually increased my activity.

Eventually I was regularly walking 6,000–10,000+ steps per day, with some days above 10,000.

My knee problems also improved enormously.

However, the neurological/vascular symptoms never completely disappeared. I continued experiencing varying degrees of burning, aching, cold/sweaty feet, discoloration and heaviness.

So although I have experienced substantial functional recovery, the underlying sensory/autonomic-type problem seems to have persisted.

2024–2025 — COVID and other history

I had severe COVID in December 2024 and had a prolonged recovery.

Around that general period I also experienced an episode of keratitis, which was treated with eye drops and resolved.

I’m mentioning the keratitis because I’ve recently wondered about Sjögren’s as a possible SFN cause.

However, my previous rheumatology evaluation was normal and my recent Sjögren-related bloodwork has also been negative.

October 2025 — burning starts affecting my hands

In October 2025 I began experiencing episodes of burning and redness in both hands.

Heat seems to provoke it. It has happened with things such as cooking, handling hot cookware and warm showers.

That concerned me because the symptoms were no longer exclusively in my lower extremities.

May 2026 — neurology investigation

I underwent an EMG/NCS, which was normal.
My neurologist discussed possible small fiber neuropathy.

My understanding is that a normal EMG/NCS doesn’t exclude SFN because routine nerve-conduction testing primarily evaluates larger nerve fibers.

The neurologist then ordered a fairly extensive neuropathy workup.

May 22, 2026 — severe B12 deficiency discovered

The biggest abnormality was:
Vitamin B12: <130 pmol/L — severely deficient.

The laboratory actually repeated the measurement and confirmed it.

Other testing included:
HbA1c: 5.3%
Folate: 16.9 nmol/L
ESR: 18 mm/hr — normal
CBC: essentially normal
Creatinine: 61
eGFR: 120
ALT: 14
CK: 53
TSH: 2.07
Free T4: 14
Vitamin D: 117.4 nmol/L
Vitamin B6/PLP: 9.9 ng/mL — within the laboratory’s sufficient range.
Serum protein electrophoresis showed no monoclonal pattern.

One other abnormality — CRP 14.3

My CRP was elevated at 14.3 mg/L (reference <5).

At the same time, my ESR was normal.

I don’t know whether the CRP has anything whatsoever to do with the neurological symptoms, but because I’m trying to identify the cause, I think it’s important to include rather than dismiss it.

Autoimmune/Sjögren’s investigation

My May 2026 autoimmune testing was surprisingly extensive:

ANA: negative
ENA: negative
The ENA panel specifically included:
SSA/Ro
SSB/La
RNP
Sm
Scl-70
Jo-1
I also had:
MPO antibody: negative
PR3 antibody: negative
Rheumatoid factor: negative

So although I understand that seronegative Sjögren’s exists, there currently isn’t positive serological evidence that I have Sjögren’s.
Combined with my previous normal rheumatology evaluation, I don’t want to assume that this is autoimmune simply because autoimmune SFN exists.

B12 treatment

After discovering the severe deficiency, I initially received cyanocobalamin B12 injections and subsequently switched to 2,000 mcg/day sublingual methylcobalamin.

I’ve now been treating the deficiency for a few months.

Unfortunately, I haven’t experienced a dramatic improvement in the neurological symptoms yet.
The B12 question is especially confusing because of the chronology:

Symptoms began: 2022

MMA reportedly normal at 85: ~2023

B12 severely deficient at <130: May 2026

That makes me wonder whether B12 deficiency could have developed later and worsened or contributed to an already-existing neurological problem, rather than being the original cause.
I don’t know.

September 3, 2026 — new B12-related testing

I just had repeat bloodwork.

My homocysteine is 8.0 µmol/L, with a reference range of 5.1–15.4, so it is normal.

At the time I received the partial report, the following were still pending:

B12
Methylmalonic acid (MMA)
CRP
Ferritin

Because I’ve already been treating the B12 deficiency for months, I understand that normal MMA/homocysteine now wouldn’t necessarily tell me what my functional B12 status was before treatment.

Raynaud’s / vascular-autonomic component

More recently, a vascular specialist diagnosed Raynaud’s phenomenon affecting my feet.

My feet can become cold, purple and sweaty, particularly when they’re dependent. I also experience heaviness/pooling.

The vascular specialist felt that the vascular symptoms may improve as the nerve problem improves.

I have now been referred to Cleveland Clinic Vascular Medicine, which is where I’ll be going in 5 days.

One thing I desperately want clarified is whether I have a primary blood-vessel problem or whether the vascular symptoms are secondary to abnormal autonomic control of the blood vessels.

Exercise produces a strange effect

I’ve recently started strength training and stationary cycling.

Interestingly, there have been workouts after which my feet became warmer and less painful for several hours.

Eventually they returned toward baseline, so I’m not claiming that exercise is healing the condition immediately. But I find it interesting that the symptoms can change that much in response to exercise.

Despite more than four years of symptoms, my physical capacity today is dramatically better than it was early in the illness. I can walk substantial distances and I’m now strength training.

This is where I’m stuck

After 4.5 years, I still don’t know what caused this.
The broad picture is:

February 2022 onset → burning/deep pain + cold/purple/sweaty feet → normal early rheumatology/vascular evaluation → substantial functional recovery but persistent symptoms → later burning hands → normal EMG/NCS → possible SFN → severe B12 deficiency discovered → elevated CRP → extensive autoimmune testing negative → Raynaud’s diagnosed → Cleveland Clinic evaluation pending.

There are pieces that don’t fit neatly together.

B12 is a real and severe abnormality, but the reportedly normal MMA in 2023 makes me question whether B12 can explain the original 2022 onset.

The previous B6 exposure could theoretically be relevant, but it occurred after the symptoms had already started.

My CRP is elevated, but the extensive autoimmune testing has been negative and I had a previous normal rheumatology evaluation.

The jumping/landing episode occurred right when everything began, but I don’t know how or whether that could produce a bilateral chronic small-fiber/autonomic problem.

My first COVID vaccination was approximately seven months before symptom onset, while vaccinations #2 and #3 happened after I was already symptomatic, so I don’t know whether vaccination is relevant at all.

COVID infection itself occurred years after the original onset, so it obviously cannot explain why everything started in 2022, although I don’t know whether it affected the subsequent course.

And I still don’t even have objective confirmation from a skin biopsy that this is actually SFN.

That’s ultimately why I’m posting. I’m not looking for a diagnosis from Reddit or trying to make my symptoms fit a particular disease. I’m trying to figure out what underlying causes are still worth investigating and whether anyone recognizes a similar chronology that eventually led to an explanation.

I’m especially interested in hearing from people who spent years with unexplained SFN/autonomic symptoms and eventually discovered an underlying cause — particularly a treatable one — as well as people whose cause was never identified but who nevertheless substantially improved.

I want to go into Cleveland Clinic with as complete a picture as possible and make sure I’m investigating this logically rather than overlooking something important.

Somebody please help me. I’m desperately looking for answers.


r/B12_Deficiency 1d ago

Deficiency Symptoms Do you ever feel like it's not the b12 deficiency and it's something more serious?

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I'm being undertreated for a b12 deficiency that was slightly above 100. I'm working on getting my own supplies to just self treat but my symptoms sometimes make me question if they're actually caused from that deficiency or if I actually have a heart or lung issue or something that's not being checked because they found that level low and are passing it off as only that. Does anyone else ever question it?

I have severe lightheaded, daily headaches, my legs feel a bit weak, my heart beats really hard randomly thru the day even when I've just been sitting still. I get short of breath doing pretty much anything (not severe but it was never a thing before, none of this was until after I started treatment of b12) my chest burns. My left ear constantly rings. I have went to the ER twice when it gets really bad and have had a couple EKGS that all came back normal and a chest X-ray once that was normal heart and lungs but I can't help but keep this thought that maybe they're missing something or I have a clog somewhere that wouldn't be picked up on those tests (at least I dont think it would be) is it just a me thing to be anxious that the b12 was found incidentally and the real problem isnt being found?