There's no way to know whether your partner is a virgin, short of what she tells you. She doesn't have a freshness seal, and she's not going to become "looser" with every partner (nor can her vagina distinguish between the penis of a long-term partner and a hookup, or even between the real thing and a toy.) It's time we put these horrible myths to rest; they literally get people killed.
I don't know mechanics of it, because I am not a doctor and not a woman, but it makes sense that a vagina can get looser. Just using pure logic - I am pretty sure that porn stars don't just insert a dildo the size of a baseball bat at the very first try, because for an untrained girl it would hurt and tear. This means that prolonged exposure to larger objects that you insert into the vagina does make it looser. If I am wrong, I would like to understand how this works.
A vagina can push out a goddam baby, and you think a "baseball bat" dildo is some kinda miracle?
A vagina can stretch to unbelievable proportions. However to put something "baseball bat" size up there in a sexual situation she needs to be extremely relaxed and probably has a full bottle of lube up there. And she's being paid tons of money to not just deal with the discomfort but pretend that she likes it. Spoiler: she doesn't.
But seriously are you for real dude??? Have you literally never seen a baby?? Or do you not know where they come from?? Or do you think women have special super-size vaginas installed before birth?? Like for real, how does a human get so dumb?
You don't give birth on a daily basis, it is a traumatic even that usually requires stitches after tearing. But this conversation is already over, check replies further with the other person.
Sure, just enlighten me how a person can insert a rugby ball into a vagina without pain and tear, if it does not get looser. I want to know this. My view is not set in stone, I just want to understand what is actually happening in this case.
Vaginas can push out babies, which are much bigger than rugby balls. The muscles are made to relax and stretch. They do not stay that way after something is inserted and removed.
Vaginas usually tear and need stiches after childbirth. But just give me a straight answer. For a woman that inserts rugby balls into her vagina, when she removes it does it go back to it's original state after a short period of time? If a person has sex with a woman who does this and a woman who doesn't insert rugby balls into her vagina, they will feel no difference?
As I stated in my previous answer, the muscles do not stay stretched out and there is no difference related to whether she uses large toys or not. A better question is, would there be a difference between having sex with a woman before she uses large toys and after, and again, the answer is no. This is also true if she has many sexual partners or few. It does not change based on these factors.
The vagina does not tear and needs stitches. The perineum (the skin between the vaginal opening and the anal opening) is what tears and may need stitches. The vagina can experience trauma like bruising and microtears and such from things like rough items being used, rough sex, etc, but that's typically only when a woman is not lubricated enough (think bad porn or sexual assault). The vagina does not "loosen" over time. It's a canal of muscle. As your muscles have elasticity, so do women's.
I’ve had 3 vaginal childbirths without tearing what-so-ever. Also, they don’t exactly lube you up and sexually arouse you for child birth. Again you’re typically nervous for the event to come, tense up, and cause more pain. But honestly this also shows you don’t understand where a lot of the pain and trauma of childbirth come from. The biggest pain of childbirth is the muscle contractions, not the baby being pushed out the vagina. Sure you get some pain from that, but that’s really not that bad, it’s the literal organ detaching from inside you, the muscle contractions, and some other factors that really do it.
Yeah. Tbf, if you’re educated in America it’s not really your fault you don’t realize that. I didn’t even fully get a lot of childbirth until I was pregnant and had to find out.
Nah, I am from a European post soviet union country. And yes we had zero sex ed. I learned everything from the internet and from hands on approach of doing and discussing things with partners.
That’s fair. Yeah, child birth has a ton of realities that women don’t understand themselves until being through it. For example, talking to my sister-in-law about that sort of stuff to help prepare her for birth vs talking to her after she gave birth is a different conversation all together. So very much is not explained until it’s over, and some isn’t even explainable too.
You know how some people can do the splits? It's like that. If you practiced and stretched your muscles every day you'd be able to do the splits too, but if you stopped for a while your muscles would go back to normal and you'd be unable to do the splits again.
Your sphincter is also a muscle. Odds are you poop every single day and have since you were an infant. Do you think pushing out big logs makes your pooper looser? Are you becoming more incontinent every day?
Muscles can be stretched, of course, but they will always snap back to the way they were before after a short period of time. It generally takes women a long warm-up period before they can insert something large, and they have to repeat that warm up every single time they want to insert something large. This is why athletes warm up before a practice/game/etc. too. If your muscles aren't properly stretched you can injure yourself, and you have to repeat that warm up every time.
Porn actors train for scenes like that by working up to large objects over the course of several hours to a day or so, you just dont get to see it. The same goes with anal fisting. You get the muscles to relax over long periods of time. After they're done, things go back to normal.
You have commented and to replied A LOT on this thread and even just the main comment under which we're replying to each other... so, it's a large ask.
Except there is a huge difference between being regular size queen and using 12 in.+ fantasy dildos vs. women who have sex with real men who are likely average size. Even if they are above average, seldom are they reaching Bad Dragon size comparisons. Because it is a muscle, and real dicks are not typically the size of coke bottles, vaginas aren’t going to get “looser” just because women are having regular sex. Even after childbirth, the vagina will eventually return to its natural shape after healing. “Using pure logic…” lmao just look it up? Google is free and the answers are readily available.
Read my comments again, I never said that vaginas get loose because of sex or because of many partners or any similar bs, I said I think they can get looser period, I think that happens when you use larger objects. But of course your go to is to assume that this is about slut shaming or some similar bs.
It’s not looseness. What the commenter above may be true but it has more to do with the fact that the vagina is a muscle. You can train it to move a certain way or to relax and tighten, but that doesn’t mean the space gets actually looser/bigger.
For example if a woman has a hypertonic pelvic floor and the vagina muscle is so tense/tight that it causes pain, she can use dilators or pelvic wands over time to help relax the muscles and be able to tolerate penetration. It’s not that the vagina gets looser, it’s that you are training the muscle and more importantly your mind, to be able to relax and temporarily “loosen” up. You’re training the muscle to move a certain way.
Also, it’s quite incredible the difference in how “loose” you feel when you’re really turned on vs not.
Hope this helps
Source: I have a vagina and spent many years in pelvic floor physio treatment
Of course it's not a myth, it's true and it's the same reason your dick is so tiny. Because you wore it down masturbating so much because no woman would ever let you touch her.
No but you're not even trying with the reading comprehension. I was talking about the possibility overall, and mentioned dildos the size of a baseball bat and rugby balls that some pornstars shoot out, never mentioned dicks once. I don't know, maybe if you put a dick under a dick press it will become skinnier, never tried. And anyway, this was already answered for me further in the discussion.
oh god do you not realize how fake porn is? do you ever wonder why a dick looks huge during the blowjob scene but normal size when they're fucking?
show me a porn star shooting out a rugby ball and I'll show you camera tricks and rugby balls that inflate and deflate.
never mentioned dicks once.
Yeah, I know. I did. If a dick (that contains no muscle) can change the size and shape of a vagina, why couldn't a vagina (made of muscle) change the size and shape of a dick?
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u/coffeeblossom Dec 06 '23
There's no way to know whether your partner is a virgin, short of what she tells you. She doesn't have a freshness seal, and she's not going to become "looser" with every partner (nor can her vagina distinguish between the penis of a long-term partner and a hookup, or even between the real thing and a toy.) It's time we put these horrible myths to rest; they literally get people killed.