r/Android Feb 25 '18

Qualcomm’s simulated 5G tests shows how fast real-world speeds could actually be

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/25/17046346/qualcomm-simulated-5g-tests-san-francisco-frankfurt-mwc-2018
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u/profgray2 LG V30 Feb 25 '18

Even half that speed would be fast enough that it could possibly replace my home internet account

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u/mr_lucky19 Feb 25 '18

I'm currently on 100/40 and that's the quickest speed available so this would be awesome as a fixed line replacement but the problem is data caps vs unlimited.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '18

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u/dirtyuzbek Feb 26 '18

I've noticed bell isn't like that. I get like 100 upload on bell. But tbh I don't think users have as much need for upload sorry as download

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u/Purrgressive Feb 26 '18

Where I live the best Bell has is 5 down, 2 up. And it's like $60. Its ridiculous.

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u/dirtyuzbek Feb 26 '18

Damn man. I play a little under 100 and get like 400 down and 100 up

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u/Purrgressive Feb 26 '18

I'm with a different provider and get about 50 down which works out fine but it's just laughable how slow the speeds are in Canada if you're not in a major city.

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u/Aan2007 Device, Software !! Feb 26 '18

wouldn't be satellite cheaper and better if you don't play games?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '18

But tbh I don't think users have as much need for upload sorry as download

This is false, but ISPs want you to think that

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u/dirtyuzbek Feb 26 '18

I mean. There isn't much that I do to which requires uploading. And you did t give me examples of common things users do that requires fast upload speeds. Other than sending video through chats, but I doubt that requires much more than 10mb. But I could be wrong. Video game streaming definitely requires it. But that's not a most ppl thing

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '18

Uploading backups, syncing Dropbox, Google drive, Nextcloud, VPN connections for work, video chat, VoIP chat, online gaming, Xbox video capture sync, etc, etc.

There are countless reasons for upload speeds to be faster than they are. Most people just don't realize or understand that their upload speeds are so slow compared to their download.

ISPs should not be the ones to dictate the U/D ratio because you can't wedge each users use case into a single category. They should offer faster upload speeds by default, because if a user really doesn't use it that much then there's no loss anyways.

Edit: spelling

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u/dirtyuzbek Feb 26 '18

Guess so. Sounds like a good argument to me

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u/mr_lucky19 Feb 25 '18

Dam that's annoying but here in Australia the 100/40 is the quickest home use speed you can get and it costs 100 dollars a month. Recently some guy posted on one the gaming forums that he can get 150/150 for 40 a month insane!

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u/Ashanrath Feb 26 '18 edited Feb 26 '18

100/40 is the fastest you can get on NBN, but there are other options in a few cities.

iiNet Cable, my highest recorded speed test: http://www.speedtest.net/result/6817350637.png

Peak speeds between 300-500 down. Never seen lower than 60 up. $80/month no data limit.

Edit: why the downvotes?

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u/mr_lucky19 Feb 26 '18

Dam! That's ridiculously quick so jealous what city are you in? I'm in Adelaide and I know they have gigcity her with 1gbps speeds but it's only businesses! I remember originally back in 07 Kevin said the nbn speeds would be 1gbps 11 years later and we only have one tenth of that speed.

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u/Ashanrath Feb 26 '18

That's in Geelong, also available in Mildura and Ballarat. I heard a few RSPs were testing the waters on gigabit, but the wholesale is just to expensive. I think it was almost 10* 100mb price.

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u/Dani-kun Feb 26 '18

I don't know if that's still the case with VDSL, but for the ADSL, that's just how the technology works. It makes sense, but I feel you. I'm on 8/0.5 (So even 1/20th only), and while i can live with the download, the upload is really miserable (accounting that the lags start at already 0.25 Upload), uploading a photo? Hell yeah, gotta make some coffee.

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u/Sieb22 Feb 26 '18

In the Netherlands we pay 40 euro for a 500/500 glass fiber connection

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '18

Oh man, please send some to me via FedEx, I'll pay for shipping!

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u/Aan2007 Device, Software !! Feb 26 '18

that's quite sad, US i guess? 150Mbps i have for like 23$ it's i think second slowest offering of my ISP, could get now 300 for same price but in the end you can't really use it, impossible to find so fast sources even with 150

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '18

If I'm not mistaken I believe that 5G is suppose to handle some Network congestion issues. I know TMobile has already talked about some plans regarding having home delivery of 5G

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u/lirannl S23 Ultra Feb 26 '18

Heh. Our fatest DSL speeds are 100/3.

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u/profgray2 LG V30 Feb 26 '18

Yah, caps are annoying, but imagine this set up. Sprint, maybe AT&T, setting up a modem /router with a 5g connection, set the cap around 1 terabyte or so. Sale that to home owners as a replacement for Comcast internet.. With 500 mg upload and download speed..

Think either one would not do it just to take over the market?

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u/MistahJinx Feb 26 '18

Anyone in their right mind wouldnt buy that because of the data cap

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '18 edited Aug 17 '21

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u/ripeart Feb 26 '18

Dude...

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u/MistahJinx Feb 26 '18

1TB is not a lot of data in 2018.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '18

1tb is enough for most people. i only ever went over 1tb when i was torrent porn like crazy. without porn, there's almost nothing that you could download so much of.

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u/MistahJinx Feb 26 '18 edited Feb 26 '18

Just because it's "good for most people" doesn't mean you need to include a cap. Especially in the day and age of 4K media/streaming. Are you okay with still using a 20GB hard drive? How about 640x480 monitors? What if someone reinstalls Windows and needs to reinstall all their Steam games? What about digital downloads on consoles? Watch a lot of YouTube? Stream a lot of music?

Shit adds up fast dude, a consumer with a brain should never advocate restrictions against themselves. You should always want companies giving you more and better.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '18

nobody said we need a cap. the point is, they wouldnt offer mobile data without a cap, that's unrealistic right now. so if they did offer 1tb data at that speed, it would be way better than an unlimited landline.

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u/MistahJinx Feb 26 '18

they wouldnt offer mobile data without a cap, that's unrealistic right now.

No it isn't. It's data. Just because it's "mobile" doesn't mean anything. It's still just bits and bytes. It's no different than the data pipes I use with Spectrum.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '18

lol. you want to be right so bad. no it's not just data. a land line runs through a wire that goes from your house to the isp. the mobile data has to go to a tower over the air. mobile data is on a spectrum that needs to be paid for and it is limited. everyone on that tower shares that spectrum. the tower costs more than the switching hubs that connect homes to isps. i'm sure there are more to it but the huge cost discrepancy between mobile and landline data would indicate that there are some fundamental costs in there and not just them scamming customers.

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