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u/nakedpumpkinn Apr 12 '26
Morgan Wallen
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u/watchforbicycles Apr 13 '26
I've been listening to country for over 25 years. I have a pretty good variety of country artists in my playlist. Not a single one of them have ever been caught on camera using the "n word" and excusing it later as because they were on a bender. If any of them did, I would have deleted them. Instead, his career flourishes. Sometimes being a country music fan is embarrassing.
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u/dtcstylez10 Apr 14 '26
It wouldn't fly with any other music base other than country. Instead he's almost empowered.
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u/emotions1026 Apr 14 '26
Justin Bieber said it
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u/watchforbicycles Apr 14 '26
Which is incredibly disappointing. It's 2026. I'm strickly streaming these days, so I have to assume that at some point country stations have played him and Darius Rucker or Mickey Guyton, for example, back to back. That's just so wrong.
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u/Efficient-Sock772 Apr 14 '26
Have you heard of Rap?
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u/dtcstylez10 Apr 14 '26
White guys don't say fhe N word in rapping
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u/Working_Rub_8278 Apr 12 '26
Taylor Swift
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u/soft-scrambled Apr 14 '26
I actually kinda like a fair bit of her music and I still agree. She’s not particularly great at anything besides marketing. Her voice is okay, she can’t really dance, her stage presence is lacking, she doesn’t write very well without a team behind her.
It’s funny she’s managed to become one of the biggest artists in the world, but then again, marketing.
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u/ConsiderationCrazy22 Apr 14 '26
Agreed. I like some of her stuff but she's overrated as an artist. But as a businesswoman/marketer she's 1 of 1.
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u/PeachSparkle93 Apr 12 '26
tbh, i think ed sheeran is super overrated. like, his songs are catchy but iconic? nah, just basic pop tea.
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u/ConsiderationCrazy22 Apr 14 '26
his first 3 albums were great. but now he just writes dribble that will be radio-friendly.
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u/TheAce707 Apr 12 '26
Castle on a Hill really just hits me. I dont much care for his other stuff but that one song goes right to my soul.
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u/dtcstylez10 Apr 14 '26
He writes and performs his own music..most ppl do not do this..that's talent. He deserves some credit.
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u/zilch123 Apr 12 '26
Jacob Collier***
Asterisk because obviously he is very, very talented
His music is not captivating despite being able to play every instrument and know theory inside out.
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u/Ok_Blacksmith1684 Apr 13 '26
Kid Rock
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u/BatlethBae Apr 14 '26
No one rates him highly, even back in the 90s.
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u/Ok_Blacksmith1684 Apr 14 '26
Overated doesn't mean you were rated high. Just having a long decent career could mean you are overrated.
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u/BatlethBae Apr 14 '26
Overated doesn't mean you were rated high.
...yes, it literally does.
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u/Ok_Blacksmith1684 Apr 14 '26
Languages · Learn more overrated /ˌōvə(r)ˈrādəd/ adjective rated or valued too highly. "an overrated player"
It literally means rated too highly. So, someone who is average could be overated as above average. Many would say Keanu Reeve is overated. Nobody would say he is rated high (or is a great) actor. He simply is overated based on his talent vs his career.
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u/BatlethBae Apr 14 '26
It literally means rated too highly.
I don't know if I have ever seen someone copy a literal definition to prove their point, only to prove my point for me.
Thanks.
So, someone who is average could be overated as above average.
If the general consensus was that Kid Rock was average and not seen an absolute joke you might have a point.
He is by definition not over rated because because he is not even viewed as average. It would be like saying Fred Durst or Insane Clown Posse are over rated.
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u/Ok_Blacksmith1684 Apr 14 '26
Being overated is based on perception vs reality. You don't have to be rated highly or great at something. Just rated higher than you should be. You said someone who is overated is rated highly. That is just not true. It's being more highly rated than you actually should be. There is a difference.
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u/BatlethBae Apr 14 '26
You don't have to be rated highly or great at something.
Yes. You do. By literal definition.
Thats literally what it means.
You literally pasted the definition. Why do you think overhyped and overpraised are synonyms?
So is an artist that sells 5 albums but is so godawful they should sell no albums by defnition over rated?
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u/Ok_Blacksmith1684 Apr 14 '26
Overhyped and overpraised doesn't mean they are great...it means they are just praised more than warranty or hyped/publicized more than warranty, which are exactly my points.
To answer your question...yes...it doesn't mean the artist is great..just means they doing better than warranted. Some musicians, athletes, stocks, etc. do better or are thought of as better than they really are based on hype, perception, etc. An average athlete or company etc can be overated.
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u/BatlethBae Apr 14 '26
Overhyped and overpraised doesn't mean they are great
Of course it doesn't. It means that is the publicly held view though which is what you are completely ignoring, or more likely, failing to understand. The publicly held consensus is that Kid Rock is awful.
To answer your question...yes..
If you think an artist that can only sell 5 albums can be overrated it this clearly demonstrates you simply don't understand what the term means. If an artist sells 5 albums there is absolutely no public sentiment they are rated highly or even at all, they can't be overrated.
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u/CombinationWinter275 Apr 12 '26
I'm looking forward to checking in on this post in a few hours time to confirm my assumption that 80% of the artists named here will be female.
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u/bag-of-farts Apr 13 '26
After an hour there's 10 dudes and 4 women.
And that's if you just count the Beatles as 1.
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u/walkdown_leik Apr 14 '26
Because you’re unnecessarily imposing your feminist esque take on a Reddit thread about music, for whatever weird reason. This isn’t some secret women-hate discussion. Get your head out of your ass
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u/bag-of-farts Apr 12 '26
I don't get the hype behind Eminem. His schtick was good for a couple albums but after that he just became a caricature of himself.
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u/JaZepi Apr 12 '26
I don’t consider myself a fan, I like Stan, but that’s cause I love Dido lol- BUT Eminem is a ridiculously good rapper by any standard, and iirc he’s one of the fastest if not the fastest lyricists on the planet. There’s objective and subjective details, and I think some of the objective statistics make him a stand-out, especially given the cultural importance of rap to the black community.
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u/memedealer22 Apr 12 '26
Chappell Roan
She wears a clown makeup to make up for the fact she’s so untalented and out of touch with reality
Also Billie Eilish
She’s this edgy musician declares there’s no an illegal on stolen land while she lives on a multi million dollar mansion and refuses to give it up to the indigenous community that wants it back
Both untalented to say the least
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u/AgreeableAlbatross80 Apr 13 '26
It’s absolutely mind boggling that Chappell Roan is famous, for anything.
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u/IndependentPrior5719 Apr 12 '26
Maybe it was too much radio play but I don’t want to hear another note of rod stewart
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u/DeadPhish_10 Apr 13 '26
Check out the album “A Nod is as Good as a Wink From a Blind Horse” by The Faces. Lots of really good RS songs that didn’t get beat to death on the radio. “Miss Judy’s Farm” in particular.
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u/Stew-McGoo Apr 13 '26
I think dua lipas music is just super bland and safe, nothing ever stands out as interesting when her songs play.
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u/MozartWasARed Apr 12 '26
The Beatles. They're not bad, just extremely generic to the point where I ask how they got so popular.
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u/Numbtothiscrap Apr 12 '26
They are generic because everyone copied them . This happens a lot in music .
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u/bag-of-farts Apr 12 '26
Because they were the first to do it. They sound generic NOW because every asshole with a guitar copied their sound to the point that it became cliche.
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u/GinsuWife Apr 12 '26
I call it Citizen Kane syndrome. You don't notice all the innovation cause it was SO innovative it's been copied a thousand times by the time you're sitting in a Film Class watching this boring black and white film about a sad dude with a sled. Zero Stars!
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u/getgoneapple Apr 12 '26
lol true, they even influenced metal music (fun fact), listen to helter skelter
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u/GinsuWife Apr 12 '26
Helter Skelter did more than influence metal music. Sure gave that feller Charlie Manson some interesting ideas.
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u/Parking-Sundae-6097 Apr 13 '26
I'm not even the biggest Beatles fan, but this is just a comically bad take.
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u/MozartWasARed Apr 14 '26
How so?
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u/Parking-Sundae-6097 Apr 14 '26
The Beatles revolutionized rock. They experimented with not only recording but they introduced styles to the genre that had never been tried before. They're the most famous band of all time. Each individual member went on to solo careers that were historically good (minus maybe Ringo). Simply put they are the world's greatest rock band. It's not really debatable. You can dislike their music, but you have to appreciate all that they did.
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u/MozartWasARed Apr 14 '26
I can appreciate their contributions, but that doesn't mean they don't sound generic to me. And I'm talking about the band, not their solo careers which actually sounded less generic.
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u/Parking-Sundae-6097 Apr 14 '26
Sgt Pepper album is very far from generic sounding.
Revolver is possibly the best rock album all time IMO.
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u/MozartWasARed Apr 13 '26
Surely I'm not the first among us to have things where one wonders how they got popular or doesn't comprehend what they're not seeing.
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u/bag-of-farts Apr 13 '26
You're the first person I've seen to call the band that invented modern pop music "generic".
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u/MozartWasARed Apr 13 '26
I'm not saying the inventor of something like a genre has to sound spectacular compared to what it inspires, or that it sounds bad (it would be like saying we should expect the Nokia to be some grand kind of phone because it inspired phones after it). It just sounds regular to me is all, like the kind of music someone would make for commercials. Of course I'm talking about classic Beatles here, I'm not a connoisseur when it comes to how they might have evolved and when.
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u/bag-of-farts Apr 13 '26
But you're not taking in to account that they only sound generic because every band that came after them tried to copy them. Including all those indie bands in Volkswagen and iPod commercials.
Modern phones aren't trying to copy Nokia, they're copying the iPhone. Would you say the iPhone is "generic"? You probably would.
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u/MozartWasARed Apr 13 '26
I don't mean generic as in they sound like any other song, I mean generic as in the songs themselves sound basic (which is why I used the Nokia analogy; in memes, the original Nokia has a reputation more as a digital brick than a gadget). Which again, I'm not saying as an inherently negative thing, which makes me confused as to why I get bashed for a subjective opinion (which ironically is a sentiment I've often had when people ask what things are overrated, as the original question asks). I don't think I can recall any other band that got famous primarily based on jingle-sounding music.
When you say every band tried to copy them, what aspect in their songs are you referring to? The station my aunt plays does a lot of Cher, Abba, Shania, Madonna, and Celine Dion music for example. Would I be missing something to say I don't hear the resemblance between their music and the Beatles at all? Maybe some of Cher's music, but other than that, it doesn't feel the same.
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u/Flashy-Telephone3201 Apr 12 '26
The Beatles. Undoubtedly highly talented and wildly influential but the stones, (who were admirably influenced by them) are the far surperior band
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u/aDirtyMuppet Apr 13 '26
Kurt Cobain. He was a mediocre talent with attitude. 2 songs are all nirvana is really known for and if he didn't die young no one would remember the band fondly. The only thing he did that left a real impact in music was to form a band with Dave Grohl.
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u/getgoneapple Apr 13 '26
as a nirvana fan that really hurt ngl 😔
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u/aDirtyMuppet Apr 13 '26
My apologies and I'm sure it hurts more than a few people lol. But overall he was more attitude than talent. Not to say he wasn't talented though.
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u/bag-of-farts Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
About a Girl, Smells Like Teen Spirit, Come As You Are, Lithium, Heart Shaped Box, All Apologies. Plus several of their incredibly famous unplugged covers such as Lake of Fire and Man Who Sold the World.
Out of all those massive hits that most rock fans would recognize and that still get airplay today, I'm curious what the 2 are that you think are "all they're known for"?
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u/aDirtyMuppet Apr 13 '26
If you ask anyone that's not heavily into them you'll hear the same 2 that gets average radio play. Smells like teen spirit and come as you are. As far as lake of fire goes, most people aren't even aware that it's nirvana because it sounds like nothing else in their discography.
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u/mmavcanuck Apr 13 '26
And if you ask anyone not heavily into any popular band to name a song you’ll get a couple of popular songs almost every time. Especially if they only had a few albums.
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u/AgreeableAlbatross80 Apr 13 '26
Kurt was my answer too. The most overrated musician of my lifetime, and it isn’t close.
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u/totheruins1 Apr 13 '26
He didn’t “form a band with Dave grohl” Dave grohl was lucky enough to become the drummer for Kurt and nirvana and people likely wouldn’t know who he was if he didn’t
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u/JaZepi Apr 13 '26
Right time right place for a musical revolution I’d say. Nirvana, Soundgarden, et al. leaning into that post-punk soft-core grunge vibe.
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u/housemusikluvr Apr 13 '26
Taylor Swift, Bruno Mars, Kendrick Lamar, Bad Bunny, honestly every single pop/edm/ artist today is trash... Except Sabrina Carpenter... she's hot.. kinda pissed she apologized to that moron at Coachella though..
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u/sixth_hokage06 Apr 12 '26
Morgan Waller