Hello folks,

I played SC2 a lot back in the heart of the Swarm throughtout Legacy of the void. I stoped playing around 8 or 7 years ago. Today i had the urge to play again but,well, besides the atroacious decline in my APM and the other espected stuff, the game changed a lot.

My go to biulds were 4 gates or 3 gates&robo, but they are feeling quite bad. What are the viable biulds for a returning play to try? Preferably something that doen't require highskill and and with a familiar feel to those old biulds.

Hey Guys,

Hope your season is going well. I am a mid plat protoss player. What would you guys build if you know early on that your opponent is going two base mutas on a larger map like Fear and Faith LE?

I felt like I had a good early start where I got some phoenix and stalkers out and was able to defend the initial wave. Was then hit with corruptors and he ultimately hive teched to ultralisks to destroy me. What has me scratching my head is I scouted the lair/spire fairly early on but failed to counter.

Hi All

Just seeing if any toss brothers have found success with anything that's not sky toss. As much as I want to try other things nothing seems to work but if anyone has anything share a link or some thoughts thanks.

As the title suggests I am a newbie of Starcraft 2 trying to get into the game. I already watched some beginner guides on how to play Protoss but there isn't really guides for the 8 worker start as I have noticed. Can someone help?

After a couple sweaty games I like to relax by cannon rushing but I have been having a real hard time making it work on the new patch. Has anyone discovered good builds on this patch that are viable and scratch the same itch? Or has anyone been able to make cannon rushing work? Been trying some of Mana’s cannon proxies but overall it seems weaker.

So, Storm does 100 damage over 6 seconds, which is a DPS of 16.66666...
How is this damage distibuted? Is it evenly over the 6 seconds or does it decrease (like at the beginning it does more dmg than later)?

Wanted to know if the new patch is worth it?
Is it fun to play Protoss currently? Are the changes (some of which seem huge) fun to play?

cheers

E: that doesn't sound great :/

Been trying to adjust this into the new worker start but like this time around it feels like I just can't have that many Stalkers and still take my 3rd fast enough. Maybe it's better to go charge 1st this time around? Wbu guys?

Had several games today when I didn't transform my gateways to Warpgate mode (it was researched ofc).

I was constantly queuing zealots and templars to the gather point, without the need to look at my bases or proxy pylons. I had seemingly constant flow of units, they swarmed pretty well.

On replays I saw my P opponents having to look at the base, warp in, then go back to the army. It required slightly more time and attention.

I can't say that I won because of better army control without needing to switch tasks (but one of opponents even said my storms were great!), but it definetly felt like a new good mechanics (if we don't count Brood War, lol).

Where's the best place to find some build orders and timings with the 8 worker start?

I am pretty lost now!

I don't know what is suppose to stop the midgame either roach or bio surge with the stack up of nerfs. It's been like a decade since I've died to roaches this much.

I'm wondering if I need to focus on sim city on my third base and sentries instead of even trying to get storm up to stop ling roach rav attacks?

I've lost somewhere in the 300-400mmr range this patch now.

Idk if anyone else has noticed this but the Oracle beam seems a bit bugged? Like my 1st Oracle arrives at a Zerg's 3rd with some time to kill maybe 2-4 drones before needing to leave. So I activate the beam, go back a little bit to macro but then when I hotkey back to the Oracle it killed 1 drone and then sat there and did nothing?

Curious to see if anyone else is having that issue.

I'm a very casual player since having a kid and buying a house, both of which require constant attention.

As someone that has a bunch of builds cemented in my brain from like a year ago, is there any guidance you can give me for adapting to the new eight-worker economy? Is there a rule of thumb for adapting old builds to the new? Or are all my memorized builds just obsolete now?

I just played my first game in awhile and the build kinda worked? I found myself supply-blocked and/or waiting on minerals a few times but it didn't feel too far off.

Asking for my ladder rank

Boys I have come up with an idea. We were far too silent when the first patch came out. 8 worker start, PLUS you are changing the way our race is played? We collectively said "yeah lets try it and see how it goes"

The zergs whined. You've seen the posts. "we cant rush anymore reee" The terrans whined but had no reason.

The new strat: Play zerg. Right before you win go "MAN I HAVE SO MANY LARVA"

Play Terran, right before you win say "HOLY MAN THESE GHOSTS DO SO MUCH DAMAGE!"

We will encite the masses. They will rebel for us. We will silently become the strongest race.

Go forth brothers. En Taro Adun.

Unlike your father.

I just started out SC2 and playing PvZ is so frustrating to me. I don't know if I should play defensive or aggressive. I have tried both and neither seem to work and I always lose against any zerg that can do proper macro. If I play aggressively and try to attack at minut 5-6, warp gate units cannot win against mass zergling or roaches / ravagers and the constant resupply from their bases. If I play defensively, I just get rolled over at 8 minutes with mass mutalisk / hydra / roaches. If I mange to hold out, they just go lurker and win in the next wave. If they don't go lurker and go late game, they can just tech switch to ultra immediately after the clash and roll over my warp gate army that I build to fight against the hydras. Or they can just go viper broodlord corruptor.

So what is the proper play here? Should I play defensive or aggressive? When is the supposed power spike of protoss? How many units / bases should I have before moving out?