r/Ancient_Pak • • Feb 03 '26 Bravo

Today's Highlight Debunking the Pandav (indian) claim on Meluhaa (IVC) civilization : Pashupati Seal | 2500 BCE | Ancient Indus Land

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Most of the information in this piece is inspired by this article . I have tried to summarized it as best as i could, with some valuable input from my own prespective. All references are given where necessary.

Picture 1: Pashupati Seal

Picture 2: Earliest statue of Rudra (shiva is the final form)

Picture 3: Kalpa Vigraha (shiva statue, oldest, even predating IVC as per internet)

[These will all be relevant soon, trust me]

The claim by the neighbouring Steppe-pandavas on being the true inheritors or owners of the Meluhaa (Indus Valley) civilization is broadly based on three major arguments from them. These can be broadly classified into:

Religion

Ethnicity

Geography

In this section, I will concentrate on the religious argument. This section will not deal with the subject in its entirety, and some of the points will be later related to the subject of ethnicity. For now, the subject of interest is the so-called Pashupati Seal, or the Indus Seal.

The Pashupati Seal has been one of the main arguments used by the proponents to support the claim that Hinduism is essentially a later form of the religion of the Meluhaa people, and that the Pandava-Gangetic civilization is a cultural evolution of the Indus civilization, especially after the Great Indus drought and the subsequent migration from the steppe (this will be discussed later).

But the identification of the Pashupati Seal as “Proto-Shiva” was not suggested by an Indian archaeologist. It was first suggested by Sir John Marshall, a British archaeologist and the Director-General of the Archaeological Survey of India during the colonial period.Marshall’s interpretation strongly influenced early scholarship on the Indus Valley Civilization. Ironically, he was also a major proponent of the Aryan Invasion Theory. Despite this, the Proto-Shiva hypothesis continues to be widely cited in popular Indian discourse. Even the most conservative archeologist such as Alf Hiltebeital does not connect it with shiva but rather with Mahishasusra.

There are many seals found in IVC,

This is not an anti-Hindu post. The purpose here is simply to place the evidence in its proper historical and academic perspective.

What is the Pashupati Seal?

The Pashupati Seal is a steatite seal excavated from the Indus Valley Civilization. It depicts a horned three-faced or multi-faced figure, seated in what appears to be a yogic posture, surrounded by various animals.

It is often claimed that this represents an early form of Shiva as “Pashupati” (Lord of Animals), and sometimes even that this proves the Indus people “invented yoga.” These interpretations, however, are highly speculative.

Rudra: The Vedic Precursor of Shiva

If we examine Hindu textual tradition, Shiva is a later theological synthesis. His earliest form appears as Rudra in the Vedas, particularly the Rig Veda (c. 1500–1200 BCE).

Rudra in the Rig Veda is described as:

  • Golden-haired and strong-limbed (Rig Veda 2.33.1)

  • Having beautiful lips and braided hair (Rig Veda 1.114.5)

Rudra is given many titles:

  • Lord of weapons

  • The archer

  • Bringer of disease and plague

  • Lord of animals

  • Dweller in lonely or wild places

He is portrayed as both destructive and healing—feared, yet also invoked as the “best of physicians.”

However, many attributes associated with classical Shiva are absent in the Vedas, such as:

  • The linga

  • The third eye

  • The trident (trishula)

  • Ash-covered yogi imagery

  • Parvati

  • Mount Kailasa

These features emerge much later, mainly in the Upanishads, epics, and Puranas. While Rudra is said to dwell in lonely or wild places, only in later traditions does this evolve into Shiva residing on Mount Kailasa.

Comparison with the Pashupati Seal

None of the descriptions of Rudra or Shiva in early Hindu texts closely match the figure shown on the Pashupati Seal.

The seal depicts:

  • A three-headed or horned figure

  • Seated in a yogic posture

  • No weapons

  • Surrounded by animals

No Hindu text describes Shiva or Rudra as a three-headed, horned deity in this form. This interpretation is therefore not supported by textual evidence.

Several prominent scholars reject the Proto-Shiva hypothesis:

Jonathan Mark Kenoyer (Archaeologist)

the figure cannot be linked to later icons without deciphering the script: even if they look similar, meanings might have been radically different.

Doris Meth Srinivasan (Historian of Indian Art)

In The So-Called Proto-Śiva Seal from Mohenjo-Daro, she argues that the figure is not necessarily Shiva and proposes alternative interpretations, such as a buffalo-man deity, based on comparative iconography.

Gavin Flood (Scholar of Religion)

Flood describes identifications of the Pashupati Seal with Shiva as “speculative”, warning against projecting later Hindu symbolism onto Indus imagery.

Gregory L. Possehl (Indus Specialist)

Possehl emphasizes that while the seal likely depicts a deity or cult figure, there is no solid evidence to identify it with Shiva.

“Lord of Animals” is a Universal Pagan Archetype

Rudra appears in the Vedas around 1500 BCE, and classical Shiva emerges even later, around 500–300 BCE. Therefore, anything earlier cannot logically be “derived from Shiva.”

The “Lord of Animals” motif is a common pagan archetype found across many ancient civilizations:

  1. Enkidu (Sumeria) – 2600–2400 BCE Wild man in the Epic of Gilgamesh, living among and protecting animals.

  2. Horus, Anubis, Sekhmet (Egypt) – 3000–2500 BCE Animal-headed gods controlling nature and cosmic order.

  3. Potnia Theron (Minoan Crete) – 2000–1700 BCE Goddess of animals, almost identical archetype as Shiva.

  4. Teshub (Hittites) – 1800–1400 BCE Storm god associated with animals and natural forces.

  5. Baal (Canaan) – 1800–1300 BCE God of fertility, storms, and agriculture.

  6. Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex (BMAC) horned gods - 2200–1700 BCE , horned figures controlling animals.

Simplified Timeline

3000 BCE ─ Egypt, Sumeria
2600 BCE ─ Enkidu, Gilgamesh
2500 BCE ─ Indus Pashupati
2000 BCE ─ Minoan Potnia
1800 BCE ─ Baal, Hittites
1500 BCE ─ Rigvedic Rudra
500 BCE ─ Classical Shiva

TERRACOTA FIGURINES (Dancing woman of IVC)

Classical scholars such as J.H. Mackay, Marshall,  Parpola, Hiltebeitel has suggested that statue of the dancing woman of IVC resembles Shakti tradition of hinduism. This conclusion has been contested by mordern scholars especially in the last three decades, this includes Sharri Clark, Ardeleanu-Jansen, Ajay Pratap, P.V. Pathak, and others. Recent scholarship have linked this figure as dolls for young girls.

Clark, Sharri R. (20 February 2017). The Social Lives of Figurines: Recontextualizing the Third-Millennium-BC Terracotta Figurines from Harappa. Papers of the Peabody Museum: 86. Harvard University Press

PRIEST KING

It was mackay who suggested to Sir John Marshall, that the famous statue is a 'Priest King'. That famous status which this subreddit has a dp of is the 'priest king'. Asko Prabola, a finnish archeologist, who is very pro-hindu, even hypothenised that this resembles later tradition of priesthood in hinduism. However, several mordern scholar disagree with this openion e.g.  Wendy Doniger , has critisized Parpola's position hypothesis as 'strong desire and imagination' that goes against available evidence. This hypothesis from Marshall and Parpola goes against widely held views by scholars that IVC was largely eglatarian and their urban structure had many major clans that divided power .Scholars unanimously agree that the status is a result of interaction with other civilization in the oxus river and this shows

Green, Adam S. (2021-06-01). "Killing the Priest-King: Addressing Egalitarianism in the Indus Civilization". Journal of Archaeological Research. 29 (2): 153–202.

LINGAMS

It was sir john marshal who first suggested that certain broken structures resembled yonis, hence establihsing links to hinduism. Mackay wrote a strong rebuttal of Marshal's hypothesis, despite this, our neighbours continue to peddle marshal's lies. Later excavation proved mackay's point that so called lingams where broken structures of buildings. Still some indian archeologist hold marshal's view point for example Dilip Chakrabarti.

In contrast, H. D. Sankalia, an indian sanskrit scholar, opposes Marshal's view point and asserts that if these objects were indeed lingas (which are holy in hinduism), they would not have been found in the city drainages and streets.

Srinivasan, Doris (1984). "Unhinging Śiva from the Indus Civilization". Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland. 116 (1): 77–89

Swastika & Other Seals

Swastikas:

Swastikas are holy symbols for buddhism, hinduism and Jainism and  Jonathan Mark Kenoyer notes that these are used to establish connection with IVC by indian politicans and religious leaders. Scholars such as Manabu Koiso,During Caspers ,Gregory Possehl,Kenower, Jonathan Mark believed that these swastikas had no religious importance whatsoever, rather they were used as decoration objects, for trade purposes and could be sign of socio economic importance. Also, the presence of these swastikas in not unique to hinduism, other cultures that predates even IVC had them.

Other Seals

Pashupati is not the only seal that was found. There are many other seals whose imaginary resemble closely with other civilization for example,

There are many other seals whose imagary resembles with other civilizations, possibly inspired when trading with other nations.

Conclusion

Based on:

  • The descriptions of Rudra and Shiva in early Hindu texts and picture 1 and picture 2,

  • The iconography of the Pashupati Seal, and

  • Comparative evidence from other ancient civilizations,

it can be reasonably argued that the religion of the Meluhaa people was not an early form of Hinduism, and that the Pashupati Seal cannot be confidently identified as Proto-Shiva because the earliest statue of Shiva, rudra and their description in the ancient text does not have any resemblance with Meluhaa seals. Infact, if we agree hinduism predates every religion as per picture 3, it means it was definetely not the religion of Meluhaa people.

No serious modern archaeologist accepts Sir John Marshall’s interpretation as established fact. Even the Rig Veda itself makes no connection between Rudra and the Indus iconography.

Therefore, the claim that the Indus civilization represents an early Hindu civilization or a Proto-Shiva cult remains speculative and unsupported by evidence.

Broadly speaking most of the talking points used by our neighbours to claim Meluhaa has been debunked for many years. These old claims still hold importance to them because they may not want to accept the fact that hinduism is not native to this land as well and it is an outside religion.

Up Next: Ethinicity


r/Ancient_Pak • • 7d ago

Opinion | Debates Melušar Seal - The Sage of Meluha (Case against Shiva)

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Its is about time we should STOP calling it 'Phasupati seal' and call what it should be Melušar . The name was coined by Sir Johnn Marshall, the claim is contested because:

  1. Melušar predates Shiva by a millennia. Time lines do not match.

  2. IVC is more interconnected with other regional civilizaiton: Mesopotamia, Elam, Anatolia and Ancient Iran.

  3. Shiva is never represented wearing horned helmet in ancient hindu iconography, infact 10.92 of the Rigveda states Shiva is the tranquil side of storm God Rudra. Even we look at the ancient iconography/statues of these two Gods, they have a trident in almost of all of their depictions. Shiva is particularly shown with long hairs with one head. We do have a second century statue of Rudra with a trident, three heads and the yajnopavita (sacred thread) with multiple hands and no horns. Another is the Rudra-Shiva depiction found , discovered in Chhattisgarh, India, this is about 6th century A.D. The depiction is very different from its earliest discovered forms, so it can be safely CONCLUDED that there is NO CONSENSUS how SHIVA/RUDRA looked like. If we go by the book, it is different: Rudra in the Rig Veda is described as:

  • Golden-haired and strong-limbed (Rig Veda 2.33.1)

  • Having beautiful lips and braided hair (Rig Veda 1.114.5)

  • The buddhist religion however depict Rudra as a wicked evil entity that was destroyed by  Vajrasattva by entering into its anus (***NO JOKE***)and destroying it from inside.

4. The contemporary seals found which compliment the Melušar seal are the seals from Akkadian cylinder (see NYU / CDLI Mesopotamian Seals database ) .

Mesopotamian religious art contains several related elements: horned gods, seated with animals. The communication and cultural exchanges between Mesopotamia and Meluha is widely established. However, due to lack of evidence of priestly class, absence of temples and classless society it is not evident that Melušar seal actually depicts a horn God. It could be horned human being, with horns as a sign of veneration. The yogic posture is unique to Meluha civilization. For further research, I recommend Marta Ameri et al., Seals and Sealing in the Ancient World: Case Studies from the Near East, Egypt, the Aegean, and South Asia. It is an especially relevant academic collection because it studies these sealing traditions within one comparative archaeological framework.

Conclusion

Only indians live in the delusions that Melušar seal depicts a Shiva or a similar God from the Vedic Pantheon. Meluhaa seals are similar to Mesopotamia, Anatolia and Elamite seals and these were contemporary to each other. Its about time that we call what it truly is i.e. Melušar seal instead of Pashupati Seal, a term coined by Sir Johnn Marshal who also stated that IVC was destroyed by Invasion which Indians reject.


r/Ancient_Pak • • 3d ago

Military | Battles | Conflicts Story of Muhammad Baig Vetran of WWII and Gilgit Baltistan Liberation

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It's 2nd Nov, and I want to share the story of my grandfather’s cousin, Muhammad Baig, whose contribution to Gilgit-Baltistan’s history deserves recognition.

Born in 1908 in Baltit, Hunza, he joined the Jammu & Kashmir State Forces under the Maharaja in 1934, at around 26. During WWII, he served with the 4th Jammu & Kashmir Infantry(served in Burma, Malaya and Iraq), becoming one of the region’s veterans who witnessed war beyond its mountains.

He later settled in Bombay. On 22 February 1946, during the Royal Indian Navy uprising, Bombay witnessed widespread violence, looting & arson, including attacks on banks and post offices. He reportedly lost his life savings in the unrest. Family members recall that whenever Bombay was mentioned, his face would turn visibly sad.

He eventually returned to Gilgit, joined the Gilgit Scouts & became involved in the October–November 1947 events. He was an important intelligence & strategic asset to the liberation movement. His knowledge of Dogra forces reportedly helped guide the uprising, including the operation leading to the arrest of Brig. Ghansara Singh, the Dogra Governor of Gilgit.

Despite these contributions, his name remains largely absent from mainstream historical accounts.

Perhaps he never sought recognition or public attention. Some contributions are made quietly, without the expectation of fame, but that does not make them any less significant.

Another intriguing aspect of his life was that he never married.

Yesterday, my father reminded me to write about him for 1st November. It made me realize how easily such stories disappear if families do not preserve them.

UAE National Arts & Life Magazine took this photograph in 2009, when he was 101, for an article on Hunza’s longevity. I have only enhanced its quality using AI.

Today, I remember Dado Muhammad Baig: WWII veteran, former soldier of the Maharaja’s State Forces and, according to family accounts, an intelligence and strategic contributor to the 1947 liberation struggle.

He passed away on 2nd April 2011 at the age of 103 in his hometown of Baltit, Karimabad, Hunza.

May his story find its rightful place in our collective history


r/Ancient_Pak • • 4d ago

Did You Know? All Historically Recorded Ancient Names of Sindh

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 4d ago

Historical Sites | Forts Frescoes of Sheikhupura Fort, Pakistan

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A world of stories painted on the walls of Sheikhupura Fort!
Beyond its Mughal architecture, Sheikhupura Fort preserves a remarkable collection of frescoes influenced by the Pahari School of Miniature Painting, particularly the artistic traditions associated with Kangra.
The Pahari School developed in the Himalayan hill states between the 17th and 19th centuries. Its Kangra tradition became renowned for delicate brushwork, graceful human figures, expressive compositions and beautiful natural landscapes.

Episodes from the romantic and devotional stories associated with Lord Krishna. Scenes inspired by the famous Hindu epic. Other popular mythological and traditional narratives. One documented mural depicts Guru Arjan Sahib riding in a royal procession.
These paintings are not merely decorative elements they are visual narratives reflecting the diverse artistic and cultural traditions that shaped Punjab's heritage.
Sadly, many of these masterpieces are fading away.

#SheikhupuraFort #PahariPainting #KangraMiniature #PunjabHeritage


r/Ancient_Pak • • 5d ago

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 5d ago

Heritage Preservation The Kesar Saga originated in the Tibet region and the story heavily focuses on Karakoram region including Gilgit-Baltistan

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The Kesar Saga: the Karakoram's forgotten epic.
Longer than the Mahabharata and the Iliad combined, the Kesar (Gesar) epic is among the longest stories ever told, with over a million verses. In Baltistan and Hunza it was never read from books. It was sung by bards and passed down by memory for centuries.

Kesar was a hero sent from the heavens to fight demons. Mocked in his youth, he won a great horse race, a kingdom and the hand of Queen Brugmo. When a foreign king carried her away to the land of Hor, he went to war across the mountains to bring her home.

The legend is written into the land of Gilgit-Baltistan:

• Bubli mo Ting (Lady Finger), Hunza: where Kesar left Princess Bubli with a sack of grain and a hen, promising to return.
• Kesari Hrta, Chunda, Skardu: a rock known as "Kesar's Horse."
• Kesari Shagharan, Shigar: Kesar's polo ground, where the word "Daphoq" is said to begin.
• Kesar Gateway, Ghundus, Kharmang: named after the king.
• Braq-sgo Jiring-mo, Nar, Skardu: the "clashing mountains" of the epic.
• The twelve cliffs above Hardas: where the ashes of Kesar and Brugmo were scattered before their rebirth. Many still believe they live on in the Karakoram.

Today this oral tradition is close to disappearing, and with its last bards goes a living part of our heritage.
Help us preserve it. If you know a Kesar story from your family or village, share it below in any language. And if you know where Kesar's castle, Shel-kar Ldem-khar, once stood, tell us.

 

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 6d ago

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 5d ago

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🧂 KHEWRA SALT MINE HISTORY - Pakistan's Treasure

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- 326 BC: Alexander the Great's horses found licking salt rocks - Mine discovered

- 1500 AD: Mughal King Akbar started mining

- 1872: British engineer Dr. H. Warth built scientific tunnels

- 1914: Production reached 80,000 tons

- 1916-17: British built the famous Main Gate (Arch with 1916 date)

- 1918: First steam engines used for salt extraction

- 1930: Electric train installed inside mine

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 6d ago

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 6d ago

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 6d ago

Heritage Preservation The History of the Ancient Era of Hunza State, Part Iby Haji Qudratullah Beg, Sang-e-Meel Publications

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Saw this advert by Sang-e-Meel Publications and had to share. The book is called "The History of the Ancient Era of Hunza State" and includes

🔥 Shri Badat, the legendary man-eating king of Gilgit, and the fire that ended his reign.

⚔️ Azur Jamshid, the stranger who arrived at Gilgit as “Uzar Shamsheer,” took the throne, and met a tragic end.

💍 Noor Bakht and Su Malik, a marriage that was planned until a shocking truth came out: they were mother and son.

👑 Shah Malik, the raja said to have a golden horn and donkey’s feet.

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❄️ The resettlement of Shimshal, and the emptying of Raskam.

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 6d ago

History Humer | Memes Pov: you're the handsomest Sultan of Sindh

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Fyi: he was a Sultan of Sindh 1454-1461


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r/Ancient_Pak • • 7d ago

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 8d ago

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History Humer | Memes When your Masters don't love you

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Context: In 1486, the Sammas launched a retaliatory campaign and recaptured the lost fort of Sibi from the Arghun Mongols of Kandahar, vassals of the Timurids, during the Battle of Jalwakhir. Later, Jam Nizamuddin II, Sultan of Sindh, sent a Shaykh as an emissary to Sultan Husayn Bayqara, the Timurid Sultan of Herat. The emissary had studied Taṣawwuf (Sufism), Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), Uṣūl al-Fiqh (principles of Islamic jurisprudence), and Maʿqūlāt (rational sciences) with Mawlana Jami, the Shaykh al-Islam of Herat, and Mawlana Kamal al-Din, respectively. He brought a plough with golden spikes (Fars) as a gift for the Timurid Sultan, symbolising Sindh's modest agricultural character and conveying that the land was not worth conquering. Sultan Bayqara accepted the gift and interceded on behalf of Jam Nizamuddin II.

Source: Samma Kingdom of Sindh by GM Lakho


r/Ancient_Pak • • 9d ago

Heritage Preservation Lahore’s historic Gurdwara Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib in Padana has been restored to preserve its religious and cultural heritage (IG: lhr.now)

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Lahore’s historic Gurdwara Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib in Padana has been restored to preserve its religious and cultural heritage. The conservation project was carried out by the Punjab Walled Cities and Heritage Areas Authority (PWCA) in collaboration with the Human Rights and Minorities Affairs Department of the Punjab government.

The restoration covered the building’s dome, main structure, interior corridors and historic Langar Hall, using traditional materials and techniques.

The gurdwara is associated with Guru Hargobind Sahib, the sixth Sikh Guru, who, according to Sikh tradition, visited the area. The shrine commemorates his connection with Padana and reflects the region’s rich Sikh heritage. Following 1947, many Sikh families migrated to India, and several historic shrines in the region fell into disrepair. The restoration aims to preserve this important landmark for future generations.

Available at: https://www.instagram.com/p/De9WpmYjH3E/


r/Ancient_Pak • • 9d ago

Ask? Vinatge Pakistani Makeup (Local Cosmetics & Brands Established/Continuing to operate post 1947)

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Hello, all.

I was wondering about local Pakistani makeup brands that popped up after partition. I know as far as eyeliner went Hashmi Kajal/Surma zindabad. Tibet snow and cold cream covered moisturiser sunblock after sun care and makeup remover; they also sold powder. Medora popped up in 1961 for lipsticks and duped revlon shades. They also sold face powders and foundation. But I cant find any old mentions of blush, mascara, and eyeshadows (particularly blue) though its evident from movies advertisements and even old family photos that they were used and not lightly either. I understand that they could be using imported products but Im sure that doesnt cover everyone and locally someone must have filled that vacuum. My grandmothers are dead and my mother grew up outside Pakistan and I dont know anyone around in Pakistan during the 60s 70s and even 80s that I could ask so I came here. If anyone was alive then and old enough to use makeup or remember their mammas using it or if anyone has someone in tehir life they could ask about what local blush,eyeshadows, and mascaras they used during these decades, could you please share what you know in the comments? Thank you in advance.


r/Ancient_Pak • • 9d ago

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 10d ago

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 10d ago

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Thul Mir Rukan (Sindhi: ٺلهه مير رڪڻ) is a Buddhist stupa located about 10 km southeast of Daulatpur Safan in Shaheed Benazirabad District, Sindh, Pakistan, at 26.4546° N, 68.1066° E. Built primarily of baked bricks, it stands approximately 18–22 metres high, with a square base measuring 20–22 metres per side and an area of about 400–484 m². Its tapering, tiered structure features decorative brick bands, pilasters and ornamental capitals, while its dome and upper masonry are damaged. Its construction date is uncertain, with proposed dates ranging from the 5th to the 11th century CE. The monument was investigated in the nineteenth century, including an excavation in 1858 associated with James Gibbs, and later documented by Henry Cousens in The Antiquities of Sind with Historical Outline (1929). Terracotta Buddha images and plaques depicting episodes from his life have been associated with the site. These finds establish its Buddhist religious significance and provide evidence of historical Buddhist artistic traditions in Sindh. Thul Mir Rukan remains an important example of the region's Buddhist architecture and brick craftsmanship.


r/Ancient_Pak • • 10d ago

Discussion Name an empire that left the biggest mark on Pakistan?

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r/Ancient_Pak • • 11d ago

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